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| What a plot twist... M. Night would have been put to shame. Trigger just saved this anime, from being called a "kids' show". But regardless of that, i get the feeling that the next 3 episodes are going to be pretty dope. I don't think Akko can get her power back though |
Sury said: WTF I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS LEVEL OF DESPAIR!!!  Well this ep was on point. There is no plot holes there is the plot twist |
When the truth hit hard |
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Ligerleon89 said: GenesisAria said: Thinking about it, if what Croix and Ursula said is true, then all that stuff that came out of people's bodies is their energy, their magical potential. I thought it hit me when I saw young Akko, and a fairy like being coming out of her body as energy. Then people brought up that Diana was also there, if you kept watching, Andrew talked about Diana not being able to use magic for a time Episode 20, if I'm correct. Everyone is saying "Diana recovered her magic" where was the evidence of that? I don't remember that happening. So far as i can tell, there's no proof that any of that actually happened, the "reduction of magic" could be a farce and Akko was just never able to fly in the first place, and Ursula is just blaming herself. If what Croix says is true, about emotions being the source of magic, then magic should be inexhaustible... What we have here is a Monsters Inc. Just power everything with laughs. |
GenesisAriaJun 5, 2017 12:55 PM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power.  “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
Ligerleon89 said: For Edit 2: not yet, but she'll find out sooner or later next episode. Zocky and his last comment I agree with. If so, Diana's never figured why/how she lost her magic, huh? Considering she's some kind of bookworm expert, it would seem like plot convenience but it's possible. |
| It's strange how after this revelation people still see Croix as a villain. Croix is the same as Chariot was years ago with her using other methods to save the magic with the difference that Chariot reach the failure with her plans and Croix don't reached at the moment. Both of them are gray characters, it's not like Croix is "evil" or Chariot is "good". People still don't see this. usernome said: Even though Chariot stole Akko's magical potential, she's still able to cast some spells, learn fish langague and use/unlock the Shiny Rod. That might mean Akko has a HUGE potential and there might still be some magic inside her. Thinking she's those limitations, it's quite impressive everything she did so far. Also, the line "the secret to magic is a believing heart" (which now has also an awful meaning) or whatsoever surely is important in this story. I guess it's time Akko's friends start putting some belief in her (because she probably lost it all). EDIT: Well, I guess the last word has something to do with forgiveness, overcoming disbelief/doubt and friendship (which is something Chariot lost). EDIT 2: Also, has Diana known Akko was probably out-of-magic? No, Ursula was reject by the Shiny Road after she uses the spell. It's because of this that Akko is capable for using the Shiny Road. |
brzzcodeJun 5, 2017 1:29 PM
caio_ken said: No, Ursula was reject by the Shiny Road after she uses the spell. It's because of this that Akko is capable for using the Shiny Road. I was talking about the things Akko can do even though she lost her magic. |
| I don't see Croix like a villain, she has the same goal Chariot, Akko and Diana have. Her answer. though, is wrong but she can't see it yet. |
| lol Chariot was draining magic out of people to create firework , no wonder she is not liked |
| holy fuck wtf just happened. WHOS THE REAL VILLAIN HERE? |
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| In my opinion, i think after Chariot fail to find the last word she came up with Dream Fuel Spirit spell maybe force or break the seal and release the magic (who maybe is like Goku's spirit bomb). Right now Croix try to do the same think but with negative's emotions. About the moon could be the seal or the magic are in the moon (like Symphogear or Maihime)? Could Diana's mom use an ancient spell for cure or saved her daughter? Or maybe she just gave her magic to Diana. Alot of question after this curve ball lol. I can't wait for next episode. |
| We knew something went wrong with Chariot a long time ago but I didn't expect this being the reason why Akko sucks at magic ... even though that doesn't make that much sense when you see where Diana stands now and above all, dreams and passion are still there in Akko's heart, so why not the related magic? People saying Croix and Chariot are the same "grey" characters. I do not see it that way. Croix is about to bring two countries back to war. It's a tiny little bit different from stealing magic energy from kids, in my opinion. @blfan saying Diana "never had struggles"? Seriously? She lost magic, had to get it back, learnt everything until knowing even better than her teachers, had to help others and fulfill their expectations and fight against her own family. Akko had it easier, she only "learnt" she had to work hard after she entered the school some few months ago. The "hard fate" that hit Akko when entering school is something Diana got in the face as she was still a little kid. The only advantage that Diana had was being surrounded by books (at home and in her room), but still, books are only an advantage when you read them. |
blfan said: I know that, I am saying what if she never had struggles, how would they effect her personality. I was talking about OVA Diana, not this one. ok, sorry, I understand now what you meant. |
| I don't know who the villain is, if there's one, but I think Croix will end up doing something very bad when she tries to open the Grand Triskelion, or whatever it's called, with the "fake" Shiny Rod and that will be the final arc. No villain is needed here, if it's a message about improving yourself through hardwork, friendship, patience, love and so, you just need imature people doing things wrong to get to the climax. |
| So then Diana regained her magic by not believing anymore/putting her dreams aside? Also, if Croix is getting magic through emotions, does that still mean those people's magic get taken away as well? |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Zelev said: So then Diana regained her magic by not believing anymore/putting her dreams aside? Also, if Croix is getting magic through emotions, does that still mean those people's magic get taken away as well? By the show's point of view until now, I think Diana got her magic back by believing and putting a lot of effort into it. She didn't put her dreams aside, she went to Luna Nova, she kept Chariot's card, deep inside, she's still believing, imo. I think Croix doesn't steal people's magic, she just amplifies and drain their "bad" emotions. But I could be wrong in both cases. |
| OH CHARIOT... GIVE ME YOUR STREEENNNGGGTTTHHHH... CHARIOOOOOOTTT!!! |
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| Was Chariot's magic also stolen by the Dream Fuel, at least partially? Unintentionally, as it's supposed to steal the magic of everyone in the area, or as a side-effect or even by Croix? I remember Croix saying in some other episode that Chariot was much weaker. Also, Croix holds a real grudge against Chariot, wanting to crush all of her dreams/hopes. It's clear, rewatching the first episode, they planned the shows together, maybe when Chariot realized what was happening and decided to quit, Croix got really angry and took part of Chariot's power somehow. Or maybe it was some kind of punishment for misusing the Shiny Rod. EDIT: Maybe Ursula also lost her magic and regained it, just like Diana. It may relate to the reason she became a teacher: in Luna Nova's library, she would have access to countless books to find a way to fully re-learn magic and/or correct her mistakes. |
usernomeJun 5, 2017 7:50 PM
| [quote=Not_Important message=50992833][quote=Dracom message=50991883] Not_Important said: I could see from a mile that Ursula / Chariot would end up revealing her secret in the worst possible way, there was a shit tonne of foreshadowing to back it up. The moment she saw Croix flying to the city and went out on a hurry to follow her it was pretty much obvious that there would be some confrontation between the two. And then Akko started following the cube things around the city so I immediatly caught on that she would have to be saved by Chariot, thus having the secret unveiled. The episode was executed marvelously because that's what Trigger does best, they take cliches and execute them in the best possible way. Instead of going with the usual "You lied to me, I hate you" with Akko, they revealed the plot twist that it was her idol's fault that she can't use magic. I was never touting myself as a anime connoisseur here, I was just legitimately surprised that no one caught on to the foreshadowing in this episode. everyone and their mother can see that there will be confrontation and it'll be a bad one. you're not the only one who expect that things gonna happen Troll-kun. what they didnt expect is that Akko cant use magic properly because of her idol, Chariot. but, of course someone may know this twist beforehand if that person fly to japan, go to the anime studio and steal the script. XD |
ptrd-41Jun 5, 2017 8:05 PM
 BAD GIRL Chariot, bad girl :( But I forgive her, she's my waifu after all, and I know she feels terrible for the wrong things she did in the past. She need catarsis ASAP. |
akiba-keiJun 5, 2017 8:59 PM
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ActualKnight said: Everyone knows what the last word means Is it "Rise, Shenron"? |
| Sieg Zeon! |
Not_Important said: ptrd-41 said: everyone and their mother can see that there will be confrontation and it'll be a bad one. you're not the only one who expect that things gonna happen Troll-kun. what they didnt expect is that Akko cant use magic properly because of her idol, Chariot. but, of course someone may know this twist beforehand if that person fly to japan, go to the anime studio and steal the script. XD Me, a troll? Hardly. You and the guy who first replied to me though, you're both either bad at trolling, incredibly butthurt about other people's opinions or lack reading comprehension. from what i see, you are the one that got butthurt because in the end you're not the only one that expect bad things to happen. so sorry to tell you that you're not the only one that has that "perks" :D |
| I feel so betrayed now... A lot of things make sense though |
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j0x said: Objurgo said: Okay but what about Diana? She was at the same Shiny Chariot show as Atsuko and yet she's a prodigy? watch episode 20, Diana lost her magic when they are children according to Andrew and Akko conversation but for some passionate hardwork she regain her magic ability so Diana has the answer on how Akko can regain her magic potential Ah yes, I had forgotten about that little tid bit.. Thanks for clearing that up for me |
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| didn't expect this plot twist, kinda sad. Trigger just drop an atomic bomb. Though I feel like there's something more with this big revelation, like what's the reason for Chariot doing that kind of thing, dang! can't wait for the next episode I wonder what's the seventh word meant. |
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elior1 said: ursula lost her magic due to the pollen in the previous episode True, she lost her ability to fly. But Croix said she was weaker way before that. It was around episode 13, I think. It may also be the case she's slowly losing her power. |
usernomeJun 6, 2017 5:16 AM
| Hmmmm. Interesting. So Akko sucking at magic has an actual proper explanation! Nevertheless, Diana went through the same thing, and she was able to regain use of her magic (Through sheer effort or whatever), so Akko sucking even after trying so hard up till now is still pitiable. Well, a handicap is a handicap I guess. And Chariot using devious means to gather mana. I wanna know what led her to do something rather desperate and deceptive? Maybe it's tied to her inability to unlocking the 7th word. Regardless, I'm pretty sure there's a good explanation behind it, as Chariot wasn't evil. |
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