| I'm not totally against VN's but i've heard something about 12 Hours alone for that first Part. 12 Hours of reading Stuff? Oof.. And reading/playing that wouldn't change my Situation right? The Anime Order would still be the same afterwards right? That i have to wait for the Movies etc. |
sibbo7 said: I'm not totally against VN's but i've heard something about 12 Hours alone for that first Part. 12 Hours of reading Stuff? Oof.. And reading/playing that wouldn't change my Situation right? The Anime Order would still be the same afterwards right? That i have to wait for the Movies etc. No, once you've read the VN you're free to do what ever you want as far as Zero goes. The VN is seriously addicting if you can get into it. |
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sibbo7 said: I'm not totally against VN's but i've heard something about 12 Hours alone for that first Part. 12 Hours of reading Stuff? Oof.. And reading/playing that wouldn't change my Situation right? The Anime Order would still be the same afterwards right? That i have to wait for the Movies etc. Once you read VN, you can do whatever you want as you have all the information you need ;) Nothing beats the source material. Well, 12 hours is about 3 12-episode animes. And it's not strictly reading, you also have nice visuals, voice acting and great background music :P |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
| Yeah but i'm more the Anime Type, so i'd prefer watching 30+ Anime Episodes over this :P And if you take a look at my PTW List you'll see that i have enough to do ^^ Might aswell wait for Stuff to come out :/ And i don't like knowing Stuff and than watching the Anime.. because of this i don't really read any Mangas at all because i don't want to get spoiled |
| I just finished the F/Z series and have been led to this thread in search of the opinion of the majority on the watch order of the Fate/ series. Most people prefer F/Z to be seen last because it spoils everything like hell. I don't mind the spoilers, and I've already watched Zero, so I guess I should skip the F/SN 2006 version, the UBW movie and go forth with the UBW (TV) version of which the first season is out. Then I should wait for its second season. Then I should wait for the HF movies. Right. I think I've got this right. I'm sorry this post seems to have no particular direction or target; I only wished to assemble my thoughts here (since the watch order of the Fate/series seems to be the most controversial topic on this earth) and be exposed to any needed rectification. |
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| Well i'll start with the UBW Prologue and the first Season so i can watch the 2nd Season when it comes out. After that i will wait for the Rest to come out before i watch Zero. Like i said i've got enough Stuff that i still have to watch.. so it will somehow work ;) |
sibbo7 said: Well i'll start with the UBW Prologue and the first Season so i can watch the 2nd Season when it comes out. After that i will wait for the Rest to come out before i watch Zero. Like i said i've got enough Stuff that i still have to watch.. so it will somehow work ;) Your choice ;) Final tip: I recommend you to try tp pay attention to the show and pick up as many details as you can. With that being said... have fun! |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
xcllnt said: This is right. I just want to add one thing. Don't expect Fate/stay night to be Fate/Zero 2 or you will be very disappointed. I'll try to keep that in mind. Guess /Zero raises the parameter unjustly high for everything else. Thanks a lot for the confirmation, xcllnt! |
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k0k0 said: xcllnt said: This is right. I just want to add one thing. Don't expect Fate/stay night to be Fate/Zero 2 or you will be very disappointed. I'll try to keep that in mind. Guess /Zero raises the parameter unjustly high for everything else. Thanks a lot for the confirmation, xcllnt! No. Not high. In wrong direction. Zero is ensemble cast, while FSN deals with detailed internal development of one person. |
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HungryPriest said: No. Not high. In wrong direction. Zero is ensemble cast, while FSN deals with detailed internal development of one person. Oh. I had no idea. Also, can I sound naive enough to ask why there's such a crowd of "[enter random word]Priest" users around? Is it some kind of a humorous reference to Kotomine Kirei? |
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k0k0 said: HungryPriest said: No. Not high. In wrong direction. Zero is ensemble cast, while FSN deals with detailed internal development of one person. Oh. I had no idea. Also, can I sound naive enough to ask why there's such a crowd of "[enter random word]Priest" users around? Is it some kind of a humorous reference to Kotomine Kirei? Before UBW TV prologue aired, one person jokingly suggested out of the blue that everyone changes his username to Priest and act like Kotomine. Idea was funny to big part of the fanbase and therefore Kotomine Church was born XD However, today, only a small amount of priests remain. This with moustaches started similarily. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: Before UBW TV prologue aired, one person jokingly suggested out of the blue that everyone changes his username to Priest and act like Kotomine. Idea was funny to big part of the fanbase and therefore Kotomine Church was born XD However, today, only a small amount of priests remain. This with moustaches started similarily. Hahaha, I see. |
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WrongPriest said: k0k0 said: Since the watch order of the Fate/series seems to be the most controversial topic on this earth Pretty much, yeah. Probably true. Especially after we finally concluded that Shiki can indeed kill servants. |
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WrongPriest said: of course Sakura is innocent whats wrong with you, it's only natural for people to get hungryantonn said: Probably true. Especially after we finally concluded that Shiki can indeed kill servants. and that Sakura is innocent. |
k0k0 said: xcllnt said: This is right. I just want to add one thing. Don't expect Fate/stay night to be Fate/Zero 2 or you will be very disappointed. I'll try to keep that in mind. Guess /Zero raises the parameter unjustly high for everything else. Thanks a lot for the confirmation, xcllnt! Fate Zero is a greek tragedy ensemble cast story meant to connect the dots of what you already know in FSN. It is story focused andnot character focused and follows multiple viewpoints. FSN is story of Emiya Shirou. IT is told through his eyes and it is story about him, his worldview, his psychology, his past and what he experiences and finds out now. It is primarily character focused and limited to mainly one point of view. Also the Grail War is NOT the focus and it is NOT about the death game(that is just a part of the setting in regards of challenging the main character). Also just fair warning - FSN expects you to not know ANYTHING from Zero, so don't be surprised when something is treated as a mystery or when the show dramatically and shockingly reveals something you already know. |
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sibbo7 said: Especially for the Movies which will take "Years" for them all to come out lol. It's stupid that you "have to" wait for Stuff to come out to watch something from 4 Years ago. (Fate Zero) Actually, for their Kara no Kyoukai movies, Ufotable released like 4 movies within a year, in two months or so of each other. |
| Yeah well but it would still be enough waiting a whole Year to watch something from (at that Time) 5 Years ago ^^ But i'll watch the UBW Prologue today and who knows.. maybe i'll still play the VN ^^ |
| Ok i've seen the Prologue.. and damn it was awesome. I don't even want to know the Cost for that one Episode.. awesome Visuals. |
"Do not watch 2006 adaptation of Fate/stay night". My heart bleeds. |
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Saber said: "Do not watch 2006 adaptation of Fate/stay night". My heart bleeds. O_O The original, one true Saber appears, not like that fake mira thing lurking around...! |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Saber said: My heart bleeds. O_O The original, one true Saber appears, not like that fake mira thing lurking around...! And I am not amused by all the hate for the DEEN adaptation. |
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Saber said: OneTrueEmiya said: O_O The original, one true Saber appears, not like that fake mira thing lurking around...! And I am not amused by all the hate for the DEEN adaptation. Why? The only thing it did half decent was Saber's resolution. Spoils other plot points for no reason. It's only worth watching if you want to see Saber's stuff animated after the VN has been read. |
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nocorras said: Saber said: And I am not amused by all the hate for the DEEN adaptation. Why? The only thing it did half decent was Saber's resolution. Spoils other plot points for no reason. It's only worth watching if you want to see Saber's stuff animated after the VN has been read. I realize this. I loved the anime when I first saw it, but saw it's glaring flaws after I read the VN. But I still hold the original Fate anime in high regard. Call it a mixture of nostalgia and fanboyism if you will. I was hyped when I heard that Fate would get a new adaptation by ufotable, but imagine how crushed I was when I heard it would be UBW. I have not even touched UBW since it started airing. |
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| lol. Saber fans please. MORE MORE MORE MORE. I want Fate adaptation too but not touching UBW just because you didn't get Fate is ridiculous. |
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nocorras said: lol. Saber fans please. The question is: is there something wrong with that? |
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Saber said: nocorras said: lol. Saber fans please. The question is: is there something wrong with that? It's pretty funny that you can't enjoy something else just because it's not the exact one you wanted, so yeah. |
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| Fate is mad boring so I'm glad we got UBW and HF. |
Feaor said: Fate is mad boring so I'm glad we got UBW and HF. May the wars begin. |
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nocorras said: Saber said: The question is: is there something wrong with that? It's pretty funny that you can't enjoy something else just because it's not the exact one you wanted, so yeah. As a continuation to Fate/Zero (I have been told by people that this anime adaption is particularly designed in a way that you are supposed to have seen F/Z first, despite F/Z being the prequel), UBW just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. All the arcs involving Saber that were depicted in Fate/Zero are not really resolved in UBW. It just doesn't do it for me. Has it more action than Fate? Yes. Has it a more engaging storyline than Fate? I guess. Do I want to see it? No. I have no problem with admitting that I am very much butthurt about UBW getting the hyper-ufotable-treatment and I have no intention of yelling "stop liking what I don't like!" at people who take enjoyment out of UBW. But personally, I am deeply disappointed even now. As a Fate fan, I'm still sort of clinging to the hope that, perhaps after the Heaven's Feel movie, they may also give the Fate route another shot in order to complete the set. That and I'm also somewhat baffled Saber is TYPE-MOON's No. 1 cash cow, yet her route is not getting (re-)animated, but the production of new Saber figures by far overshadows that of Rin figures. TYPE-MOON loves their money. |
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Saber said: nocorras said: It's pretty funny that you can't enjoy something else just because it's not the exact one you wanted, so yeah. As a continuation to Fate/Zero (I have been told by people that this anime adaption is particularly designed in a way that you are supposed to have seen F/Z first, despite F/Z being the prequel), UBW just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. All the arcs involving Saber that were depicted in Fate/Zero are not really resolved in UBW. It just doesn't do it for me. Has it more action than Fate? Yes. Has it a more engaging storyline than Fate? I guess. Do I want to see it? No. I have no problem with admitting that I am very much butthurt about UBW getting the hyper-ufotable-treatment and I have no intention of yelling "stop liking what I don't like!" at people who take enjoyment out of UBW. But personally, I am deeply disappointed even now. As a Fate fan, I'm still sort of clinging to the hope that, perhaps after the Heaven's Feel movie, they may also give the Fate route another shot in order to complete the set. That and I'm also somewhat baffled Saber is TYPE-MOON's No. 1 cash cow, yet her route is not getting (re-)animated, but the production of new Saber figures by far overshadows that of Rin figures. TYPE-MOON loves their money. It's not designed to be seen after Fate/Zero, just because one or two references might be thrown in doesn't mean it's a 'continuation'. I do agree that it's weird that all this Saber stuff gets put in Zero and then there is no continuation of that in the next anime, but the Fate route is supposed to be given for free to Japanese viewers who want it. |
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| Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; |
Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. |
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Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; Not bad per se, but starting from F/SN VN or UBW anime would've been better. nocorras said: Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. Sheesh, don't be so harsh on newcomers, they're not all filthy secondaries, you know :P |
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nocorras said: Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. Are the spoilers big or just small? if they are small then it's good |
OneTrueEmiya said: Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; Not bad per se, but starting from F/SN VN or UBW anime would've been better. nocorras said: If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. Sheesh, don't be so harsh on newcomers, they're not all filthy secondaries, you know :P How is that even remotely harsh? Some people don't care about spoilers I'm just saying if they don't care about spoilers then order doesn't matter. |
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Illyas-viel said: nocorras said: If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. Are the spoilers big or just small? if they are small then it's good Let's just say they are ones that doesn't ruin Stay Night but may make you go "why are they making such a big deal out of this, I already know this from Zero" and it does turn HF's biggest plot twist into something you now take for granted. nocorras said: How is that even remotely harsh? Some people don't care about spoilers I'm just saying if they don't care about spoilers then order doesn't matter. Yeah, but it sounds so uppity imo :/ |
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Illyas-viel said: nocorras said: If you don't like spoilers it is. If you don't care then you can watch what you want. Are the spoilers big or just small? if they are small then it's good Pretty big overall. You won't notice as much watching UBW but during HF it's more apparent. |
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nocorras said: It's not designed to be seen after Fate/Zero, just because one or two references might be thrown in doesn't mean it's a 'continuation'. I do agree that it's weird that all this Saber stuff gets put in Zero and then there is no continuation of that in the next anime, but the Fate route is supposed to be given for free to Japanese viewers who want it. Well, I cannot comment since I have so far refused to watch UBW TV, it's just something I heard. As for "the Fate route is supposed to be given for free to Japanese viwers who want it", what exactly do you mean by that? Because the Fate route is for free on the android version of the VN? Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; Most people will probably tell you that it is. You also don't watch the Star Wars movies in chronological order. You watch Episodes IV trough VI first, and then you go with I through III. |
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nocorras said: Illyas-viel said: Are the spoilers big or just small? if they are small then it's good Pretty big overall. You won't notice as much watching UBW but during HF it's more apparent. Oh okay, thanks :D |
Saber said: nocorras said: It's not designed to be seen after Fate/Zero, just because one or two references might be thrown in doesn't mean it's a 'continuation'. I do agree that it's weird that all this Saber stuff gets put in Zero and then there is no continuation of that in the next anime, but the Fate route is supposed to be given for free to Japanese viewers who want it. Well, I cannot comment since I have so far refused to watch UBW TV, it's just something I heard. As for "the Fate route is supposed to be given for free to Japanese viwers who want it", what exactly do you mean by that? Because the Fate route is for free on the android version of the VN? Illyas-viel said: Uhh, i'm watching Fate Zero first out of all fate series (not including fate kaleid) Is that bad? ;-; Most people will probably tell you that it is. You also don't watch the Star Wars movies in chronological order. You watch Episodes IV trough VI first, and then you go with I through III. Yes, Japanese viewers can get Fate route from the VN for free on andriod |
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nocorras said: Yes, Japanese viewers can get Fate route from the VN for free on andriod And you mentioned this in your argument because of what? Were you meaning to say that, just because the Fate route of Fate/stay night is free on Android it cannot be held in the same regard as UBW and HF? |
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Saber said: nocorras said: Yes, Japanese viewers can get Fate route from the VN for free on andriod And you mentioned this in your argument because of what? Were you meaning to say that, just because the Fate route of Fate/stay night is free on Android it cannot be held in the same regard as UBW and HF? I'm saying there is a way for Japanese viewers to get more about Saber if they want it. I already agreed the jump from Zero's Saber stuff to UBW doesn't make sense, but it does make more sense when you realize they are giving Fate away for free. Who knows why they didn't do Fate again. Fate to HF wouldn't work very well but UBW to HF works fine even though it would be nice to have Fate Shirou stuff and Saber's resolution. |
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