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Oct 29, 2012 10:41 AM

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this episode made me laugh Yui's jealousy and the way she "unknowingly" stalked yuuya was hilarious but in a way cute :)
Cryska's realization was heartwarming she's been through a lot, Inia solved most of her loneliness. Now she's learning the concept of "love"

Cui is a complete 180 from everyone she's funny but thats about it :P

I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)
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ZetaGanja said:
I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)


Been wondering about this for a while too..., we saw them on the moon i think(?), so how did they get down to earth?

OT: For those who played Final Fantasy 8, when i first saw the beta on the moon then on earth, the first thing that came to my mind was the 'Lunar Cry' lol
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Naxrrhid said:
ZetaGanja said:
I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)


Been wondering about this for a while too..., we saw them on the moon i think(?), so how did they get down to earth?

OT: For those who played Final Fantasy 8, when i first saw the beta on the moon then on earth, the first thing that came to my mind was the 'Lunar Cry' lol


They were first sighted on Mars near the end of the 1950s; first encountered on the Moon in the late 1960s. The Kashgar Hive landed on Earth early 1970s.


Also, I find it funny everyone's ignoring the first part of the episode. You know.

ALTERNATIVE III

Anyway, Kasumi clone etc etc
Oct 29, 2012 11:22 AM

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It's official, they renamed this show to Much-Love Alternative: Total Harem.
Lots of potential, but they fucked up as if they were J.C. Staff. Historical animation quality, fascinating story depth and uber high-tech graphical animations of doom.
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MasterMeNL said:
It's official, they renamed this show to Much-Love Alternative: Total Harem.

Interesting that you know there is a harem being built in Total Eclipse only now.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 29, 2012 11:46 AM

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...Its pretty obvoious almost no one here played the VNs.

Well, whateva, lets just go on with some more romatic scenes. Did you all just forgot episode 2?


Since the anime almost needs that you know from the BETA and the 5 Alternative Plans beforehand, Im gonna shortly summarize it.

> BETA land on earth
> Planes do shit against them cuz Laser Class
> First TSF developed
> G-Bombs developed (Heavy firin, but they may have side effect like an atomic bomb and make the land almost useless, so they dont use them often)
> China Russia Europe Mainland compeltely overrun (iirc).
> 5 Billion People died already (yes, only 1/6 of humanity is alive).
> Human cant communicate with them, try anyway (and fail, more than one time)

Yuuya currently a Test Pilot, and as such, on the, more or less, safe Final Defense Line.

Since this plays in the Alternative Universe and Yuuya now more or less Japanese I expect:



Its like the VNs and the very first episodes: FIrst regular anime-harem stuff, then it develops little more drama,
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symbv said:
MasterMeNL said:
It's official, they renamed this show to Much-Love Alternative: Total Harem.

Interesting that you know there is a harem being built in Total Eclipse only now.

Secondaries and/or people who figured the show was only going to be MATURE, EDGY GORE from the first two episodes. Not that TE

ZetaGanja said:
I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)

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You're going to be disappointed as well. TE is almost entirely separate from Alternative. It has about as much relation to the trilogy as Fate does to Tsukihime.

The only real cross-over will be when they eventually take part in Ouka, and even then, the novels haven't gone that far and it is extremely unlikely that they'll be anything more than one of the diversions at another location.

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LordofHomo said:
angelslayerX said:


You're going to be disappointed as well. TE is almost entirely separate from Alternative. It has about as much relation to the trilogy as Fate does to Tsukihime.

The only real cross-over will be when they eventually take part in Ouka, and even then, the novels haven't gone that far and it is extremely unlikely that they'll be anything more than one of the diversions at another location.


Well, im not really into cross-overing characters. Idc if we actually see Captain Sagiri, the rebllion could only be used as a plot and it would be shame if it wasnt. Still, i dboubt Yuuya gonna get his happy harem ending. His harem gonna decrease with time or else I wont accept this as canon in the MuvLuv verse and give it a 4 by default. If they do a pretty damm good job at showin how humanity struggles to fight the beta, instant 9/10.
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Well, im not really into cross-overing characters. Idc if we actually see Captain Sagiri, the rebllion could only be used as a plot and it would be shame if it wasnt. Still, i dboubt Yuuya gonna get his happy harem ending. His harem gonna decrease with time or else I wont accept this as canon in the MuvLuv verse and give it a 4 by default. If they do a pretty damm good job at showin how humanity struggles to fight the beta, instant 9/10.

At best, there'll be a reference to the coup or Sadogashima. That's it. Much like the Yuuhi flashback, the most you're going to see of the main trilogy is a few references here and there; never anything direct. Like I said, it's almost entirely separate from the main trilogy.

As for the ending, that's all up in the air. The novels are to be concluded with the VN when that comes out next year, so the staff have to find a way of making a satisfying ending that suits both fans of the franchise and anime only fans. It's a bit of a pickle, really as they run the risk of spoiling the VN, or they bring out an anime original end which could be rather weak.
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This ep was fun actually :'D
Oct 29, 2012 2:03 PM

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LordofHomo said:
symbv said:
MasterMeNL said:
It's official, they renamed this show to Much-Love Alternative: Total Harem.

Interesting that you know there is a harem being built in Total Eclipse only now.

Secondaries and/or people who figured the show was only going to be MATURE, EDGY GORE from the first two episodes. Not that TE

ZetaGanja said:
I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)



Wow thanks! (i don't know anything about Muv Luv Universe other than these 17 episodes so sorry if im not well informed)
Oct 29, 2012 3:12 PM

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Last 7 eps, hope it picks up nxt wk

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Oct 29, 2012 4:16 PM
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i'm only dissapointed because i didn't see yui fighting after ep2 :( i really wanted to see her improvement since the collapse of kyoto.
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So is Yuuya this dense on purpose?
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This was one the better episodes in a while. I loved the tender moment that Cryska and Yuuya shared in the park. I'm curious though if Yuuya doesn't recognize that Cryska is falling in love with him or if he is intentionally trying to redirect her focus so he can get closer to Yui. Either way they came dangerously close to making a real connection. Looking forward to what follows.

Speaking of Yui, "So you like carrots?" I guess she is new to small talk. Plus I should be relieved that shes finally trying to make her move. And the way that Yuuya grabbed her hand as they ran out of the bar! I was hoping that Yuuya had something more substantial than sword fighting lessons that he wanted to ask Yui, but an in's an in.

Cui was actually adorable this episode. Shes really starting to win me over, if only that her personality is 180 degrees from the other girls. However I highly doubt that she stands a serious shot with Yui. I would like to see him end up with Cryska to be honest. I think he would be good for her and might get her and Inia out of that toxic, commie environment. I'm interested in who others think will be Yuuya's girl.


i'd like to be cryska but now i'm feeling sorry for Cui because she looked like she really likes him, after "crying" at the end of the episode
Oct 29, 2012 4:39 PM

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Usually when there are multiple love interest I will definitely hate one of them. But I just can't seem to hate Yui, Cryska, Innia and Cui. They are all very loveable. Although I hope Yuuya will end up with either Yui or Cryska, a really hard choice....
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LordofHomo said:

As for the ending, that's all up in the air. The novels are to be concluded with the VN when that comes out next year, so the staff have to find a way of making a satisfying ending that suits both fans of the franchise and anime only fans. It's a bit of a pickle, really as they run the risk of spoiling the VN, or they bring out an anime original end which could be rather weak.


I thought MLTE novel which this anime is based on is already completed??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muv-Luv#Novels
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This has gone i little off course, wasnt it suppose to be about beating the beta? now its a full blown Harem. country vs country when did this go G-Gundam status?



also Yuuya is in there........ Kinda.
Oct 29, 2012 5:46 PM
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wow can yuuya be any stupider and thick headed loll cant believe he diidnt notice any of the girls feelings lol
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And dont get me wrong,i love those as much as any ordinary anime lover but seriosly this anime started as action blood and gore fighting mecha anime and became harem and romance.Da fuq are they doing with anime? :/


lol totally agree, As much as I enjoy the cute tsundere romance moments, The turn out of this anime would probably have been alot better if they just kept it as an undertone with the War and Mecha/gore conflict as the primary focus, since there was potential. But I guess its called Muv Luv for a reason =P

it seems to me that it's following the same pattern as Alternative (VN) shit will go down sooner than later... and when i say shit will go down, it will go down HEAVILY

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So if the F-22 Raptor (lol) is in here mechanized what about an SU-47 Bekut? Or better yet, a PAK F/A?

given the setting (in which air fighting has been rendered useless due to the laser classes) almost EVERY fighter jet irl was made as a TSF, as a matter off fact, the twins are on a SU-37 Terminator
Berkut goes here (TREAD LIGHTLY, the rest of the wiki is a spoiler galore)

ZetaGanja said:
I have a question for those of you who are [a lot] more into the Muv Luv universe: How did the Beta get to Earth did they ride on meteors/astroids or can they survive through the atmosphere (sorry i might have missed this)
the bastards are pretty resilient, they can survive in any known environment, underwater and no-atmosphere even (Mars and the moon have hives), so it doesnt really matter HOW they got here (in fact, i dont remember that precise part being covered on the VN, might be wrong tho)

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This has gone i little off course, wasnt it suppose to be about beating the beta? now its a full blown Harem. country vs country when did this go G-Gundam status?
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seemed a bit slow, more so with all that backtracking from ep 16, that time would have been better used on explaining more of the twins... :/ 4/5
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I SUPPORT YUI! The harem grows episode by episode. Yuuya is really THIS blunt-headed. Dang, I think Yui should get Yuuya since it feels more canon because she was the main in the first episode, thus I find YxY more canon, and I prefer canon couples over the fan-made. Yuuya's harem is quite unique for me, as though I support Yui most, that doesn't mean in this harem, I don't think some of the other couples are just as good, I mean this harem is unique because it really is harder to decide just what couple to support.

YxC = Cute
YxY = Cute
YxI = Weird-ish for me, large age difference couples seem awkward to me
YxC(I'm guessing on the green haired one) = Pressure, No lack of feeling awkward

This harem is definitely well-done if you ask me to put me in this rare position.
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Seems that Cui has acknowledged Yui as a rival.... :3

Battle shall commence to fight for Yuuya's love... !!!
Oct 29, 2012 9:14 PM

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I thought MLTE novel which this anime is based on is already completed??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muv-Luv#Novels

The English wiki page is not updated. There is a 5th volume published in 2011.
And no it is not yet completed. The novel just stopped having new volumes published since 2011.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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NickyCharisma said:
This was one the better episodes in a while. I loved the tender moment that Cryska and Yuuya shared in the park. I'm curious though if Yuuya doesn't recognize that Cryska is falling in love with him or if he is intentionally trying to redirect her focus so he can get closer to Yui. Either way they came dangerously close to making a real connection. Looking forward to what follows.

Speaking of Yui, "So you like carrots?" I guess she is new to small talk. Plus I should be relieved that shes finally trying to make her move. And the way that Yuuya grabbed her hand as they ran out of the bar! I was hoping that Yuuya had something more substantial than sword fighting lessons that he wanted to ask Yui, but an in's an in.

Cui was actually adorable this episode. Shes really starting to win me over, if only that her personality is 180 degrees from the other girls. However I highly doubt that she stands a serious shot with Yui. I would like to see him end up with Cryska to be honest. I think he would be good for her and might get her and Inia out of that toxic, commie environment. I'm interested in who others think will be Yuuya's girl.


i'd like to be cryska but now i'm feeling sorry for Cui because she looked like she really likes him, after "crying" at the end of the episode


Honestly I wouldn't hate it if Yuuya did end up with Cui. Maybe not my first choice, but I really like her spunk.

At this point I can't predict how they will end the show. I really don't want them to kill off all but one of the girls. If any unnecessary deaths happen it will seriously hamper my overall enjoyment of the show. I understand that the VNs are dark and all but this is a side story. Make Yuuya choose one girl, don't kill the rest off leaving a "default" love interest.
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Needs less Harem.
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Yuuya you better go for dat harem ending!

speaking of ending, that new one was so simple.
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Come on Yuuya, teach Cryska the ways of love...Ecchi way. XD
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Come on Yuuya, teach Cryska the ways of love...Ecchi way. XD

I have a feeling that Yuuya was honest in what he told Cryska when she told him about her "strange feeling". Just like some harem anime, this guy is a thick guy when it comes to romance (and apparently he is not even interested given Cui's being so frank with him).
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
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Come on Yuuya, teach Cryska the ways of love...Ecchi way. XD

I have a feeling that Yuuya was honest in what he told Cryska when she told him about her "strange feeling". Just like some harem anime, this guy is a thick guy when it comes to romance (and apparently he is not even interested given Cui's being so frank with him).


He's not interested in women but TSFs.

Yuuya is MECHASEXUAL.

lololol
Oct 30, 2012 4:07 AM

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I smell jealousy. Cui hanging onto Yuuya? :) She also wants a honeymoon. Lololol. I liked her fighting skills.

Cui = jealous.
Inia = cute
Cryska = serious
Yui = tsundere

*Cryska = yandere
That's what I fell from her O.o
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symbv said:
amc9988 said:

I thought MLTE novel which this anime is based on is already completed??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muv-Luv#Novels

The English wiki page is not updated. There is a 5th volume published in 2011.
And no it is not yet completed. The novel just stopped having new volumes published since 2011.


I see, then is the fifth volume is the last volume? If it is I was hoping they would wait until the novel is completed because I really hate it when companies adapt incomplete novels because the anime ending always feels... incomplete? Anyway, if they wanted to do an original ending I hope it's going to be a good one.

Btw I'm sure this episode was made because they want us to fall in love with the characters so that they can make us more despair when killing off all the characters. You know that it always calm before the storm lol
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Even with the low expectation of the sakuga / animation for TE, this is still unforgivable
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
Even with the low expectation of the sakuga / animation for TE, this is still unforgivable


LMAO i guess the main artist took the day off and they let and 8 year old do the animation :D
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I think this show is great,so what if theres harem.
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Even with the low expectation of the sakuga / animation for TE, this is still unforgivable


lmao, like I said earlier, great QUALITY with the faces this episode. Seems to be a recurring phenomenon.
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uwa, the quality of this anime is going really down and down each more episode ~_~

i found this ep really poor in animation (some ugly face too -,-), and story is as said before muv luv total harem o m g <.<;

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Hydnlife said:
This has gone i little off course, wasnt it suppose to be about beating the beta?


I swear I see this comment in every TE discussion ever. No.
Not even the main series of VNs is about beating the BETA, it never was. Even if the latter half of Alternative has enough aliens to fill the needs of the whole Starship Troopers franchise at once.

Total Eclipse is just a spinoff in Top Gun spirit. I don't recall that movie's point was about fighting Soviets either.
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Hydnlife said:
This has gone i little off course, wasnt it suppose to be about beating the beta?


I swear I see this comment in every TE discussion ever. No.
Not even the main series of VNs is about beating the BETA, it never was. Even if the latter half of Alternative has enough aliens to fill the needs of the whole Starship Troopers franchise at once.

Total Eclipse is just a spinoff in Top Gun spirit. I don't recall that movie's point was about fighting Soviets either.


I'm really glad you compared it to Top Gun. When I tried to sell a friend on the series I told him that it was "Top Gun crossed with Blue Gender."
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I'm really glad you compared it to Top Gun. When I tried to sell a friend on the series I told him that it was "Top Gun crossed with Blue Gender."

Well, it's pretty hard not to make the comparison. Novel readers have been touting about it from the start too.
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I'm really glad you compared it to Top Gun. When I tried to sell a friend on the series I told him that it was "Top Gun crossed with Blue Gender."

Well, it's pretty hard not to make the comparison. Novel readers have been touting about it from the start too.


Yeah... I'm pretty new to this whole internet thing... I didn't even know that this show existed until 3 weeks ago.
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It's Infinite Stratos all over again.

I love it
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Terrible episode, I'm finally dropping this bad show.


lol, a bit late haha, I considered it in the island arc but watching shitty anime makes me enjoy the really good things much more.

Too bad this started promising gore and action and shit and it turned into a generic harem


this anime isn't shitty, you just don't like animes like this
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i'd really like to see Idar V.S. US 65th battalion xD
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Episode 18 Preview stills :
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Well, the harem is really starting to form now. Too much drama, not enough action.

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I wonder why Yuuya is even talking with that girl Sharon Heim who actually dumped him for another one - Leon Kuze. That bitch it seems is very tricky and changes the boys as her gloves. Yuuya should not even talk to her after everything happened. I hope in the fight Stella will beat all shit out of her.
And I hope in actual fight all this Infinity Squad will be raped by BETA.
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dude's got a harem real quick.

chinese chick is amusing for a change of pace.

The russians aren't bad either.

Yui is too obvious of a pick and still annoying.

But uh ... how about that plot? What about the aliens or whatever?
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People should understand that this arc is a development arc that takes place very far from the frontline, there's no way for BETA to suddenly show up. Expect some BETA actions when the OP-ED changes.

This is a laid-back side story of Muv-Luv, afterall. For much more intense sidestory, pray for Muv Luv Alternative : Schwarzesmarken adaptation.

...Or the main series adaptation, which actually also has a lot of harem situations...which usually could be considered as long deathflags.
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...Or the main series adaptation, which actually also has a lot of harem situations...which usually could be considered as long deathflags.

I can already see all the "where are all the aliens" posts all the way through Unlimited and beginning of Alternative.
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