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| People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing. Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation. |
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| No it was foreshadowed. |
Andan210 said: Aichiro said: The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers. Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko. He can. The King is the absolute strongest being ever created in the Hunter x Hunter universe. No human being, Top Hunter or not, is on par with him. He could kill Hisoka and The Phantom Troupe in the blink of an eye. Now, nuclear bombs are another different topic... Meruem is a god, humans can't defeat him. But since humans are evil, they will eventually find a dirty way to do it. Like Netero did. Netero challanged Meruem to a fair fight, yet he used a bomb to kill him, a bomb which has the form of a rose. However there still was a good side in Netero, since he admitted defeat by telling the king his name, inside himself he admitted the superiority of chimera ants, and this is exactly why humans have to get rid of them. |
GuusWayne said: People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing. Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation. Fixed. |
| The only True Ending is the Harem Ending. |
GuusWayne said: Everything from the fight to the animation was perfect this episode. Also, I thought the ending was satisfying. Not going down without making an impact.People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing. Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation. |
Andan210 said: I'm refering to the King, he's also a character if you didn't know. I don't care as much about Netero, he was already defeated.GuusWayne said: People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing. Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation. Fixed. |
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ValeBreck said: Andan210 said: Aichiro said: The king is so full of himself. I completely agreed with Netero when he made that insect speech. Does he really think he can defeat ALL the humans? There's fucking Hisoka the Phantom Troupe, plus the top 5 Hunters in the world including Gon's father. And if none of them can beat him we still have the Atomic and Nuclear bomb developers. Anyways the next episode looks interesting. It seems time's up for the neko. He can. The King is the absolute strongest being ever created in the Hunter x Hunter universe. No human being, Top Hunter or not, is on par with him. He could kill Hisoka and The Phantom Troupe in the blink of an eye. Now, nuclear bombs are another different topic... Meruem is a god, humans can't defeat him. But since humans are evil, they will eventually find a dirty way to do it. Like Netero did. Netero challanged Meruem to a fair fight, yet he used a bomb to kill him, a bomb which has the form of a rose. However there still was a good side in Netero, since he admitted defeat by telling the king his name, inside himself he admitted the superiority of chimera ants, and this is exactly why humans have to get rid of them. Pretty much this. Not even the strongest humans in the world hold a candle to Meruem, that's why they needed their superior war machines in order to defeat him. |
| The only True Ending is the Harem Ending. |
GuusWayne said: Andan210 said: I'm refering to the King, he's also a character if you didn't know. I don't care as much about Netero, he was already defeated.GuusWayne said: People can we stop complaining about the bomb? Yes it's an asspull and I would've prefered the strongest human character in the series to go out in a better, more satisfying way but it's still amazing. Let's talk about the fight and the godlike animation. Fixed. Oh, i was sure you were talking about Netero. My bad, sorry. |
| The only True Ending is the Harem Ending. |
tsudecimo said: kontrared said: tsudecimo said: ValeBreck said: Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened. What is the true meaning behind that asspull? Coming from the guy who has Naruto as his avatar and gave Naruto Shippuden a 10. If this episode was an asspull, I wonder what the hell the Naruto manga is at this moment? I wouldn't know since I'm not a manga reader, I follow the anime. The bomb was the asspull, not the entire episode. Honestly if you'd see what was happening in the manga right now you'd take back your words and even lower Naruto's rating, it's that much of an asspull, it seems like Kishimoto doesn't even give a fuck anymore and just wants to end it. But whatever, not gonna discuss this too much. cba. |
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| That. Was. Amazing! I did not expect the bomb lol, I thought the final attack would finish both of them. :') Btw, that was not a nuke. A nuke is not low budget, has a bigger explosion and has resulting fallout that would probs kill Gon and Killua and the rest. idk why a bomb as small to fit in his chest would kill the King tho, maybe they manufactured some kind of HxH nen bomb? |
| Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. |
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| Dat Netero smile :D |
DesolatePsycheApr 22, 2014 2:10 PM
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| The leg thing was fucking creepy as fuck man Good fight though |
| I can't even say how much I loved this episode so I make it quick. It was the best thing ever. Well done Madhouse, I guess you placed all on the HxH horse. And @ naruto guy, it's kinda funny to talk about asspulls in HxH coming from someone who likes Naruto Shippuded, master of all asspulls. Not that it would make any argument you have less true, but it just seems ironic, because apparently asspulls shouldn't bother you. |
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tsudecimo said: TonyTonyStark said: tsudecimo said: ValeBreck said: Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened. What is the true meaning behind that asspull? It shows that the show is realistic enough to acknowledge the inferiority of a certain side, that they don't use asspulls like power surges or sayian modes to wriggle out of it, but by using things alternative to Nen, which already exist in the world. But it's an asspull. Doesn't make much of a difference if it's a power surge or something that exists in this world, it only adds to one theme. Don't worry the power surge kind of asspull is near. How is it an asspull when it is shown as the opposite of an asspull? Was it out of nowhere? Foreshadowed multiple times Explanation, simple enough and doesn't need much What did it demonstrate? The inability of Netero to kill Meruem. An asspull would be, for example, Naruto using Kyuubi to demonstrate his rage and will and love for friends. |
GuusWayne said: Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. Except the part where 5 million people would die. |
GuusWayne said: Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. Thanks for killing everyone in the castle with your plan. |
GuusWayne said: Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. What about the people there??? And what about Netero's selfishness wanting to fight? Creative or not the bomb was a realistic way to do it and that's why liked it (speaking for myself though), and no it wasn't an asspull... well opinions...... Showtime.... |
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| perfect episode, it is the best |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
TonyTonyStark said: How is it an asspull when it is shown as the opposite of an asspull? Was it out of nowhere? Foreshadowed multiple times Explanation, simple enough and doesn't need much What did it demonstrate? The inability of Netero to kill Meruem. An asspull would be, for example, Naruto using Kyuubi to demonstrate his rage and will and love for friends. I don't like Naruto, but the Kyubi has more foreshadowing than this Bomb. |
| Togashi didn't want to ruin a moment by foreshadowing something that would ruin the whole potential of the fight. I don't know how foreshadowing the nuke would benefit the story what so ever. The whole checkmate situation would be less significant and less impactful. I'm sure Togashi thought it through because he took year long hiatus's between certain parts of the arc. |
Orsonius said: And @ naruto guy, it's kinda funny to talk about asspulls in HxH coming from someone who likes Naruto Shippuded, master of all asspulls. Not that it would make any argument you have less true, but it just seems ironic, because apparently asspulls shouldn't bother you. Well you can list them in my profile if you want. I'm glad that you are not using a logic fallacy at least. The fact that it's an asspull doesn't bother me as much what transpired due to it. If you didn't read the manga don't open the spoilers here |
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| Magnificent episode. Glorious...simply fucking glorious. Never have I seen such a magnificent episode in an anime before. *clapping* |
noonealive said: Togashi didn't want to ruin a moment by foreshadowing something that would ruin the whole potential of the fight. I don't know how foreshadowing the nuke would benefit the story what so ever. The whole checkmate situation would be less significant and less impactful. I'm sure Togashi thought it through because he took year long hiatus's between certain parts of the arc. Well yes I actually agree with you. It didn't amaze me or make me surprised, despite being unpredictable. I'm merely calling it an asspull, whether it's good or bad is up to people's opinion. This reminds of a lesser extent to the mega asspull in Attack on titan about Eren. Which was a good asspull imo, since it benefited greatly from the lack of foreshadowing. |
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| It isn't an asspull. It was foreshadowed: When the fight begin. Netero said :" This is a testing ground for military heavy weaponry" When creepy Knov come back. Knov said: "I have received word from a messenger of the president. He has taken the king to appoint location" "It doesn't matter what the guards do now .. They will be too late" |
| jajajaja we know that Naruto is a masterpiece without any mistake or deux ex machina because is 100% logical. |
| Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies Nor is it to cut away your own weakness A sword isnt meant to protect your body A sword is meant for protecting your soul" |
| MADHOUSE delivered. |
tsudecimo said: Orsonius said: And @ naruto guy, it's kinda funny to talk about asspulls in HxH coming from someone who likes Naruto Shippuded, master of all asspulls. Not that it would make any argument you have less true, but it just seems ironic, because apparently asspulls shouldn't bother you. Well you can list them in my profile if you want. I'm glad that you are not using a logic fallacy at least. The fact that it's an asspull doesn't bother me as much what transpired due to it. If you didn't read the manga don't open the spoilers here Don't worry I am not going down the fallacy route I am not stupid, but I couldn't help myself but comment on the fact you like shippuden so much, even though I find it one of the worst written shounen of all time (not that I know all shounen of all time but man wtf is going on in that manga right now holy moly) |
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Guilek said: Those bombs are designed for the very purpose of wiping millions of innocents, a few idiots in a castle don't mean shit when we're talking about the survival of a whole species.GuusWayne said: Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. Thanks for killing everyone in the castle with your plan. |
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SetsukoHara said: TonyTonyStark said: How is it an asspull when it is shown as the opposite of an asspull? Was it out of nowhere? Foreshadowed multiple times Explanation, simple enough and doesn't need much What did it demonstrate? The inability of Netero to kill Meruem. An asspull would be, for example, Naruto using Kyuubi to demonstrate his rage and will and love for friends. I don't like Naruto, but the Kyubi has more foreshadowing than this Bomb. More or better? Anyway, when did they foreshadowing? Arguing that Kyubi always existed is the same as bombs always existing, but what about next forms? And their convenient timing in a predicament? Netero used it because he could, as a last resort, it wasn't something he conjured up at the end because he needed to. As for foreshadowing, there's no "more" in it, or at least it doesn't affect it MUCH. it's either foreshadowed or not, and the more instances, means the more proof there is. But I would like to hear how they foreshadowed Naruto using 4, 6,8 tails, or Kyuubi being a Nakama, or pretty much 90% of Naruto's forms. |
| Considering how fucked up, in a moral sense, the HxH world is. I think they didn't use the bomb more because of Netero's selfishness than because they wanted to save millions of life. |
noonealive said: Togashi didn't want to ruin a moment by foreshadowing something that would ruin the whole potential of the fight. I don't know how foreshadowing the nuke would benefit the story what so ever. The whole checkmate situation would be less significant and less impactful. I'm sure Togashi thought it through because he took year long hiatus's between certain parts of the arc. He did foreshadow it, I reckon on 5-7 occasions, but very subtly so that it would come as a surprise. Any one of these foreshadowings might do in showcasing it. |
| Guys, please don't turn this into another HxH vs. Naruto thread. Can't we just talk about how awesome this episode was? |
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GuusWayne said: Guilek said: Those bombs are designed for the very purpose of wiping millions of innocents, a few idiots in a castle don't mean shit when we're talking about the survival of a whole species.GuusWayne said: Np the bomb thing I can sorta understand but it wasn't a creative way to end the king at all. They could've just done that from the begining, it downplays the whole arc, fuck the dragon dive, drop a nuke and exterminate them fucking ants. No need for all the shit that's happened so far. Thanks for killing everyone in the castle with your plan. So basically your reasoning is "They shouldn't give a fak about 5 million people and Nuke the stupid castle from the beginning"..... Seems legit.... I would like to see that happening in real world too.... Easy as fak!!!! Well, I lost some brain cells and have to go find them... good luck and best wishes. |
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tsudecimo said: Well yes I actually agree with you. It didn't amaze me or make me surprised, despite being unpredictable. I'm merely calling it an asspull, whether it's good or bad is up to people's opinion. This reminds of a lesser extent to the mega asspull in Attack on titan about Eren. Which was a good asspull imo, since it benefited greatly from the lack of foreshadowing. Well, it's hard to convince someone if it's an asspull or not if they didn't like the majority of the arc. I'm glad Togashi didn't foreshadow such a thing because implying anything in the slightest that Netero might have had a bomb in him would ruin it. It's not like he didn't hint at such things either. You're confusing "asspull" from good storytelling IMO. I don't see how Eren's situation differs from the lack of foreshadow. |
TonyTonyStark said: He did foreshadow it, I reckon on 5-7 occasions, but very subtly so that it would come as a surprise. Any one of these foreshadowings might do in showcasing it. Oh yeah of course, i knew there was subtle hints. I was pointing out that knowing a bomb might have been an answer for Mereum would totally ruin the moment. |
SetsukoHara said: Considering how fucked up, in a moral sense, the HxH world is. I think they didn't use the bomb more because of Netero's selfishness than because they wanted to save millions of life. Actually yes, that was my interpretation too. Netero simply wanted to enjoy his last fight and see if he can win. |
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| I don't agree with Tsudecimo, but saying that Naruto is shit won't solve anything, so please stop saying "You like Naruto, so your opinion is shit" |
| Oh they animated the finger. LOL. Awesome. |
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ValeBreck said: I don't agree with Tsudecimo, but saying that Naruto is shit won't solve anything, so please stop saying "You like Naruto, so your opinion is shit" XD is because for him naruto is perfect jajajaja come on thats really funny |
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| Very well done, to quote Meruem: "Bravo", I was sort of expecting a big explosion but not as was presented in this episode, it leave me in awe. I didn't expected the fight to end in this episode, and apparently the King is really dead as seen on the preview. Also this is a great week for Hunter x Hunter fans: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1155593 |
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domme008 said: TonyTonyStark said: tsudecimo said: ValeBreck said: Even though I bet some people will still complain, not understanding the true meaning behind what happened. What is the true meaning behind that asspull? It shows that the show is realistic enough to acknowledge the inferiority of a certain side, that they don't use asspulls like power surges or sayian modes to wriggle out of it, but by using things alternative to Nen, which already exist in the world. But still, the bomb had the condition that it would activate after Netero's heart stopped beating. So why didn't they send just some random guy or criminal, and let him die so that the bomb could explode? That way, Meruem would have been nuked AND Netero wouldn't have had to sacrifice himself. I still loved the episode, but you have to admit that if they had that super-bomb, they wouldn't have had the need for all that preceded its explosion. What if Pito kill him when in go in her EN and die with him? What if the ramdom guy fail ? What if the ramdom guy attack when the King isn't in the palace? The ants will know the last resort of the humanity and evolve. |
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