| This is quite the intelligent conversation. Le sigh... quarrels about licensing always seem to degenerate, but I've never seen it happen this quickly... In all seriousness, fans should start their own dubbing/subbing/licensing company. Employ the fansubbers. Get big enough, and they can hire actors for dubbing. Just need to legitimize the fansubbing scene. |
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| I'm in more of a meh mood about this. A few years ago, I might have really cared, but since I can find it on the net or have friends who can pirate it for me, it doesn't really affect me. The only thing I'm waiting for is FMA2, but that won't be out for a while anyway. |
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| Before further misconceptions start flying around... Seto no Hanayome has NOT been licensed. At least not according to wiki and Animesuki's license database (both of which are pretty up to date). 2ndly, i remember someone seeing if Vampire Knight will be one of the shows... just my thought, but no. At Comic-con, the Viz panel played a clip of Vampire Knight although they didn't formally announce that it was licensed. Considering it's probably the most popular shoujo title out right now AND it's under their manga label... Viz is probably the front runner for VK. ntHai said: My guesses are: Hajime no Ippo 2nd, Higurashi Rei, Axis Powers Hetalia and FMA2. First they've got to license Higurashi Kai. But I probably won't surprised by a really early FMA2 announcement. What do I see being licensed? First off, all the shows that they sent C&Ds out to... soo - Soul Eater - Katekyo Hitman Reborn - Evangelion 1.0 Followed by pending sequels - Higurashi Kai - Shikabane; Kuro personally, I wish they'd take "ef - a tale of memories"... but alas that is a pipedream... |
| After reading all of these "FUNi sux for licensing stuff" comments, my goodness, I hope the anime industry just dies in the next year. Shows getting canceled mid-run, animation quality drop-off, fansub groups lose interest, and company after company go out of business because America is where a lot of those animation companies get a large revenue. Geez, you are all so selfish. |
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Sugoi-otaku said: Mario1-7 said: Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei Seto no Hanayome Minami-ke To-LOVE-Ru Shakugan no Shana II To Aru Majutsu no Index Toradora! D.Gray-man Gintama Hell Girl Season 2 These are my top 10 picks as far as im aware gintama and DGM are already licensed D.Gray-Man is already licensed. Gintama isn't officially licensed. It's only going to be put on crunchyroll w/ subs. And they better not license Gintama. That's the only show I would be really pissed about. |
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CCZilla said: After reading all of these "FUNi sux for licensing stuff" comments, my goodness, I hope the anime industry just dies in the next year. Shows getting canceled mid-run, animation quality drop-off, fansub groups lose interest, and company after company go out of business because America is where a lot of those animation companies get a large revenue. Geez, you are all so selfish. I'd be fine with it, everything I want to see has already been released. Much like the American film industry, they're running out of ideas. |
CCZilla said: Support your claim with numbers and facts if you want to make people care. Otherwise it's your own assumption that America actually gives them any kind of significant revenue (especially considering how destroyed our economy currently is right now).After reading all of these "FUNi sux for licensing stuff" comments, my goodness, I hope the anime industry just dies in the next year. Shows getting canceled mid-run, animation quality drop-off, fansub groups lose interest, and company after company go out of business because America is where a lot of those animation companies get a large revenue. Geez, you are all so selfish. |
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| Why are people saying FUNimation already licensed Seto no Hanayome. There is no proof of that. And what is everyone getting mad about when FUNimation Releases a DVD they add the Subtitle version in so you can choose what you wanna hear there is no reason to get mad. Or is it you don't wanna pay for it? >_> |
| Go Watch Sumomo momo Its epic. It has not gotten much attention... Episode 1 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v83597095dreGdW#comments  |
| People are just mad because the opportunity to spend money is coming and they are not liking it. |
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Mario1-7 said: Because I'll never listen to the dub?And what is everyone getting mad about when FUNimation Releases a DVD they add the Subtitle version in so you can choose what you wanna hear there is no reason to get mad. Or is it you don't wanna pay for it? >_> Would you be willing to pay extra for a German dub on your Funimation anime DVD if you don't know German or even if you speak German as a second language? |
cyruz said: Fuck, no. QFT. |
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| I hate you FUNimation! |
| I hope to god they dont take away my Soul Eater. I will never forgive them. just dont take any airing anime and I'll be good. |
Dam hope they don't do toradora! |
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| Gintama no! LOL! No hell no x_x |
| I hope they leave Gintama alone |
kuroshiroi said: Mario1-7 said: Because I'll never listen to the dub?And what is everyone getting mad about when FUNimation Releases a DVD they add the Subtitle version in so you can choose what you wanna hear there is no reason to get mad. Or is it you don't wanna pay for it? >_> Would you be willing to pay extra for a German dub on your Funimation anime DVD if you don't know German or even if you speak German as a second language? lal, QFT. isnt it pretty obvious why some (most) people are complaining about licensing? people cant afford to buy all the anime they are watching, and for us non-americans its freaking hard to get anime. an episode costs roughly 4 $ per episode, a show has roughly 12 episodes and the targeted audince for anime is teenagers/kids. Lets say the average completed shows on MAL are around 50 shows. you do the math, who can afford that? GG |
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| So i herd that they could be licensing Soul Eater? Also FUNimation have been sending out cease and desist letters to fansub groups that sub the anime that they are going to licence I hear as well? See this is why I hate FUNimation, they think they can control the anime community, so wrong. Also if you haven't done so already, go check out www.funimation.biz It's one big slap in the face for them. |
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| i hope they don't do shows currently airing, i'm hoping there just announcing boxsets for 2009 like slayers revolution or clannad first season that mak eme happy :) or maybe they willl announce da capo :( i hope |
| Noooooooo GTFO my currently watching and plan to watch list! |
| Wow, talk about being misinformed. Funi doesn't send out C & D's to piss off fans, or even because they have the license for the show. They do it at the request of their Japanese business partners (you know, Japan, the place where these shows are made) because FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL and they're protecting the investment these businesses have made. |
 You've come a long way, baby. |
Kimura said: FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL Depends on where you live~ |
Kimura said: Wow, talk about being misinformed. FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL. distribution of fansubs is illegal, not the subs themselves anyways, like everyone else, a big FUCK YOU to FUNimation for trying to ruin my life |
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| When was the last time a fansub WASN'T distributed? Anyway, regardless of whether fansubs are illegal, the other part of my post stands true. |
You've come a long way, baby. |
ShootTheBullet said: Could Reborn! be on this list? I've pretty much forgotten about the anime. D.Gray-Man, Reborn and Soul Eater will definitely be three of the 10 picks. Rumbel announced the licence of thos 3 series a while ago and immediately stopped subbing. Fortunately, gintama isn't licenced yet.. |
De-JaY said: No ifs or buts here. It's illegal according to international laws.Kimura said: FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL Depends on where you live~ Virgil said: Wait, so you are supposed to be happy about giving all your money to a greedy company? News to me. Next time I go to the store I'll proclaim loudly that I'm enjoying spending 200-500 dollars on my hobby. I bet that will make me popular.People are just mad because the opportunity to spend money is coming and they are not liking it. Kimura said: No, don't confuse people not likingwhat is happening with people not knowing why it's happening. Wow, talk about being misinformed. Funi doesn't send out C & D's to piss off fans, or even because they have the license for the show. They do it at the request of their Japanese business partners (you know, Japan, the place where these shows are made) because FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL and they're protecting the investment these businesses have made. Onegai said: Now you went to the meat of the issue. That's precisely what's wrong with the current industry. Big price tags, barely adequate dubs and translations ,and untimely releases.isnt it pretty obvious why some (most) people are complaining about licensing? people cant afford to buy all the anime they are watching, and for us non-americans its freaking hard to get anime. an episode costs roughly 4 $ per episode, a show has roughly 12 episodes and the targeted audince for anime is teenagers/kids. Lets say the average completed shows on MAL are around 50 shows. you do the math, who can afford that? |
Leon-GunDec 16, 2008 2:01 PM
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| Please don't C&D Toradora. I can't stand to wait an extra 2 days between episodes. |
Leon-Gun said: De-JaY said: No ifs or buts here. It's illegal according to international laws.Kimura said: FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL Depends on where you live~ Show me an example where anime is mentioned. :3 |
Leon-Gun said: Kimura said: No, don't confuse people not likingwhat is happening with people not knowing why it's happening.Wow, talk about being misinformed. Funi doesn't send out C & D's to piss off fans, or even because they have the license for the show. They do it at the request of their Japanese business partners (you know, Japan, the place where these shows are made) because FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL and they're protecting the investment these businesses have made. I was mainly referring to Edgey's post. Probably should've quoted it :) |
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Antanaru said: Almost 100% is Seto no Hanay... pardon me "My Bride is a Mermaid!"... My God, they screw up even titles. Funimation is even worse than 4kids. That's a perfectly normal title? |
Kimura said: Wow, talk about being misinformed. Funi doesn't send out C & D's to piss off fans, or even because they have the license for the show. They do it at the request of their Japanese business partners (you know, Japan, the place where these shows are made) because FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL and they're protecting the investment these businesses have made. FUNimation has no right to enforce the copyrights of others without a contract, a so far they haven't been willing / able to prove that there is any kind of contract at all to people who have asked about it (namely fansubbers that have received C&Ds from FUNi for shows FUNi hasn't licensed). If they can't / aren't willing to prove that such a contract exist, they don't have any actual rights to send C&Ds to fansubbers about shows they haven't licensed. |
| wow... i seriously can't believe this is an actual argument if you license haters think about what you're saying.. it's basically "OH EM GEE I HAVE TO PAY FOR MY FUCKING MEDIA? THAT'S SOOO UNFAIR" (okay that's an exaggeration). but the point is, EVERY form of media has to be payed for, one way or another. You pay for TV, you pay for CDs, hell you pay for your fucking internet. I'm sorry if you're SOO against the idea of supporting the anime industry. anyway, for a silver lining, current trends in the industry tells that if FUNI licenses a currently airing anime, odds are that they'll put it online w/i 2-3 weeks of it's air date w/ subs. If you can't wait, then move to Japan. (btw, i do feel that FUNI's C&D notices were a stupid plan that only pisses off fans) |
De-JaY said: Yes!! D: I'm all for licensing after the show is done airing! D:Noooooooo GTFO my currently watching and plan to watch list! |
Kimura said: FANSUBBING IS ILLEGAL Hmm if you say that.... 1. don't watch fan subs, unless your conderdicting yourself in watching fan subs 2. If you say it's illegal then don't watch anime. 3. If you have common sense who the fuck will wait about awhile for a sub version to come out from a company that subs for money, AND Fan subs are free be happy. |
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Tekky99 said: wow... i seriously can't believe this is an actual argument if you license haters think about what you're saying.. it's basically "OH EM GEE I HAVE TO PAY FOR MY FUCKING MEDIA? THAT'S SOOO UNFAIR" (okay that's an exaggeration). but the point is, EVERY form of media has to be payed for, one way or another. You pay for TV, you pay for CDs, hell you pay for your fucking internet. I'm sorry if you're SOO against the idea of supporting the anime industry. anyway, for a silver lining, current trends in the industry tells that if FUNI licenses a currently airing anime, odds are that they'll put it online w/i 2-3 weeks of it's air date w/ subs. If you can't wait, then move to Japan. (btw, i do feel that FUNI's C&D notices were a stupid plan that only pisses off fans) congratulations, you have failed. its obvious that you A) haven't read anything written in this thread, B) didnt get what you were reading or C) just didnt give a damn about waht other people think and why. you have 127 completed shows in your profile. (127*12)*4=6096 $. WoW, didnt know you was that rich. if you tell others to pay for their media, start with doing it yourself first. GG >.< |
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| Also 1 quick note. Fan subs you can watch onlie/DL for free, where if you buy the anime you'll probably only watch it ONCE unless it's a kick ass anime... BUT you'll get tried of it and...... you'll be like dam I wasted $24.99 for crap that I don't use anymore. |
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| Not so FUN-nimation is evil |
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| Lol, this is going to be a little fun to watch. It still sucks, but I'm going to be very curious as to who the next "victim" will be. ;D |
Xenzio said: Antanaru said: Almost 100% is Seto no Hanay... pardon me "My Bride is a Mermaid!"... My God, they screw up even titles. Funimation is even worse than 4kids. That's a perfectly normal title? ...for a Rob Schneider movie |
the_seventh_l said: You're assuming in that last part. I for a fact only rewatch anime I "really" like, since there's not enough time to rewatch every anime I get my hands on. Also, there's plenty of people who don't like the quality of streams AND the high quality official streams/downloads are currently off limits if you don't pay. Everything is about the bucks here, and that's why people don't exactly like it. Because it ussually involves a lot of money. It makes you want to quit watching anime altogether really...and if that's their aim they are doing a great job at it.NikuiKira12 said: Also 1 quick note. Fan subs you can watch onlie/DL for free, where if you buy the anime you'll probably only watch it ONCE unless it's a kick ass anime... BUT you'll get tried of it and...... you'll be like dam I wasted $24.99 for crap that I don't use anymore. Quick note: paying to watch anime =/= owning DVDs/VHS (see: Crunchyroll DLs, Netflix, etc), and more people re-watch anime than everyone seems to think. |
Leon-GunDec 16, 2008 3:50 PM
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Leon-Gun said: the_seventh_l said: You're assuming in that last part. I for a fact only rewatch anime I "really" like, since there's not enough time to rewatch every anime I get my hands on. Also, there's plenty of people who don't like the quality of streams AND the high quality official streams/downloads are currently off limits if you don't pay. Everything is about the bucks here, and that's why people don't exactly like it. Because it's ussually involved a lot of money. It makes you want to quit watching anime altogether really...and if that's their aim they are doing a great job at it.NikuiKira12 said: Also 1 quick note. Fan subs you can watch onlie/DL for free, where if you buy the anime you'll probably only watch it ONCE unless it's a kick ass anime... BUT you'll get tried of it and...... you'll be like dam I wasted $24.99 for crap that I don't use anymore. Quick note: paying to watch anime =/= owning DVDs/VHS (see: Crunchyroll DLs, Netflix, etc), and more people re-watch anime than everyone seems to think. Hmm I make my vids HQ.. because I got a free video converter.... sooo I don't needa complain. |
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kuroshiroi said: Mario1-7 said: Because I'll never listen to the dub?And what is everyone getting mad about when FUNimation Releases a DVD they add the Subtitle version in so you can choose what you wanna hear there is no reason to get mad. Or is it you don't wanna pay for it? >_> Would you be willing to pay extra for a German dub on your Funimation anime DVD if you don't know German or even if you speak German as a second language? Well I am already paying for the Japanese Dub so why the hell not? Its always good to have the Choice. That just shows how Selfish people are. |
| Go Watch Sumomo momo Its epic. It has not gotten much attention... Episode 1 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v83597095dreGdW#comments |
| It doesn't even seem right that Funimation could get the license to a show that hasn't even finished airing in Japan, assuming shows like Toradora and To Aru DO get licensed. That's jumping the gun a bit. |
| We're all awash in a sea of blood, and the least we can do is wave to each other. |
KingProgdor said: It doesn't even seem right that Funimation could get the license to a show that hasn't even finished airing in Japan, assuming shows like Toradora and To Aru DO get licensed. That's jumping the gun a bit. Dude Bandai and FUNimation both have shows that are air and the has not aired in Japan these guys are getting better. |
| Go Watch Sumomo momo Its epic. It has not gotten much attention... Episode 1 http://www.veoh.com/videos/v83597095dreGdW#comments |
Mario1-7 said: KingProgdor said: It doesn't even seem right that Funimation could get the license to a show that hasn't even finished airing in Japan, assuming shows like Toradora and To Aru DO get licensed. That's jumping the gun a bit. Dude Bandai and FUNimation both have shows that are air and the has not aired in Japan these guys are getting better. I'm mainly hoping NOT, to be honest. 11 episodes into To Aru, my favourite show of the season, and they're gonna license it? Big disappointment is big. That's a big gap in waiting; not only does the show have to finish airing before they can start dubbing, but then they have to actually RELEASE the stuff. |
| We're all awash in a sea of blood, and the least we can do is wave to each other. |
| Let's be honest. To those complaining about DVD prices, they're nothing compared to Japan's. We actually have it lucky in comparison. |
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