Do you punish pets if they did something wrong?

Chikamtsu said:
If I find your mother I'm gonna make her pee on my carpet that way I could jail her and pee on her at my heart's content. I'm gonna create the first peep abduction and use it as example. There's a time for the pees parties and there's times where I have to be serious. Don't make me repeat myself.

Saki-nyan said:

Who woulda thunk it?!

Saki-nyan said:
... Just spitting the usual animal rights bullshit...

Chikamtsu said:

Where does he/she talked about animals rights ?
Don't try to act like you don't give a shit about shits.
I don't personally hate you but you should stop talking about anything and everything. You're the one off-topic!

Saki-nyan said:

First off, you retard, ingrate means an ungrateful person, so at least you should look up what words mean. Second, I take it you don't know shit about keeping animals. Just spitting the usual animal rights bullshit. Many breeders keep young cats in cages so they won't wander off and many times the mother doesn't want to feed them, even when they need it. That's why we put them in big cages. But of course somebody like you, who knows nothing at all about it, just spitting bullshit knows better.

Chikamtsu said:

Where does he/she talked about animals rights ?
Don't try to act like you don't give a shit about shits.
I don't personally hate you but you should stop talking about anything and everything. You're the one off-topic!

crestofhonesty said:

Yeah, someone who is going to call me a "retard" is going to lecture me on fucking how to use words? Ingrate can be also be used to described a lower class of human being, possessing a low I.Q. So why it does mean ungrateful person, it can be used in other context. But, yeah, since you use such vocabulary as "retard", guess I shouldn't argue with you now, aye?

I know shit about taking care of animals, apparently you don't. Again, I'm not talking about preventing them for wondering off. Again, you can find other ways outside of caging them up. But why do that right? Why seek out more ethical ways of preventing very small dogs and cats, and others animals for getting to dangerous harm, when can fucking lock them up in a cage all day, or for a decent amount of time.

I saw a YouTube video, of casual, everyday, vloggers, where they left one a webcam of sorts in their room and they left their dog, and he kept howling and moaning a crying. Also, in most videos some on their dogs come off as aggressive. Maybe it's because they put them in cages, perhaps?

I'm not sewing bullshit. I'm spewing ethical partical and compassiante options and choices.

Fuck off.

Veinless said:
He didn't say it, but he implied it was the animals right. It isn't that hard to pick up.
Secondly, you probably should stop acting like a retard.

crestofhonesty said:

How did I imply anything about animal rights? Point it out. Give me an example of a context I implied it.

Saki-nyan said:
Ummm, where he said keeping animals in cages is always wrong?
And of course, quoting one sentence from a big post makes it seem off-topic.
And you insulting my mother was so elegant and on-topic, right?

Chikamtsu said:

I don't insult people, I said I would create a pee abduction. It's not always wrong because like I said I would make your mother in mine...

In all peace of mind, stop being stupid, just look at what you wrote before calling people retards...

I don't think people need someone to tell them they are wrong putting someone in a cage... So how come you call it a right ? Since most of the rights do not apply for animals (at least for the moment).

Saki-nyan said:
Lmao, so you saw a Youtube video, where the owner put the dog in a cage and left him alone? And now you think that means everyone leaves their animals alone in a cage with no food?

Saki-nyan said:
You still can't understand that I'm talking about small animals put in a cage. Yet you give examples were grown up animals are thrown in cages. Did I ever say I do that? Do you think a 12cms wide kitten is the same as a 1m wide dog?

Saki-nyan said:
And lol, you call me a lower class of a human being, and then you find me calling you a retard wrong? Are you for real.

Saki-nyan said:
And why did you call me a lower case of human being in the first place? Because I told you that putting animals in cages is not always wrong?

Saki-nyan said:
If you would know what you are talking about, you'd see all I said is that there are some exceptions where putting animals in cages is not wrong. On the contrary, it helps the..

Saki-nyan said:

The million times you said animals should never be put in cages.

crestofhonesty said:


It's called an example you half-witted baboon. I didn't just see that video and all of a sudden my whole view changed. I was using it as to further my point.

I can't find the video, because, again, they are everyday vloggers, so they have a lot of videos.

But it's here on this channel, if anyone wishes to seek it out.


Yes, I understand completely. I just disagree entirely. Someone disagreeing with who doesn't mean they don't understand what you're saying.

No, you didn't and never said you did say that.

No, I don't think a 12cms wide kitten is the was a 1m dog. It still doesn't disregard how I feel about any animal, of any sort does not, ever, belong in a cage. There is no justifiable reason for it.

Again, if you are worried about small, tiny, companions wondering off. Find other viable options other than changing them up.


I'm talking about you're vocabulary. As in, it isn't a very intellectual word to use. Which is fucking brilliant coming for someone trying to use a word that usually is meant to imply stupidity, what have you.

Also, the word "retard" can be arguably be said to be a ablest slur and mean hinder, obstruct.


I was more referring to your I.Q level. It's a word for emphasis, not meant in literal context.

Saki-nyan said:
And don't come with this "find another solution", because there is no another solution.

Saki-nyan said:
Nobody has the time to stay with kittens 24/7, and not because I don't give a damn about them. Are you with your animal(s) 24/7? No. Then what makes you think they are not lonely all alone in a house?

Saki-nyan said:
And how about a situation where your cat gets hurt, breaks it's leg and the doctor says he can't jump down from anywhere? You are there with him 24/7 to make sure he doesn't hurt himself or you put him in a big cage for the time being?

crestofhonesty said:
Why seek out more ethical ways of preventing very small dogs and cats, and others animals, from getting into dangerous harm, when we can fucking lock them up in a cage all day, or for a decent amount of time.

crestofhonesty said:

How is there "not other solution"? Explain.


I never implied they couldn't get lonely. In fact, that is more or less my point. They get lonely, sad, and on top of that they are stuck in a cage. How is that right?

That just seems horrible. But I guess you can't seem to emphasis with that.


I already addressed the caution of danger.

Chikamtsu said:
There is no need doing anything else because by calling them "pets" you've already did your job as tyrant.

PS: It's as simple as saying hello, if you don't want animals in your house then don't let animals get in (by closing it). Stop shouting and harming animals just because you are angry !

Saki-nyan said:
1. 90% of people don't have the money to hire someone to take care for animals.

Saki-nyan said:
2. I'd rather put my small cat in a cage so she won't get hurt, and of course she would be sad, instead of letting her roam free, where she could easily do harm to herself (in a case where even the smallest thing could cause her harm, like jumping with a broken leg). Not saying I'd keep them in cages when I'm here. And also, in the case where the mother cat decides to abandon her kittens, putting her in a cage with her kittens saves the kittens' lives.

Saki-nyan said:
I find it hilarious how you have no problem with the other user's comment who said he would rather let the mother be free and not care about her kittens (which means they die without feeding eventually). So much fucking animal freedom, don't put the mother in a cage cuz she will be sad, it doesn't matter that all of her kittens would die.

Saki-nyan said:
3. You need to understand, in a situation where a cat breaks her leg and even the smallest movement (a jump f.e.) can cause horrible pain to her, you can't even hire anyone to take care of her, since the cat can do harm to herself in the smallest amount of time. The caretaker takes a piss, the cat already jumped down and made her leg's situation worse.

Saki-nyan said:
Of course, when you are there, you can let the cat roam freely, but when you are sure nobody is around to take care of her, there is no choice but to put her in a cage while she recovers.

crestofhonesty said:

There are other options besides that. Pet sitters were just one of the other options I proposed viable for some people.

People could try and call a close friend, neighbour, family member to come over a watch the animals, why you're out, for not.

Just all the doors in the house. Bathroom door, bedrooms, what have you. This can help and is what I did at first when leaving my cat alone for the first time.

I no longer need to do his.

If you are worred about them getting into the kitchen, where a sharp knifes and such are about, block it off, maybe, perhaps with one of these things.

Again, there are options out there. You just need to seek them out and see which ones are viable for you, that doesn't require putting animals in a cage.


We're just alliterating points now. Yes, okay, animals can get into harms. You can I acknowledge it, great.

I personally will never put an animal in cage for any reason, even for reasons for such as preventing them from harm, because they are other ways to prevent them for getting into harm, as shown above.

I don't see want mother and her kittens have anything to do with what is stated topic at hand. You're just spewing off topic arguments, continuously.


I didn't even notice that comment. You responded to me. So I responded back. It's really that fucking simple.


Lol, I don't need to understand that, because I already fucking. Again, I acknowledge animals can get into harm. Again, there are ways other than cages which cases like these can be prevented, like stated above.


Nope, definitely other options when one is out than locking them up in a cage.

black1blade said:
Putting a cat in a cage is fine if you are bringing them to a vet's ect.

Saki-nyan said:
Okay, please actually list your "opinions", where someone can actually be with your animal 24/7, without even leaving the animal (which has a broken leg) alone for half a minute.
Because half a minute is more than enough for an animal to hurt itself.

crestofhonesty said:

Are you really under the impression animals, more so in this instance, cats and dogs, need someone around them protecting them all the time, 24/7?

Animals, specifically cats, are not that dumb or incapable. They are intelligent enough to often fend for themselves.

Saki-nyan said:
But not when they are hurt and the smallest things can make their situation worse.

crestofhonesty said:

We aren't talking as if they are already hurt. We're talking about the hypothetical situation where they could be hurt or get into dangerous situations.

That said, my kitty/cat is curious as fuck, but she doesn't go hurting herself or anything of the sort. She knows how to navigate safely to what she is curious about.

Saki-nyan said:
So much fucking animal freedom, don't put the mother in a cage cuz she will be sad, it doesn't matter that all of her kittens would die...

Saki-nyan said:

But I was talking about a situation where the cat was already hurt. Read back.

Saki-nyan said:
Of course, when they are not hurt, I obviously don't worry about my cats running free. But I was extremely cautious when one of my cats was pregnant, I never let her run or jump around like a madman.

Saki-nyan said:
One of my cats likes jumping on the curtains. I don't worry about him since he can take care of himself (but let's not talk about how much I like him doing it...)

Saki-nyan said:
but obviously I would never let a pregnant cat or a cat that just recovered from a leg break do it, and I would try to prevent it from happening.