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Feb 2, 2009 4:56 PM

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mrjpark said:
LMAO. Betray them? Yeah, I guess she "betrayed" them... if you think "lying to your friends in order to save their lives and pretty much all of humanity" is betrayal. I won't call Fatina a bitch, because she really isn't. She's just a dumb slut who goes for the biggest dick she can find. I don't know how much of the first season you guys remember, but Fatina was just the dumb slut hanging off of Neeba at every second because he was the "hero." She treated Jil like shit because she thought he was some pussy. Kayaa was nice to him and they grew to love each other. Kayaa actually cared for her group and made her decision so that no one would die. Neeba was a different case because she didn't care for that douchebag and didn't find the need to warn a faggot like him who would betray his own brother. How do Kayaa's actions make her a saviour while Neeba becomes a bitch? Not only did Kayaa know what the entire situation and what she was getting herself into, she's damn hot. Neeba is a greedy faggot that doesn't know shit.

Now onto Fatina. I already summarized her role for season 1 in that last paragraph (dumb slut). Now for season 2. Now that their love interests (Kayaa/Neeba) are gone, Fatina needs a dick to suck, but no one wants her anymore. As climbing isn't a necessity anymore she (along with everyone else) has no job to return to so they're all doing their own shit (I'm pretty fucking surprised that she didn't become a prostitute, maybe it's illegal). Jil's being a heart-broken emo-fag, but Fatina doesn't care because she's really craving the dick. Once Ki comes into the story, Jil gets his balls back and decides to go back to get Kayaa and save her. Fatina just now realizes how much Jil actually loves Kayaa, so she decides to go nekomimi in hopes that this is what it takes to get him to bone her. Her goal is to bone him before they go up into the tower and hopefully make him forget about Kayaa by the amazing sex, but she forgets that he's the younger brother of a faggot and has this resistance to things like that in his genes.

My prediction? Jil will save Kayaa and they will have an amazing life together (death?). The second Fatina sees Neeba and his zomgt3hmuscl3s, she will continue being a dumb slut and start chasing his mandango again and forget all about Jil and why in the world she's wearing fucking cat ears.

Basically, Kayaa pwns the dumb slut Fatina.


Thank you for summarizing what I've been trying to say since my first post! I thought I was the only one that noticed Fantina jump from one strong (buff) person to the next. She's your typical high school girl that goes from one popular guy to the next.
Feb 2, 2009 4:59 PM

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Lol...dumb slut...I think she's the most at her mind from the party...she's skeptic and has not to high hopes about seeing Neeba and Kaaya alive, but even tough she folowed Jil...that's the sign that she's in love with him, not just tagging along with the actual hero...
Kaaya's betrayal:
etray them? Yeah, I guess she "betrayed" them... if you think "lying to your friends in order to save their lives and pretty much all of humanity"

In order to save them? Ads you see her intentions were wrong because pretty much everyone from the previous group is climbing the upper tower...just a half year later.
The thing that was not too sweet from her is that she gave them no choice. Just when the party's serious loss and great sorrow shepulled them even deeper. If she explained that somehow before she left or she left the choice to follow her at the hands of the Climbers then we can't speak about betrayal...she's the direct cause of Jil's depression and pretty much made everyone in despair somehow(Maybe Melt is an exeption as overly selfish person).
Kaaya x Jil ending is more possible now, but remember: we only seen 4 episodes! There's much to happen(personaly a prefer the Fatina x Jil pairing because i like Fatina's personality more...)
Feb 2, 2009 5:04 PM

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I'm quite sure it will be a Jil x Kaaya ending.

I hate Kaaya's personality so I like Fatina better. neither of them are that great though
Feb 2, 2009 6:53 PM
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So you're saying she should've asked them, "Please come with me to save my father from becoming an immortal tyrant and ruining the lives of the rest of the world. Oh, but you'll have to die to do this, so I'd rather you'd not come." OF COURSE Jil would have still gone with her. As she didn't want him to die, she just didn't tell him; there was no way for her to know her already dead descendant would come back and open up the tower for them. Your argument is GROUNDLESS. Kayaa wins.
Feb 2, 2009 7:26 PM

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Somebody needs Prozac a timeout...
Its cool if you wanna have Kaaya's babies, but don't bash Fatina/future mother of my babies. She's only doing what people have been doing for centuries - looking for a mate that gives the best genes to her kids.
Feb 2, 2009 11:08 PM

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excuse me but dead ppl don't give birth to kids...If Fatina's feelings was that shallow she didn't choose to go up the Tower(I mean the Upper Tower).

And Kaaya just have said her intentions and reasons of why she left them just before she done it...
Feb 2, 2009 11:09 PM

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rawfulmao said:
this is a little off topic, but imo Fatina deserves a hotter character display picture.

sorry bro, last one sucked even more
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Feb 2, 2009 11:14 PM

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Neverender said:
rawfulmao said:
this is a little off topic, but imo Fatina deserves a hotter character display picture.

sorry bro, last one sucked even more


darn, what a shame. I hope a moderator'll eventually put up a good quality one.
Feb 2, 2009 11:15 PM

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dude if you've got a better one ask for it to be changed here
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Feb 2, 2009 11:32 PM
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rawfulmao said:
Somebody needs Prozac a timeout...
Its cool if you wanna have Kaaya's babies, but don't bash Fatina/future mother of my babies. She's only doing what people have been doing for centuries - looking for a mate that gives the best genes to her kids.


Too bad Fatina's a goner too now that she followed the scent of Jil's cock to the upper tower. Unless KAYAA somehow manages to save her.
Feb 2, 2009 11:33 PM

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Neverender said:
dude if you've got a better one ask for it to be changed here


oh dang nice, I'll try to submit a good one.
Feb 2, 2009 11:39 PM

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fatina... kaaya.... I want both!

Fatina wins for sexiness, though. :)

I am a banana.
Feb 3, 2009 5:26 AM
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Fatina ftw.
Feb 3, 2009 7:06 PM
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Yes Fatina does fuck the world. Because of her character traits I mentioned before. xD
Feb 3, 2009 9:37 PM

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Don't be hatin'.
Btw nice signature saka, haha spoon rapist.
Feb 12, 2009 9:16 PM
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Oh come on, what's with all the hatin' on Neeba and Kaaya(They should get together by the way)? I agree what they each did to Jil and Fatina is a Bitch move but I don't get the whole "Once a Bitch always a Bitch".
I personally have been wanting Jil and Fatina to get together since season one. And though I do see this ending with Jil and Kaaya, I also remember his dream sequence from the very first episode(Anyone else remember?) It's starting to look to me that his dream is coming true. In a weird anti-dream kinda way. So I'll keep my fingers crossed:D OH and has anyone "counted" the betrayals that Jil has endured thus far? I remember Ki saying he'd endure 3 but have only counted 2(Kaaya and Neeba).
Feb 13, 2009 4:19 PM

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Fatina! Fatina! And once more Fatina! I didn't really notice her in the first season, but I loved her immedietely in the second. She must end up with Jil! :)
Feb 13, 2009 9:54 PM

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I like Kaaya, because there might be a reason why she had to betray them..........maybe to protect them?? I believe she's not a bad person.>_< But Fatina is also, okay^^
Feb 13, 2009 11:39 PM

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The difference in hotness between Fatina and Kaaya just trumps anything Kaaya can do. Plus, Kaaya seems content smuttin' around with Neeber these days.
Feb 15, 2009 12:12 PM

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fatina is also mine favorite character..she better than kaaya in every way XD
and Jill is still dreamin when fatina is attacked by a tentacle monster ...maybe neeba too(if he watch to first season :P ) I think first season better than second...
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Feb 16, 2009 7:54 AM

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I was wondering for a while - in the ED, theres Kaaya on all this colourful paintings right? But on the birthday cake, is there Kaaya or Fatina together with Jil?
Feb 18, 2009 12:32 PM

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Fatina! no contest :P
Sep 14, 2009 2:31 AM

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This is the first or one of the VERY few times I didn't want the Main character ending up with the girl it seems he's setup to be with it.

Fatina is more awesome, better looking, better character, everything tigerz said. And everyone else here.

I really hope Kaaya dies, what she did was unforgivable.

But it seems they haven't even kissed yet!!! :(

Fatina x Jil !!!

And if it doesn't end that way...they should do what the creators of Clannad did. Give us a 1 episode alternate reality of them together to satisfy us fans , lol.
Sep 30, 2009 2:42 AM
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excuse me?! DUH!!!
FATINA'S IN LOVE WITH NEEBA, NOT JIL!!!
for everyone's sake, it's just your interpretations or whatsoever-imaginations that she's in love with jil..
YAH, SHE JUST CONFESSED WITH THE WRONG GUY, GET IT??

kaaya x jil
fatina x neeba


yay for fumiko orikasa a.k.a KUCHIKI RUKIA ^^
Dec 13, 2009 1:58 AM
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Anyone knows where I can find official artwork of Fatina?
Jan 24, 2010 2:37 PM

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Kaaya is a bitch :/ JILxFATINA!!!! <33

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Feb 21, 2010 4:32 PM
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Have you guys even finished the show?
Jul 28, 2010 11:09 AM
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wow, this discussion is all over the place. interpretations, misinterpretations, feelings based on personal experiences. From some comments, i wonder if people are even watching the same show? I won't even bother with my own interpretations, i figure i got a good grip on what's going on.

I wouldn't mind a JilxFatina ending, but since this is anime and they usually don't stray from the Romance expectations, i fully expect JilxKaaya or JilxNo One and that's ok with me. In Kaaya's defense though, a live Jil is better than a dead Jil.
Jan 22, 2013 10:57 PM

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Rodaa said:
First off, I'm fully aware of the necroing of a 2 year old thread and I apologize for that.

BIG SPOILER ALERT. Seriously, if you haven't completed the show, don't even glance at this post beyond this point! You have been warned!


I totaly agree, especially about that part "Why am I annoyed about a mediocre anime show for kids...?". I didn't even like the show very match and still i get pised of about ending.Fatina was probably only reason why i watch the show thill the end.
The real world is past the virtual world is future.



Jan 27, 2013 3:57 AM
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still pissed off at the end. and the only hope for me watching season 2 is for jil and fatina to hook up
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Jun 21, 2013 4:29 AM

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DeathfireD said:

Fantina on the other hand loved Neeba because he was powerful and cool. She rejected Jil at the very start because he was weak and uncool. Now that Neeba ditches her, whats she do? She jumps to the strongest guy she knows who happens to be Neebas brother. If anything Fantina is the bitch. Jil got betrayed yet he still has strong feelings for Kaaya. Fantina got betrayed yet she wants to hop in the sack with Jil. Not to mention she constantly tries to get him to forget about Kaaya.

Your point? Any guy can confirm this, it doesn't matter how you get the girl, as long as she is with you in the end. Who cares if she liked Neeba first. Girls naturally like cool handsome guys at first. What else do they have to judge you on at first? But when she realized she was wrong about Neeba and she realized what a great guy Jil was (which she did before Neeba's betrayal) she fell for him instead. If anything, Fatina would learn from her mistake with Neeba and be more guarded with Jil. She was never really a bad person, she was just foolish and now she is wiser.


I'm going to get hate comments for this but, in the end she's still a used napkin

rawfulmao said:
Somebody needs Prozac a timeout...
Its cool if you wanna have Kaaya's babies, but don't bash Fatina/future mother of my babies. She's only doing what people have been doing for centuries - looking for a mate that gives the best genes to her kids.


Sorry man like I said before....Used napkin
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Apr 5, 2016 9:50 AM
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Okay lets get a little real with how a relationship work. After Jil spent however much time in the towers with kaaya we can assume its significantly less than 6 months they make it to the top. Then kaaya realizes that she cares for him, suddenly kissing him before their final fight. Thats their entire romantic relationship. Before that point in time Jil was not aware of her feelings or even fully aware of his own. So then she betrays him and abandons him along with his brother. Afterwards Jil goes through over 6 months and I cant put enough emphasis on this over 6 months of depression. During this time Fatina takes an interest in him, cares for him, and even goes out with him. He even acknowledges that he can't continue to climb without her when deciding to go to the tower of fantasy. Kaaya was simply his first crush he never developed any romantic relationship with her. Yet, he did develope one with Fatina. She took an interest in him because she was attracted to him which she admitted on the first episode season 1. She took a healthy interest in a nice guy who protected her and saved her life. After their lives, dreams, and hopes were destroyed by Kaaya and Neeba they found comfort in being together not for just a short amount of time but for over half a year. If they never went back to the tower no doubt Jil would've settled down with Fatina who wanted to forget about the people who hurt them. Unfortunately they did go back and it was somewhat implied that he was with Kaaya by the end of the series. Anime tends to get love wrong alot, you don't abandon a 6 month relationship for someone who suddenly decided they loved you and abandoned you within that same day they confessed. I was disappointed by the romance in this series maybe you have to be older to get what Im saying but it being even remotely implied he choose kaaya at the end was total bullshit and unfair to Fatina and not at all how love actually works.
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GoddessRick said:
Okay lets get a little real with how a relationship work. After Jil spent however much time in the towers with kaaya we can assume its significantly less than 6 months they make it to the top. Then kaaya realizes that she cares for him, suddenly kissing him before their final fight. Thats their entire romantic relationship. Before that point in time Jil was not aware of her feelings or even fully aware of his own. So then she betrays him and abandons him along with his brother. Afterwards Jil goes through over 6 months and I cant put enough emphasis on this over 6 months of depression. During this time Fatina takes an interest in him, cares for him, and even goes out with him. He even acknowledges that he can't continue to climb without her when deciding to go to the tower of fantasy. Kaaya was simply his first crush he never developed any romantic relationship with her. Yet, he did develope one with Fatina. She took an interest in him because she was attracted to him which she admitted on the first episode season 1. She took a healthy interest in a nice guy who protected her and saved her life. After their lives, dreams, and hopes were destroyed by Kaaya and Neeba they found comfort in being together not for just a short amount of time but for over half a year. If they never went back to the tower no doubt Jil would've settled down with Fatina who wanted to forget about the people who hurt them. Unfortunately they did go back and it was somewhat implied that he was with Kaaya by the end of the series. Anime tends to get love wrong alot, you don't abandon a 6 month relationship for someone who suddenly decided they loved you and abandoned you within that same day they confessed. I was disappointed by the romance in this series maybe you have to be older to get what Im saying but it being even remotely implied he choose kaaya at the end was total bullshit and unfair to Fatina and not at all how love actually works.


This though... thats quite a lot of writing, lol

But seriously, the relationship between Jil and Kaaya wasn't really much, as much as I like Kaaya, I believe that Fatina deserves to be with Jil, because I just feel they had gone through more together. I mean, Kaaya's intent for ditching Jil and the others was not bad, but it just feels like Fatina has done more and has built up more of a relationship towards Jil. Its just kind of unfair to Fatina as @GoddessRick has mentioned, but I guess its just how it is in anime...
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I shift on Fatina and Jil, Fatina got used by Neeba for his own ambition but still Fatina support Jil and never betray him. But Kaaya betrayed Jil without second thought and she never trust Jil in helping her in her real motives.
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I don't know if it is only me or what but I couldn't choose to ship for fatina or kaaya. At first I couldn't bring myself to like fatina since she always look down upon Jil at the beginning.I surely hope that Fatina die since I really hate her. But later she treat Jil better. Then Kaaya started being a bitch. Well actually sometime I think that Kaaya should die and let Jil be with Fatina. Until the end, I don't myself either on who should I ship since both have their good and bad point.
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To be honest I know I am super late as when this show aired I was a small kid who didn't know how to use mobile or computer that good .
To be true I am happy with JilxKaya but as well as kinda sad because Fatina got dumped twice.....Fatina tried to use Jil to overcome incident that happened between her and Neeba which is kinda like Twilight Saga where Jake got dumped after Bella got Edward back and here too would have been same story.....
And my fellow otaku we all have seen Naruto where sasuke betrayed Naruto and especially Sakura multiple times but ends up with Sakura and everyone loved sasuke as per fandom but here I feel sad as Kaya was trying to prevent Jil to go to mythical tower as she thought Jil would end up dying....
Which would make us sad...:-(
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