riku said: Pokeit said: If osieorb18 can't prove the use of her ability, we can just lynch her after we lynch Shinichi-kun. Although if I die, flip town and osie lives osie is scum :) Because my passive specifies cop checks. Not a universal miller, which osie was trynna say I had earlier. Desperado is a Cop check with a vig attached, I think is the mod's reasoning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also am not convinced that you are actually a miller and not just scum. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: riku said: Although if I die, flip town and osie lives osie is scum :) Because my passive specifies cop checks. Not a universal miller, which osie was trynna say I had earlier. Desperado is a Cop check with a vig attached, I think is the mod's reasoning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also am not convinced that you are actually a miller and not just scum. And I think you're posturing. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Is that the right term? *shrugs* |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Yeah guys, I just checked the wording. There's no way that a desperado shot will kill me. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: Pokeit said: If osieorb18 can't prove the use of her ability, we can just lynch her after we lynch Shinichi-kun. Although if I die, flip town and osie lives osie is scum :) Because my passive specifies cop checks. Not a universal miller, which osie was trynna say I had earlier. what's the differ3nce between the 2 even I don't know lol |
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riku said: Yeah guys, I just checked the wording. There's no way that a desperado shot will kill me. Desperado is often referred to as or conflated with Sheriff. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Desperado Sheriff is clearly a cop role first. I also trust the mod. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
Shinichi-Kun said: riku said: Although if I die, flip town and osie lives osie is scum :) Because my passive specifies cop checks. Not a universal miller, which osie was trynna say I had earlier. what's the differ3nce between the 2 even I don't know lol Dunno if i should answer this or not. my heart says yes but my brain says nonono |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
osieorb18 said: riku said: Yeah guys, I just checked the wording. There's no way that a desperado shot will kill me. Desperado is often referred to as or conflated with Sheriff. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Desperado Sheriff is clearly a cop role first. I also trust the mod. nothing in that description suggests a miller would die to a desperado. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: osieorb18 said: Desperado is often referred to as or conflated with Sheriff. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Desperado Sheriff is clearly a cop role first. I also trust the mod. nothing in that description suggests a miller would die to a desperado. If it's taken as a cop role, then it's certainly possible. I honestly don't know, but the mod had said that it checks alignment as a cop check and shoots. Some sort of flavor of "If I thought I was wrong, I'd shoot myself instead" or the like. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: If it's taken as a cop role, then it's certainly possible. I honestly don't know, but the mod had said that it checks alignment as a cop check and shoots. Some sort of flavor of "If I thought I was wrong, I'd shoot myself instead" or the like. yeah, this is a flat out lie. Hi, scum. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: osieorb18 said: If it's taken as a cop role, then it's certainly possible. I honestly don't know, but the mod had said that it checks alignment as a cop check and shoots. Some sort of flavor of "If I thought I was wrong, I'd shoot myself instead" or the like. yeah, this is a flat out lie. Hi, scum. I won't miss you when you're gone, OMGUS-peddler. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: I won't miss you when you're gone, OMGUS-peddler. Yeah, except you've been modgaming since you arrived. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: osieorb18 said: I won't miss you when you're gone, OMGUS-peddler. Yeah, except you've been modgaming since you arrived. Pfft. You keep on using that term. I don't think it means what you think it means. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| honestly osie, nice try but this endeavour of yours to try and say i died due to miller is endearing <3. Even the link you gave says 'if they are scum , they'll die. It doesnt say if they appear aligned scum. the only reason youd try such an excuse is if you dont want to be suspected when i die as town and you live. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
osieorb18 said: Pfft. You keep on using that term. I don't think it means what you think it means. ive used it once, fight me |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: honestly osie, nice try but this endeavour of yours to try and say i died due to miller is endearing <3. Even the link you gave says 'if they are scum , they'll die. It doesnt say if they appear aligned scum. the only reason youd try such an excuse is if you dont want to be suspected when i die as town and you live. I mean, desperado is a paraphrase... But nice trying to discredit a detractor rather than actually scumhunting when your time is short. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: riku said: honestly osie, nice try but this endeavour of yours to try and say i died due to miller is endearing <3. Even the link you gave says 'if they are scum , they'll die. It doesnt say if they appear aligned scum. the only reason youd try such an excuse is if you dont want to be suspected when i die as town and you live. I mean, desperado is a paraphrase... But nice trying to discredit a detractor rather than actually scumhunting when your time is short. now you are just flailing.... |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: osieorb18 said: Pfft. You keep on using that term. I don't think it means what you think it means. ive used it once, fight me Actually, this is fair. Denja used it a bunch in this weird way. Sorry about that. My bad. Still, you're going to be a copped shot and it really makes sense that it exists if you are in fact a miller and not just scum. TBF, you're not the person who Shinichi implied, but I still absolutely do not trust you and want to see your flip. If you spent less time trying to smear me and more time actually doing something useful, I'd be a little more contrite about this, but you've been so behaviourally scummy it hurts. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: Actually, this is fair. Denja used it a bunch in this weird way. Sorry about that. My bad. Still, you're going to be a copped shot and it really makes sense that it exists if you are in fact a miller and not just scum. TBF, you're not the person who Shinichi implied, but I still absolutely do not trust you and want to see your flip. If you spent less time trying to smear me and more time actually doing something useful, I'd be a little more contrite about this, but you've been so behaviourally scummy it hurts. You've literally claimed mason with shinichi, who has confirmed scum. If you think I'm not going to scum read your pathetic excuse of 'Oh he's miller so he might die to my desperado shot' when the link YOU provided suggests otherwise, I seriously consider your priorities to be messed up. Just explaining how you're excuse is pathetic is not an attempt to smear you, it's an attempt to give information to people if I die and you live, because you're already scummy by association. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: osieorb18 said: Actually, this is fair. Denja used it a bunch in this weird way. Sorry about that. My bad. Still, you're going to be a copped shot and it really makes sense that it exists if you are in fact a miller and not just scum. TBF, you're not the person who Shinichi implied, but I still absolutely do not trust you and want to see your flip. If you spent less time trying to smear me and more time actually doing something useful, I'd be a little more contrite about this, but you've been so behaviourally scummy it hurts. You've literally claimed mason with shinichi, who has confirmed scum. If you think I'm not going to scum read your pathetic excuse of 'Oh he's miller so he might die to my desperado shot' when the link YOU provided suggests otherwise, I seriously consider your priorities to be messed up. Just explaining how you're excuse is pathetic is not an attempt to smear you, it's an attempt to give information to people if I die and you live, because you're already scummy by association. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think you're just an extra scum, and you're just doing everything you can to make me look bad for doing my job as town. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
osieorb18 said: riku said: You've literally claimed mason with shinichi, who has confirmed scum. If you think I'm not going to scum read your pathetic excuse of 'Oh he's miller so he might die to my desperado shot' when the link YOU provided suggests otherwise, I seriously consider your priorities to be messed up. Just explaining how you're excuse is pathetic is not an attempt to smear you, it's an attempt to give information to people if I die and you live, because you're already scummy by association. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think you're just an extra scum, and you're just doing everything you can to make me look bad for doing my job as town. And I think you're just a scum who's flailing for being called out. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I'm going about my day now; I'll be back in about 7-8 hours. |
| Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams. - WB Yeats |
| Well that was interesting |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
osieorb18 said: If it's taken as a cop role, then it's certainly possible. I honestly don't know, but the mod had said that it checks alignment as a cop check and shoots. Some sort of flavor of "If I thought I was wrong, I'd shoot myself instead" or the like. now gonna lie that kinda seems far fetched, I get ur role supposedly checks alignment, but your telling me there is no safety input for shooting a miller? |
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riku said: Shinichi-Kun said: what's the differ3nce between the 2 even I don't know lol Dunno if i should answer this or not. my heart says yes but my brain says nonono always follow me heart |
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| as scum I can say this your back n forth arguing makes u both look scummy |
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riku said: osieorb18 said: Actually, this is fair. Denja used it a bunch in this weird way. Sorry about that. My bad. Still, you're going to be a copped shot and it really makes sense that it exists if you are in fact a miller and not just scum. TBF, you're not the person who Shinichi implied, but I still absolutely do not trust you and want to see your flip. If you spent less time trying to smear me and more time actually doing something useful, I'd be a little more contrite about this, but you've been so behaviourally scummy it hurts. You've literally claimed mason with shinichi, who has confirmed scum. If you think I'm not going to scum read your pathetic excuse of 'Oh he's miller so he might die to my desperado shot' when the link YOU provided suggests otherwise, I seriously consider your priorities to be messed up. Just explaining how you're excuse is pathetic is not an attempt to smear you, it's an attempt to give information to people if I die and you live, because you're already scummy by association. pair saved me from a lynch because I pocketed him I would call that useful for myself atleast hahaha |
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Shinichi-Kun said: as scum I can say this your back n forth arguing makes u both look scummy hi scum |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: Shinichi-Kun said: as scum I can say this your back n forth arguing makes u both look scummy hi scum hi ^_^ |
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| Unless I die, tonight, Osie or Riku, is 1v1ing me tmr... Because there's just too much wine that can happen from the nk imo |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
lastwhisper31 said: Unless I die, tonight, Osie or Riku, is 1v1ing me tmr... Because there's just too much wine that can happen from the nk imo interesting I'll get to live another day in that outcome ♡ |
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lastwhisper31 said: Unless I die, tonight, Osie or Riku, is 1v1ing me tmr... Because there's just too much wine that can happen from the nk imo dont be stupid lynch shadow and get the vig to use a shot. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
riku said: ?lastwhisper31 said: Unless I die, tonight, Osie or Riku, is 1v1ing me tmr... Because there's just too much wine that can happen from the nk imo dont be stupid lynch shadow and get the vig to use a shot. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| There's a way for Chad to die tonight, idk how u guys can't see it... |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| *scrolls through and sees osie and riku avatars alternating* Are we really doing this again... |
osieorb18 said: theres no way for them to give you info first before shooting begins. It is a very straightforward ability.If it's taken as a cop role, then it's certainly possible. I honestly don't know, but the mod had said that it checks alignment as a cop check and shoots. Some sort of flavor of "If I thought I was wrong, I'd shoot myself instead" or the like. Vig kill is symbolically a cop check. Even better than cop because everybody will know their alignment except they die. xDD |
osieorb18 said: i am with riku for this. Why not shoot Shinichi to prove your role?riku said: You've literally claimed mason with shinichi, who has confirmed scum. If you think I'm not going to scum read your pathetic excuse of 'Oh he's miller so he might die to my desperado shot' when the link YOU provided suggests otherwise, I seriously consider your priorities to be messed up. Just explaining how you're excuse is pathetic is not an attempt to smear you, it's an attempt to give information to people if I die and you live, because you're already scummy by association. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think you're just an extra scum, and you're just doing everything you can to make me look bad for doing my job as town. Your stunt against riku have contingencies and i dont want to listen moar hypotheses. I need results xDD |
| Well those certainly were some unexpected results... |
| Well first things first. Vote: Shinichi-Kun |
| So did Denja claim somewhere and I missed it? Trying to figure out where they got the Karote mafia line from. |
| vote: Shinichi |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Vote:Shinichi-Kun |
abhutrash said: So did Denja claim somewhere and I missed it? Trying to figure out where they got the Karote mafia line from. Same, not sure where they came up with that lol but interesting since he actually did die. |
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ScarletCelestial said: I wouldn't even call that paranoia, honestly, because a lot of things don't add up with osie's role. It's literally word games at this point - masoning Shinichi, who is scum, and it working because he's the godfather (already kind of a stretch). Then shooting riku, who is town, and the shot going through despite the ability specifying this shouldn't be the case just because he's the miller (another stretch). Although the two deaths from last night do suggest the existence of the shot.My paranoia leads me to believe that osie (possibly not Ruu now, but I'll look at her again after school) are scum. They were very happy to claim that Shin was Mason but went back on everything when it looked like he was going to get caught. + Masons suggest that both of them have to be Town since this isn't bastard, and since Shin isn't, I doubt osie is either. My paranoia concerning ash is that they claimed vig, but it might have just been a front. I'm going to bury that fear deep, deep down since they claimed it after they thought they'd die. I agree with this, which is why I think yurkin's vote on him at the end of day 1 is way more significant. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| vote: shin i guess we can start by looking at who shin intereacted with, because we know hes scum. Things to note, both Ruu and Shin buss their teammates. i mean in robot mafia most of the game was me and chad argueing and we were both scum together. and i do understand where Osie's coming from if his desperado is basically a glorified cop check, then it should base who dies off of what a cop check would show, so in this case riku shows up scum to a cop check but flips town... does this mean i dont believe osie can be scum? no, im just looking at the situation as a whole |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| 2 people died o.O, is there really a vigilante and another killing role and mafia that's the question here |
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abhutrash said: So did Denja claim somewhere and I missed it? Trying to figure out where they got the Karote mafia line from. the karote is just naturally scummy so it's no surprised, and denja soft claimed cop so I targeted him without hesitation. |
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