bigivelfhq said: Sorry, but he is right! I read it and while is entertaining Akame ga Kill would be that kind of series that I would only read in magazine format and not buy the volumes. Almost everything that happens is for pure and simple shock value but without any depth. Note: Lately I'm getting pretty irritated with Main Character Harem power. Before I could just ignore it, but lately doing that is not possible. Exactly this, for guys who wonder why AgK isn't doing well. It's simply not that good. |
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ichii_1 said: I doubt the Magi thing, it drops like big a$$ rock after reaching 500 K or so, hell even volume 19 can't be seen anymore, the other volumes must be selling a couple of hundreds only :( which leaves a big gap open ;) Instead of calling bullshit why don't you calculate and see if it is feasible? So we have in the first half: Magi selling 3,085,177 Total. Let's see the volume sales: 678,473 for volume 20 567,134 for volume 21 for a total of 1,245,607 Also we know that the other volumes sold less than 272,902 the sales of the number 100 volume in the list. 3,085,177 - 1,245,607 = 1,839,570. This is the number of volumes sold by the rest of volumes of Magi, from volume 1 to 19. 1,839,570 / 19 = 96,820. So in average the other 19 volumes had just to sell 96,820 copies each for the result to be right. The number is way below the limit of 272,902. So is very much possible that is just the number of the volumes of the main series and not the spin-offs. Information: The ones that make the charts aren't the publishers, but Oricon and so there aren't any favoritism at all. The data that Oricon asks is the same for every title and the processing of that data is also the same. Also note that Oricon doesn't ask for data directly to the publishers, but to the retailers. The only thing that Oricon merges together is the sales of normal editions and special editions of a title in the end of the year and the Half year. |
Amiluhur said: phreeak said: have u read AgK or do you saw only the 7 episodes? Call me a random hater or whatever you want, but that's the kind of feelings i've gotten from reading about 30 chapters or so of the series. The poor writing is just obvious; barely developed characters, cartoonish villains, utter lack of meaningful plot, etc. Sure it's good at what it does (over the top shonen actions), but when it comes to proper writing, it's lacking so much. ah ok.. havent read the manga. i was just curious. :) |
| wow wow wow, SAO still sells like crazy :P I'm happy with it <3 Look at those shingekis and ghouls, tho... |
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bigivelfhq said: ichii_1 said: I doubt the Magi thing, it drops like big a$$ rock after reaching 500 K or so, hell even volume 19 can't be seen anymore, the other volumes must be selling a couple of hundreds only :( which leaves a big gap open ;) Instead of calling bullshit why don't you calculate and see if it is feasible? So we have in the first half: Magi selling 3,085,177 Total. Let's see the volume sales: 678,473 for volume 20 567,134 for volume 21 for a total of 1,245,607 Also we know that the other volumes sold less than 272,902 the sales of the number 100 volume in the list. 3,085,177 - 1,245,607 = 1,839,570. This is the number of volumes sold by the rest of volumes of Magi, from volume 1 to 19. 1,839,570 / 19 = 96,820. So in average the other 19 volumes had just to sell 96,820 copies each for the result to be right. The number is way below the limit of 272,902. So is very much possible that is just the number of the volumes of the main series and not the spin-offs. Information: The ones that make the charts aren't the publishers, but Oricon and so there aren't any favoritism at all. The data that Oricon asks is the same for every title and the processing of that data is also the same. Also note that Oricon doesn't ask for data directly to the publishers, but to the retailers. The only thing that Oricon merges together is the sales of normal editions and special editions of a title in the end of the year and the Half year. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-11-20/japanese-comic-ranking-november-11-17 Let's see Magi volume 19 is at 20 K that week before the deadline that means it sold less about 10 K then following week and that's a pretty new volome which means the others have sh!t sales which means the 98 K each is pure BS which means other stuff was included. |
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| ^ It's for the half year ranking, but the sales keep going down every week, that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O And you're telling me other old volumes are selling thousands when even the NEW VOLUME is having trouble selling that amount after 3 or 4 months? |
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ichii_1 said: ^ It's for the half year ranking, but the sales keep going down every week, that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O And you're telling me other old volumes are selling thousands when even the NEW VOLUME is having trouble selling that amount after 3 or 4 months? Troll is obvious. |
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ichii_1 said: Now obviously most people would want to buy earlier volumes first, then buy the new ones.And you're telling me other old volumes are selling thousands when even the NEW VOLUME is having trouble selling that amount after 3 or 4 months? |
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ichii_1 said: ^ It's for the half year ranking, but the sales keep going down every week, that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O And you're telling me other old volumes are selling thousands when even the NEW VOLUME is having trouble selling that amount after 3 or 4 months? Man, why do you only talk is bullshit instead of doing the math! Do you even know how to do that? Half a year are 6 Months and so 24 weeks(4 weeks each month). To make 97k a volume has to sell in average 4, 042 copies per week. So is still very probable with your assumption. Basically a volume after some time has to decrease to sell around 4k. |
bigivelfhq said: ichii_1 said: ^ It's for the half year ranking, but the sales keep going down every week, that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O And you're telling me other old volumes are selling thousands when even the NEW VOLUME is having trouble selling that amount after 3 or 4 months? Man, why do you only talk is bullshit instead of doing the math! Do you even know how to do that? Half a year are 6 Months and so 24 weeks(4 weeks each month). To make 97k a volume has to sell in average 4, 042 copies per week. So is still very probable with your assumption. Basically a volume after some time has to decrease to sell around 4k. Lol XD 1 year has 52 weeks so half a year is 26 weeks, do your math please :( Cool, since the latest volume barely reaches 1 K per week after a while so the older ones must be in the dozens per week :( how about reading comprehension. |
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ichii_1 said: bigivelfhq said: Man, why do you only talk is bullshit instead of doing the math! Do you even know how to do that? Half a year are 6 Months and so 24 weeks(4 weeks each month). To make 97k a volume has to sell in average 4, 042 copies per week. So is still very probable with your assumption. Basically a volume after some time has to decrease to sell around 4k. Lol XD 1 year has 52 weeks so half a year is 26 weeks, do your math please :( Cool, since the latest volume barely reaches 1 K per week after a while so the older ones must be in the dozens per week :( how about reading comprehension. Ok, all the spin off series are included do you feel better now? Now attack on titan will probably sell over 20 million with the help of the spin off series, one piece has no chance for getting #1 spot. What you need to do now is to tell the author that spin off manga will help boost the main series sales, althout it will be made by a different mangaka and it will also sell separately from the main series, but who cares as long as they add in the spin off series Toriko would do good if it has around 20 spin off maybe it would finally sell over 1 million this year. XD Spin off series is the key people. |
keragammingAug 21, 2014 10:47 PM
| Nice to see that silver sproon is doing well:D It is amazing that Attack on titan is selling very well! |
| Wow, Tokyo Ghoul and Haikyuu are doing great! That makes me happy. |
Snow said: Baby Steps deserves WAY more :| It was released on 16th so it only had two days to score. It'll get more in the next oricon chart. |
Thornister said: You mixed up the quotes. Ah I see. Good to know.Botato said: Baby Steps deserves WAY more :| It was released on 16th so it only had two days to score. It'll get more in the next oricon chart. |
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| New GTO is hitting off well... |
| Sungeki no Kyojin off of the chart already makes me a bit sad to be honest... :c |
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keragamming said: Ok, all the spin off series are included do you feel better now? Now attack on titan will probably sell over 20 million with the help of the spin off series, one piece has no chance for getting #1 spot. What you need to do now is to tell the author that spin off manga will help boost the main series sales, althout it will be made by a different mangaka and it will also sell separately from the main series, but who cares as long as they add in the spin off series Toriko would do good if it has around 20 spin off maybe it would finally sell over 1 million this year. XD Spin off series is the key people. Concession accepted :) Good for Titan, enjoy these last 4 years XD and it needs Oda in the hospital to sell more tch. Stop with you Toriko hate, it sells over 2.5 million a year easily. |
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ichii_1 said: bigivelfhq said: Man, why do you only talk is bullshit instead of doing the math! Do you even know how to do that? Half a year are 6 Months and so 24 weeks(4 weeks each month). To make 97k a volume has to sell in average 4, 042 copies per week. So is still very probable with your assumption. Basically a volume after some time has to decrease to sell around 4k. Lol XD 1 year has 52 weeks so half a year is 26 weeks, do your math please :( Cool, since the latest volume barely reaches 1 K per week after a while so the older ones must be in the dozens per week :( how about reading comprehension. In average every month has 4 weeks. Yep, I missed 2 weeks, is the end of the world! You're the one that doesn't have reading comprehension and memory loss. Look at what you wrote before! "that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O" You wrote 10k, not 1k, you think that you can change what you said like that, are you kidding me? And how in the hell do you know that the latest volume doesn't reach 1k a week? Oricon doesn't even reports that! Last week threshold was 24.5k so tell me how in the hell do you assume that Magi had less than 1k? That is hardcore speculation. With that kind of suppositions I believe that nothing that I say will convince you that is pretty much possible, so is better to end it right here. |
bigivelfhqAug 22, 2014 8:16 AM
keragamming said: ichii_1 said: Lol XD 1 year has 52 weeks so half a year is 26 weeks, do your math please :( Cool, since the latest volume barely reaches 1 K per week after a while so the older ones must be in the dozens per week :( how about reading comprehension. Ok, all the spin off series are included do you feel better now? Now attack on titan will probably sell over 20 million with the help of the spin off series, one piece has no chance for getting #1 spot. What you need to do now is to tell the author that spin off manga will help boost the main series sales, althout it will be made by a different mangaka and it will also sell separately from the main series, but who cares as long as they add in the spin off series Toriko would do good if it has around 20 spin off maybe it would finally sell over 1 million this year. XD Spin off series is the key people. atleast toriko is a quality series, it would sell millions with a good anime |
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| ^ Toriko already sells millions per year :) bigivelfhq said: ichii_1 said: Lol XD 1 year has 52 weeks so half a year is 26 weeks, do your math please :( Cool, since the latest volume barely reaches 1 K per week after a while so the older ones must be in the dozens per week :( how about reading comprehension. In average every month has 4 weeks. Yep, I missed 2 weeks, is the end of the world! You're the one that doesn't have reading comprehension and memory loss. Look at what you wrote before! "that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O" You wrote 10k, not 1k, you think that you can change what you said like that, are you kidding me? And how in the hell do you know that the latest volume doesn't reach 1k a week? Oricon doesn't even reports that! Last week threshold was 24.5k so tell me how in the hell do you assume that Magi had less than 1k? That is hardcore speculation. With that kind of suppositions I believe that nothing that I say will convince you that is pretty much possible, so is better to end it right here. You're the one going on about math then you get that wrong, not my fault. 10 K is after 1 or 2 months, it keeps going down each week so after 3 or 4 months it's 1 K, how about looking my top comment huh? The new volume drops to 1 K or so after 4 months, so what sales do you think the others have? with your math skills it's probably more (it's less btw) |
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aboe said: atleast toriko is a quality series, it would sell millions with a good anime I always find it hilarious, how ignorant you are regarding the benefit of the ''horrible'' Toei anime. The anime is the reason Toriko got popular, it was heavily advertised thanks to it, and it showed, when Toriko got 4 million after the anime debut, in that year. The problem doesn't seem to be with the anime, it's with the manga, despite the heavy advertisement from Jump of Toriko as the next long running manga, it's still haven't been able to live that, and is not consistent in sales, and series like AssClass sell better without an anime. |
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ichii_1 said: ^ Toriko already sells millions per year :) bigivelfhq said: In average every month has 4 weeks. Yep, I missed 2 weeks, is the end of the world! You're the one that doesn't have reading comprehension and memory loss. Look at what you wrote before! "that 10 K is for a just released volume 19 after a month or 2 :O" You wrote 10k, not 1k, you think that you can change what you said like that, are you kidding me? And how in the hell do you know that the latest volume doesn't reach 1k a week? Oricon doesn't even reports that! Last week threshold was 24.5k so tell me how in the hell do you assume that Magi had less than 1k? That is hardcore speculation. With that kind of suppositions I believe that nothing that I say will convince you that is pretty much possible, so is better to end it right here. You're the one going on about math then you get that wrong, not my fault. 10 K is after 1 or 2 months, it keeps going down each week so after 3 or 4 months it's 1 K, how about looking my top comment huh? The new volume drops to 1 K or so after 4 months, so what sales do you think the others have? with your math skills it's probably more (it's less btw) The math was right! 4 weeks times 6 months equals 24. 4 is just the average, there is no months with 5 weeks, but given that each month has 4 weeks and 2 or 3 more days at the end it adds to 2 more weeks. I don't know why this is a problem, more weeks helps my cause, not yours. from where do you got that information about 3 or 4 months its 1K? Show me the source of that information! Because if is just you talking than 1K or 4k is the exactly same thing. The only difference is that with 4K it doesn't include the spin-offs and so you're wrong and 1k it include and you're right. |
bigivelfhqAug 22, 2014 9:28 AM
bigivelfhq said: The math was right! 4 weeks times 6 months equals 24. 4 is just the average, there is no months with 5 weeks, but given that each month has 4 weeks and 2 or 3 more days at the end it adds to 2 more weeks. I don't know why this is a problem, more weeks helps my cause, not yours. from where do you got that information about 3 or 4 months its 1K? Show me the source of that information! Because if is just you talking than 1K or 4k is the exactly same thing. The only difference is that with 4K it doesn't include the spin-offs and so you're wrong and 1k it include and you're right. Just going of volume 19, look at those magi drops per week. From 20 K to off the list at 15 K at least, that's 6 weeks, now 10 more weeks to go (more drops) Can't get list so - speculation time - let's say it gets to 4 K at the end pretty good but that's the new volume, the other ones are even lower with all those drops, those ones are selling 1 or 2 K. |
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| @rajin: There was a LE with a drama CD that sold 36.5k as well as the RE that is listed here. So the actual total for that volume is currently at 107k, not 70k. |
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ichii_1 said: bigivelfhq said: The math was right! 4 weeks times 6 months equals 24. 4 is just the average, there is no months with 5 weeks, but given that each month has 4 weeks and 2 or 3 more days at the end it adds to 2 more weeks. I don't know why this is a problem, more weeks helps my cause, not yours. from where do you got that information about 3 or 4 months its 1K? Show me the source of that information! Because if is just you talking than 1K or 4k is the exactly same thing. The only difference is that with 4K it doesn't include the spin-offs and so you're wrong and 1k it include and you're right. Just going of volume 19, look at those magi drops per week. From 20 K to off the list at 15 K at least, that's 6 weeks, now 10 more weeks to go (more drops) Can't get list so - speculation time - let's say it gets to 4 K at the end pretty good but that's the new volume, the other ones are even lower with all those drops, those ones are selling 1 or 2 K. You say that is certainly Bullshit that the older volumes of Magi were selling around 4K per week, because of the volume 19 that went away of the list, basically selling less than 15k in 6 weeks, and also because you speculate that out of he list it go down until 4k. :facepalm: You don't have any kind of information to arrive at your conclusion, but you stick to it like it was a absolute truth. I'll let you know the daily positions, from the daily Top 500 sales ranking, that the Magi volume 19 and 1 had in those 2 weeks that you showed me: Week 1 -> From day 11 to 17: Volume 19 -> 029 037 038 027 041 024 020 (average position: 32) Volume 01 -> 287 226 295 241 323 203 189 (average position: 252) Week 2 -> From day 18 to 24: Volume 19 -> 038 053 060 050 076 049 038 (average position: 52) Volume 01 -> 213 196 230 383 411 213 161 (average position: 258) Diff in averages Volume 19 decreased 20 positions in Week 2 compared with Week 1. Volume 01 decreased 06 positions in Week 2 compared with Week 1. Noticed how volume 19 had a more harsh decrease in the ranking than volume 1? That happens to all the other volumes and for a long number of weeks/months. You can verify by yourself. Things don't just keep decreasing at the same rate and they a lot of times find a point of stability where they stay for a long period of time. Here the Link to the Top 500 daily sales rank: http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/blog-category-2.html So the rest you can see by yourself! |
bigivelfhqAug 22, 2014 12:15 PM
ichii_1 said: keragamming said: Ok, all the spin off series are included do you feel better now? Now attack on titan will probably sell over 20 million with the help of the spin off series, one piece has no chance for getting #1 spot. What you need to do now is to tell the author that spin off manga will help boost the main series sales, althout it will be made by a different mangaka and it will also sell separately from the main series, but who cares as long as they add in the spin off series Toriko would do good if it has around 20 spin off maybe it would finally sell over 1 million this year. XD Spin off series is the key people. Concession accepted :) Good for Titan, enjoy these last 4 years XD and it needs Oda in the hospital to sell more tch. Stop with you Toriko hate, it sells over 2.5 million a year easily. Idiot can't even tell when someone is using sarcasm. 2.5 million my foot! You will be lucky to see it sell over 1 million this year. Anyways I don't know how you learn in school or in anything, because people are educating you on how the manga sales works but you don't want any of that, if that's how you act in real like then you will not learn anything because you don't want to admit that you're wrong. Please when the final manga sales comes out at the end of the year please don't comment about spin off helping series because you're just going to embarrass yourself. Or maybe you're just a attention whore. |
tsudecimo said: aboe said: atleast toriko is a quality series, it would sell millions with a good anime I always find it hilarious, how ignorant you are regarding the benefit of the ''horrible'' Toei anime. The anime is the reason Toriko got popular, it was heavily advertised thanks to it, and it showed, when Toriko got 4 million after the anime debut, in that year. The problem doesn't seem to be with the anime, it's with the manga, despite the heavy advertisement from Jump of Toriko as the next long running manga, it's still haven't been able to live that, and is not consistent in sales, and series like AssClass sell better without an anime. did you even see the anime? as a big toriko fan, i can say its horse shit, they censor everything, add filler characters in the story, animation is so bad, and they even gave it a filler ending. if they wanted to promote it, they should have given a good adoptation, there is nothing wrong with the manga |
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 Read carefully, 4 K after 4 months (16 weeks), vol 19 is that much down after 2 months now add 2 more and you will get to about 4 K. I'm talking about Shogakukan btw, the other ones match up. keragamming said: Idiot can't even tell when someone is using sarcasm. 2.5 million my foot! You will be lucky to see it sell over 1 million this year. Anyways I don't know how you learn in school or in anything, because people are educating you on how the manga sales works but you don't want any of that, if that's how you act in real like then you will not learn anything because you don't want to admit that you're wrong. Please when the final manga sales comes out at the end of the year please don't comment about spin off helping series because you're just going to embarrass yourself. Or maybe you're just a attention whore. Sarcasm and Internet :O (refer to image above) You should ask your school for a refund, cause you only got more stupid :( http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2013 |
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aboe said: tsudecimo said: I always find it hilarious, how ignorant you are regarding the benefit of the ''horrible'' Toei anime. The anime is the reason Toriko got popular, it was heavily advertised thanks to it, and it showed, when Toriko got 4 million after the anime debut, in that year. The problem doesn't seem to be with the anime, it's with the manga, despite the heavy advertisement from Jump of Toriko as the next long running manga, it's still haven't been able to live that, and is not consistent in sales, and series like AssClass sell better without an anime. did you even see the anime? as a big toriko fan, i can say its horse shit, they censor everything, add filler characters in the story, animation is so bad, and they even gave it a filler ending. if they wanted to promote it, they should have given a good adoptation, there is nothing wrong with the manga That's entirely irrelevant. And it's really typical of you to miss my point, to just rant pointlessly about the anime adaption. Having a better anime in terms of production at all. The advertisement for the manga was present. But it's still currently isn't able to pull big numbers, the last two volumes only getting 300k+ after a month from the release. Facts are, that the anime did it purpose and was a success, in terms of ratings, and a boost for the manga. Believing the manga would be more successful, if it had a better anime in terms of production is completely baseless. |
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| @ichii_1 -_- any respect I had for you is now completely gone, I honestly thought you were trolling but it seems you're dead serious about this. Sigh... That sarcasm was so damn obvious even my pet dog could realize that. You honestly thought I would change my opinion just like that? |
| ^ This is serious business, GTFO > I can't have people disrespecting Toriko and the anime wasn't great but it was good, until the last 7 or so episodes. |
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| An Manga about food hunters with dbz like abilities? sounds kinda stupid :D Saw a fight on youtube and it was really bad. |
tsudecimo said: aboe said: did you even see the anime? as a big toriko fan, i can say its horse shit, they censor everything, add filler characters in the story, animation is so bad, and they even gave it a filler ending. if they wanted to promote it, they should have given a good adoptation, there is nothing wrong with the manga That's entirely irrelevant. And it's really typical of you to miss my point, to just rant pointlessly about the anime adaption. Having a better anime in terms of production at all. The advertisement for the manga was present. But it's still currently isn't able to pull big numbers, the last two volumes only getting 300k+ after a month from the release. Facts are, that the anime did it purpose and was a success, in terms of ratings, and a boost for the manga. Believing the manga would be more successful, if it had a better anime in terms of production is completely baseless. they aimed it at childeren with the age of 6 in japan, the older fanbase hated the anime. if the anime was like the 2009 ova, the sales would skyrocket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-l-g5_AyIY |
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phreeak said: An Manga about food hunters with dbz like abilities? sounds kinda stupid :D Saw a fight on youtube and it was really bad. whats stupid about it? |
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aboe said: tsudecimo said: That's entirely irrelevant. And it's really typical of you to miss my point, to just rant pointlessly about the anime adaption. Having a better anime in terms of production at all. The advertisement for the manga was present. But it's still currently isn't able to pull big numbers, the last two volumes only getting 300k+ after a month from the release. Facts are, that the anime did it purpose and was a success, in terms of ratings, and a boost for the manga. Believing the manga would be more successful, if it had a better anime in terms of production is completely baseless. they aimed it at childeren with the age of 6 in japan, the older fanbase hated the anime. if the anime was like the 2009 ova, the sales would skyrocket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-l-g5_AyIY You are an extremely delusional and ignorant fan. |
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