All reviews and rating are bias, there's no objectivity. stop over valuing ratings

kamisama751 said:

As if only physical things can be measures or anything. And I want to know how qualit is a subjective judgement when it is an characteristic of an object. If you see an asian then that person is an asian. That's a fact, whether it is a judgement or not doesn't matter.

kamisama751 said:

Then tell me how it is possible to measure voltage, time and light intensity. Sorry but I can't agree with this at all. There is a fundmental error in this mindset.

TheBrainintheJar said:


Voltage is measured in jolts. Time is measured in seconds, minutes, hours.

Where's the fundamental error?

Tenshi_Shura said:


The thing is those aren't physical objects. They're non-matters or concepts measured through apparatuses.

kamisama751 said:

How you perceive is subjective because that comes from a subject. But how it is is objective because it is the fixed/absolute quality of an object. Yes, an artwork is an object. Still, a black guy in a show is a black guy in the show. Character X died is character X died. Its characteristics are objective. What type of a show, what messages it wants to deliver and anything else are also objective and won't change becaus ethey are all part of the show. A human being is just not competent enough to fully understand all of it, while also blinded by its own narrow view.

demonskul777 said:







you're late and also bad at reading comprehension



Also. "you can't even hear the voices" "lol whatever. the music isn't outbalancing it. lolololol" ??? if you can barely hear anything that happens because of the music, the mixing is bad. period

AltoRoark said:
Subjectivity =/= immune to judgement. Please stop this bullshit.


Excuse me, "masterpiece" isn't objective to begin with. What I rate high is subjectively better than what i rated low.

omfgplzstop said:


More like, as a human being reliant on your subjective perception, you cannot determine whether this is how the object objectively is or if it's just how you subjectively interpret it.

For you it might be bad, for someone who only cares about the music it will be great. I wasn't late and I fail to see how I'm bad at reading comprehension, considering I haven't even replied to anything you said. All I did was mention something you seemed to have missed to clarify for anyone who might get confused reading the exchange.

It seems that you're still missing the point, though. Or just illogically insisting on trying to force people to agree that what you deem as bad is something they must also deem as bad.

romagia said:
you don't understand i wanna sheet on the bed bananya is the real masterpiece of this year, it has 10-10-10-9 top reviews

demonskul777 said:


I already said that I was wrong and that it's not objectivity though? Like I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

Yes, that's my opinion; I'm stating it in a matter-of-fact way to sound more convincing, that's how discussions work. "It's bad" == "I think it's bad", but I'm not going to do that. That sounds like I'm doubting and you can't sound like you are doubtfull in a discussion or you are guaranteed to lose, so I'm not going to start saying shit like that.

I also referred to my own response as petty, and not to be taken personal:

1. You're late because I already had this discussion in this thread. And, yes, you couldn't know that, I know, I just don't want to have to say the same things over and over again.

2. I only said you were bad at reading comprehension because you missed the fact that that statement wasn't sarcastic and instead assumed I wanted to prove that "'objectivity does exist". I didnn't. I just said "yeah, they could". Because they could. that's all.

Like I shouldn't have to explain this tbh.

kamisama751 said:

As a human being you can determine it, just not fully and sometimes you are misinterpreting it.

But that aside, no matter if you, as a human being, actually can determine it or not, the object is how it is. Its quality is unaffected no matter your interpretation.

Bulmakur said:


An opinion is biased.

Flamian said:


And where is it implied that an biased and subjective point of view isn't the most correct?

Also, who determines the scale of how much bias and subjectivity tip the "absolute" value of a show?

Ofcourse we are all biased, you'd have to be braindead not to be biased, but that does not affect your ability to attempt to get as close to objectivity as you can.

If someone can't distinguish the difference in overall qualities from say Taboo Tatoo to say, Full Metal Alchemist, he besides biased, is probably mentally challenged.
One can create tools to circumvent bias, not totally though as you will never reach absolute objectivity, but you can get pretty darn close.

Bulmakur said:


The correctness of your opinion depends on you and the person you are giving it to. It is up to each of you to accept if it's correct or incorrect.

LMAO you're so persistent in trying to prove that objectivity exist but your arguments are weak asf. It doesn't matter how bias and subjective you are toward a series. Tho it would be great to speak with a sound mind when talking about a series.

Being braindead doesn't remove our bias. Our understanding, conditioning, perception, likes and dislikes cloud our our judgment. You have to think outside these things if you want to discuss without being completely bias/subjective. The problem tho is why should everyone have to do this? People should be free to judge how they want.

FMA is better than Taboo tattoo due to the general consensus. If one person thought Taboo tattoo was better than FMA, that wouldn't make them wrong. Clearly they have a reason for feeling that way. You have no right to force what you think is better on then. You can however have a discussion and try and understand each other. You might even be able to change their mind.

Also opinions can have merits regardless of how bias and subjective they are. I might disagree with your opinion, but I could also see the merit in it.