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Dec 28, 2016 6:09 PM

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daAmazinFatB0y said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
I used to think not.

I always thought good gameplay always prevails. As long as you have good gameplay, story can hardly matter.


And then I played Yakuza 6.


As a Yakuza fan...I hate you....but i ain't played the damn thing yet so I ain't gonna say anything else.
You don't understand. Yakuza 6's story is truly truly, truly terrible. It's more upsetting than MGSV.
Dec 28, 2016 6:10 PM

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Lobinde said:

erm yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh
Name me one (1) good game with a shitty story but good gameplay that can lasts for hundreds of hours.


MGSV
Skyrim (story is actualy just....ayt....could have been great but is pretty forgettable)
Fallout 3 (I ain't played the DLC but that game had a disgusting ending and the story was....ayt.....like Skyrim)
Pokemon games (while the stories do engage yomu ,there still meh)
Dark Souls 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X (I ain't played it but I hear the story ain't that good but gameplay is awesome)
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Dec 28, 2016 6:12 PM

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
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As a Yakuza fan...I hate you....but i ain't played the damn thing yet so I ain't gonna say anything else.
You don't understand. Yakuza 6's story is truly truly, truly terrible. It's more upsetting than MGSV.


LALALALALALALALALAA!!!! I'm NOT LISTENING!!! I will not let your negativity destroy my excitement! NEVER!!!

That being said, Yakuza 5 story had a lot of problems though it wasn't bad but it was reaching quite a bit

DON'T SPOIL YAKUZA 6 FOR ME!
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Dec 28, 2016 6:41 PM

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daAmazinFatB0y said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
You don't understand. Yakuza 6's story is truly truly, truly terrible. It's more upsetting than MGSV.


LALALALALALALALALAA!!!! I'm NOT LISTENING!!! I will not let your negativity destroy my excitement! NEVER!!!

That being said, Yakuza 5 story had a lot of problems though it wasn't bad but it was reaching quite a bit

DON'T SPOIL YAKUZA 6 FOR ME!


What they did to Haruka is horrible, but the rest seems fine (Yakuza never had a "good" plot, is mostly serviciable for the action that takes place). OST is amazing too, one of the best in the series.

Dec 28, 2016 6:57 PM

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SH4kun said:
daAmazinFatB0y said:


LALALALALALALALALAA!!!! I'm NOT LISTENING!!! I will not let your negativity destroy my excitement! NEVER!!!

That being said, Yakuza 5 story had a lot of problems though it wasn't bad but it was reaching quite a bit

DON'T SPOIL YAKUZA 6 FOR ME!


What they did to Haruka is horrible, but the rest seems fine (Yakuza never had a "good" plot, is mostly serviciable for the action that takes place). OST is amazing too, one of the best in the series.

The plot went downhill after 2, but you could still like some of the characters.

Yakuza 6 was so bad though it even managed to ruin them. Akiyama, Kazuma, and Haruka were some of my favorite characters in the series but after 6 I only really like Kazuma now.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
The plot went downhill after 2, but you could still like some of the characters.

Yakuza 6 was so bad though it even managed to ruin them. Akiyama, Kazuma, and Haruka were some of my favorite characters in the series but after 6 I only really like Kazuma now.


Yakuza 2's plot wasn't good either. Kaoru was a shitty tsundere and Goda a very underwhelming antagonist in comparison to Nishiki. The twists at the end with "that guy" alive and the bombs were absolutely laughlable too. It was never the focus of the games though, the combat and side missions/activities are.
Dec 28, 2016 8:01 PM

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daAmazinFatB0y said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Name me one (1) good game with a shitty story but good gameplay that can lasts for hundreds of hours.


MGSV
Skyrim (story is actualy just....ayt....could have been great but is pretty forgettable)
Fallout 3 (I ain't played the DLC but that game had a disgusting ending and the story was....ayt.....like Skyrim)
Pokemon games (while the stories do engage yomu ,there still meh)
Dark Souls 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X (I ain't played it but I hear the story ain't that good but gameplay is awesome)


Skyrim gameplay is only good with mods. Vanilla Skyrim is below average. As for Pokemon, Gens 1-5 (I've not played 6 and 7 yet because no 3DS) have shit gaemplay mechanics and the grinding is a fucking chore in all of them (probably not in XY though).
Dec 28, 2016 8:08 PM

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
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Just speaking for myself, but Final Fantasy XII, Dishonored and Ocarina of Time, just to name a few.
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Star Ocean 3
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Embodiment of Scarlet Devil. DoDonPachi DaiOuJou. Crimzon Clover. eXceed 3rd, Ikaruga, Ketsui. Basically the entire shmup genre. That's a lot of games.
Let me repeat that again.

Name me one (1) game with a terrible story and GOOD (emphasis on good) gameplay that can lasts for oved 200 hundred hours.
What about Smash? You can play that for thousands of hours and not get bored.
Dec 28, 2016 8:15 PM

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SH4kun said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
The plot went downhill after 2, but you could still like some of the characters.

Yakuza 6 was so bad though it even managed to ruin them. Akiyama, Kazuma, and Haruka were some of my favorite characters in the series but after 6 I only really like Kazuma now.


Yakuza 2's plot wasn't good either. Kaoru was a shitty tsundere and Goda a very underwhelming antagonist in comparison to Nishiki. The twists at the end with "that guy" alive and the bombs were absolutely laughlable too. It was never the focus of the games though, the combat and side missions/activities are.
Did I say it was good?

Yakuza 2's plot was nothing to write home about but it's definitely a lot better than Yakuza 3's "It was his brother all along!" twist and "rubber bullets" bullshit yakuza 4 had.
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Dec 29, 2016 3:16 AM

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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
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Yakuza 2's plot wasn't good either. Kaoru was a shitty tsundere and Goda a very underwhelming antagonist in comparison to Nishiki. The twists at the end with "that guy" alive and the bombs were absolutely laughlable too. It was never the focus of the games though, the combat and side missions/activities are.
Did I say it was good?

Yakuza 2's plot was nothing to write home about but it's definitely a lot better than Yakuza 3's "It was his brother all along!" twist and "rubber bullets" bullshit yakuza 4 had.


This confirms it for ne. Im gonna love Yakuza 6 lol coz I loved the previous games. Im jumping out this thread before a sudden spoiler kicks in and I hate myself for the rest of my life. PEACE!!
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Dec 29, 2016 3:23 AM

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yhunata said:
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MGSV
Skyrim (story is actualy just....ayt....could have been great but is pretty forgettable)
Fallout 3 (I ain't played the DLC but that game had a disgusting ending and the story was....ayt.....like Skyrim)
Pokemon games (while the stories do engage yomu ,there still meh)
Dark Souls 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X (I ain't played it but I hear the story ain't that good but gameplay is awesome)


Skyrim gameplay is only good with mods. Vanilla Skyrim is below average. As for Pokemon, Gens 1-5 (I've not played 6 and 7 yet because no 3DS) have shit gaemplay mechanics and the grinding is a fucking chore in all of them (probably not in XY though).


I guess its different for everyone because I loved Vanilla Skyrim (played first on X360) played 75 hours though it was my 1st proper rpg I think or maybe 2nd after Demons Souls so that was long for me at the time.

I can see where your coming from with Pokemon but id say the grind is fun in Pokemon and I usually hate grinds.
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Dec 30, 2016 4:41 PM

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daAmazinFatB0y said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Name me one (1) good game with a shitty story but good gameplay that can lasts for hundreds of hours.


MGSV
Skyrim (story is actualy just....ayt....could have been great but is pretty forgettable)
Fallout 3 (I ain't played the DLC but that game had a disgusting ending and the story was....ayt.....like Skyrim)
Pokemon games (while the stories do engage yomu ,there still meh)
Dark Souls 2
Xenoblade Chronicles X (I ain't played it but I hear the story ain't that good but gameplay is awesome)


Skyrim's story isn't bad by any means . It's just something not new story-wise (big ass dragon threatening the world appears, and you're the dragonborn enacting the legend and fulfilling your destiny) . It's your classic fantasy story, but i still give it props for succeeding at immersing me in the role of the dragonborn and its lore making the story much more enjoyable .
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