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Apr 14, 2014 3:19 PM
#51
Zentasu said: I cant even explain the statisfaction when i saw Joffrey's dying face. Loved the second episode! his face was perfect... you could see the life draining out of him in a really sick way! <3 |
Apr 14, 2014 3:24 PM
#52
zealot7 said: I'm a bit on the fence between Jaime and Tyrion in all honesty. Tyrion has been awesome, witty and one of the only few decent people in the series since the start. Jaime started off as an asshole, but he has been redeemed so much. The way I see Jaime now is that he's a good guy at heart, but he'd do some heartless stuff if it's for his family (e.g. pushing Bran off the tower to save Cersei, fighting Ned's men for Tyrion, stabbing the Mad King in his back to save his father, etc).The second episode was great, but I don't share you hatred for Joffrey. You all have to admit that the Lannisters are the most interesting great house in Westeros and without them the story wouldn't be that good. While Thyrion is fairly popular with the fans, I believe Jaime is the most interesting protagonist both in the books and in the series. He has so many layers and great character development. I will not spoil things, but Jaime little by little becomes a noble hero, as the story progresses. |
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Apr 14, 2014 3:24 PM
#53
daintybiscuit said: Zentasu said: I cant even explain the statisfaction when i saw Joffrey's dying face. Loved the second episode! his face was perfect... you could see the life draining out of him in a really sick way! <3 I even thought he was turning into zombie ! |
Apr 14, 2014 3:30 PM
#54
zealot7 said: Jaime doesn't get that interesting or that good until book 4 (that shitty book was saved by Jaime actually. His last line in the book was oh so satisfying). Of course, the build up that led to that was good as well.The second episode was great, but I don't share you hatred for Joffrey. You all have to admit that the Lannisters are the most interesting great house in Westeros and without them the story wouldn't be that good. While Thyrion is fairly popular with the fans, I believe Jaime is the most interesting protagonist both in the books and in the series. He has so many layers and great character development. I will not spoil things, but Jaime little by little becomes a noble hero, as the story progresses. |
Apr 14, 2014 3:53 PM
#55
I felt like Cersei was totally lacking in this episode, or at least her portrayal was. Doesn't she LOVE her children, despite what Joffrey was? And man if that wasn't the first time Jaime cared for his kid :P The makeup for Joffrey was amazing. I've heard there's no super major events like ned stark's death, or the red or purple weddings probably for this season, but the aftermath of this will be interesting I think. Tyrion is fucked. |
Apr 14, 2014 4:25 PM
#56
DerpHole said: Tyrion is best Lannister. Arya is best Stark. That is all. Yes, agreed. Tyrion has been the only Lannister people can relate with and isn't a total psychopath. Jaime is a lot better now, but I haven't forgotten his douchyness in the first two seasons. As for Arya she started as an annoying brat in season 1, after that every single season she has developed quite nicely. Unfortunately, because this IS GoT I have to constantly wonder how long will they actually last before they're killed off as well... Damn you George RR Martin. Can't wait for next week....and I LOVE the fact that now this series has become a "Who dunnit". |
Apr 14, 2014 4:49 PM
#57
who told Sansa it was best to leave now while Joffrey was tanking? i can't remember! |
Apr 14, 2014 4:53 PM
#58
daintybiscuit said: who told Sansa it was best to leave now while Joffrey was tanking? i can't remember! The guy who used to be a knight but was turned into a "fool" by King Joffrey. During the wedding he was juggling and then Joffrey told the crowd to throw food at him. Oh, and he also gave that necklace to Sansa... |
Apr 14, 2014 7:24 PM
#59
Minagatachi said: zealot7 said: I'm a bit on the fence between Jaime and Tyrion in all honesty. Tyrion has been awesome, witty and one of the only few decent people in the series since the start. Jaime started off as an asshole, but he has been redeemed so much. The way I see Jaime now is that he's a good guy at heart, but he'd do some heartless stuff if it's for his family (e.g. pushing Bran off the tower to save Cersei, fighting Ned's men for Tyrion, stabbing the Mad King in his back to save his father, etc).The second episode was great, but I don't share you hatred for Joffrey. You all have to admit that the Lannisters are the most interesting great house in Westeros and without them the story wouldn't be that good. While Thyrion is fairly popular with the fans, I believe Jaime is the most interesting protagonist both in the books and in the series. He has so many layers and great character development. I will not spoil things, but Jaime little by little becomes a noble hero, as the story progresses. Jamie was on my to-die-a-horrible-death list, but after what he suffered he's now off it (same with Theon). I'm indifferent to him at the moment. I think he still needs to suffer a little more for me to be satisfied with his redemption (that totally makes me sound sadistic). Speaking of Theon, I wish the torture he suffered will also be inflicted on Cersei a 100 times over. I hate that b****. |
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Apr 14, 2014 7:38 PM
#60
Okay, so my first thought was that the Tyrell's did it, but Lady Marjorie had such a convincing "shocked and horrified" expression that I'm inclined to believe she didn't see it coming. But perhaps she's just that good at playing along. The cup Tyrion grabbed came from Granny Tyrell's table so it must have been them. If not them then it was the Martell's. EDIT: Marjorie didn't get a son from Joffrey, meaning she has no claim to the throne. So perhaps the Tyrells didn't do it. Also, side question, where has Lord Baelish been? I forget what happened to him last season. |
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Apr 14, 2014 8:05 PM
#61
RedRoseFring said: Jamie was on my to-die-a-horrible-death list, but after what he suffered he's now off it (same with Theon). I'm indifferent to him at the moment. I think he still needs to suffer a little more for me to be satisfied with his redemption (that totally makes me sound sadistic). Speaking of Theon, I wish the torture he suffered will also be inflicted on Cersei a 100 times over. I hate that b****. I think Jaime is slowly unraveling and becoming a more noble person. I liked seeing him train with Bronn. I wonder if he'll actually become good with his left hand. Love it :] |
Apr 14, 2014 8:10 PM
#62
i do truly like Tyrion Joffrey has SHIT allover him for... most the series? and the wedding ceremony junk, well, he shat allover Tyrion AND Sansa BUT as Tyrion still holds that cup, he he sincerely looks shocked and confounded at what is happening to Joffrey. At least that was my interpretation for the most part. he is shocked, not gleeful. Cersei takes every pleasure in anyone's pain, all the time. my point? even as the evil Joffrey dies a horrible death he takes no pleasure in it. i'm not the biggest expert on this show or books, so that might sound silly, but thats my very simple interpretation. Tyrion wishes no bad will to anyone. |
Apr 14, 2014 8:20 PM
#63
daintybiscuit said: i do truly like Tyrion Joffrey has SHIT allover him for... most the series? and the wedding ceremony junk, well, he shat allover Tyrion AND Sansa BUT as Tyrion still holds that cup, he he sincerely looks shocked and confounded at what is happening to Joffrey. At least that was my interpretation for the most part. he is shocked, not gleeful. Cersei takes every pleasure in anyone's pain, all the time. my point? even as the evil Joffrey dies a horrible death he takes no pleasure in it. i'm not the biggest expert on this show or books, so that might sound silly, but thats my very simple interpretation. Tyrion wishes no bad will to anyone. Totally agree. Heck, even though it hurt Tyrion to send away Shae, he still did it to protect her. Minagatachi said: And Sansa has gone on the run with Joffrey's Fool? Hoping she can get out of King's Landing and to a better place. Though I'm wondering if Margery would let any harm come to Sansa now that she's queen? Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? |
Apr 14, 2014 8:33 PM
#64
is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way |
Apr 14, 2014 9:13 PM
#65
daintybiscuit said: is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way Kalisto said: This is exactly what I'm wondering. I assumed she was because Cersei was still queen after Robert's death, but then again Cersei had children when Margaery didn't.Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? |
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Apr 14, 2014 9:18 PM
#66
Minagatachi said: If you want the spoiler (not really a huge one)daintybiscuit said: is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way Kalisto said: This is exactly what I'm wondering. I assumed she was because Cersei was still queen after Robert's death, but then again Cersei had children when Margaery didn't.Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? they'll marry Majorie to Tommen, you figure out the rest |
Apr 14, 2014 9:27 PM
#67
Vudis said: If you want the spoiler (not really a huge one) they'll marry Majorie to Tommen, you figure out the rest Oh dear...he seems so young. What is he, like 12? |
Apr 14, 2014 10:00 PM
#68
Vudis said: Minagatachi said: If you want the spoiler (not really a huge one)daintybiscuit said: is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way Kalisto said: This is exactly what I'm wondering. I assumed she was because Cersei was still queen after Robert's death, but then again Cersei had children when Margaery didn't.Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? they'll marry Majorie to Tommen, you figure out the rest holy fuck i never thought of that |
Apr 15, 2014 12:35 AM
#69
That whole wedding was so tense! Loved it. I'm happy that Joffy is finally off the table. Was getting tired of his douchiness anyway. I actually like Ramsay waay more (as far as assholes go anyway). He is smart, witty and has some pretty funny quotes / moments. Joffy was just a sadistic brat who happened to get lucky. Dat Olenna x Tywin moment though. We need more of that. Those 2 are perfect together! |
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Apr 15, 2014 3:39 AM
#70
Minagatachi said: The rules go that if the king has no sons his next brother comes after him. (remember the whole thing that started the war with Stannis and Renly claiming/knowing Robert had no sons)daintybiscuit said: is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way Kalisto said: This is exactly what I'm wondering. I assumed she was because Cersei was still queen after Robert's death, but then again Cersei had children when Margaery didn't.Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? |
Apr 15, 2014 5:13 AM
#71
Candor said: Oh that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.Minagatachi said: The rules go that if the king has no sons his next brother comes after him. (remember the whole thing that started the war with Stannis and Renly claiming/knowing Robert had no sons)daintybiscuit said: is Marjorie now Queen Regent? i have a loose sense of the term tbh even if she is, Cersei will buck her all of the way Kalisto said: This is exactly what I'm wondering. I assumed she was because Cersei was still queen after Robert's death, but then again Cersei had children when Margaery didn't.Does Marjorie get to stay Queen now that Joffrey is dead? |
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Apr 15, 2014 11:20 AM
#73
Kalisto said: Vudis said: If you want the spoiler (not really a huge one) they'll marry Majorie to Tommen, you figure out the rest Oh dear...he seems so young. What is he, like 12? This will be amazing to see. Now that Joffrey got what was coming to him, Cersei is next and Marjorie is heavily involved with it from what I remember. |
Apr 15, 2014 12:16 PM
#74
YES! YES! JOFFERY IS FINALLY FUCKING DEAD! I have not wanted a character to die as much as him, in a long time. Sadly Tyrion will get the blame, though its most likely the Martels were the ones who did the deed. Someone really needs to kill Cersi as well, the bitch thinks shes so clever. |
Apr 15, 2014 1:52 PM
#75
That was one awkward fucking wedding. I have to give credit to Margaery though for trying several times to control that demented fuck Joffrey. Now that the Usurper Joffrey Baratheon is Dead. Only two of the original five Kings are left. Stannis Baratheon and Balon Greyjoy. |
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Apr 15, 2014 3:34 PM
#77
Zatoichi said: And they're not really that much of a threat anymore. Stannis lost most of his military might during the battle at Blackwater Bay, and I'm pretty sure he's more focused on dealing with the White Walkers before he cares about the Iron Throne. Meanwhile Balon is being kept in check by the Bolton's; safe to say that the Lannisters are still the ones in utmost power.That was one awkward fucking wedding. I have to give credit to Margaery though for trying several times to control that demented fuck Joffrey. Now that the Usurper Joffrey Baratheon is Dead. Only two of the original five Kings are left. Stannis Baratheon and Balon Greyjoy. |
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Apr 15, 2014 6:11 PM
#78
Pooh-pooh said: Cersei's crazy She's always been crazy in my opinion. Detestable woman but she makes for a good love/hate type of character. |
Apr 15, 2014 6:38 PM
#79
Ahhh, having Joffrey die so early in the season, I didn't expect that, but I loved it. Cersei's crazy, but then again, who wouldn't be in such environment... |
Apr 15, 2014 6:59 PM
#80
Aylaine said: Pooh-pooh said: Cersei's crazy She's always been crazy in my opinion. Detestable woman but she makes for a good love/hate type of character. Love her for her body hate her for her cunt-ness |
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Apr 15, 2014 8:16 PM
#81
DerpHole said: Her body could turn Loras straight.Aylaine said: Pooh-pooh said: Cersei's crazy She's always been crazy in my opinion. Detestable woman but she makes for a good love/hate type of character. Love her for her body hate her for her cunt-ness |
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Apr 15, 2014 8:24 PM
#82
I'm having a chuckle at these twitter comments. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/game-thrones-read-most-hilarious-3415703 |
Apr 15, 2014 8:43 PM
#83
i really think that IF Martin wrote this close to the tv narrative, that Joffrey served his purpose, narrative wise. He was no longer necessary for the narrative to move on. |
Apr 15, 2014 8:51 PM
#84
Kirie_Himuro said: Hahaha, "Did George R. R. Martin get left at the altar or something?"I'm having a chuckle at these twitter comments. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/game-thrones-read-most-hilarious-3415703 |
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Apr 15, 2014 9:56 PM
#85
So who is going to take Joffrey's place as the most-hated character of the show? |
Apr 15, 2014 10:09 PM
#86
^For me it's Cersei lol, like mother like daughter son.. Oh, and Lord Bolton and his bastard |
Apr 16, 2014 12:13 AM
#87
Pooh-pooh said: ^For me it's Cersei lol, like mother like daughter son.. Oh, and Lord Bolton and his bastard Cersei was always the most hated character for me. Joffrey bearly came close, but now Ramsey seems to be feeling that role since Theon seems to have suffered enough (hopefully Cersei will suffer more than he ever did!) |
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Apr 16, 2014 12:31 AM
#88
The one thing you have to admit about Cersei though is she loves her children no matter what and will do her best to protect them (even though with Joffrey, well yeah), that at least I think is an admirable trait if you consider the context of the way this shows/books world is. Also, I find it funny how Jack Gleeson from what other actors say is the complete opposite outside the show, which just goes to show how much of a great actor he is. |
Apr 16, 2014 1:16 AM
#89
I just re-watched the episode and noticed that a plate of sausages was shown right after Theon's scene... |
Apr 16, 2014 1:22 AM
#90
The best comment: "Still considered a dull affair (by Dothraki standards)." |
Apr 16, 2014 1:42 AM
#91
Apr 16, 2014 6:02 AM
#92
Minagatachi said: Someone pays attention. Yes Stannis has no more power at all atm, he's just thinking what to do now. And I wonder what he's going to do. hmm.Zatoichi said: And they're not really that much of a threat anymore. Stannis lost most of his military might during the battle at Blackwater Bay, and I'm pretty sure he's more focused on dealing with the White Walkers before he cares about the Iron Throne. Meanwhile Balon is being kept in check by the Bolton's; safe to say that the Lannisters are still the ones in utmost power.That was one awkward fucking wedding. I have to give credit to Margaery though for trying several times to control that demented fuck Joffrey. Now that the Usurper Joffrey Baratheon is Dead. Only two of the original five Kings are left. Stannis Baratheon and Balon Greyjoy. |
Apr 16, 2014 6:07 AM
#93
If Tyrion Lannister gets the sword for this i will abandon the show for ever. Enough killing good people, off with that king. |
Apr 16, 2014 6:48 AM
#94
elevenletters said: I just re-watched the episode and noticed that a plate of sausages was shown right after Theon's scene... So I'm not the only one who picked that up. Damn that was nasty, haha. |
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Apr 16, 2014 9:59 AM
#95
Gone, but not forgotten. What a loss for humanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWSjckKmF5M |
Apr 16, 2014 4:23 PM
#96
What I'm waiting to see is whether the next king will be good or bad. In the books apparently Robert used to beat Joffrey to try and make a man out of him, but he didn't lay a hand against any of his other children. From my understanding Joffrey's younger brother is next in line correct? If Joffrey became a sociopath because of how he was treated growing up, I wonder if his little brother will be a good king since he was never beaten or mistreated? |
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Apr 16, 2014 5:44 PM
#97
Minagatachi said: What I'm waiting to see is whether the next king will be good or bad. In the books apparently Robert used to beat Joffrey to try and make a man out of him, but he didn't lay a hand against any of his other children. From my understanding Joffrey's younger brother is next in line correct? If Joffrey became a sociopath because of how he was treated growing up, I wonder if his little brother will be a good king since he was never beaten or mistreated? I sure hope so! He would have to be a strong character to escape Cersei's corruption, though. |
Apr 16, 2014 11:04 PM
#98
Kalisto said: Cersei definitely. Lannisters in general deserve a lot of hate, save for 2 of them. Used to be 1, but my view of Jaime has changed since he was captured by the Starks.So who is going to take Joffrey's place as the most-hated character of the show? |
Apr 17, 2014 3:22 AM
#99
I only dislike Cersei. Tywin, Jaime and Tyrion make up 3 slots of my top 5 characters of the show. The Lannisters sure are the best family now. ^^ But Tywin is probably disliked by a lot of people. Kinda understandable, but I do love those witty old badasses. I don't really have a most hated character anymore, like on the level of Joffrey. Sure, they want you to hate the Bolton bunch now, but Ramsay is simply too funny to hate, and those other 2 guys are kinda badass. I do dislike Lysa and Balon, but we haven't seen much of them lately anyway. |
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