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Aug 27, 2017 12:46 PM

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i've been thinking about this question for some time now. the widespread notion is that everyone should chase happiness. "don't be sad, be happy." i would like to challenge this.

happiness to me creates this illusion. a temporary sensation that deceives my consciousness into thinking that everything will be okay.

lately, when bouts of depression occur, i feel a sense of reality. i find this reality to be more comforting. nothing is to be expected, so i am not being giddied up then resulting to be disappointed. i also have a sense of clarity in my thinking. no longer are my thoughts controlled by passionate emotions.

furthermore, i believe this mood also creates a resilient mind. when you are experiencing it, you are going through some sort of suffering. after it, don't you feel that you've gained something from this experience?

great works have stemmed from depression, take NGE for example.

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happiness is no more illusionary than depression

its just that, in this world of suffering, depression can feel closer to the 'truth'
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Aug 27, 2017 1:13 PM

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How do you define "happiness"?
Happiness for me is if I die without any regrets.
I think happiness was underrated in modern society though. Nowadays, happiness always define as a condition where someone could do and have anything they want. When human has a freedom to do anything and everything without any limits, that is the definition of happiness in modern perspective.
Human forget that life itself has its hierarchy that we can't free ourselves from. Believe me, I have tried to be the one who want to break this hierarchy before but no matter what I did, nothing could changed this situation. That's why we depressed. We want freedom but if we try to free ourselves from this life's hierarchy, we might not feel alive anymore.
So my conclusion, happiness isn't overrated, it's underrated.
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Aug 27, 2017 1:18 PM

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Happiness is the highest point of our positve emotions, depression is the lowest point of the negative side. To disregard happiness is to disregard a whole side to our emotions. Staying neutral is okay I guess, but it isn't genuine, it's natural to feel happy at times and also it's natural to feel depressed at times. Those happy moments is what make life worth living, while we learn and grow from the times when we were depressed.
 
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Aug 27, 2017 1:29 PM

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Hmmm actually happiness IS overrated because people act like you have to make six figures and have a wife and kids to be happy.

In fact even a poor man can be happy... it comes from within. You should be thankful for it like you're thankful for food and water, it can't be priced high or low.
 
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Well, nothing is permanent. Angery reacts only.





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Aug 27, 2017 1:48 PM

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Pseudo_Nym said:
How do you define "happiness"?
Happiness for me is if I die without any regrets.
I think happiness was underrated in modern society though. Nowadays, happiness always define as a condition where someone could do and have anything they want. When human has a freedom to do anything and everything without any limits, that is the definition of happiness in modern perspective.
Human forget that life itself has its hierarchy that we can't free ourselves from. Believe me, I have tried to be the one who want to break this hierarchy before but no matter what I did, nothing could changed this situation. That's why we depressed. We want freedom but if we try to free ourselves from this life's hierarchy, we might not feel alive anymore.
So my conclusion, happiness isn't overrated, it's underrated.

Well, I think short-termed happiness is overrated sometimes, because easier to achieve with fast food, games etc... and feed your reward system, and long-termed is underrated, because it can be hard to build a life you are content with.
 
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Aug 27, 2017 1:58 PM
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I believe it is not everyone must chase happiness; it is natural for human beings to prefer happiness over sadness. Both happiness and sadness are temporary, as nothing during life is permanent. Everything in life is correct no matter if good or bad, as past actions plus some randomness produces the present; if not, life would be wrong. Wise people learn with both happy and sad moments, as there is always something to learn.

Great artworks, as 'Neon Genesis Evangelion', comes from creativity and the willing to produce something to make people think about their own lives, not from depression, even if depression is used as a source material.
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Aug 27, 2017 2:00 PM

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as long as your conscience is at fine state you follow your will. it doesn't need to be overrated if your emotions get in conformity with your conscience
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Aug 27, 2017 2:08 PM
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too much of anything is bad

but being content/satisfied with life sure is better than too much pain and worrying

there is also this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-acceptance like accepting your limitations
 
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t b h feels good to be emotionless 24/8



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Aug 27, 2017 3:49 PM

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psycho said:
t b h feels good to be emotionless 24/8


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Aug 27, 2017 5:32 PM

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Just as the opinion of sheep doesn't matter to a wolf, so the opinion of happy people doesn't matter to me.
 
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Aug 28, 2017 2:56 AM

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I think what's overrated than happiness would be Kimi no Na Wa :/
 
Aug 28, 2017 3:52 AM

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Not any more than sadness.

Maybe try not living by this criteria, choose something that you do endorse.
 
Aug 28, 2017 4:59 AM

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I don't think so? Happiness isn't exactly something that can be labelled one way or another, so calling it overrated isn't really fair. Happiness is different for everyone. For instance, I feel a little happy when I reflect on the fact that we're all here and can talk about happiness, that in and of itself is a marvel to me, and I don't think that's overrated. But if someone told me their idea of happiness was a white picket fence and a nuclear family, I'd be more inclined to think that sort of happiness is overrated, although I still don't because like I said, everyone has a different form of happiness that they're chasing.

Actually scratch that, this is happiness:
 
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I don't think one can truly appreciate joy without having already experienced hardship and sorrow, if that's what you're referring to.

As others have pointed out, "happiness" does not and should not mean the same thing to everyone. Perhaps what brings you a sense of joy and fulfillment is having clarity of thought and a sense of resilience to overcome obstacles despite odds.
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Aug 28, 2017 7:20 AM

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If you mean happiness from the neurobiological standpoint, as in the releasing of neurochemicals which make you feel good physically and emotionally, then no it's about the greatest thing we can experience.
 
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I'll have to ask you: What is the point of comfort and of a resilient mind?
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