[Oshi No Ko]
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Reply to thefanartfreak
you clearly have no idea how teenage depression and cyberbullyung works, people on the internet are absolutely ruthless, even tiny mistakes will make people despise you and say awful things, as someone who's dealt with somewhat similar situations to her, she feels very realistic. Sure you can just "turn the phone off" but when somsone says horrible things to you, telling you you're the worst and that you should off yourself, the words continue to linger and eatat your mind, and also considering the pressure of being on TV, teens and child actors especially will get criticized nonstop by the masses.
we aren't built for that level of attention, that amount of insults and death threats, it's a very hard and complicated situation, just "getting help" isn't that simple.
Plus as we all know, she does change throughout the show.
If you are going to make threads like this, I'd highly suggest actually looking into mental health and the different effects it has on people and things like that before going on an insensitive rant.
Not everyone can just "get better" or "toughen up" in the blink of an eye,that's not how people work. It's a long and tedious process.
we aren't built for that level of attention, that amount of insults and death threats, it's a very hard and complicated situation, just "getting help" isn't that simple.
Plus as we all know, she does change throughout the show.
If you are going to make threads like this, I'd highly suggest actually looking into mental health and the different effects it has on people and things like that before going on an insensitive rant.
Not everyone can just "get better" or "toughen up" in the blink of an eye,that's not how people work. It's a long and tedious process.
| @thefanartfreak oh im sorry i thought these forums are for discussion? theres nothing wrong with having a problem with an episode, i just want to clear up my sort of issues with the ep but now thinking i guess i was too harsh Mainly i didnt like this type of of character that are timid or shy idk why it annoys me but then again if she was not in the industry and just a normal school that got cyberbully than i would sympathise her, but this time shes an actor you choose to be here shouldnt you realise that its not gonna be easy? |
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Reply to JannisT
Natsude_tanaka said:
Can anyone help me understand why its good not hating but open minded lol
First things first, i find this ep as message about cyber bullying and i do find it realistic and important.
(So far oshi no ko has been ok nothing major really)
BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SYMPATHISE AKANE AT ALL.
Why?
1. i think she's an idiot who cant take advantage of a situation. Like after the scene with yuki (which btw was illogical), akane has already apologised to yuki and she accepts it. Surely, she realises that 'huh, this is my chance to be sort of a yander or a villain esque character' and make this series interesting?
2. her mom asked her twice 'are u ok?' And she doenst reach out to her at all. Like mannn share your burden with your mom or even the manager. I find it hard to understand why she didnt.
3. she's in a dating show, why cant she take this as a step to change her personality? Idk if she was forced or whatever dude need to realise that you have to face it. you want this career, no?
I get this shes in her teens i guess but i think its hard for me to sympathise her when all she does is put herself in a bubble and victimising herself.
I think its more of me not been in her postion and thats true and im not sitting here saying chill bro or anything because this can happen to other people, but i feel the show could show more of action from her character.
Again, i find it this message is realistic esp the jap audiences are very cruel with their comments but man akane lol
Can anyone help me understand why its good not hating but open minded lol
First things first, i find this ep as message about cyber bullying and i do find it realistic and important.
(So far oshi no ko has been ok nothing major really)
BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SYMPATHISE AKANE AT ALL.
Why?
1. i think she's an idiot who cant take advantage of a situation. Like after the scene with yuki (which btw was illogical), akane has already apologised to yuki and she accepts it. Surely, she realises that 'huh, this is my chance to be sort of a yander or a villain esque character' and make this series interesting?
2. her mom asked her twice 'are u ok?' And she doenst reach out to her at all. Like mannn share your burden with your mom or even the manager. I find it hard to understand why she didnt.
3. she's in a dating show, why cant she take this as a step to change her personality? Idk if she was forced or whatever dude need to realise that you have to face it. you want this career, no?
I get this shes in her teens i guess but i think its hard for me to sympathise her when all she does is put herself in a bubble and victimising herself.
I think its more of me not been in her postion and thats true and im not sitting here saying chill bro or anything because this can happen to other people, but i feel the show could show more of action from her character.
Again, i find it this message is realistic esp the jap audiences are very cruel with their comments but man akane lol
I can tell you never suffered from depression, what a shit take
| @JannisT i dont think its a shit take considering she looked for it. Why are u on the internet after what you saw? Plus its just questions that ppl can help me understand better. I didnt say ahh why are u depress kid? I just nitpick and thats it. Obv i retracted back this things ive said but still the next ep for whatever she can imitate ai but why she didnt study a character like that before, to put on for the series? |
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| i fucking hate loathe Natsude_tanaka's takes and everyone else should too. each and every ""opinion"" of this mofo are full of bullshit. |
Serfort30Apr 13, 2:32 AM
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| Hard agree, the scratcher gets way too much hype. Team Arima Kana all the way. |
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Natsude_tanaka said: Can anyone help me understand why its good not hating but open minded lol First things first, i find this ep as message about cyber bullying and i do find it realistic and important. (So far oshi no ko has been ok nothing major really) BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SYMPATHISE AKANE AT ALL. Why? 1. i think she's an idiot who cant take advantage of a situation. Like after the scene with yuki (which btw was illogical), akane has already apologised to yuki and she accepts it. Surely, she realises that 'huh, this is my chance to be sort of a yander or a villain esque character' and make this series interesting? 2. her mom asked her twice 'are u ok?' And she doenst reach out to her at all. Like mannn share your burden with your mom or even the manager. I find it hard to understand why she didnt. 3. she's in a dating show, why cant she take this as a step to change her personality? Idk if she was forced or whatever dude need to realise that you have to face it. you want this career, no? I get this shes in her teens i guess but i think its hard for me to sympathise her when all she does is put herself in a bubble and victimising herself. I think its more of me not been in her postion and thats true and im not sitting here saying chill bro or anything because this can happen to other people, but i feel the show could show more of action from her character. Again, i find it this message is realistic esp the jap audiences are very cruel with their comments but man akane lol I don't think you need to like Akane as a character or understand the psychology behind things to be able to sympathise with her How you ended the post explains it best, you haven't been in her position, and i assume you don't have knowledge on human psychology either That said, although it's understandable that it's hard to understand her motives and/or connect to the character without any knowledge or personal experience of her situation, the way you phrased your post does come off as very self centered and out of touch It's a lot of "why didn't she do this or that?" "why is she behaving illogically?" whithout taking into acount that different people will react differently to different situations based on their personality, their upbringing, their mental state Some of the reasons behind her behaviour also get revealed in later episodes/seasons, like her relationship with her parents and why she might not feel comfortable telling her mom |
DigiCatApr 13, 3:40 AM
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| you lack empathy. you aren't supposed to sympathize with Akane. You're supposed to emphasize. you wouldn't get the picture if I had to sit you for hours in front of the Louvre. |
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| She is a kid. Akane will do eta more problematic thing in the future but blaming her for being victim of cyber bullying. Some people just can't consult everything with their parents and they don't want them involved. |
You're the one who literally voiced your opinion on this, lol. If you didn't like it, that's fine, but you shouldn't have said, "You shouldn't like it too." Criticise but don't impose |
Reply to brandonmontego69
Natsude_tanaka said:
Can anyone help me understand why its good not hating but open minded lol
First things first, i find this ep as message about cyber bullying and i do find it realistic and important.
(So far oshi no ko has been ok nothing major really)
BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SYMPATHISE AKANE AT ALL.
Why?
1. i think she's an idiot who cant take advantage of a situation. Like after the scene with yuki (which btw was illogical), akane has already apologised to yuki and she accepts it. Surely, she realises that 'huh, this is my chance to be sort of a yander or a villain esque character' and make this series interesting?
2. her mom asked her twice 'are u ok?' And she doenst reach out to her at all. Like mannn share your burden with your mom or even the manager. I find it hard to understand why she didnt.
3. she's in a dating show, why cant she take this as a step to change her personality? Idk if she was forced or whatever dude need to realise that you have to face it. you want this career, no?
I get this shes in her teens i guess but i think its hard for me to sympathise her when all she does is put herself in a bubble and victimising herself.
I think its more of me not been in her postion and thats true and im not sitting here saying chill bro or anything because this can happen to other people, but i feel the show could show more of action from her character.
Again, i find it this message is realistic esp the jap audiences are very cruel with their comments but man akane lol
Can anyone help me understand why its good not hating but open minded lol
First things first, i find this ep as message about cyber bullying and i do find it realistic and important.
(So far oshi no ko has been ok nothing major really)
BUT I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SYMPATHISE AKANE AT ALL.
Why?
1. i think she's an idiot who cant take advantage of a situation. Like after the scene with yuki (which btw was illogical), akane has already apologised to yuki and she accepts it. Surely, she realises that 'huh, this is my chance to be sort of a yander or a villain esque character' and make this series interesting?
2. her mom asked her twice 'are u ok?' And she doenst reach out to her at all. Like mannn share your burden with your mom or even the manager. I find it hard to understand why she didnt.
3. she's in a dating show, why cant she take this as a step to change her personality? Idk if she was forced or whatever dude need to realise that you have to face it. you want this career, no?
I get this shes in her teens i guess but i think its hard for me to sympathise her when all she does is put herself in a bubble and victimising herself.
I think its more of me not been in her postion and thats true and im not sitting here saying chill bro or anything because this can happen to other people, but i feel the show could show more of action from her character.
Again, i find it this message is realistic esp the jap audiences are very cruel with their comments but man akane lol
just a loser chronically online troll
| @brandonmontego69 boohoo says the guy that thought charlotte is a masterpiece lol Wait?! Me troll? Arent you a troll as well hahaha |
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Reply to Dc4vp127
On another topic, this episode actually caused a pretty huge controversy when it was released as it so closely mirrored an actual event that ended in the suicide of a real person. I think it's a pretty good episode but it felt kinda out of place to me so I looked it up. Anyway even if it doesn't seem realistic stuff like this does actually happen in the real world and unfortunately a large majority of time people treat stars like they're asking for it and alot of their mental health issues fall on deaf ears. Anyway, I'm sorry the episode/show isn't for you and hope you find an anime you enjoy more in the future.
| @Dc4vp127 but its weird how she turned out to be alright in the very next ep which make me even more co fused to why she didnt just adopt this in the beginning? |
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| Crazy take honestly “why didn’t you instantly pivot and try and take advantage of this thing you did that could destroy your career whether you try to work with it or not” is take 1. That’s insane. Take 2 is even worse like you realise people who have anxiety or depression or panic attacks or are suicidal OFTEN do not reach out for various reasons one of which being they don’t want to trouble others with their problems. Like A LOT of people irl this applies too. Take 3 has the same problems as take 1. But honestly that second take is insane it’s like saying “why are people depressed just stop thinking badly about yourself and go fix it.” |
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