| Cigarettes killed my father They also beat my mother and raped my sister. |
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ashishkaull said: Yes it should be . Many members in my family circle have died due to smoking . I can't breath in places that have cigarette Smoke . It feels like I am in Hell . I have never smoked . But I am seeing 10 year old kids smoking and they think it looks cool . if they did the black market would just pop up, drugs like marijuana, cocaine etc, they have a thriving black market, so instead of money going into the pockets of drug lords, making it legal like they did in America and then tax the shit out of it. Taxing is probably the best way to deal with it, so the money be used on other projects instead of fighting a drug war |
| I don't mind it. I don't smoke myself (and never will), but I have friends who do. I let them do what they want as long as it doesn't affect my lungs. EDIT: Therefore I obviously think it should not be banned. |
MircallaMorriganMar 2, 2016 6:15 AM
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| No, they should not be banned. There's plenty of information about the dangers of smoking. People, grown-ass adults, have the right to kill themselves however they see fit. If you continue the line of logic that "X shouldn't be legal because it's harmful and kills people", we should also make healthy eating compulsory and ban McDonald's and KFC. |
| If it got banned, the smokers would be pissed off, so, no. Not as long as they are also making money off it, and it has been said countless times that smoking can damage your health, on the packets, adverts etc. Unless you want to consider vaping, but has chemicals we don't know of yet. |
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| we provide the cheap low cost cigarette here ....... come to my country for ur lungs enlightenment ...... we're the heaven for smoker ........ |
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| No. How are salarymen and office ladies supposed to unwind after work without them? |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: if they did the black market would just pop up, drugs like marijuana, cocaine etc, they have a thriving black market, so instead of money going into the pockets of drug lords, making it legal like they did in America and then tax the shit out of it. Taxing is probably the best way to deal with it, so the money be used on other projects instead of fighting a drug war Those are Valid points , never thought that way . That's what they did in India ( This Budget ) . To put it in economic terms that because of additive nature of cigarettes and that it has few close substitutions, it has a inelastic demand. example. if a packet of cigarettes is $10 and then they raise the price to $11,. so lets say the change in price has decreased demand from 1million to 980,000 thousand. this basically means that for a 10% change in price has resulted in only a 2% decrease in demand. this is inelastic because consumers cannot easily substitute away from it so majority will pay the higher price. hope that made sense :D So taxing can actually be quite beneficially in some ways and bad in others. it is positive because they can raise the price quite high and get a lot of tax which can be spent on hospitals, schools etc. it's negative because of the additive nature of cigarettes, lots of people will still pay a higher price then quitting which would be the hoped outcome |
ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: To put it in economic terms that because of additive nature of cigarettes and that it has few close substitutions, it has a inelastic demand. example. if a packet of cigarettes is $10 and then they raise the price to $11,. so lets say the change in price has decreased demand from 1million to 980,000 thousand. this basically means that for a 10% change in price has resulted in only a 2% decrease in demand. this is inelastic because consumers cannot easily substitute away from it so majority will pay the higher price. hope that made sense :D So taxing can actually be quite beneficially in some ways and bad in others. it is positive because they can raise the price quite high and get a lot of tax which can be spent on hospitals, schools etc. it's negative because of the additive nature of cigarettes, lots of people will still pay a higher price then quitting which would be the hoped outcome I will note that down . It may be useful in my sociological studies . i could write it better if you want to note it down? also how do you think the cigarette problem should be dealt with? |
ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: i could write it better if you want to note it down? also how do you think the cigarette problem should be dealt with? Restriction On Production , But I don't think that will work . Higher Prices but for all . There is a local equivalent called BIDI , Its prices are very low compared to cigarette . High Taxes on Producers , That may also not work . some good potential solutions there, i personally would raise the taxes by a big amount, might as well make money off it, i would increase public smoking restrictions and make it even more socially unacceptable to smoke, by teaching more to children. stuff like that |
| Banned? No.. But a three fold hike on taxes should be imposed because not even killing yourself should be allowed scott free.. |
ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: some good potential solutions there, i personally would raise the taxes by a big amount, might as well make money off it, i would increase public smoking restrictions and make it even more socially unacceptable to smoke, by teaching more to children. stuff like that As a Kid I used to play PS2 games in Game stores . Many people used to come there only to hide and smoke . It is Socially unacceptable in my culture but people find weird places to smoke . I have gotten into fights with people for asking them not to smoke any where near me . it's not as socially unacceptable in Australia because of the smoking and drinking culture that Australia has |
| No because if you ban smoking for X, Y & Z reasons then you can easily ban a multitude of others things based on the same reasons (which will lead to a super "nanny state" society and a distinct erosion of rights etc). |
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ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: it's not as socially unacceptable in Australia because of the smoking and drinking culture that Australia has West is pretty much open society , Such things are not a big deal . But here , Society ( Majority ) is more traditional than modern . true, but the it's become culturally acceptable to smoke not just cigarettes to, and drink, traditionalism does have some benefits |
Tokis86 said: No because if you ban smoking for X, Y & Z reasons then you can easily ban a multitude of others things based on the same reasons (which will lead to a super "nanny state" society and a distinct erosion of rights etc). and it's not a nanny state already?. |
| One or two cigarettes a week aint bad though. |
GenericAnimeName said: Tokis86 said: No because if you ban smoking for X, Y & Z reasons then you can easily ban a multitude of others things based on the same reasons (which will lead to a super "nanny state" society and a distinct erosion of rights etc). and it's not a nanny state already?. Its already a nanny state but that's why I said "super nanny state'" (it will get worse than it already is). |
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Tokis86 said: true, they probably will do this, just to make more money....Its already a nanny state but that's why I said "super nanny state'" (it will get worse than it already is). |
| No. People who want to ban smoking should be banned from society. Prohibition NEVER works. The disaster of the prohibtion on alcohol in the 1920s and "the war on drugs" prove that when you criminalise desired products, you open the door to organised crime to take over the business, the results are disasterous and many lives are ruined, many more than would otherwise be the case. The fact of the matter is in my country, tobacco is quite legal but there are massive taxes on it making it very expensive and this has resulted in some smokers who cannot afford their habit any more resorting to buying cheaper black market tobacco that is often poorer quality or tainted in some way and presents a much greater health hazard (as has also been the case with other banned substances in the past such as dangerous bootleg alcohol during the prohibition era). I'm not saying smoking is a healthy choice, but it IS a choice. |
| This proposed cigarette ban seems like it would work as well as a ban against drugs in communal housing. Which is to say not at all. The war on smoking vs the war on the poor. Who is offended enough to win? WHO IS OFFENDED ENOUGH TO WIN FIND Out ThiS SATURDAY NGITHTTTTHTH |
ashishkaull said: GenericAnimeName said: true, but the it's become culturally acceptable to smoke not just cigarettes to, and drink, traditionalism does have some benefits I don't know where Humans will head towards . But personally speaking , A tug of war is taking place within me regarding the Dualities of Life . that uncertainty is what makes the future so unpredictable, there is so much to ponder about life |
| No, if they want to spend exorbitant amounts to kill themselves, it really isn't my problem. I think it should be banned in crowded outdoor areas though. |
| Ha! To get banned - not a chance. We live on the planet ot the smokers after all. |
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| Yeah, like religions, and maybe your threads too. *blows smoke on his screen* I don't get the obsession with cigarettes when the west is just a giant alcoholic fuckfest but k. I'd rather breathe pure carbon dioxide than deal with people who drink 1l of legal hard drugs every day. |
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| We should ban pants instead, they're annoying as fuck. Let's all wear skirts and dresses. |
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| Cigarettes wouldn't be half as bad if they weren't poisoned with chemicals. A lot of problems would be solved with just the reintroduction of natural tobacco. Also education should teach people how to drink and smoke in moderation if they want to, not how it is satan (like sex ed in the past). Also the majority of lung cancer happens to non-smokers, biggest cause being air pollution in cities. |
mecharobot said: A lot of problems would be solved with just the reintroduction of natural tobacco. ....right, because the heavy metal toxins the tobacco plant naturally accumulates from the soil has nothing to do with how dangerous it is or anything. |
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
| No, because the amount of vape kids would increase. |
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| If you knew anything about the war on drugs you would know that banning drugs won't stop it, but change the supplier to an illegal source. It's just going to make things worse. |
| there are a few other things I'd ban first from public.... |
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| If I had the power to choose, I would definitely ban them. I think it's a load of bullshit that the NHS has to deal with idiots who smoke themselves to death. I wouldn't really care, but when the staff are being overworked and there aren't any beds free for genuine patients with actual issues because some idiot's destroyed their body because they couldn't put their fags down, I can't help but feel there's an injustice there. But this goes for everything that's self-inflicted. |
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ItsMaz said: If I had the power to choose, I would definitely ban them. I think it's a load of bullshit that the NHS has to deal with idiots who smoke themselves to death. I wouldn't really care, but when the staff are being overworked and there aren't any beds free for genuine patients with actual issues because some idiot's destroyed their body because they couldn't put their fags down, I can't help but feel there's an injustice there. But this goes for everything that's self-inflicted. Yeah I hear you....We should ban fat people too! |
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Spooks said: I-I don't really agree with this sentiment but if Spooks says so it must be right.ItsMaz said: If I had the power to choose, I would definitely ban them. I think it's a load of bullshit that the NHS has to deal with idiots who smoke themselves to death. I wouldn't really care, but when the staff are being overworked and there aren't any beds free for genuine patients with actual issues because some idiot's destroyed their body because they couldn't put their fags down, I can't help but feel there's an injustice there. But this goes for everything that's self-inflicted. Yeah I hear you....We should ban fat people too! |
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| Yes cigarettes should be banned, they are useless and harmful not only for the smoker but for all, too bad there 's too much money involved |
| Drinking a shit load and smoking a shit load is just throwing money into the suicide fund. People who do this shit are banning themselves out of life lol, let them. |
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