| It seems like the only way to show support for suggestions at the moment is to reply to the post. But some suggestions are fairly straightforward and it just ends up being a string of "+1" reply threads. A simple upvote or like system would make a significant difference I think. |
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| I mean you're not wrong but consider how they'll implement it? They'll have to re-code an entire forum structure for just that. |
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Iizbakaokay said: To add a like button and a counter? That's probably easy tbh.I mean you're not wrong but consider how they'll implement it? They'll have to re-code an entire forum structure for just that. But like, really, every forum has likes and shit. It will prob reduce a lot of shitpost and redundancy in threads too. |
| @rhaphazard Why not create a poll with a "yes" and "no"? It's working/implemented/etc. |
| Idk polls already do that, it'd be really difficult to add a voting system as they would have to change the forums a lot. |
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| That's a good idea, often some good suggestions are forgotten if no one bumps the old thread every now and then :< Upvote system could work in this part of the forum imo. |
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| I don't think suggestions are forgotten. I don't know who does coding for the website, but considering the recent forum post is messed up, I think the staff is small. They only do the best of the best suggestions, and something like upvoting probably isn't a priority. Also, be careful what you call "easy to implement" cause a lot of stuff looks simple, but at its core is incredibly complex. Plus there was already a post on this. A review moderator posted Veronin said: This isn't Reddit. We already have enough idiots trying to be witty for profile clicks. Also A link to the thread I got this from |
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WisestOne said: That's more for forum posts in general. This is just about the suggestions.I don't think suggestions are forgotten. I don't know who does coding for the website, but considering the recent forum post is messed up, I think the staff is small. They only do the best of the best suggestions, and something like upvoting probably isn't a priority. Also, be careful what you call "easy to implement" cause a lot of stuff looks simple, but at its core is incredibly complex. Plus there was already a post on this. A review moderator posted Veronin said: This isn't Reddit. We already have enough idiots trying to be witty for profile clicks. Also A link to the thread I got this from I personally don't mind it cause it's more like seeing all the polls at a glance. I wouldn't hold my breath about this being added though. Otherwise, for the moment you can get a rough idea of a feature request's popularity just by the number of posts it has in it. |
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Tensho said: WisestOne said: That's more for forum posts in general. This is just about the suggestions.I don't think suggestions are forgotten. I don't know who does coding for the website, but considering the recent forum post is messed up, I think the staff is small. They only do the best of the best suggestions, and something like upvoting probably isn't a priority. Also, be careful what you call "easy to implement" cause a lot of stuff looks simple, but at its core is incredibly complex. Plus there was already a post on this. A review moderator posted Also A link to the thread I got this from I personally don't mind it cause it's more like seeing all the polls at a glance. I wouldn't hold my breath about this being added though. Otherwise, for the moment you can get a rough idea of a feature request's popularity just by the number of posts it has in it. I think that's part of the problem though. The number of comments doesn't necessarily equate popularity (or usefulness), and some of the threads in other posts have suffered from the actual conversation being drowned out by people chiming in merely to support the idea. I think the way Hacker News and Stack Overflow have implementing their voting systems are well thought out and a good model to follow. What technologies do you use? I do a bit of coding for fun. Maybe I could help (as a low-priority side project)? |
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| Not this antisocial thread again. This is a suggestion forum for DISCUSSING, not some FB post. If you have an opinion you should say it even if its a yes or no, so others would see what kind of creature are you, newbie, veteran or you just created the account that day... etc. And that little retarded button can be seriously abused (thats why it got removed from other places). And its not like if a suggestion would have 100 supporters, then that suggestion would get implemented. The real reason why there are threads like that is because no matter how good/innovative the suggestion is THIS IS MAL, so you shouldnt expect anything... or maybe after 8 years. rhaphazard said: So it would be better, if the threadswould not have any conversation, just a text saying "20 other ppl support this"? Thats not how you do a conversationI think that's part of the problem though. The number of comments doesn't necessarily equate popularity (or usefulness), and some of the threads in other posts have suffered from the actual conversation being drowned out by people chiming in merely to support the idea. |
Delenai said: Not this antisocial thread again. This is a suggestion forum for DISCUSSING, not some FB post. If you have an opinion you should say it even if its a yes or no, so others would see what kind of creature are you, newbie, veteran or you just created the account that day... etc. And that little retarded button can be seriously abused (thats why it got removed from other places). And its not like if a suggestion would have 100 supporters, then that suggestion would get implemented. Your two arguments seem to be conflicting. If the admin has final say in what is implemented in the end, why does it matter if a suggestion gets upvoted? The real reason why there are threads like that is because no matter how good/innovative the suggestion is THIS IS MAL, so you shouldnt expect anything... or maybe after 8 years. I don't think that's a very useful way to look at it. The forums do look active for the most part, and the people who are active seem to care about the community. As long as the people who care stay active (which they should whether there is a voting system or not), it shouldn't devolve into the chaos you seem to fear so much. There are so many examples of "forums" that maintain a great dialogue among its users while still making use of a voting system. I don't think fear of a possiblity of "antisocial" behaviour is a good enough reason to not implement is a feature that is immediately useful and doesn't seem to cause a problem on other well-maintained platforms. |
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rhaphazard said: No idea how you that the 2 statement contradict each other... 1st statement stated my standing in the matter (which is aganist), 2nd statement said, even if its get implemented it wouldn't do any good (I'm talking about a hypothetical case, and still not supporting the idea)Your two arguments seem to be conflicting. If the admin has final say in what is implemented in the end, why does it matter if a suggestion gets upvoted? And like you said the mods will decide if it gets implemented or not, and not hte number of likes. Thats not why I'm aganist it. I'm aganist it because with this many threads would not have any conversation, everyone could vote anonymously (they do it now woth alt account too, but still at least you know its an alt account), and users with multiaccs could vote up a thread easily (well not like it would do anything, but still) I don't think that's a very useful way to look at it. The forums do look active for the most part, and the people who are active seem to care about the community. Thars not a way of looking, thats a fact. And yes, many ppl care about things here, the problem is that most devs don't care about it at all.As long as the people who care stay active (which they should whether there is a voting system or not), it shouldn't devolve into the chaos you seem to fear so much. I rather care about those, who read these threads, but they would vote anonym rather than sound they opinion.There are so many examples of "forums" that maintain a great dialogue among its users while still making use of a voting system. I don't think fear of a possiblity of "antisocial" behaviour is a good enough reason to not implement is a feature that is immediately useful and doesn't seem to cause a problem on other well-maintained platforms. Where? Here on MAL? If thats the case I don't know I don't read casual threads, but polls and shit still belong there, not here.Or are you talking about other sites? Its better not to compare MAL to other websites because of obvious reason (which is those are 2 different websites) PS: And like others said you could do polls (which I still hate to see here in the suggestion thread) |
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Delenai said: And like you said the mods will decide if it gets implemented or not, and not hte number of likes. Thats not why I'm aganist it. I'm aganist it because with this many threads would not have any conversation, everyone could vote anonymously (they do it now woth alt account too, but still at least you know its an alt account), and users with multiaccs could vote up a thread easily (well not like it would do anything, but still) I have yet to see an upvote system that doesn't have active threads. A better user experience begets more participation. Artificially restricting usability doesn't make discussion better, and in many cases makes it worse for those who are already active participants. Thars not a way of looking, thats a fact. And yes, many ppl care about things here, the problem is that most devs don't care about it at all. The developers/moderators don't care about forum activity? I rather care about those, who read these threads, but they would vote anonym rather than sound they opinion. It really shouldn't matter whether a vote is anonymous or not. Where? Here on MAL? If thats the case I don't know I don't read casual threads, but polls and shit still belong there, not here. Or are you talking about other sites? Its better not to compare MAL to other websites because of obvious reason (which is those are 2 different websites) PS: And like others said you could do polls (which I still hate to see here in the suggestion thread) Isn't the whole point of this Suggestions topic to figure out how to make the website better? What's the point of trying to keep things the same just because that's the way it is? I don't believe in しょうがない  |
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