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Jun 5, 2019 6:59 PM
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This episode was painful, it was so frustrating, I nearly teared up. So, where to start? Nana is so damn stressed, she's in so much pain, she doesn't remember what happened after the glass cup dropped, so, some sort of split personality self-defense mechanism that developed solely from the stress caused by this whole pregnancy conflict? Anyway, it got me speechless and nervous, I'm hoping it doesn't turn out too bad.. I felt bad for Shin, seems like for the first time in his life he was actually developing feelings for someone, and then Reira straight up killed all of it, awh. Well, we got to know that Reira loves Takumi, which is really unfortunate. Impactful episode, had me nearly tearing up.
Sep 25, 2019 12:49 PM

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and here I thought Takumi would be a better man than I thought but he is still scum. Nana's life with him will be living hell.
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you!
Oct 20, 2019 10:39 AM

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The glass scene was sad af!
May 29, 2020 11:59 AM

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They are moving quite fast with the (worst decision) marriage stuff, I feel bad for nobu. I'm convinced now Takumi is quite the terrible dude, being so pushy with what he wants.

I already expected Layla to love Takumi and Yasu to be just someone who comforts her, but I didn't expected Shin to actually love her too...

Oh boy, the love web has become quite complex with almost all BLAST and Trapnest people liking a different person..... I'm glad misato isn't in this mess

Jun 3, 2020 6:28 AM

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Each episode feels like a punch to the gut.
Jun 5, 2020 8:49 AM

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Hachiko is such a clown I cant take it
Jul 6, 2020 10:13 AM

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what's angering me the most is why hachi is staying so silent about everything. takumi is the one who revealed her pregnancy over the phone - now he's the one telling nana about hachi moving out and their marriage :/ also, takumi forcing himself on a pregnant woman is actually disgusting what a dick lol

i feel bad for shin and i wonder what else is behind reira and yasu's relationship. when the glasses rolled over i was so close to crying.

poor nobu, he acts normal even after all this and comforts nana after everything rude she's said. hope nana + nobu will be ok ):
Jul 23, 2020 1:15 PM

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It's weird that Takumi is so serious about his image , career , planning everything so many years ahead, but he forgets to use fcking condom , seriously?Seems too out of character tbh.

And Layla ... doesn't seem to actually love Shin , but Shin seems to have a crush on her for real...

Looks like it's gone full drama mode.Everyone has problems in relationships.
I hate everyone equally
Nov 23, 2020 4:17 PM
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Since no one said it i'll say it. SHIN GOT AN ACOUSTIC
Dec 23, 2020 1:23 PM
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Naoki said that Hachi is tactful but it's actually Takumi who's calculating his moves and making everyone accept and follow his plan whether they like it or not. Also, Takumi is disgusting for forcing himself on Hachi, just when you might think he's a decent person.
Jan 2, 2021 4:01 PM
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Im so done with Hachiko atp. You cannot help someone that doesn’t wanna help themselves and atp she is just toxic and emotionally taxing to Nana. I sympathize with her in some ways but people like that, who made every sungle mistake she couldve possible made, made every wrong choice, with 0 backbone and no respect for themselves allowing themselves to be so easily manipulated.. you get whats coming for you. It is sad. Now she will just have to live an unhappy life until she realizes how unhappy she is and how huge mistakes shes made.. serves her right? I guess. I wish we had a better main character. I do appreciate how realistic she is, it is definitely true that girls like her exist and im happy if it taught girls not to be like her years ago growing up watching this show, but man who wants to watch this?
Jan 25, 2021 9:25 AM
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Raines said:

Man I got so pissed off when Hachi agreed to go to bed with Takumi while Nana was in the living room, what the fuck was that all about, even though she tried to resist a bit she should have just called for Nana or tell Takumi to off himself at that point.
I hate Nana a lot and she is really stupid, but how can you blame her for being raped?



This episode was really hard to watch for me. I don't know what is going to happen next but I'm literally going to hate every single episode if Takumi is on it, help. And please, can Nana learn to communicate with her friends???????
Apr 28, 2021 10:13 AM
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i love nana so much i know i say this after every episode but god i wish i could just give them both a big hug
juno is so smart, she completely right
SHE'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO THROUGH WITH IT ??? WOAH i wasnt expecting that
MARRIGE ???? WHY ARE WE MOVING SO FASTTASQOEFINCUIVOWSV
Jun 10, 2021 6:46 PM

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Ok Takumi was already trash and not one episode later he sexually assaults hachi.... please someone recognize that he is an emotionally manipulative and abusive person and save hachi 😭
Oct 22, 2021 2:20 PM

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damn this is fucked up. got me sad af. nana is pretty good at pulling emotional strings (at least for me in this arc)
Aug 13, 2022 12:02 AM
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This is so fucked. And the cherry on top of this episode is the people blaming Hachi for being raped 🥴. Takumi swooped in like a vulture and manipulated the situation to his benefit when he saw how emotionally vulnerable Hachi was. Unfortunately, Nana and Nobu also failed to step up and be there for her on that critical night, and after Junko basically tells her to go with Takumi for the good of the baby (after correctly identifying him as manipulative to boot), ofc she resigns herself to the situation and follows Takumi like a little dog. He was the only one out of the three (him, Nana, and Nobu) who seemed like someone she could rely on. Unfortunately he’s also possessive and controlling. Hachi is naive, a hopeless romantic, and hasn’t developed a strong sense of self and purpose but was on the path of trying to (shes in her early fucking twenties!!! Of course she’ll make stupid mistakes and do dumb things and it’s not easy to change yourself or break the cycle of bad habits as many animes like to depict). And she had just gotten cheated on. She is insecure and emotionally vulnerable when she began her relationship with Takumi, and he can absolutely sense that and recognize her as someone he can easily control. Hell the only reason he pursued her was because of his ego pissing contest with Nobu. He’ll whisper sweet nothings to her (‘I want you to be mine’) when they’re fucking, then just doesn’t answer her emails. Only calls her to make sure the person staying over wasnt a man. Constant push and pull. (Anyone who wonders why Hachi found it so hard to break it off with him has never had the pleasure of knowing and being in a relationship with someone like this, and I hope they never will). Until she tells him to piss off and never call her again and he realizes she’s free from his grasp thanks to Nobu. But nooo he can’t stand that. He forces his way into her home, refuses to respect her boundaries, tells Nana and Nobu about her pregnancy, makes them think she was cheating on Nobu with him. Knowing she’s broke he offers to take care of the child (which under ordinary circumstances is a decent thing to do, the bare minimum really) but he doesn’t stop there. Having a child together wasn’t enough, now he also wants her to be legally tied to him. 😐 What was the episode where Nana talks about the meaning of the word Trapnest and says the person who came up with that name must have been possessive af and the camera rests on Takumi’s face on the Trapnest poster? Yeah.

I cant say I agree with her decision to keep the baby, but to her credit she doesn’t place pressure on Nobu to raise the child and give up on his dreams. But it’s devastating that she’s essentially giving up her happiness for the good of the baby. Although I dont know how happy the child can be in such a dysfunctional home with a father like Takumi.

I swear, i do myself no good reading these MAL threads because this anime is so good at exposing people’s misogyny and general lack of empathy.
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Sep 5, 2022 10:15 AM

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I feel for Nana's abandonment issues and it gives a new light to how Nobu described how they became friends, she's also unable to talk to Hachi despite having her right there sitting in front of her but wants to give her unconditional support just like Yasu does with her but it adds to her frustation because Hachi is not in a right place to just tell her everything especially when Takumi is being his usual possessive next to her, ugh, it doesn't help Hachi that her dream was being a mother and a housewife so she's holding onto this "realistic" version of her dream.

Man, I didn't trusted Takumi but he's truly the worst without any doubt fuck this rapist.
Sep 29, 2022 4:00 PM

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When this anime was airing people barely talked about emotional abuse, so I guess it’s not easy for them to recognize Nanas past abusive relationships (I’m talking about the married guy) and her inability to get out of bad relationships.
Hachi is in for some pretty rough treatment if she stays with Takumi.
Both Nanas need serious counseling.
Everyone is on a downward spiral into a blackhole of suffering.
Both Nanas being torn apart, poor Nobu just trying to hang in there, Reira finding out about Takumi getting married, her asking Shin for Yasus number instead of going to him, Yasu will get sucked in too. And Ren is just there I guess…
Nov 12, 2022 4:42 PM
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TAKUMI N HACHI ARE GOING TO GET MARRIED????????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN THIS I REFUSE oh god why is it so hard to tolerate takumi this mf
Dec 28, 2022 2:12 AM
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PAIN I CAN'T WHY GOD WHY HACHI AND NANI WERE SOULMATES AND FUCKING TAKUMI FORCES HIMSELF ON HER THIS IS BULLSHIT AND NOW NANA LOST HACHI AND THOUGHT THAT THE BOTH OF THEM SHOULD GO DOWN TOGETHER AND THEY ARE SO FUCKING BEAUTIFUL TOGETHER WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Jan 11, 2023 2:40 PM

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Wow this episode is a masterpiece. The strawberry glass cups scene was so emotionally draining.
Jan 26, 2023 1:51 PM
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i'm depressed i...
Feb 17, 2023 5:03 PM
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I’m crying sm 😭😭😭
Feb 24, 2023 3:53 PM
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I cried my eyes out.
Feb 24, 2023 4:00 PM
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I cried my eyes out the entire episode.
Mar 3, 2023 3:35 AM
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So, uh, Takumi raped Hachi, huh? She said no like 5 times and he just flipped her over and told her she needed to make him happy. Not even sure what to say about it other than it's fucked up. I was so hoping that Nana would walk in and plant her boot on his face. I hope they address it at some point.

I feel pretty bad for Nobu but understand where Hachi is coming from. Nobu turned down a hotel inheritance for music so I imagine he absolutely has the means to take care of a baby if it comes down to it, just not as a musician. He may try at first to make the music thing work in tandem with raising a baby, but it probably wouldn't, and he's a good guy who would inevitably sacrifice it. Hachi knows that, too, and the choice to marry Tamuki has been made with Nobu and the baby's well-being in mind.

That's not to say I agree with her decision; Nobu should be able to make that choice for himself. It''s the first selfless thing she's done for a romantic partner in the series, though, and I think she really loves him, so I feel cautiously hopeful about that. Like Nana said, everything is happening so fast. Lots of big decisions being made in haste and in a whirlwind of emotion.

Ugh, okay, onto the next episode :c
Mar 5, 2023 9:52 PM

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Not the strawberry glasses!! :'( They were truly emblematic of the Nana's friendship... the first thing they bought together and now they're broken as the two are feeling immense strain.

Apr 8, 2023 8:52 PM

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this episode though... damn. the scenes with the strawberry glass had me in pain. was not ready for the series of episodes laced with angst but i have to say that it's wonderfully made.
May 6, 2023 5:20 PM

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From the start, I always thought Hachi was "hopeless" with men, and it was really funny.

She continues to be hopeless, but it's not funny anymore.
May 16, 2023 7:19 PM
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simplesmente a merda mais insana da história

o ep é bom pra caralho mas é FÁCILMENTE o maior potencializador da misoginia em formato de vídeo que já existiu

hachiko eu lhe perdoo mas puta que pariu que merda é essa
Jun 16, 2023 11:25 AM
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Might catch some flak for this but after standing back and taking a breather and take everything in after this episode, I find myself actually feeling lowkey happy for Shoji, for now at least and as of the last time we saw him. He seemed to have a quiet, loving relationship with Sachiko and away from all this hot mess
Sep 19, 2023 9:48 AM

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takumi pretty much graped hachi D:
THE STRAWBERRY GLASSES ;(((
Oct 19, 2023 7:30 PM
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Hachiko disgusts me so much now even though I know it's not her fault this whole thing, I just can't deal with such irresponsible people like her and it's a shame because I really loved her 3.8/5
Feb 20, 2024 12:55 PM
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it not suppose to happen
Mar 10, 2024 12:58 PM

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It's heartbreaking to see that Nana and Nana care for eachother so much they're afraid to tell the other their hopes and dreams. I wish Hachi had opened up to Nana sooner, and in turn, Nana had stayed around Hachi more and fostered that friendship she wanted so badly. I wonder if they had more time together in the manga? I'll have to read it now.

The strawberry glasses. :(
Apr 25, 2024 2:12 PM
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oh my god... no....
May 13, 2024 1:35 PM
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i got sad midthru the eisode, so only 4 for that
Jun 29, 2024 9:29 PM
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AT THIS POINT THIS SHIT IS JUST STRAIGHT UP NTR I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE
FUCK YOU KOMATSU I HATE YOU, YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID
FUCK YOU OSAKI
FUCK EVERYONE IN THIS SHOW
I HATE YOU ALL
FUCK YOU AI YAZAWA
Nov 27, 2024 5:01 AM
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I need Takumi KILLED ASAP
Jan 29, 3:31 AM

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The symbolism AAAAAAH.
Takumi needs to DIE!!!
Feb 9, 9:16 PM
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Takumi telling Hachi that her job is to please him was super disturbing. All I can think about is how someone needs to save Hachi!!!! Save her!!!!
Mar 1, 1:18 PM

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this show got me crying over strawberry cups

Mar 16, 4:03 PM
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What are people doing in this series 😭
I don't think that any of them has ever heard of clear communication. Or therapy... 😭
I know I'm almost 20 years late to this discussion, but still... Make it make sense, author, plss
Apr 12, 10:59 AM

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I feel like everyone is really letting Hachi down :( I get that it's very dramatic that she's pregnant by someone else but damn... her only support is a guy that forces her into having sex ?? That's awful.
May 16, 6:51 AM
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this just reinforces my hate for takumi he only thinks of himself and his image.

ugh i wish for nana and hachi to be reunited again :(
Jul 21, 9:17 PM
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Ok so Takumi is not only a manipulative POS but also a rapist... I mean it's not exactly surprising but like... why is every other character in this show like a terrible person. Junko is also kind of a terrible friend at this point why is she always telling Nana some bullshit. She was very reasonable in the early parts of the series but after a certain point it almost feels like she hates Nana 😭 like girl.. why are you even friends with her then.
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