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TBATE fans. With a score of 5.49, we've beaten Isekai Mom (5.55) and School Days (5.51). Now we're going toward Promised Neverland 2 (5.26)

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@Lazzx ok. I can somewhat agree with animation. It's not trash, but it's not ok too. But why can't u just think like this is an old anime with old animation. Many people still enjoy dragon ball though it has old shit animation. If you don't want to think like that, it's up to u. But wtf are u saying later. Kid, I seriously got angry here. Plot,u talking about plot and story and senses. It's actually better than mushoko tensei, in my opinion (I have read the manhwa) and also main reason I like this is bcz our MC is not trash and looser personality like Rudy, which is truth, u can't deny it(many fans of mushoko tensei like it bcz they relate with that trash personality of Rudy, as I have asked many fans. U may not agree, but truth doesn't change by ur acceptance). Later plot will be really good if u have brain of human, not that of sheep in herd. I do agree that animation may have downgraded the intensity of action and all as I didn't watched it, but mushoko tensei fans will definitely think this is another copy and immediately rate it 1 like crazy. Also the fact it is actually not japanese may, may and may affect the reaction of majority.
@Chaitanya_outaku Tbate fans always say the same things, but the only thing they make clear is that if they denigrate a series as well written as Mushoku Tensei so much, they are not that different from those who are convinced that Demon Slayer or My Hero Academia are well written works, what you are doing is, basically, like going to a person who likes fantasy and telling them "lotr really sucks, try reading this other series that I really like, you'll see that it's much better" I think that the kindest thing a fantasy lover could do at that point would be to look at you badly and ignore your opinion
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@Chaitanya_outaku Tbate fans always say the same things, but the only thing they make clear is that if they denigrate a series as well written as Mushoku Tensei so much, they are not that different from those who are convinced that Demon Slayer or My Hero Academia are well written works, what you are doing is, basically, like going to a person who likes fantasy and telling them "lotr really sucks, try reading this other series that I really like, you'll see that it's much better" I think that the kindest thing a fantasy lover could do at that point would be to look at you badly and ignore your opinion
@Geracchio so your point here is again that I am claiming it's plot is well written. I am not claiming it, sorry. Truth doesn't change by just claiming. I think u can say a series is not well written only after u complete atleast 20% of entire plot. I don't know why u r prejudice, but atleast don't say that plot is trash before reading it. It's unique and emotional and realistic mostly. My main point here was atleast the main characters personality is better than Rudy, while also having flaws, near death scenes multiple times, weakness and a bit stupidity. I hope u will judge after reading it with fresh mind, not with a mind which has already decided that TBATE is trash before giving it a chance.
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I don't like Demon slayer just bcz it's animation is good, I haven't watched MHA nor am I going to. Also I don't know lotr. Maybe short form of an anime I have watched, but I don't remember. Mushoku tensei might be well written but I found it much monotone, colourless combined with Rudy's scum personality sometimes. Except that, I found other things really good like animation, the storyline, the character development till now(I didn't notice much except for the red hair girl whose name I forgot), adventure is good too, elements are good too. But don't u find it monotone without much accomplishments or goals completion etc. I just think it's a slice of life adventures of a looser character who is trying to improve and become mature bit by bit, world building might be rich, but Slice of life is too monotone for me to enjoy. Read and understand my opinion before saying nonsense things, this not for the one whom I am replying, but for anyone who find my comment too wrong (though it's my opinion). Bye😁
Chaitanya_outakuApr 28, 6:44 AM
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@Geracchio so your point here is again that I am claiming it's plot is well written. I am not claiming it, sorry. Truth doesn't change by just claiming. I think u can say a series is not well written only after u complete atleast 20% of entire plot. I don't know why u r prejudice, but atleast don't say that plot is trash before reading it. It's unique and emotional and realistic mostly. My main point here was atleast the main characters personality is better than Rudy, while also having flaws, near death scenes multiple times, weakness and a bit stupidity. I hope u will judge after reading it with fresh mind, not with a mind which has already decided that TBATE is trash before giving it a chance.
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I don't like Demon slayer just bcz it's animation is good, I haven't watched MHA nor am I going to. Also I don't know lotr. Maybe short form of an anime I have watched, but I don't remember. Mushoku tensei might be well written but I found it much monotone, colourless combined with Rudy's scum personality sometimes. Except that, I found other things really good like animation, the storyline, the character development till now(I didn't notice much except for the red hair girl whose name I forgot), adventure is good too, elements are good too. But don't u find it monotone without much accomplishments or goals completion etc. I just think it's a slice of life adventures of a looser character who is trying to improve and become mature bit by bit, world building might be rich, but Slice of life is too monotone for me to enjoy. Read and understand my opinion before saying nonsense things, this not for the one whom I am replying, but for anyone who find my comment too wrong (though it's my opinion). Bye😁
@Chaitanya_outaku Bye! When you mature as a reader, and in your understanding of the text (did you understand the context in which I mentioned Demon Slayer and MHA? From what you answered, it seems like you didn't) I recommend you really read Mushoku Tensei (this part may seem offensive to you, but apart from the thing about understanding the text, which is really a criticism, the rest is sincere advice).
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Lmao there won't be ever enough popcorn for watching you guys getting heated on this thread, such a treat

Anyway I hope TBATE score will sink even further, let it burn in the flames it deserves
@Damuzen it already reach 5.3x. 0.4 more point to reach 4.x!!!
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15% rated 1's is crazy lol, by far the highest percentage I've come across for this, that's not some one episode OVA garbage or obscure show. This seems to be more of a team effort this time around though, instead of individual dissatisfaction.
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15% rated 1's is crazy lol, by far the highest percentage I've come across for this, that's not some one episode OVA garbage or obscure show. This seems to be more of a team effort this time around though, instead of individual dissatisfaction.
@GakutoDeathGlare When the fandom itself hate it and even said, TBATE anime never exist, in denial. I think that understandable.
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Isekai mom is awesome. Anyone who rated that low has trash taste.
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AriiTensei said:
@Piromysl I compared it, bcs
1. It's a boring af story for ppl with Oedipus complex and mid animation at best parts (tho still looking way better than TBATE)
2. But that above is just my opinion, the main reason why I've compared it is because it is a show i've seen that has really low MAL score. For the same reason i've mentioned Promised Neverland 2 and Wonder Egg Priority TV Special Ep, even tho they look better

Mommy Isekai is peak and you are wrong.
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Yo, I laughed multiple times while reading what you said. I don’t know if you were being serious while typing all of that, but it was pretty hilarious—while also being completely true, haha.

That aside, I’m gonna be honest—I might be in the minority here—but I feel like the hate is kinda forced. I say this because the manhwa is generally a really well-loved one, so for both the readers who were excited to see it animated and the viewers who heard good things about it to end up disappointed simultaneously... that’s mainly why this anime is rated so low.

I’m not really defending the anime or the studio—it’s just that, yeah, the adaptation is bad, but that’s all it is. I don’t think it deserves to be review bombed like it’s the worst thing ever. Again, not defending it, but seriously—can anyone in their right mind honestly say this deserves a lower rating than School Days? Come on, that’s such an exaggeration.

School Days was such a traumatic anime for me, especially cuz i was kid back then, when i stumbled upon it. I regret ever watching it, mainly because of how much it made me care about the characters and root for them—only for the show to just off them all like that. So no, I don’t think this anime is worse than School Days at all. Maybe it’s as bad as Neverland's 2nd season, sure—but I’d put both Neverland's 2nd season & TBATE at around a 6.

I feel like anything below a 6 should be reserved for shows like School Days and Scum’s Wish-type sh**, if you know what I mean.
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Yo, I laughed multiple times while reading what you said. I don’t know if you were being serious while typing all of that, but it was pretty hilarious—while also being completely true, haha.

That aside, I’m gonna be honest—I might be in the minority here—but I feel like the hate is kinda forced. I say this because the manhwa is generally a really well-loved one, so for both the readers who were excited to see it animated and the viewers who heard good things about it to end up disappointed simultaneously... that’s mainly why this anime is rated so low.

I’m not really defending the anime or the studio—it’s just that, yeah, the adaptation is bad, but that’s all it is. I don’t think it deserves to be review bombed like it’s the worst thing ever. Again, not defending it, but seriously—can anyone in their right mind honestly say this deserves a lower rating than School Days? Come on, that’s such an exaggeration.

School Days was such a traumatic anime for me, especially cuz i was kid back then, when i stumbled upon it. I regret ever watching it, mainly because of how much it made me care about the characters and root for them—only for the show to just off them all like that. So no, I don’t think this anime is worse than School Days at all. Maybe it’s as bad as Neverland's 2nd season, sure—but I’d put both Neverland's 2nd season & TBATE at around a 6.

I feel like anything below a 6 should be reserved for shows like School Days and Scum’s Wish-type sh**, if you know what I mean.
@Skuvan Nah im not serious in the post, im just meming at the show bcs it's the only value it has.

However again. Statements like "the rating is too low" are wrong, because user rating system in general isn't valuable in terms of judging show's quality (which is impossible to do on a numeric scale anyway). It is however very good tool to judge reception of the show (unless it is botted when a few ppl can use multiple accounts to lower it on purpose, but MAL has a system to prevent that so it's irrelevant in this case).

If the show is unpopular for whatever reason, whether just or not, the user score will reflect that.
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Yo, I laughed multiple times while reading what you said. I don’t know if you were being serious while typing all of that, but it was pretty hilarious—while also being completely true, haha.

That aside, I’m gonna be honest—I might be in the minority here—but I feel like the hate is kinda forced. I say this because the manhwa is generally a really well-loved one, so for both the readers who were excited to see it animated and the viewers who heard good things about it to end up disappointed simultaneously... that’s mainly why this anime is rated so low.

I’m not really defending the anime or the studio—it’s just that, yeah, the adaptation is bad, but that’s all it is. I don’t think it deserves to be review bombed like it’s the worst thing ever. Again, not defending it, but seriously—can anyone in their right mind honestly say this deserves a lower rating than School Days? Come on, that’s such an exaggeration.

School Days was such a traumatic anime for me, especially cuz i was kid back then, when i stumbled upon it. I regret ever watching it, mainly because of how much it made me care about the characters and root for them—only for the show to just off them all like that. So no, I don’t think this anime is worse than School Days at all. Maybe it’s as bad as Neverland's 2nd season, sure—but I’d put both Neverland's 2nd season & TBATE at around a 6.

I feel like anything below a 6 should be reserved for shows like School Days and Scum’s Wish-type sh**, if you know what I mean.
@Skuvan The moment it made you care for the characters (School Days) while watching, it meant something, it meant it was good enough for you to care. And it wasn't even a hate watch kind of feel in the beginning from your words.

Truly trash series are completely worth nothing, you feel empty about them. You forget about them after a couple weeks.
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@Skuvan Nah im not serious in the post, im just meming at the show bcs it's the only value it has.

However again. Statements like "the rating is too low" are wrong, because user rating system in general isn't valuable in terms of judging show's quality (which is impossible to do on a numeric scale anyway). It is however very good tool to judge reception of the show (unless it is botted when a few ppl can use multiple accounts to lower it on purpose, but MAL has a system to prevent that so it's irrelevant in this case).

If the show is unpopular for whatever reason, whether just or not, the user score will reflect that.
@AriiTensei

Nah im not serious in the post, im just meming at the show bcs it's the only value it has.

Facts.

Statements like "the rating is too low" are wrong, because user rating system in general isn't valuable in terms of judging show's quality (which is impossible to do on a numeric scale anyway).

With all due respect, I completely disagree. Saying “the rating is too low” isn’t a wrong statement. For example, if I recommended this anime to a friend on a whim, he’d check the score, catch up to this episode, get disappointed, and instead of texting me his thoughts, he’d just send me his location—apparently to discuss the plot with his fists.

Ppl naturally react 2 scores in their own way. If that’s how u see it, then that’s ur perspective. Maybe others feel the same. Maybe they don’t. Either way, it ain't fair 2 push ur interpretation onto others. Ppl don’t usually change how they view scores just because a stranger on the internet tells them 2.

The user rating system isn’t “not valuable” when it comes to judging a show’s quality, and it’s not impossible to use a numeric scale either. Take The Room, for example—that romcom movie directed and distributed by Tommy Wiseau. Are you really saying you can’t rate that with a number?

Let me give you the perfect score, courtesy of yours truly: a whopping 5/10. You know why? Because it’s so bad it’s good. And that, my friend, sits perfectly at 5/10—the sweet spot where disaster and entertainment meet. You feel me?

It is however very good tool to judge reception of the show (unless it is botted when a few ppl can use multiple accounts to lower it on purpose, but MAL has a system to prevent that so it's irrelevant in this case).

That’s your personal way of using critic scores, which, again, might align with others—or might not. Personally, when a friend recommends a show to me, I immediately hop on Rotten Tomatoes to check its score out of 100. If it’s above 70%, I binge it right away. If it’s not, I don’t. You feel me?

If the show is unpopular for whatever reason, whether just or not, the user score will reflect that.

The only sole singular single viewpoint we actually mutually agree on.
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@Skuvan The moment it made you care for the characters (School Days) while watching, it meant something, it meant it was good enough for you to care. And it wasn't even a hate watch kind of feel in the beginning from your words.

Truly trash series are completely worth nothing, you feel empty about them. You forget about them after a couple weeks.
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The moment it made you care for the characters (School Days) while watching, it meant something, it meant it was good enough for you to care. And it wasn't even a hate watch kind of feel in the beginning from your words.

Writing that attaches you to a character and eventually traumatizes you due to an abrupt ending isn’t good writing by any means. It’s called troll writing.

I’d put TBATE above School Days any day of the week. You know why? Because School Days did the same thing as Oshi no Ko, Love Agency, and Neverland S2: an abrupt, pointless, inconsequential, meaningless, and traumatizing ending.

TBATE, on the other hand, is just badly animated. The voice acting is superb, the plot isn’t rushing (except for a few of Gray’s monologued lines being skipped), and it’s so far very faithful to the novel. I’d choose bad animation over a bad ending any day of the week.

Truly trash series are completely worth nothing, you feel empty about them. You forget about them after a couple weeks.

I never drop except for a specific drop reason, not just cuz an anime's specifically bad.
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@AriiTensei

Nah im not serious in the post, im just meming at the show bcs it's the only value it has.

Facts.

Statements like "the rating is too low" are wrong, because user rating system in general isn't valuable in terms of judging show's quality (which is impossible to do on a numeric scale anyway).

With all due respect, I completely disagree. Saying “the rating is too low” isn’t a wrong statement. For example, if I recommended this anime to a friend on a whim, he’d check the score, catch up to this episode, get disappointed, and instead of texting me his thoughts, he’d just send me his location—apparently to discuss the plot with his fists.

Ppl naturally react 2 scores in their own way. If that’s how u see it, then that’s ur perspective. Maybe others feel the same. Maybe they don’t. Either way, it ain't fair 2 push ur interpretation onto others. Ppl don’t usually change how they view scores just because a stranger on the internet tells them 2.

The user rating system isn’t “not valuable” when it comes to judging a show’s quality, and it’s not impossible to use a numeric scale either. Take The Room, for example—that romcom movie directed and distributed by Tommy Wiseau. Are you really saying you can’t rate that with a number?

Let me give you the perfect score, courtesy of yours truly: a whopping 5/10. You know why? Because it’s so bad it’s good. And that, my friend, sits perfectly at 5/10—the sweet spot where disaster and entertainment meet. You feel me?

It is however very good tool to judge reception of the show (unless it is botted when a few ppl can use multiple accounts to lower it on purpose, but MAL has a system to prevent that so it's irrelevant in this case).

That’s your personal way of using critic scores, which, again, might align with others—or might not. Personally, when a friend recommends a show to me, I immediately hop on Rotten Tomatoes to check its score out of 100. If it’s above 70%, I binge it right away. If it’s not, I don’t. You feel me?

If the show is unpopular for whatever reason, whether just or not, the user score will reflect that.

The only sole singular single viewpoint we actually mutually agree on.
@Skuvan
The user rating system isn’t “not valuable” when it comes to judging a show’s quality, and it’s not impossible to use a numeric scale either. Take The Room, for example—that romcom movie directed and distributed by Tommy Wiseau. Are you really saying you can’t rate that with a number?

Let me give you the perfect score, courtesy of yours truly: a whopping 5/10. You know why? Because it’s so bad it’s good. And that, my friend, sits perfectly at 5/10—the sweet spot where disaster and entertainment meet. You feel me?

Yes, for you it's 5/10 because it's best score for it. For someone else it's gonna be 10/10, because his scoring system judges so, you 2 will agree, because you wont even talk to each other, so The Room will have score of 7.5, add more people and it's gonna reach 6.42 and so on

The whole argument "no you can give numeric score to things and it will reflect their quality because my example" is pointless because even if you have your personal system in which you will be perfectly judging things every single time, then a score on a OPEN USER SCORE AGGREGATOR site like MAL will never, ever reflect that. It might maybe someday be close to your score, but it still will never use whatever the criteria you picked for this number. For you 5/10 as a perfect guilty pleasure, for me 5/10 it's an average thing that ill forget in a weak, for someone else 5/10 means it's the worst thing they saw in their life etc.
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@Skuvan
The user rating system isn’t “not valuable” when it comes to judging a show’s quality, and it’s not impossible to use a numeric scale either. Take The Room, for example—that romcom movie directed and distributed by Tommy Wiseau. Are you really saying you can’t rate that with a number?

Let me give you the perfect score, courtesy of yours truly: a whopping 5/10. You know why? Because it’s so bad it’s good. And that, my friend, sits perfectly at 5/10—the sweet spot where disaster and entertainment meet. You feel me?

Yes, for you it's 5/10 because it's best score for it. For someone else it's gonna be 10/10, because his scoring system judges so, you 2 will agree, because you wont even talk to each other, so The Room will have score of 7.5, add more people and it's gonna reach 6.42 and so on

The whole argument "no you can give numeric score to things and it will reflect their quality because my example" is pointless because even if you have your personal system in which you will be perfectly judging things every single time, then a score on a OPEN USER SCORE AGGREGATOR site like MAL will never, ever reflect that. It might maybe someday be close to your score, but it still will never use whatever the criteria you picked for this number. For you 5/10 as a perfect guilty pleasure, for me 5/10 it's an average thing that ill forget in a weak, for someone else 5/10 means it's the worst thing they saw in their life etc.
@AriiTensei
Yes, for you it's 5/10 because it's best score for it. For someone else it's gonna be 10/10, because his scoring system judges so, you 2 will agree, because you wont even talk to each other, so The Room will have score of 7.5, add more people and it's gonna reach 6.42 and so on

Why would I care how others rate The Room? The only reason I made that statement was to show you that it's totally possible to put any type of art on a numerical scale—not to say that my review is going to become The Room's official rating.

The whole argument "no you can give numeric score to things and it will reflect their quality because my example" is pointless because even if you have your personal system in which you will be perfectly judging things every single time, then a score on a OPEN USER SCORE AGGREGATOR site like MAL will never, ever reflect that.

It does reflect that, by placing mine alongside the general public's. But even if you don't see that as a reflection, that's fine — it doesn't have to reflect it. I never said I wanted it to. I just said I would've preferred TBATE over School Days because that's how I'd want it.

But it doesn't have to turn out the way I want — life doesn't always go the way we hope. You've strayed far from my original point, which is, again, that it is entirely possible to rate art on a numerical scale.

It might maybe someday be close to your score, but it still will never use whatever the criteria you picked for this number. For you 5/10 as a perfect guilty pleasure, for me 5/10 it's an average thing that ill forget in a weak, for someone else 5/10 means it's the worst thing they saw in their life etc.


Facts, which is why in my original comment, i stated that people naturally to react to scores in their own way.
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Wah, already lower than promised neverland 2 '-')
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Wah, already lower than promised neverland 2 '-')
@Fuyudesuwa We have won
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is already close to becoming the worst isekai of all time.

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Score wouldn't be so low if there was no hype for it before.
Also what part of rules you don't understand - topics about score aren't allowed.
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Score wouldn't be so low if there was no hype for it before.
Also what part of rules you don't understand - topics about score aren't allowed.
@bastek66 Yes, score is low because there was hype before, and hype came from popularity of the source material. I can make a moot point aswell if you want. Also regarding the rules, they don't ban me from joking about a score that show has and saying that i hope it will go lower, because it'll be funny for me, you can call the cops on me tho
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The source material readers are still so pissed about the adaptation 🤣🤣🤣. So 3 thousand crybabies rate it a “1”, showing that writer who’s boss 💩🎉💪. These people routing for failure need to drop it and move the fuck on. Posting nonsense like this shows the collective stupidity of MAL members. I like the anime and story, so much so that it’s a 7/10.
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The source material readers are still so pissed about the adaptation 🤣🤣🤣. So 3 thousand crybabies rate it a “1”, showing that writer who’s boss 💩🎉💪. These people routing for failure need to drop it and move the fuck on. Posting nonsense like this shows the collective stupidity of MAL members. I like the anime and story, so much so that it’s a 7/10.
@nhkam couldn't agree with you more. I also rated 7/10.
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It's unoriginal Isekai slop, in a sea of other Isekai slop. In this case the animation is terrible, and the studio are infamous for their shitty quality. I'm honestly surprised it's as high as it is.
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This thread is a disgrace..What do you people gain with doing shit like this lol?
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Don't care, i'm thankful to this adaptation for making me discover such a cool webtoon ( i'm already half way) and i still think they're complementary to eachother, you can see TurtleMe added even more details here and there that add so much and i couldn't give a rat ass that it doesn't have ufotable tier of animation, one of my favourite of this season.
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lmfao, I think it's already below Promised Neverland s2 which is an all time low. 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
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@AriiTensei

With all due respect, you seem more about just visual stimulation, rather than thinking about the story and dialogue.

The art / animation are fine for this anime. This anime is more about the story and dialogue, rather than the visual aspects of fight scenes and action. It dose not need to be the most expensive and time consuming art and animation.

Also, the MAL rating is not worth even considering, it is never accurate. and I find that good shows often have lower ratings.

And saying "Oedipus complex" is completely uncalled for, there is nothing hinting that in the episodes, and it unfairly insulting people.

"This kind of anime..."
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.
This is something I've been damn well reading since 2023. It's regarded as one of the t5 webnovels in the webnovel community and people were really hyped when the anime got announced. When you have the anime adaptation of a popular work announced, for it to shine and attract new fans, it needs good/best treatment.
But no, most people are getting attracted to this shit show cause of the bad animation and to make fun of it. I love TBATE; I love the webnovel and webcomic, but as it is now, THERE IS NO TBATE ANIME.
Ofc, you're free to say "the animation is fine for this fan made anime" or whatever. That's fine.
Don't just claim the animation is *fine*. After 7 episodes, this is "fine" to you? Seeing as this is my first drop of the season and it got a 1 from me, it really does hurt as this had the potential to be the best new anime of the season. Smh.
Good grief, imagine having the worst animation this season. It's fuckin' disgraceful.
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is already close to becoming the worst isekai of all time.


Bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha.
brooooo. 😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔
May 15, 5:54 PM
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It's at 5.25.

We can do it everyone!
May 15, 6:33 PM
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You people are absurd and toxic. No wonder a show that would typically be ~7.25-7.50ish on MAL is over 2 full points below that

Buncha dumbasses
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it's a solid 4.0 with ~43K ratings on crunchy right now.

it's honestly only a bunch of bitter, whiny babies review-bombing a product they really SHOULD support, if they claim to love the source material so much -- you should want more fans, no matter how you get them.

most of us who went in blind seem FINE with things so far, btw. I'm quite pleased, and I'm optimistic about them dumping more resources into later episodes. I like the way magic is animated and the music is good. unless it drops WAY off, I'll stick with it all the way
@Xeneixian yea, I was wondering why the score was so low even though MAL ratings are almost always overinflated and even though I think this series is decent

Then I came in here and see it's a bunch of self loathing, self hating, intellectually disabled people brigading the score down. How pathetic
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ejleon said:
@AriiTensei

With all due respect, you seem more about just visual stimulation, rather than thinking about the story and dialogue.

The art / animation are fine for this anime. This anime is more about the story and dialogue, rather than the visual aspects of fight scenes and action. It dose not need to be the most expensive and time consuming art and animation.

Also, the MAL rating is not worth even considering, it is never accurate. and I find that good shows often have lower ratings.

And saying "Oedipus complex" is completely uncalled for, there is nothing hinting that in the episodes, and it unfairly insulting people.

"This kind of anime..."
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.
This is something I've been damn well reading since 2023. It's regarded as one of the t5 webnovels in the webnovel community and people were really hyped when the anime got announced. When you have the anime adaptation of a popular work announced, for it to shine and attract new fans, it needs good/best treatment.
But no, most people are getting attracted to this shit show cause of the bad animation and to make fun of it. I love TBATE; I love the webnovel and webcomic, but as it is now, THERE IS NO TBATE ANIME.
Ofc, you're free to say "the animation is fine for this fan made anime" or whatever. That's fine.
Don't just claim the animation is *fine*. After 7 episodes, this is "fine" to you? Seeing as this is my first drop of the season and it got a 1 from me, it really does hurt as this had the potential to be the best new anime of the season. Smh.
Good grief, imagine having the worst animation this season. It's fuckin' disgraceful.

Before anything gets drawn, there are TV stations / media distributors, businesses, contracts, studios, executives, producers, directors, animators, voice actors, sound engineers, musicians, etc etc etc, and all of this takes time and money, so unless there is money to hire the best people for the kind of animation that they want for their anime, they will have less than perfect animation.

If they knew that they were going to get bad animation from the start, then they should have not hired them, but if they knew and still hired them, then that means that they were fine with the product.

And I have heard that the writer / creator approved of this studio’s version, which says a lot.

This is not a badly animated anime, this is a “I personally don’t approve” complaint.

And your bias against and mocking of “isekai” is illogical, some of the best animated anime in the last few years have been Isekai, Mushoku Tensei & Eminence in Shadow.
ejleonMay 16, 1:27 AM
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ejleon said:
CheliosX said:

"This kind of anime..."
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.
This is something I've been damn well reading since 2023. It's regarded as one of the t5 webnovels in the webnovel community and people were really hyped when the anime got announced. When you have the anime adaptation of a popular work announced, for it to shine and attract new fans, it needs good/best treatment.
But no, most people are getting attracted to this shit show cause of the bad animation and to make fun of it. I love TBATE; I love the webnovel and webcomic, but as it is now, THERE IS NO TBATE ANIME.
Ofc, you're free to say "the animation is fine for this fan made anime" or whatever. That's fine.
Don't just claim the animation is *fine*. After 7 episodes, this is "fine" to you? Seeing as this is my first drop of the season and it got a 1 from me, it really does hurt as this had the potential to be the best new anime of the season. Smh.
Good grief, imagine having the worst animation this season. It's fuckin' disgraceful.

Before anything gets drawn, there are TV stations / media distributors, businesses, contracts, studios, executives, producers, directors, animators, voice actors, sound engineers, musicians, etc etc etc, and all of this takes time and money, so unless there is money to hire the best people for the kind of animation that they want for their anime, they will have less than perfect animation.

If they knew that they were going to get bad animation from the start, then they should have not hired them, but if they knew and still hired them, then that means that they were fine with the product.

And I have heard that the writer / creator approved of this studio’s version, which says a lot.

This is not a badly animated anime, this is a “I personally don’t approve” complaint.

And your bias against and mocking of “isekai” is illogical, some of the best animated anime in the last few years have been Isekai, Mushoku Tensei & Eminence in Shadow.

Stop coping, dude.
I always respect opinions but the anime is bad. You need to see the light here and stop trying to turn a blind eye.
I will always appreciate the hard work everyone puts into an anime but that doesn't mean I won't criticize when the time.
TurtleMe approved it. Why? Cause the director has read the webcomic and researched the webnovel too. Lmfao. And he gave the go ahead even when the studio is ass.
The animation is ass but the story is decent even though I don't like the cut content and changes.
Anyways, you do you and keep liking the "anime". That's fine.

And don't be silly. I never had any bias against isekai. Isekai is my #1 favorite anime genre, I love the genre, I love ReZERO, Tensura, Mushoku Tensei, Overlord, KonoSuba, Saga of Tanya the Evil, Rising of the Shield Hero, Eminence in Shadow and so many more isekai.
I said "GENERIC ISEKAI WITH...".
Not "PEAK/MASTERPIECE ISEKAI WITH...".
Big diff.
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ejleon said:
CheliosX said:

"This kind of anime..."
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.
This is something I've been damn well reading since 2023. It's regarded as one of the t5 webnovels in the webnovel community and people were really hyped when the anime got announced. When you have the anime adaptation of a popular work announced, for it to shine and attract new fans, it needs good/best treatment.
But no, most people are getting attracted to this shit show cause of the bad animation and to make fun of it. I love TBATE; I love the webnovel and webcomic, but as it is now, THERE IS NO TBATE ANIME.
Ofc, you're free to say "the animation is fine for this fan made anime" or whatever. That's fine.
Don't just claim the animation is *fine*. After 7 episodes, this is "fine" to you? Seeing as this is my first drop of the season and it got a 1 from me, it really does hurt as this had the potential to be the best new anime of the season. Smh.
Good grief, imagine having the worst animation this season. It's fuckin' disgraceful.

Before anything gets drawn, there are TV stations / media distributors, businesses, contracts, studios, executives, producers, directors, animators, voice actors, sound engineers, musicians, etc etc etc, and all of this takes time and money, so unless there is money to hire the best people for the kind of animation that they want for their anime, they will have less than perfect animation.

If they knew that they were going to get bad animation from the start, then they should have not hired them, but if they knew and still hired them, then that means that they were fine with the product.

And I have heard that the writer / creator approved of this studio’s version, which says a lot.

This is not a badly animated anime, this is a “I personally don’t approve” complaint.

And your bias against and mocking of “isekai” is illogical, some of the best animated anime in the last few years have been Isekai, Mushoku Tensei & Eminence in Shadow.

Stop coping, dude.
I always respect opinions but the anime is bad. You need to see the light here and stop trying to turn a blind eye.
I will always appreciate the hard work everyone puts into an anime but that doesn't mean I won't criticize when the time.
TurtleMe approved it. Why? Cause the director has read the webcomic and researched the webnovel too. Lmfao. And he gave the go ahead even when the studio is ass.
The animation is ass but the story is decent even though I don't like the cut content and changes.
Anyways, you do you and keep liking the "anime". That's fine.

And don't be silly. I never had any bias against isekai. Isekai is my #1 favorite anime genre, I love the genre, I love ReZERO, Tensura, Mushoku Tensei, Overlord, KonoSuba, Saga of Tanya the Evil, Rising of the Shield Hero, Eminence in Shadow and so many more isekai.
I said "GENERIC ISEKAI WITH...".
Not "PEAK/MASTERPIECE ISEKAI WITH...".
Big diff.
@CheliosX

I never stopped you from providing honest constructive criticism or praise for an anime, but I doubt anyone from the team working on this anime, sees or cares about what we say on these forums.

I am just the messenger, so don't kill me.

As I said, the animation was fine for what the anime needed, it did not need "expert perfect level animation" to show 5-10 seconds of the story that was not as important.

You say that but you also said ....

CheliosX said:
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.

I love Isekai the most out of all genres, so I don't mock it like you have.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
@CheliosX

I never stopped you from providing honest constructive criticism or praise for an anime, but I doubt anyone from the team working on this anime, sees or cares about what we say on these forums.

I am just the messenger, so don't kill me.

As I said, the animation was fine for what the anime needed, it did not need "expert perfect level animation" to show 5-10 seconds of the story that was not as important.

You say that but you also said ....

CheliosX said:
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.

I love Isekai the most out of all genres, so I don't mock it like you have.

I never said they are to care about what I say. It's fine if they want to keep up the ass animation. I will still criticize it and say it's bad, they can keep up with it.
And again, knowing it's status in the webnovel community, yes, yes it does deserve the Solo Leveling treatment. If you do not see that, that is you.
I love the isekai genre doesn't mean I won't criticize a bad/mid/ass isekai whenever I see one e.g., Isekai Cheat Skill, Fruit of Evolution etc.
I am not a fanatic that will see a bad/mid/average isekai and still accept it blindly calling it "fine".
Anyways, like I said before, there is no TBATE anime imo. It's up to you if you wish to disregard it or accept it. No one's gonna "kill you".
But stick to what you "think".
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@CheliosX

I never stopped you from providing honest constructive criticism or praise for an anime, but I doubt anyone from the team working on this anime, sees or cares about what we say on these forums.

I am just the messenger, so don't kill me.

As I said, the animation was fine for what the anime needed, it did not need "expert perfect level animation" to show 5-10 seconds of the story that was not as important.

You say that but you also said ....

CheliosX said:
TBATE *DOES* DESERVE THE SOLO LEVELING TREATMENT.
IT DOES NOT DESERVE THE GENERIC ISEKAI WITH ASS PP SLIDE, CAPCUT EFFECT, AND BAD PACING.

I love Isekai the most out of all genres, so I don't mock it like you have.

I never said they are to care about what I say. It's fine if they want to keep up the ass animation. I will still criticize it and say it's bad, they can keep up with it.
And again, knowing it's status in the webnovel community, yes, yes it does deserve the Solo Leveling treatment. If you do not see that, that is you.
I love the isekai genre doesn't mean I won't criticize a bad/mid/ass isekai whenever I see one e.g., Isekai Cheat Skill, Fruit of Evolution etc.
I am not a fanatic that will see a bad/mid/average isekai and still accept it blindly calling it "fine".
Anyways, like I said before, there is no TBATE anime imo. It's up to you if you wish to disregard it or accept it. No one's gonna "kill you".
But stick to what you "think".
@CheliosX

Fair enough.

I don't read the written material, so I will trust your word.

I don't understand how "popularity" means it should get "good animation", that is up to whoever hires the studios to make the anime.

I criticize the isekai genre too, but I don't have pre-assumed stereo types, "GENERIC ISEKAI", that are not fair to the genre.

Neither do I and I never said "accept an anime blindly", I just don't think hating the entire anime is fair, just because seconds of the anime were not to your preferred standard.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
@CheliosX

Fair enough.

I don't read the written material, so I will trust your word.

I don't understand how "popularity" means it should get "good animation", that is up to whoever hires the studios to make the anime.

I criticize the isekai genre too, but I don't have pre-assumed stereo types, "GENERIC ISEKAI", that are not fair to the genre.

Neither do I and I never said "accept an anime blindly", I just don't think hating the entire anime is fair, just because seconds of the anime were not to your preferred standard.

Indeed, in most cases, "popularity" does equal "good animation" or else, well, y'know how it is with the TBATE fandom after all the "Mushoku Tensei and Solo Leveling killer" rant before the anime aired. Oof.
And yes, generic isekai do exist, both good and bad. Average included.
Anyways, this fan made anime is going downhill but I'm watching how things will play out in the end, lol.
And regarding the "judging it based on few seconds of the anime" part. No, the animation up till the current episode is bad. So yes, that's why I still say what I say.
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CheliosX said:
ejleon said:
@CheliosX

Fair enough.

I don't read the written material, so I will trust your word.

I don't understand how "popularity" means it should get "good animation", that is up to whoever hires the studios to make the anime.

I criticize the isekai genre too, but I don't have pre-assumed stereo types, "GENERIC ISEKAI", that are not fair to the genre.

Neither do I and I never said "accept an anime blindly", I just don't think hating the entire anime is fair, just because seconds of the anime were not to your preferred standard.

Indeed, in most cases, "popularity" does equal "good animation" or else, well, y'know how it is with the TBATE fandom after all the "Mushoku Tensei and Solo Leveling killer" rant before the anime aired. Oof.
And yes, generic isekai do exist, both good and bad. Average included.
Anyways, this fan made anime is going downhill but I'm watching how things will play out in the end, lol.
And regarding the "judging it based on few seconds of the anime" part. No, the animation up till the current episode is bad. So yes, that's why I still say what I say.

Could you please name a couple of these “Generic Isekai” so I can understand your perspective more?

I think isekai might have certain surface level similarities, but they all have a unique spin that they bring to the genre, so I enjoy each one.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
CheliosX said:

Indeed, in most cases, "popularity" does equal "good animation" or else, well, y'know how it is with the TBATE fandom after all the "Mushoku Tensei and Solo Leveling killer" rant before the anime aired. Oof.
And yes, generic isekai do exist, both good and bad. Average included.
Anyways, this fan made anime is going downhill but I'm watching how things will play out in the end, lol.
And regarding the "judging it based on few seconds of the anime" part. No, the animation up till the current episode is bad. So yes, that's why I still say what I say.

Could you please name a couple of these “Generic Isekai” so I can understand your perspective more?

I think isekai might have certain surface level similarities, but they all have a unique spin that they bring to the genre, so I enjoy each one.

These are just my takes so yea; Isekai Cheat Magician, Isekai Cheat Skill, Re:Monster, In Another World With My Smartphone, Death March to a Parallel Rhapsody World, Strongest Sage with the Weakest Crest etc (some here are generic but decent/good).

I enjoy generic isekai and trash isekai too. If it's atrocious af, then I might just skip out.
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CheliosX said:
ejleon said:

Could you please name a couple of these “Generic Isekai” so I can understand your perspective more?

I think isekai might have certain surface level similarities, but they all have a unique spin that they bring to the genre, so I enjoy each one.

These are just my takes so yea; Isekai Cheat Magician, Isekai Cheat Skill, Re:Monster, In Another World With My Smartphone, Death March to a Parallel Rhapsody World, Strongest Sage with the Weakest Crest etc (some here are generic but decent/good).

I enjoy generic isekai and trash isekai too. If it's atrocious af, then I might just skip out.

Ok, I can understand why you’d have these as “generic isekai”, but if I’m remembering the titles to the anime, I like all of these stories.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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ejleon said:
CheliosX said:

These are just my takes so yea; Isekai Cheat Magician, Isekai Cheat Skill, Re:Monster, In Another World With My Smartphone, Death March to a Parallel Rhapsody World, Strongest Sage with the Weakest Crest etc (some here are generic but decent/good).

I enjoy generic isekai and trash isekai too. If it's atrocious af, then I might just skip out.

Ok, I can understand why you’d have these as “generic isekai”, but if I’m remembering the titles to the anime, I like all of these stories.

It's fine if you like them. I also like some of them even though they're generic while the others I hate cause I found them mid or trash.
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I dont understand why people are saying that the anime doesn't do the story justice. The story itself is dogshit and this atrocious adaptation is perfect for it.
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I dont understand why people are saying that the anime doesn't do the story justice. The story itself is dogshit and this atrocious adaptation is perfect for it.
@EvolKarma Because many tbate fans are generic viewers who have only read manhwa and battle shonen in their lives, so they have no idea what a well-written story looks like, and they even think that the manhwa is well-drawn because it's in color... Kentaro Miura, forgive them because they don't know what really beautiful drawings look like.
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Despite it's low rating here, it's still one of the most popular shows this season and there some shows that are getting good ratings, but will never hit 50k by the end of this spring season.
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Despite it's low rating here, it's still one of the most popular shows this season and there some shows that are getting good ratings, but will never hit 50k by the end of this spring season.
@Scyfher Based on what data? The absolutely reliable ones found on reddit?
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@Scyfher Based on what data? The absolutely reliable ones found on reddit?
@Geracchio just going off of numbers from here.
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You people are absurd and toxic. No wonder a show that would typically be ~7.25-7.50ish on MAL is over 2 full points below that

Buncha dumbasses
@HagePotPotato i actually agree with you lololol. I've been wondering why are the rates for anime in these years became so low. Probs because of their standard or their expectations were too high. I'm not saying like there's no need to set your standards and expectations high but see-- The ratings sometimes became too biased, except for the anime with a really good animations or from a big studios...
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@HagePotPotato i actually agree with you lololol. I've been wondering why are the rates for anime in these years became so low. Probs because of their standard or their expectations were too high. I'm not saying like there's no need to set your standards and expectations high but see-- The ratings sometimes became too biased, except for the anime with a really good animations or from a big studios...

@Fuyudesuwa My standards are high but I tend to lower my standards on anime with lots of episodes, for example, an anime like Naruto, Bleach, One Piss, etc... will always have shitty looking ugly episodes because those animes have hundreds of episodes and you just can't keep the quality up with so many episodes, it's impossible, it will have some good looking episodes here and there but most of the time the episodes will be mid/average and ugly if we include the filler episodes in there. These types of animes are quantity instead of quality, so I tend to go a lot easier on them.

HOWEVER, I don't go that easily on short seasonal animes with 12 or 24 episodes. The least I expect from short animes is good animation, I don't lower my standards here, if they fail and they provide average animation or worse, then I usually shit on them and almost always leave a bad rating no matter how good the story is. I'm watching an anime here, and animation matters.
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@Geracchio just going off of numbers from here.
@Scyfher If you are referring to the number of users who voted for it, there are only twenty thousand, it is extremely difficult for them to reach fifty thousand by the end of the season, furthermore this number must be contextualized, in particular on two factors:
1: The number of people who vote for the anime is totally irrelevant, the producers are interested in other data, which however are in the hands of the distribution sites and are often not made public (if not after a long time).
2: Even if we wanted to consider this number... It is very low considering that it is a series that in theory should have a very established and numerous fan base (in the USA, mostly).

Maybe the series is really doing well in terms of views, but since there is no certain data it is impossible to say, at least currently.
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this anime beat the promise neverland now btw
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