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Jun 8, 2016 5:17 PM
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Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater?
Video game adaptations are never a good idea.
What is ufotable's problem?
Does anyone actually want this

(Yes, I do recognize that these decisions are made entirely by men in suits, not consumer demand or lack thereof)
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Jun 8, 2016 5:19 PM
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Consumers also sometimes wear suits.
Jun 8, 2016 5:23 PM
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ufotable is looking more and more like a certain animation studio these days...
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Jun 8, 2016 5:24 PM
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Idea Factory made great anime though.
Jun 8, 2016 5:42 PM
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Ikr? Also, why Zestiria? Couldn't they have gone with Vesperia or Xillia?
Jun 8, 2016 6:18 PM
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They are getting paid by Bandai Namco.
Jun 8, 2016 6:37 PM
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err this is a contract animating job for ufotable since its not an original anime

so ye they animate this because

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They are getting paid by Bandai Namco.


^ the real owner of the story or source material in this case the game
Jun 8, 2016 8:04 PM
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Bamco must be desperate if they are funding the adaptation of the worst Tales of game in years much less the most hated ever.


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Hoppy said:
Bamco must be desperate if they are funding the adaptation of the worst Tales of game in years much less the most hated ever.


So you think this is just doing the ol' Idea Factory and making an advertisement for their garbage game?
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Jun 8, 2016 8:29 PM

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Hoppy said:
Bamco must be desperate if they are funding the adaptation of the worst Tales of game in years much less the most hated ever.


So you think this is just doing the ol' Idea Factory and making an advertisement for their garbage game?


Yep and late as hell to boot.


Jun 8, 2016 9:17 PM

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God Eater wasn't bad though?

Besides I'm not familiar with the Tales series but this anime might get me into it which is an anime's primary job.
Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime?
Jun 8, 2016 9:40 PM

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bobzanny said:
God Eater wasn't bad though?

Besides I'm not familiar with the Tales series but this anime might get me into it which is an anime's primary job.


I'm not sure which universe you're from where god eater wasn't universally reviled, but yeah. And no, an anime's job is not purely to successfully solicit consumers to purchase products, but to entertain.
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Jun 8, 2016 10:07 PM

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For better or for worse video game adaptations are what they're known for because it's what put them on the map in the first place. Don't expect them to stop anytime soon, especially since nobody will bankroll such lavish productions for original IPs.

In case it wasn't clear what I was referring to, UBW sold like hotcakes, and that was a video game adaptation.

Also, God Eater is rated 7.56 on MAL, so although it was certainly not good, calling it "universally reviled" is, at best, an exaggeration.
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For better or for worse video game adaptations are what they're known for because it's what put them on the map in the first place. Don't expect them to stop anytime soon, especially since nobody will bankroll such lavish productions for original IPs.

In case it wasn't clear what I was referring to, UBW sold like hotcakes, and that was a video game adaptation.

Also, God Eater is rated 7.56 on MAL, so although it was certainly not good, calling it "universally reviled" is, at best, an exaggeration.


Incorrect. UBW is from Fate Stay Night, which is a porno game. While I'll admit it's probably one of the better porno game adaptations alongside Key stuff, it's still a porno game.

And since when have MAL ratings ever been an accurate indicator of quality? Anyone who's been around for very long knows that they're a pretty useless metric of perceived quality. Look at the numbers behind that. Only 1/3 of the 157k people who started it have even marked it finished yet, and of that 157k, 8.5% (or 13k) have dropped it. Another 6.8% have it on hold, and the show is approaching a year in age, which says to me they probably aren't going to finish it any time soon.

Bottom line- take your MAL scores with a salt shaker.

Shake it a salt shaker
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Jun 9, 2016 9:13 AM
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Ikr? Also, why Zestiria? Couldn't they have gone with Vesperia or Xillia?


Tales of Zestiria the X will have an original storyline from that of the game so hopefully it means they will fix the story inconsistencies.

Besides they already made ToZ OVA, so it would make sense to continue from there.
And the director has made 3 Tales OVA series, two of them are ranked 7.68 and 7.69

so wait before you judge the anime. Like someone else wrote, Shingeki no bahamut is a good example of a great game adaptation
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It doesn't really matter if God Eater was good or not for them the GameXanime bundle sold rather well and is more expensive than the usual BD by about 1000yen, for Tales they must be doing something like that for it maybe with Berseria.
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Emirius said:
Tales of Zestiria the X will have an original storyline from that of the game so hopefully it means they will fix the story inconsistencies.

What a minute, what? Where'd you hear that?
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VarunaBles said:
Emirius said:
Tales of Zestiria the X will have an original storyline from that of the game so hopefully it means they will fix the story inconsistencies.

What a minute, what? Where'd you hear that?


http://talesofseries-the-tales-of.wikia.com/wiki/Tales_of_Zestiria_the_X
Jun 11, 2016 5:12 PM

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On one hand, it might fix the story and characters, which I all disliked. On the other, it might turn into another God Eater which received an edgy overhaul.

Thanks for the info.
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VarunaBles said:

On one hand, it might fix the story and characters, which I all disliked. On the other, it might turn into another God Eater which received an edgy overhaul.

Thanks for the info.


Edgy overhaul? Ifyou are talking about ep 10 of God Eater being AoT-ish. The funny thing is that episode was the best episode of the series
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lawlmartz said:
fst said:
For better or for worse video game adaptations are what they're known for because it's what put them on the map in the first place. Don't expect them to stop anytime soon, especially since nobody will bankroll such lavish productions for original IPs.

In case it wasn't clear what I was referring to, UBW sold like hotcakes, and that was a video game adaptation.

Also, God Eater is rated 7.56 on MAL, so although it was certainly not good, calling it "universally reviled" is, at best, an exaggeration.


Incorrect. UBW is from Fate Stay Night, which is a porno game. While I'll admit it's probably one of the better porno game adaptations alongside Key stuff, it's still a porno game.


Should have used white to emphasize your point instead.
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Edgy overhaul? Ifyou are talking about ep 10 of God Eater being AoT-ish. The funny thing is that episode was the best episode of the series

Actually I was talking about all the episodes. The plot was pretty much remade (unsurprising really) but with increased edginess.

Episode 1 already gave slight AoT vibes from the beginning due to the new MC's grudge against the aragami.
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@VarunaBles said:
@Emirius said:
Edgy overhaul? Ifyou are talking about ep 10 of God Eater being AoT-ish. The funny thing is that episode was the best episode of the series

Actually I was talking about all the episodes. The plot was pretty much remade (unsurprising really) but with increased edginess.

Episode 1 already gave slight AoT vibes from the beginning due to the new MC's grudge against the aragami.


Here, try this.

Yes, god eater is pretty well presented as a ripoff of AOT. Aot itself isn't a wholly original idea either, it was just so extraordinarily popular that it started a trend of anime, such as one before it. It also happened right at the height of the zombie craze and was almost perfectly timed for release to cause such a storm
How to fix the review section, detailed here

The average reader (HS level) reads at about 200 WPM. So a 500-800 word review should take 3-5 minutes to read. That's an acceptable length for something you're interested in spending 25 minutes to 4.5 hours of your life watching.

Oh, and ANN requires any and all reviews to be 800-1200 words, no matter the length of the show.
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Here, try this.

Yes, god eater is pretty well presented as a ripoff of AOT. Aot itself isn't a wholly original idea either, it was just so extraordinarily popular that it started a trend of anime, such as one before it. It also happened right at the height of the zombie craze and was almost perfectly timed for release to cause such a storm

I was entertained more by that review than the series itself.
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VarunaBles said:

I was entertained more by that review than the series itself.


I do my best. Now if only I could get people to read some of my other reviews...
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Video games are hard to adapt perfectly due to their source material usually being so broad. But Ufotable that they were adept at it when they adapted Tales of the Abyss. Despite the apparent universal hate for Zestiria, I actually am enjoying it a lot; Namco's biggest mistake was practically cutting Alisha out of the plot, though. Hopefully she has more of a central focus in the anime because she was amazingly portrayed in the "prologue" episode.
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Video games are hard to adapt perfectly due to their source material usually being so broad. But Ufotable that they were adept at it when they adapted Tales of the Abyss. Despite the apparent universal hate for Zestiria, I actually am enjoying it a lot; Namco's biggest mistake was practically cutting Alisha out of the plot, though. Hopefully she has more of a central focus in the anime because she was amazingly portrayed in the "prologue" episode.


Ufotable didnt make Tales of the Abyss though. They made Tales of Symphonia
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First of all zestiria is not a bad game. It was fun, and I believe they can make a good adaption. Still my favourite Tales game is Xillia which saddens me since it doesnt have an anime adaption, but i liked zestiria
Jun 15, 2016 1:46 PM

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Meh I think they are just experimenting... You know
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Isn't there an anime adaptation of all the Tales games? I think I've got at least two in my Plan to Watch.

Seems pretty par for the course.
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I actually found it ok :3 the special at least
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Isn't there an anime adaptation of all the Tales games? I think I've got at least two in my Plan to Watch.

Seems pretty par for the course.

Not all. Right now theres:
Symphonia
Abyss
Eternia
Phantasia
Vesperia
And now Zestiria
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Inferno_Blaze12 said:
-Mashiro said:
Isn't there an anime adaptation of all the Tales games? I think I've got at least two in my Plan to Watch.

Seems pretty par for the course.

Not all. Right now theres:
Symphonia
Abyss
Eternia
Phantasia
Vesperia
And now Zestiria

Was the symphonia one any good? I loved that game as a kid but never got around to watching the anime.
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Inferno_Blaze12 said:

Not all. Right now theres:
Symphonia
Abyss
Eternia
Phantasia
Vesperia
And now Zestiria

Was the symphonia one any good? I loved that game as a kid but never got around to watching the anime.

It was so-so. Which is better than I could say about Abyss.
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lawlmartz said:
Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater?
Video game adaptations are never a good idea.
What is ufotable's problem?
Does anyone actually want this

(Yes, I do recognize that these decisions are made entirely by men in suits, not consumer demand or lack thereof)


*sigh* Visual novels are also video games. So I guess stuff like fate/zero also shouldn't have become anime, huh? What about stains;gate? Clannad? Persona?
Ufotable did a great job with Fate/zero and an at least respectable job on Fate/UBW. Let's have some faith, shall we
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Tylaen said:
lawlmartz said:


Incorrect. UBW is from Fate Stay Night, which is a porno game. While I'll admit it's probably one of the better porno game adaptations alongside Key stuff, it's still a porno game.


Should have used white to emphasize your point instead.


I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same
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The floped after FSN UBW
"I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya
"There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber
"No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra
"It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr
"Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer
"Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield
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addioo12 said:
Tylaen said:


Should have used white to emphasize your point instead.


I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same
Think you're quoting the wrong person here.
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Tylaen said:
addioo12 said:


I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same
Think you're quoting the wrong person here.


was too lazy to find the original comment.
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I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same


It's not often you find someone willing to defend FSN 'round here. But f'real, let's not kid ourselves, it's a porno game. We all know they stuck those ridiculous sex scenes in it to sell more copies.
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lawlmartz said:
addioo12 said:


I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same


It's not often you find someone willing to defend FSN 'round here. But f'real, let's not kid ourselves, it's a porno game. We all know they stuck those ridiculous sex scenes in it to sell more copies.
If game with 5% sexual content is porn game then well, ok.
it really has sexual content.
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Quirkiness101 said:
Inferno_Blaze12 said:

Not all. Right now theres:
Symphonia
Abyss
Eternia
Phantasia
Vesperia
And now Zestiria

Was the symphonia one any good? I loved that game as a kid but never got around to watching the anime.

I liked symphonia, mainly the second season. Its definitely worth watching if you liked the game
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bobzanny said:
God Eater wasn't bad though?

Besides I'm not familiar with the Tales series but this anime might get me into it which is an anime's primary job.


True, God Eater isn't bad. It may not be original but what matters for me is the entertainment I get from watching it. I also like the art style and animation. :D
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Considering Bamco is pushing Berseria, the direct sequel (well, prequel, but you know what I mean) to this game now, it isn't really all that surprising that they're popping out an anime.
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lawlmartz said:
Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater?
~~Video game adaptations are never a good idea~~~~
What is ufotable's problem?
Does anyone actually want this


Really? NEVER!!?

Outstanding:

Fate Stay Night, Stein;Gate, Clannand, Air, Persona, Kannon, ef: A Tale of Memories, Gungrave...

Decent

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Little Busters, Tales of the Abyss, Danganronpa, Sengoku Basara , Senjou no Valkyria, Layton Kyouju to Eien no Utahime, etc. (any many other adaptations that some of us really enjoyed).

Shows like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, and Digimon, that where and are very popular betwen the young ones.
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@kronopy

The amount of whoosh in your post....

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It's a pre-requisite for a Tales of Berseria anime. I hope. I just saw the latest trailer of that game and it looks so sick.

Also lel, if F/SN is a porno game then technically speaking games like The Witcher 3 and God of War are also porno games.
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I believe God Eater was 10/10
I believe Ufotable is the best studio out there.

Come at me bro.
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lawlmartz said:
addioo12 said:


I think I have to correct you on something here. Fate/stay night consists of no more than maybe 5% sexual content, so calling it a porno game is a bit...
There's also Fate/realta nua, which is fate/stay night,but with the sex scenes removed, while the story is still kept the same


It's not often you find someone willing to defend FSN 'round here. But f'real, let's not kid ourselves, it's a porno game. We all know they stuck those ridiculous sex scenes in it to sell more copies.


At time when FSN was released, Visual Novels could barely sell without sex scenes. If you wanted to make a VN, you needed to have them, otherwise the risk of failure grows rapidly. Typemoon, which was a new company at the time, was not about to take the risk. Nowadays, they cut out the sex scenes from new releases.
Not to mention that FSN's success as a story was one of main reasons why non-eroge VN's became a thing.

With that all said, having sex scenes does not make something a porno game, unless you are a Mormon or some other fanatical Christian/Muslim who thinks that having a little sex in a story makes you porn.

kronopy said:
lawlmartz said:
Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater?
~~Video game adaptations are never a good idea~~~~
What is ufotable's problem?
Does anyone actually want this


Really? NEVER!!?

Outstanding:

Fate Stay Night, Stein;Gate, Clannand, Air, Persona, Kannon, ef: A Tale of Memories, Gungrave...

Decent

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, Little Busters, Tales of the Abyss, Danganronpa, Sengoku Basara , Senjou no Valkyria, Layton Kyouju to Eien no Utahime, etc. (any many other adaptations that some of us really enjoyed).

Shows like Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, and Digimon, that where and are very popular betwen the young ones.


To be perfectly honest, most of these are Visual Novels which are only technically games. They are more like novels.
Regular video games are less often successful (and VN's themselves fail more often than not).

Also, some like Gungrave sucked when they reached the parts from the game and shone when they weer in original material.
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lawlmartz said:
Did ufotable not learn their lesson with God Eater?
Video game adaptations are never a good idea.
What is ufotable's problem?
Does anyone actually want this

(Yes, I do recognize that these decisions are made entirely by men in suits, not consumer demand or lack thereof)


Ufotable did the cinematic animations for Zestiria and God Eater and Bandai Namco has a long history of turning some of their video games into anime, so naturally when Bandai Namco wants to do that with a game that Ufotable was the animation studio for, Ufotable is going to be the ones to produce it. It's not like it's their idea. "Hey Bandai, you guys want this to be an anime?".

It's the same thing with Shaft adapting Fate/Extra. They did the opening animations for the video game, so naturally they're the ones doing the anime.

God Eater wasn't exactly a failure anyway. Besides the issues it had with delays, it was somewhere in the middle of average and above average. Zestiria looks promising enough imo. I enjoyed the 44 minute special they released a few years ago for it.


Side note: Also, anybody that tries to call Fate/Stay Night a porno game is either trolling or, for lack of better terminology, fucking ignorant. I'm going to assume they're trolling because that level of ignorance is frightening. There's like 5 sex scenes between all 3 routes which equates to about 15 minutes of dialogue in a game that takes roughly 40 hours to beat completely. Yeah, definitely a porno game. I'll be sure to request that Steam add the "porno game" tag onto all of the games in The Witcher series then.
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