GroovySensei said: hes a child thrown into adult situations and having to kill in order to survive. Survives in not so much realistic ways but whatever... My point is that "old school seinen" is not having a comeback just the anime industry is looking for some strong old bands and already have relaunched/revived stuff like Dororo,Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, Fruits Basket, Cardcaptor Sakura, Saint Seiya, Karakuri Circus ect. The same happens with games - Resident Evil 2, FF IIV...the recent announce of Resident Evil 3 remake ect. |
Gwenze said: There are no opinions in this subject, if it's published in a seinen magazine, it's a seinen. Unless you consider every R-rated anime a "seinen" since they are for ages of 17+, and even then those aren't targeted specifically to a male audienceNostalgik said: (Kenpuu Denki) Berserk, Vinland Saga, Monster, Rainbow, Houseki no Kuni. Also, I suggest you start using the rating scale's numbers below 7 While mature, Fate isn't a seinen. But if it's not to recommend only seinen, I'd have to put Kaiba in my recommendations Mod edit: Merged double post. Please use the edit button. I think Fate must be Seinen, especially because the plot. It is similar to Vinland Saga and not nonsense edge show like much other anime. |
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| People growing soft as in they don't like their favorite characters dying, it's one reason why hyperviolent anime no longer sell in Japan. As for sexual anime, I think you are missing the new trend of seasonal hentai. |
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| I prefer my "extreme violence and sexual content". But I never thought it was easy to find them. I mean I only saw the "17+ violence and profanity" tag in 2016 and figured that even if those are there it still doesn't mean I will necessarily get a series with mature content. All it takes to find seinen series (with the content you specifically want) is to watch a lot of anime throughout the year. |
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Takuto_Shindou said: The manga they were based on was published in shounen magazines. That's the reason they're labeled shounen. If they were published in a seinen magazine they would have been seinen and if they hadn't been based on any manga at all they likely wouldn't have had any demographic labels attached to them.Seinen is a meaningless term these days, when shows like Shingeki no Kyojin and The Promised Neverland are rated Shounen for God knows what reason Demographic labels are bullshit |
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Takuto_Shindou said: Seinen is a meaningless term these days, when shows like Shingeki no Kyojin and The Promised Neverland are rated Shounen for God knows what reason Demographic labels are bullshit Despite some higher graphic content than expected AOT did really appeal to the YA audience same thing with Neverland. Audiences like that enjoy the idea of dealing with oppressive settings and overcoming them. CGDCT anime/manga are popular with seinen audiences as they often are good stress relievers. I never really appreciated them until I got graduated HS.So that isn't surprising though yeah seinen isn't dominated by CGDCT there is still a lot of what it was known for out there. Though in general content and everyone's subjective view of maturity doesn't really matter. TItles get published in areas editors think will likely gain traction or an audience. |
BilboBaggins365Mar 27, 2020 1:40 AM
mhkr said: Because Japan realized that adult content is not mature... Truth, it all comes down to the themes the anime is using. |
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| Extreme violence and sexual content sounds like something teenage boys(aka the shonen demographic) would prefer to make themselves feel mature. Of course seinen shows can have those as well, but it's not violence and sex that make a seinen a seinen. Never has been. |
AntifaCuckeesian said: TolkienFan365 said: Despite some higher graphic content than expected AOT did really appeal to the YA audience same thing with Neverland. Audiences like that enjoy the idea of dealing with oppressive settings and overcoming them. CGDCT anime/manga are popular with seinen audiences as they often are good stress relievers. I never really appreciated them until I got graduated HS. Shonen demographic audiences and seinen demographic audiences both need stress relievers. In fact I can't think of a single demographic that doesn't need stress relief in their anime/manga. That's kind of what the medium is for as a whole. One doesn't graduate from high schoool and suddenly need stress relief so they get into some Blend S or Slow Start Also, it goes without saying that a lot of this CGDCT manga/anime has a fair amount of overlap between the shonen and seinen categories. Shonen: Aiura, Ao-Chan cant study!, Gabriel DropOut, Kiss X Sis, Mitsuboshi Colors, My Sister, My writer, Eromanga Sensei, Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star Seinen: OniAi, Our Maid is So Annoying!, Acchi Kocchi, Blend S, Himouto-Umaru-chan, Ichigo Mashimaro, Laid Back Camp, Is the Order a rabbit? Kiniro Mosaic, New Game!, Non Non Biyori The one contrast is that in shonen manga in general, there tends to be a lot more action and hero fantasy. In CGDCT seinen you get a lot more slice of life, comedy, and school based stories. Even though this demographic is thought to be leaving a high school setting, a lot of these moe shows feature high school aged girls... The difference is moreso that you have SOME CGDCT moe loli stuff in shonen, but even MORE of it in seinen What I'm confused about is why it's being marketed to either demographic. Young boys/young men. For either of those groups to be the target audience for moe lolis doing cute things is a bit suspect. But then again I'm not sure what demographic any of this little sister moe/harem loli should be marketed to if any. It's pretty odd that it exists at all. Uchi no Maid ga Uzasugiru! for example is seinen that's specifically about a grown ass woman who wants to molest/is lusting after "young prepubescent girls" and constantly talks about how she preys girls who havent had their period yet. The appeal is different because especially in Japan our life gets more hectic you start looking for shows that have a more quiet and laid back appeal. I guess I probably should say less CGDCT and more Iyashikei which do tend to be aimed in larger quantities at older markets. This is all a generalization though but I would argue the kinds of CGDCT that focus on a more down tempoed nature are way more common in seinen magazines and in general are more common. Yuru Camp and Girls Last Tour do appeal to that need of a very laidback story. Plus some of those you listed I wouldn't argue actually are CGDCT like Kiss x Sis or Eromanga which are just ecchi. If you count those as CGDCT you could argue anything with a female dominated cast that is SOL is CGDCT and I wouldn't agree. You are getting way off topic by talking about again another anime that isn't CGDCT. As for why it's marketed to them sense of innocence often adds to that feeling of relaxation. What market should it be advertised to then if you don't feel that is correct? |
BilboBaggins365Mar 27, 2020 1:31 PM
| "Why did the Seinen demographic change so much?" I finally figured it out! It's actually a natural thing, it's is becoming roujin demographic. |
| seinen/shounen/shoujo/josei almost doesn't mean shit nowadays. It just means that they were in a magazine categorized as such and if it happens that a manga feels more shounen ends up in a Josei magazine for example, well it's a Josei. That's it. |
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| Kingdom is the most popular seinen manga in Japan at the moment I think and it deals with war and politics in a historic setting. So it's definitely not all cute girls. The main character has shounenlike tendencies but at it's core it's a series about political maneuvers and generals with personalities bigger than the armies they lead. In comparison Kingdom's anime adaptation didn't make any waves I think, so despite high sales it seems Kingdom reaches a different audience that isn't so interested in anime. |
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