Tomodachi Game Episode 6 Discussion

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Synchrohayba said:
Art was pretty inconsistent in this one , but I really loved the added scenes , I can't wait for the next arc , one of my favs

Yeah that was a new low for sure

ROMARIOkkkk said:
But if I was Yuuichi in that situation I would basically do the same Yuuichi did in the last strategy but only asking them to wrote more cards. I'd say "Let's everyone write three cards and put our names in it, in the first you write (I was the one who applied...) in the second one you write (I wrote Kokorogi's secret in the 4th period) in the third card (I was the one who wrote "insert name here" secret). In that way, not only the traitor (Tenji) but also those who gave him their name tags and betrayed him would be exposed. And Yuuichi with their nametag could look at it and double their debt.
But of course, that's juat my train of thought...

Looks like you've already forgotten that only 4 cards get in a voting and gods (viewers) won't necessarily vote for cards from different participants (actually 5 I forgot the number of participants)

Chipp12May 10, 2022 8:47 PM

May 10, 2022 8:10 PM

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Lol Tenji’s confession was a surprise. I don’t think it’s true since he has some ulterior motive for advancing with Yuichi, but I hope it is. That’d throw in a whole different angle into things. The reveal of Yuichi’s 3 traps was very corny with Tenji on the ground asking 50 million questions, but whatever. It’s on to the next game.

May 10, 2022 8:21 PM

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Chipp12 said:

Synchrohayba said:
Art was pretty inconsistent in this one , but I really loved the added scenes , I can't wait for the next arc , one of my favs

Yeah that was a new low for sure

ROMARIOkkkk said:
But if I was Yuuichi in that situation I would basically do the same Yuuichi did in the last strategy but only asking them to wrote more cards. I'd say "Let's everyone write three cards and put our names in it, in the first you write (I was the one who applied...) in the second one you write (I wrote Kokorogi's secret in the 4th period) in the third card (I was the one who wrote "insert name here" secret). In that way, not only the traitor (Tenji) but also those who gave him their name tags and betrayed him would be exposed. And Yuuichi with their nametag could look at it and double their debt.
But of course, that's juat my train of thought...

Looks like you've already forgotten that only 4 cards get in a voting and gods (viewers) won't necessarily vote for cards from different participants.

Sorry, i deleted my quote by accident.

First: No, you can right as many cards as you want, that's in the rules.

Second: I don't know what the gods voting has to do with what I said. When I talked about Yuuichi's last strategy, i was referring to him asking everyone to write "I applied to play the Tomodachi". In this case, the management would definitely know who applied to play, therefore the gods would not need to make the voting.
You also deleted your quote to my reply so i'll also answer that. Tenji's and Yuuichi's case (where they had to prove they were lying) has nothing to do with this (again).
Let's suppose someone wrote "Shiho exposed Kokorogi's secret at the 4th period". In this case (just as in Yuuichi's last plan) the management would already know whether this was a lie or not. So if everyone write the same thing but replacing with their own names, the one who DID write Kokorogi's secret would be revealed, therefore he would not be penalized by lying. The management has the duty to make the game fair, so it would be unfair if they just ignored their own rules by saying "Whatever, all of you are going to walk some places ahead because you didn't prove you didn't write Kokorogi's secret" when it's obvious only one person could have wrote it.

May 10, 2022 8:24 PM

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Now I feel bad for people who dropped this show too early

May 10, 2022 8:43 PM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:
Sorry, i deleted my quote by accident.

First: No, you can right as many cards as you want, that's in the rules.

Second: I don't know what the gods voting has to do with what I said. When I talked about Yuuichi's last strategy, i was referring to him asking everyone to write "I applied to play the Tomodachi". In this case, the management would definitely know who applied to play, therefore the gods would not need to make the voting.
You also deleted your quote to my reply so i'll also answer that. Tenji's and Yuuichi's case (where they had to prove they were lying) has nothing to do with this (again).
Let's suppose someone wrote "Shiho exposed Kokorogi's secret at the 4th period". In this case (just as in Yuuichi's last plan) the management would already know whether this was a lie or not. So if everyone write the same thing but replacing with their own names, the one who DID write Kokorogi's secret would be revealed, therefore he would not be penalized by lying. The management has the duty to make the game fair, so it would be unfair if they just ignored their own rules by saying "Whatever, all of you are going to walk some places ahead because you didn't prove you didn't write Kokorogi's secret" when it's obvious only one person could have wrote it.

You was talking about a strategy where everybody puts in 3 cards resulting 15 cards in total (if traitor also agreed to go with it). They're not going to verify every single card there. Only the top 5 voted by gods. That's my point.

May 10, 2022 8:52 PM

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Okay, the blackmail thing was a little sus. I don't think that was a guaranteed method for finding the traitor, but if I play it out there's a decent chance the blackmail works out. That didn't sit that well for me, but it wasn't the worst. Had to stop and pause a few times just to think things over... then my jaw dropped... and then it dropped further and then it went through the floor. Going to have trouble removing my jaw from the floor now.

Sometimes, a show does all these jaw dropping things and it turns out it's a big ole dumpster fire, but sometimes it turns out they know what their doing and they manage to continuing doing it well throughout. Hoping for the latter but it's too early to tell.

The background art was... well it was non existent. Granted, if the show turns out to be amazing, the background art doesn't really matter that much... but I still wish it at least existed.

Will make sure to watch next week's episode with a prybar at the ready.

May 10, 2022 8:55 PM

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Chipp12 said:

ROMARIOkkkk said:
Sorry, i deleted my quote by accident.

First: No, you can right as many cards as you want, that's in the rules.

Second: I don't know what the gods voting has to do with what I said. When I talked about Yuuichi's last strategy, i was referring to him asking everyone to write "I applied to play the Tomodachi". In this case, the management would definitely know who applied to play, therefore the gods would not need to make the voting.
You also deleted your quote to my reply so i'll also answer that. Tenji's and Yuuichi's case (where they had to prove they were lying) has nothing to do with this (again).
Let's suppose someone wrote "Shiho exposed Kokorogi's secret at the 4th period". In this case (just as in Yuuichi's last plan) the management would already know whether this was a lie or not. So if everyone write the same thing but replacing with their own names, the one who DID write Kokorogi's secret would be revealed, therefore he would not be penalized by lying. The management has the duty to make the game fair, so it would be unfair if they just ignored their own rules by saying "Whatever, all of you are going to walk some places ahead because you didn't prove you didn't write Kokorogi's secret" when it's obvious only one person could have wrote it.

You was talking about a strategy where everybody puts in 3 cards resulting 12 cards in total (if traitor also agreed to go with it). They're not going to verify every single card there. Only the top 4 voted by gods. That's my point.

I really wanna know where did you get the info that they are not going to verify every card there. Firstly, voting takes place only after all cards are read. It's not like the gods choose "ok we are going to vote only for these four cards, there's no need in reading the others". They read ALL cards and then the voting begins.

May 10, 2022 9:16 PM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:
I really wanna know where did you get the info that they are not going to verify every card there. Firstly, voting takes place only after all cards are read. It's not like the gods choose "ok we are going to vote only for these four cards, there's no need in reading the others". They read ALL cards and then the voting begins.

The rule says that you move in front of a leader if your lie gets exposed. How do you expect them to move participants around for 12 lies? It's logical that they'll adjust that only for the top voted results. Also I've edited my previous comments and you quoted the outdated one.
As I've already said game admins have sponsors for that game and they need them to be entertained instead of wasting time on verifying every single thing if there are so many discrepancies.

Chipp12May 10, 2022 9:20 PM

May 10, 2022 9:23 PM

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that ending is killing me

May 10, 2022 10:37 PM

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lol why couldn't this anime have at least a decent production? is just so crazy and entertaining, this and Isekai Mob are 2 pretty good shows that deserved so much better production value

May 10, 2022 10:41 PM

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Over-analyzing a show like this ruins it, Im loving it so far. Who is smarter Yuuichi or Kongming?

May 10, 2022 11:13 PM

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Deym answering time of period ended it with such a wild way. I already see Yuuichi from the previously, he might use those golden rule and spill his true secret about the murderer, its actually him. At the end, he still sacrificing himself like that *sadge*. However, i legit never see Tenji coming into something like that. Fuckin the most awkward plot twist i've ever seen ngl xd.

Oh well, still, it's a very nice episode, on point already, and pretty much mind-blowing me. I am interested to see where their journey ended. Will they doing another new opening? Or what? So, like Manabu said, please proceed onto the third game, happily ever after!

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May 10, 2022 11:25 PM

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finally we're getting to the good part!! The kissing scene is so bad TAT but what can i say it's what it is i shouldn't expect anything more than this blandness from this adaptation. I can only hope they're saving their budget for the 3rd game.

May 10, 2022 11:27 PM

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What in the actual fuck tenji? Didn't expected that shit bruh 😂😂. Let's see what happens next

May 10, 2022 11:45 PM

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Galaxy_N1ck said:

pasanoid said:
this show is a whole new level of garbage. like, I've seen some bad anime but this is so bad its good

I really want to know what you find so bad about this anime

are you implying it is 'not so bad'? did we even watch the same show?

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

the mc being a 'tondemonai bakemono' sigma male maniac is also cringe. why they always have to be like that? its super overuesd. and the two wemen watching over the farce in the lots-of-screens-room constantly reinforcing the notion with comments -- "oh my goddo, masaka, omae wa nanimono da?" -- who the fuck needed this.

the 3 amazing tricks the mc used to weed out the amogus weren't as grand either. they only worked because the mc had to win somehow. or rather demonstrate his sigma male pepega infinite iq powers. is this shit made to impress little kids? the game has no stakes because it's already in the bag -- it is established that the mc is going to pull bullshit move out of his ass with a psycho smear and be like: precisely as planned muahahahahah! every time

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May 10, 2022 11:57 PM

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pasanoid said:

Galaxy_N1ck said:

I really want to know what you find so bad about this anime

are you implying it is 'not so bad'? did we even watch the same show?

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

the mc being a 'tondemonai bakemono' sigma male maniac is also cringe. why they always have to be like that? its super overuesd. and the two wemen watching over the farce in the lots-of-screens-room constantly reinforcing the notion with comments -- "oh my goddo, masaka, omae wa nanimono da?" -- who the fuck needed this.

the 3 amazing tricks the mc used to weed out the amogus weren't as grand either. they only worked because the mc had to win somehow. or rather demonstrate his sigma male pepega infinite iq powers. is this shit made to impress little kids? the game has no stakes because it's already in the bag -- it is established that the mc is going to pull bullshit move out of his ass with a psycho smear and be like: precisely as planned muahahahahah! every time

from your comment it made me know You are the one who judges other things by your own eyes and prejudice. not use your brain No matter how bad this anime is But what I get from your message is bias.

May 11, 2022 12:05 AM

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It's not the first poster who wasn't watching the show properly/was watching is as some kind of trash and then started complaining after this episode because they've missed all previous developments/explanations. Don't bother with them.

May 11, 2022 12:16 AM

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TaTuy said:

pasanoid said:

are you implying it is 'not so bad'? did we even watch the same show?

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

the mc being a 'tondemonai bakemono' sigma male maniac is also cringe. why they always have to be like that? its super overuesd. and the two wemen watching over the farce in the lots-of-screens-room constantly reinforcing the notion with comments -- "oh my goddo, masaka, omae wa nanimono da?" -- who the fuck needed this.

the 3 amazing tricks the mc used to weed out the amogus weren't as grand either. they only worked because the mc had to win somehow. or rather demonstrate his sigma male pepega infinite iq powers. is this shit made to impress little kids? the game has no stakes because it's already in the bag -- it is established that the mc is going to pull bullshit move out of his ass with a psycho smear and be like: precisely as planned muahahahahah! every time

from your comment it made me know You are the one who judges other things by your own eyes and prejudice. not use your brain No matter how bad this anime is But what I get from your message is bias.

please google bias and prejudice. it seems you are using the words you know not the meaning of

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May 11, 2022 12:38 AM

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It was a very interesting episode lol I didn't expect Tenji to kiss Yuichi ahah BTW, Yuichi's friends are so mean, why do they leave him?

May 11, 2022 12:41 AM

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Tenji loving Yuichi really caught me by surprise, and I thought from the next episode this show was going to be two lovers defeating the game together until I saw the ending scene.

May 11, 2022 2:36 AM

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lmfao that bl kiss

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May 11, 2022 3:01 AM

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Great episode, almost excellent if the art and animation was a bit better.
However, I find it pretty weird seeing ppl trying so hard to complicate already solved or simple matters.

May 11, 2022 3:10 AM

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This anime needs way more attention than it has. The manga is fantastic.

May 11, 2022 3:33 AM

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Chipp12 said:

ROMARIOkkkk said:
I really wanna know where did you get the info that they are not going to verify every card there. Firstly, voting takes place only after all cards are read. It's not like the gods choose "ok we are going to vote only for these four cards, there's no need in reading the others". They read ALL cards and then the voting begins.

The rule says that you move in front of a leader if your lie gets exposed. How do you expect them to move participants around for 12 lies? It's logical that they'll adjust that only for the top voted results. Also I've edited my previous comments and you quoted the outdated one.
As I've already said game admins have sponsors for that game and they need them to be entertained instead of wasting time on verifying every single thing if there are so many discrepancies.

Are you saying it's impossible to make them move with 12 lies? How is it impossible? In that case everyone will keep moving ahead of the person in first place. There's nothing that forbid them to make this moves, you are simply assuming this out of nowhere. If your concern is about the person in front be the one who the lie was read first, all this person is going to do is move one place ahead, after all they'll be basically moving one place ahead of the leader (themselves).
And once again, why the hell would they have a rule saying you can write as many cards as you want if you are not going to verify all of them (as you are saying). Oh, they have to completely break their own rules so the game keeps interesting for the observers/sponsors? Is that what you are saying? What is more important, keep them entertained by rigging the game or follow the rules to make it fair? like you said, they have sponsors, it's like a contract, if those sponsors agreed to be there they should be aware of how the game rules work too.
Everything you're saying is just assumptions, things that weren't even discussed but you took it as the truth.

May 11, 2022 3:45 AM

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hidden gem this season

May 11, 2022 4:05 AM

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half beginning of the ep the animation kinda lack something, but the rest it's ok..

May 11, 2022 4:29 AM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:
Everything you're saying is just assumptions, things that weren't even discussed but you took it as the truth.

Same for you. I was basing it on what they've shown for the second game. They have never shown what happened to those 10 cards sent by Tenji but they could change the game considerably if every single out of those was counted.

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May 11, 2022 4:33 AM

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Chipp12 said:

ROMARIOkkkk said:
Everything you're saying is just assumptions, things that weren't even discussed but you took it as the truth.

Same for your assumptions.

See? You don't even try to argue or refute what I said. Just take a bunch of rules out of your ass and take it for granted. Kinda pathetic

May 11, 2022 4:47 AM

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LMFAOOOOOO?$+$+$+ i dont even care if thats a lie. i still dont like tenji but erm congrats on coming out?🎉

May 11, 2022 4:50 AM

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pasanoid said:

Galaxy_N1ck said:

I really want to know what you find so bad about this anime

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

Once again, wasn't it obvious that he just kissed Yuuichi so he could go on to the next game? Even when I was reading the manga was pretty obvious, not just that but this adaptation made it pretty clear that "Tenji has its own motives". It's not like he loves Yuuichi tho...

May 11, 2022 5:12 AM

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Anime-only watcher speculation: he attempted tomodachi game in his previous school and lost something precious back there. He couldn't attend to that school anymore (most likely his friends didn't trust him anymore), so he moved to a new school, made new friends there and then used those friends to enter tomodachi game for the second time.

I still found that lie pretty stupid and it could've been done better. The whole kiss scene left me with a feeling of disgust.

Seitaro11May 30, 2022 3:38 PM

May 11, 2022 5:21 AM

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I'm speechless after watching this episode 6

May 11, 2022 5:26 AM

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the levels of plot twist in this one episode, it was almost too ridiculous but I wonder what Tenji lost because he was daaaang was he desperate LMAO

May 11, 2022 5:30 AM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:
First, it's implied that Yuuichi did the way he did because he was trying to "help" the traitor. Let me explain, the reason why Yuuichi in first place accepted to play the Tomodachi Game was because he wanted to help his friend in debt. Therefore until the first "strategy" (the one that failed) he (and everyone else) thought that the traitor's goal was to get rid of their debt. Remember what Yuuichi did? He gave them a full layout of how the second game works saying that the "second part" of the game would have more spaces that reduce their debt, and then he said that he'd want to end that game with everyone together, with no more fight. He basically gave a chance to the traitor reduce their debt IF their problem was money, he gave this chance because he truly considered everyone there his friend, even the traitor and he wanted to help this traitor. But when he noticed that the traitor's goal was actually something else but not money, Yuuichi changed his mind. The traitor (who at that moment, they thought their problem was money) refused the best strategy to reduce their debt. Yuuichi who tried to help the traitor, who he also considered a friend, changed his plans at that moment.
Do you get it now?

I don't think he assumed their goal was money. It was a possibility but he made sure to try and figure out if it was or was not their goal. It's a little unreasonable to assume getting out of debt was the goal because this game has horrible risk/reward and they had a rich friend in Shibe. They have much safer better means to escape debt.

I also don't think he intended everyone to win the game even from the start. If he did, there is a foolproof way to ensure a 5 way tie, by tricking everyone into telling a lie that only he could confirm and then revealing them when someone is one or two spaces from the end. He also still had the option of doing so after figuring out tenji was the traitor but not for debt. There's no logical reason for him to change his mind just because debt wasn't the traitors primary concern. He still has 3 non traitors who have to worry about the debt.

Additionally, his reasoning for going on alone had nothing to do with the traitor and everything to do with wanting to keep his friends safe from the rest of the game as well as assuage his guilt for not telling them he was a murderer.

In fact, if he really wanted to go on alone and expose the traitor he could do it on the very first turn of the game all by himself. Write 100 cards that say "I think 1+1 = 3", and then write "shibe applied to the tomodachi game", "shiho applied to the tomodachi game" "other girl (i forget her name) applied to the tomodachi game" "tenji applied to the tomodachi game". He then claims all of them are lies. They verify that tenji applying to the tomodachi game is not a lie and then punish him for 103 lies moving him 103 spaces forward ending the game instantly. This also leaves no time for his friends to start tearing apart the friendship and no chance for the traitor to "go berserk". It also doesn't require any cooperation from his friends and they don't have time to land on any squares to acquire any extra debt since we see that lying movement is applied before turn movement. In fact, it completely minimizes the amount of debt gained in the game. It is a flawless strategy.

May 11, 2022 5:42 AM

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phantomfandom said:
It's a big win, LOVE WINS! Even if I have 100 chances to predict how this episode will end I would never predict that kiss, considering that I'm also BL too. I bet even the smart ass Yuichi didn't see this coming LOL.

I need more BL twist like this in other anime, don't let Tomodachi Game be the only one in this path (sure, it's not the only one, but still very rare). I need to make it normal to have a guy kiss a guy.

I just skimmed the manga

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May 11, 2022 5:58 AM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:

Chipp12 said:

Same for your assumptions.

See? You don't even try to argue or refute what I said. Just take a bunch of rules out of your ass and take it for granted. Kinda pathetic

You know what? At the end of the day it's not important what he could or couldn't do to make the game go smoother. He was controlling the flow of the game to achieve his goal - go to the next game alone while leaving others behind - and he has (almost) done that.

May 11, 2022 5:58 AM

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Someone please tell me they kill of those annoying ass commentary girls this show would have 10x better pacing if they didn’t explain everything. Everything actually interesting happens in the last 5 minutes. Other than that great ep

May 11, 2022 5:59 AM

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ROMARIOkkkk said:

pasanoid said:

for a last few episodes Tenji guy is established as an amogus and what's more we get to hear his lengthy inner rambling -- he goes on and on about taking Sawaragi girl for himself and not much more. suddenly -- when it was revealed to the entire gang that he is in fact the amogus -- he declares himself gay, makes out with the mc and they both jump off the bridge. a meaningful start of a redemption arc? the story lays out some premises and then -- fuck you I lied -- goes in completely opposite direction. this is not an earned plot twist, this is a puddle of piss

Once again, wasn't it obvious that he just kissed Yuuichi so he could go on to the next game? Even when I was reading the manga was pretty obvious, not just that but this adaptation made it pretty clear that "Tenji has its own motives". It's not like he loves Yuuichi tho...

there is nothing obvious in this story because it lacks coherence. like, if he's suddenly just wanna play friends why was he an amogus for the last 4 episodes straight? and if he's suddenly gay, why he never thought how sweet dat Yuuichi's ass looks etc. in drama there is a concept of "Chechov's gun" (google it if you want) -- that implies that the details in the story must be necessary and enough to make sense basically. and then you have these types of story where there are guns everywhere and instead of getting shot you die from from butthole aneurysm

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May 11, 2022 6:01 AM

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WilfredJohnson said:
Someone please tell me they kill of those annoying ass commentary girls this show would have 10x better pacing if they didn’t explain everything. Everything actually interesting happens in the last 5 minutes. Other than that great ep

but they must explain everything because the story is so bad it can't explain itself through storytelling

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RinTheWanderer said:

ROMARIOkkkk said:
First, it's implied that Yuuichi did the way he did because he was trying to "help" the traitor. Let me explain, the reason why Yuuichi in first place accepted to play the Tomodachi Game was because he wanted to help his friend in debt. Therefore until the first "strategy" (the one that failed) he (and everyone else) thought that the traitor's goal was to get rid of their debt. Remember what Yuuichi did? He gave them a full layout of how the second game works saying that the "second part" of the game would have more spaces that reduce their debt, and then he said that he'd want to end that game with everyone together, with no more fight. He basically gave a chance to the traitor reduce their debt IF their problem was money, he gave this chance because he truly considered everyone there his friend, even the traitor and he wanted to help this traitor. But when he noticed that the traitor's goal was actually something else but not money, Yuuichi changed his mind. The traitor (who at that moment, they thought their problem was money) refused the best strategy to reduce their debt. Yuuichi who tried to help the traitor, who he also considered a friend, changed his plans at that moment.
Do you get it now?

I don't think he assumed their goal was money. It was a possibility but he made sure to try and figure out if it was or was not their goal. It's a little unreasonable to assume getting out of debt was the goal because this game has horrible risk/reward and they had a rich friend in Shibe. They have much safer better means to escape debt.

I also don't think he intended everyone to win the game even from the start. If he did, there is a foolproof way to ensure a 5 way tie, by tricking everyone into telling a lie that only he could confirm and then revealing them when someone is one or two spaces from the end. He also still had the option of doing so after figuring out tenji was the traitor but not for debt. There's no logical reason for him to change his mind just because debt wasn't the traitors primary concern. He still has 3 non traitors who have to worry about the debt.

Additionally, his reasoning for going on alone had nothing to do with the traitor and everything to do with wanting to keep his friends safe from the rest of the game as well as assuage his guilt for not telling them he was a murderer.

In fact, if he really wanted to go on alone and expose the traitor he could do it on the very first turn of the game all by himself. Write 100 cards that say "I think 1+1 = 3", and then write "shibe applied to the tomodachi game", "shiho applied to the tomodachi game" "other girl (i forget her name) applied to the tomodachi game" "tenji applied to the tomodachi game". He then claims all of them are lies. They verify that tenji applying to the tomodachi game is not a lie and then punish him for 103 lies moving him 103 spaces forward ending the game instantly. This also leaves no time for his friends to start tearing apart the friendship and no chance for the traitor to "go berserk". It also doesn't require any cooperation from his friends and they don't have time to land on any squares to acquire any extra debt since we see that lying movement is applied before turn movement. In fact, it completely minimizes the amount of debt gained in the game. It is a flawless strategy.

No it's not a little unreasonable. The purpose of the game is precisely to get rid of a debt that one of the 5 has through cooperation. Of course, Yuuichi might think a little further and say "maybe their motive isn't money", but aguarbly the first thought would be that the traitor is desperately trying to get out of debt.

Of course that was a way to Yuuichi tests the traitor. While he wanted everyone to cooperate through that first strategy, he also wanted to test the traitor's objective.

Now here you are right, it is possible that his plan from the beginning was to go alone to the next game. But still, he saw the opportunity for everyone to cooperate there in the second part of the game, where the debt would decrease dramatically. By doing this by arriving at the last space with everyone together, he could reveal that he told a lie and then go alone to the next game with almost no debt acquired there. The point is that he did all this in order to acquire as little debt as possible, a plan that failed because the traitor's purpose was not money. Either way, he still tried to help the traitor by using that strategy/test that failed, after all that's why he accepted to play the game in first place.

Now this strategy makes kinda sense but i don't think it would work, first because i doubt "I think 1+1=3" would be considered a defamation (if they consideredthat as a slander i would find it pretty dumb), second because it was just the start of the game, i don't think he had realized how the spaces would work.

Thomas_yorkMay 11, 2022 7:09 AM

May 11, 2022 6:12 AM

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aaaaa Yuichi is insane, I love how he planned all this and got everyone in it without Tenji even getting a whiff of it. Also I wonder what Tenji is up to now.

May 11, 2022 6:21 AM

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