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Mar 4, 2019 12:48 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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What came first man or God?

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Mar 5, 2019 11:21 AM
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Akoram said:

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What came first man or God?


Man, obviously :)

This chapter was FORKING AWESOME! I was just thinking that this piece of Ohba & Obata is around mediocre while being still readable, but the theme from this chapter just affected me so much!

Although I am an atheist myself, I have never considered the theory that an invisible energy coming from all humans created something on its own, and that this concept is god-like. Really loved this idea.

Looking forward to April 3!
Mar 7, 2019 6:35 AM
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The concept of God here reminds me of the Monogatari series.
Mar 7, 2019 11:58 PM
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I loved it too! A great chapter, this manga is getting more and more exciting. I'm already looking forward to April 3rd
Dec 31, 2019 8:34 AM
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I'm glad there's finally a character I can somewhat relate to again. Yoneda out here spitting some science on these basic ass children!

But it was still another chapter of everyone standing in one place talking :[
Aug 7, 2020 1:47 PM
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This chapter is really great! I could relate with Yoneda, although I might not understand some points but his arguments are mostly valid. I agree with him, and it's actually applicable IRL too. We're not in the age of praying to god.

I wanted to thank Tsugumi Ohba and Takeshi Obata for creating this manga. I really enjoy philosophy and obviously enjoy reading this series.


Oct 2, 2020 8:24 AM
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Truly awful writing.

A scientist theorizes on the power of imagination to prove that it can manifest into a deity?

WHAT?

This is some low-tier Atheist fart-sniff bullshit.

"WELL IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A DEITY TO EXIST, ERGO WE MUST HAVE CREATED IT WITH OUR COLLECTIVE THOUGHTS"

lol

Gigantic fall from Death Note and Bakuman.
Nov 2, 2021 4:57 PM
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so ohba choose the theme of "what is kami?", theme that japanese people so love from some reason . and made a whole of chapter out of it.
i will admit that as god believer, this chapter didn't made me one bit of doubt on the existence on god in our world (and please, no one to start convincing me on this, pointless conversation), yoneda still made good point.
until ... he said something that really made no sense at all - people created something in their mind, and so their imagination made kami, and kami started losing it's powers because people less believing in him. i mean - WTH?!?!?! that's the guy who doesn't support in spirit and ghosts? seriously?
(from comments here i get that non-kami believers doesn't care much about this stupid flaw)
other than that this chapter was really good.
yoneda is definitely much better antagonist than koneda, that's for sure.

oh and i'm glad i was right about mirai reason saying nothing, though he explained complicated thing in really short words lol
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