Why do certain people hate Call of Duty for not innovating but praise the hell out of Nintendo games
Thrashinuva said: I don't care if you found the game overall to be not as challenging as other games or tasks. Saying that the water temple was the easiest part of the game is elitism. Simple as that. What is so hard to understand in this: I FOUND THE FUCKING WATER TEMPLE TO BE THE EASIEST PART OF THE FUCKING GAME! That is me expressing a fucking opinion. |
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| This just in : games don't need to be innovating to be fun. Surprising, right? CoD is just not really fun for me. Never was a big fan of shooters. I like Nintendo games a lot tho. |
| A list of Dungeons in OoT: Inside the Deku Tree Dodongo's Cavern Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly Forest Temple Fire Temple Ice Cavern Water Temple Bottom of the Well Gerudo's Training Ground Shadow Temple Spirit Temple Inside Ganon's Castle This is only the dungeons. There's much more to the game, but I feel within the dungeons alone, there should be something you feel is easier than the Water Temple. Maybe you had a hard time unlocking Epona. Maybe you had a hard time getting caught by the guards while infiltrating Hyrule Castle. Maybe Dampe's hookshot race was too challenging. Maybe the lost forest was a literal mindfuck for you. Maybe Ghoma just wasn't obvious on how you have to kill it. Maybe you couldn't figure out how to break the web in the middle of the first room. Maybe you couldn't figure out that 23 was the number 1. And so on and so forth, and that's all why you found the water temple to be the easiest. |
| Are you really gonna continue this bullshit? Why does me finding the Water Temple to be the easiest part of the game make your butt hurt so much? I cruised through the WT and finished the boss off without getting hit once (though I did have to play through it twice because it crashed before I could save). The only thing difficult about the WT was the fight with Dark Link and even that wasn't really that difficult. As far as these go: Thrashinuva said: 1.Maybe you had a hard time unlocking Epona. 2.Maybe you had a hard time getting caught by the guards while infiltrating Hyrule Castle. 3.Maybe Dampe's hookshot race was too challenging. 4.Maybe the lost forest was a literal mindfuck for you. 5.Maybe Ghoma just wasn't obvious on how you have to kill it. 6.Maybe you couldn't figure out how to break the web in the middle of the first room. 7.Maybe you couldn't figure out that 23 was the number 1. 1. I am not that good with timing, so I had a little difficulty with his jumps. As for the race itself, it took me two tries because I used up my carrots way too quickly. 2. The guards were quite easy. 3. Finished on first try. 4. Took me 3 tries to figure out the pattern. 5. Took me a minute to learn how to defeat it. 6. Using common sense helped a lot. 7. You mean those things inside the Deku Tree that sprung out and hurled nuts at you? I first thought that was just a trick to fool me, but figured it out pretty quickly (I'm good at logic based stuff). All that and I still managed to find the WT temple easier. I'm not even kidding. I was disappointed at how fucking annoying the damn place was (having to change boots every minute or so) and at the fact that calling the boss a pushover was to compliment it.... by a lot. And amongst the dungeons, the WT was by far the easiest. |
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| Because nintendo games are good. Splatoon is the bease "shooter" I have ever played. The only nintendo thing that I would compare to COD levels of recyling is shitty new super mario bros which had like 4 instalments that where all pretty much the same. Super mario 3d world was awesome too. People complaining about how all the 3d zeldas are re-skins of OOC, fair enough point but OOC isn't that great and MM,WW,TP and SW are all better in different ways. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I think a lot of people bashing Call of Duty and Nintendo games aren't actually playing them themselves. They make baseless assumptions and assume there's nothing innovative. Complaining about yearly sequels is rather silly when the fanbase is strong enough to make it profitable. Look at Guitar Hero and Rockband. The tried to be a yearly franchise, but there wasn't enough innovation to keep them from adding more songs and dlc to get millions of sales. 5 years later they're returning and they claim that that's that for this generation. Nintendo kinda does this model too. 1 smash per generation 1 mario kart per generation 2 mario games (the 3d platformers) 2 zelda games Keep in mind that it appears they're rehashing game after game... but in actuality they're not. 1-2 games a generation is enough to keep people happy. Now you'll tell me Pokemon is getting rehashed. 2011- Black/ White 2012 - Black 2/White 2 2013 - Pokemon X & Y 2014 - Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire Yes. Lots of Pokemon the past 4 years. No excuses there. Black 2/White 2 and Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire are what I call filler years since they're not truly innovating, but refining the experience. If you guys follow Pokemon and play the games, you'll realize that when you add new Pokemon and when the game mechanics change (example changing the accuracy of moves, damage of moves, PP of moves, adding a new type (fairy), etc the whole meta changes. On a baseless casual observation you'll complain that it's the same game since Red and Blue.... and you're completely offbase because you haven't even played since Red and Blue.....) The same goes for Call of Duty. They update the maps and the weapons and the physics. Casuals don't see that as big. But people who actually play Call of Duty see huge changes for the better or worse. The only true problem is with Sports Games because innovation is limited to the actual sport. There's only so much they can do. Those games should be per generation... but they sell millions upon millions of copies because the fans demand it as physical copies. Another franchise that gets criticized for yearly installments is Street Fighter. To the casual eye, they see it as yearly updates. Core players see it as a huge shift in the meta similar to when Pokemon and Call of Duty changes the mechanics. When a move gets more advantage or disadvantage that can make a huge difference. Some people say they can fix that with free patches and Capcom does that, but when they want to add new stages, costumes, and characters they give the option of retail disk or 15 dollar dlc. I think that's fiar. Blazblue is more extreme with 2-3 new characters and balance tweaks, but no option to buy as DLC. TLDR; core players see the difference in the versions while casuals complain that they don't see the difference. When core gamers dwindle (in case of Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero) then the cycle takes a break. If there's enough core gamers (Pokemon, Call of Duty, Madden) then keep making enough content to please the core gamer. |
ReynTimeJun 7, 2015 11:32 AM
yhunata said: The only thing difficult about the WT was the fight with Dark Link and even that wasn't really that difficult. I had forgotten all about this. Thank you for reminding me. Also it's come to my knowledge that the 3DS version was much easier, and the Water Temple was nerfed severely. Is this the version that you played? |
ThrashinuvaJun 7, 2015 7:59 PM
Thrashinuva said: yhunata said: The only thing difficult about the WT was the fight with Dark Link and even that wasn't really that difficult. I had forgotten all about this. Thank you for reminding me. Also it's come to my knowledge that the 3DS version was much easier, and the Water Temple was nerfed severely. Is this the version that you played? I was playing on Project 64. I will say that I did need a guide for Majora's Mask, though. I was convinced I was doing something wrong because I couldn't get to the tower before the third day was up. |
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Thrashinuva said: the entire game felt nerfed in general but yeah the Water Temple is a joke in the 3DS version. On the N64 the nightmare is partially caused by changing your boots every minuteAlso it's come to my knowledge that the 3DS version was much easier, and the Water Temple was nerfed severely. Is this the version that you played? |
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| Call of duty always making the same games and it really gets boring but in Nintendo games at least they don't bring out like 50 of the same game every year call of duty is like Fifa they bring one out every year. They both are just going to far there just f**king greedy hoes that are dancing in there money while we are still paying for the same game as last year they really are bad at making new ideas. |
MichaelJun 8, 2015 2:21 AM
Exploderino said: Nintendo games at least they don't bring out like 50 of the same game every year call of duty is like Fifa they bring one out every year.. So do they bring out 50 call of duties a year or one a year? because you're saying two different things there. Also every year or so aye?  You see this is the problem with fan bias, everyone's just sitting on their side, taking shots at the other company for doing the same thing they're ignoring on their end. You're all fan boys in this thread and both sides are looking pretty sad right now. |
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Baelish said: Exploderino said: Nintendo games at least they don't bring out like 50 of the same game every year call of duty is like Fifa they bring one out every year.. So do they bring out 50 call of duties a year or one a year? because you're saying two different things there. Also every year or so aye? You see this is the problem with fan bias, everyone's just sitting on their side, taking shots at the other company for doing the same thing they're ignoring on their end. You're all fan boys in this thread and both sides are looking pretty sad right now. I forgot about Mario Party. |
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Baelish said: Exploderino said: Nintendo games at least they don't bring out like 50 of the same game every year call of duty is like Fifa they bring one out every year.. So do they bring out 50 call of duties a year or one a year? because you're saying two different things there. Also every year or so aye? You see this is the problem with fan bias, everyone's just sitting on their side, taking shots at the other company for doing the same thing they're ignoring on their end. You're all fan boys in this thread and both sides are looking pretty sad right now. but over all cod is th same game every year Machacacaly spaking while all the mario games listed are digter on Ludo centric level mario sunshine id different to mario kart and even with in mario party there is alot of diffents in the mini games un like cod witch is in fact the same Maniacally |
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