What was the point of season 3? (Spoilers for whole season)

@lessfull 1. ongoing mystery theorized to be pandora though just speculation
2.who the fuck said the glutonies eat names in different ways? We literally see the gluttony fighting otto and beatrice eat names and then julius comes in with his name eaten learn how to watch smh
3. Aldebaran
4. Idfk
5. Like what is the problem with this? This is just a coincedence they happen in real life

@Puppiesss well we already talked about all of these, so I don't think there is need to discuss it futher, but either way:


Well we currently have 5 different types of "being eaten":
1. Completely erased from existance with personal belongings (Rem in 1st season)
2. ^ same, but with body in the comatose state remain (Rem)
3. Everyone forgets about specific person (Julius)
4. Person forgets himself (Crusch)
5. Everyone forget about the person, person himself dissapear, but it's somehow possible to know someone disappeared (warriors who died ages ago fighting Whale)
That's too much of leeway for the singular power. So I raised a question in s3 e16 why we have walking-talking Julius while Rem is sleeping, and got convenient but believable speculative answer that "different aspects of Gluttony eat differently". It was kinda logical because of the dropped words like "gourmet" and alikes, while still barrely being possible to at least say: 3/5 ways to eat names are for Gluttonies and 2/5 are for the Whale with/without his mist.
But it raised other question: why Crusch and Rem were eaten differently while fighting literally at the same place with the same Gluttony? The answer is either "power does what it needs to do for the plot", which is definition of a plothole (at least my personal definition), or aspects changed midfight, which I cannot believe and still see as a plothole because "it happened just because"


It could've explain the drowning just barely (I mean Al should have rescued him almost immediately for it to work, but from what we saw about him going through underwater streams, I just can't see that being possible)
But the problem about falling from 3rd floor was in the Capella fight, there was no Al at that point yet.


Sure, but that was too much of a stretch for me, so I couldn't believe it. During whole 3rd season there were a lot of things like that, so it accumulated in the end and became unbelievable.

@Okeanix

That's exactly the problem MyllerPhiem mentioned. It's quite easy to fix plotholes by saying "yeah, that deus ex machina did the thing but we don't know yet". Sure in the retrospective for a hardcore fan it would feel good, but when these "we don't know yet" piling up so much - it becomes plotholes and not a foreshadowing.



Now that's even more confusing now. When Gluttony was fighting all this time he needed a name to do anything (it was especially stressed in the s3 last 2 episodes with "who is Otto" joke and even more strongly with "Fern name isn't Fern" situation). Also Al himself (future Subaru or whatnot stated it too), so if now Gluttony can eat without the name then it's even more incosistent. Answer of "that's how it works when name is assumed by memories of the others" also don't work because of last 2 eps of 3rd season because of these white knight being forgotten left and right.



Well my definition of plothole is all the inconsistencies, deus ex machinas and "huh, why?" in the series, so for me this is also a plothole. Same was with Rem in ~14ep in s1 when she got her head twisted in the cave by unseen hand and yet still was alive. I can't stretch my disbelief suspension to that extent.
Anyway, "Suba more durable" - he is still supposed to be just a human. If athlete dropped on his back from 3rd storey - he will be at the very least vegeatable till the death.



Because there are 2 possibilities.
Either that "stability" was used only once just for that moment which makes it deus ex machina.
Or it was active all the time, but for some reason once again it worked only in that specific moment which is also deus ex machina.
Same goes for Tea effect being not permanent. Once again it would be very convenient for it being drunk 2 eps ago, work just in time for prevent soul from breaking, just so it stopped working moments later.

But anyway, about "two as same", probably my bad with the example, so I could change it to:
- Subaru biting off his tongue / same scene but earlier when he recollecting his traumas
- Subaru has his arm torn off by Pride
I don't know about you, but I can safely put it in the same busket as "being rabbitted" but much lighter, so "stability" should work much better with these ones


No, I'm talking about scene when Wilhelm was fighting his wife and in the end Reinhard had to kill her. s3 ep14 I assume. There for some unexplicable reason Heinkel just poof-ed up in the right moment just to hinder Wilhelm and make whole subplot happen. There was no reason for him to appear there mainly for 2 reason:
1. It's a whole city. Chances for randomly appear in the right momemnt and the right time and in the fight of the right people (your family) is extremly slim
2. He is weakling and coward. He even tried to extort Reinhard for protection using Fern. So there is no reason for him roaming the city where fighting happening left and right. He should be covered in fear in some house or something to that extent. Yeah, I know he is a knight commander or something, but from what show showed about him, I cannot even slightly imagine him going around the town like that.


I won't. The more I think about plotholes - the more I don't like Re:Zero. Let me retain some ounce of hope for the series

@lessfull ah about the stability thing it was stated that i was due to the sloth witch factor and he would only be stabilized so long as he could remember being in the tea party and the stabilization had only prevented his soul from shattering due to being unable to get a grasp on reality. Also wdym arm torn off by pride

@Puppiesss
The problem I have with that what it's just too convoluted for my tastes. Like it's a special device which does one specific thing once and will never be seing again. Deus ex machina in the wild so to speak. And there are a lot of them unfortunately.
E.g. in the 3rd season Priscilla suddenly survived death-blows by transfering it to the necklace. It's just feels cheap. I wouldn't even be surprised if that power will be never seen again.


I'm talking about when Subaru wanted to talk to Witch of Gluttony, she switched places with other witches and the first was Pride. Subaru did a handshake and got his hand torn off. Even just in that ep there were about 5 things which were way to random/convenient so I related them to plotholes. But let's stop with the tea party specifically

1. How is it possbile to Subaru handshake Gluttony when literally second ago he was warned to not touch Witch? Like imagine telling someone "don't touch that boiling water" and you just proceed to put your hand in it seconds later. That just doesn't make sense except for plot of "let's show that Witches are scary"

2. Witches never needed to switch places and could have come together. But for some reason in that particular scene they never do. There was no reason for Pride to disappear when Wrath showed up. There was no reason for Gluttony wait for Wrath to disappear. There was no reason for Wrath to disappear when she actually came out of her way to heal Subaru after Pride's doings.

@lessfull Stop trolling m8.

Touch the grass.

Imagine calling Priscilla's ability "deus ex machina"

You have no idea what you talking about.

Want me to answer other nonsense you wrote about Gluttony?

@Okeanix man, can you be less abnoxious? Instead of just answering/discussing or whatnot, you just trying out different ways to insult me instead as if your're the superiour human being. Your obession with ReZero isn't health at all

@lessfull I will if you stop trolling like "Why Priscilla used her ability in her first fight! It's deux ex machina!"

Btw Priscilla could easily kill Wrath if she didn't have this since she try to avoid killing Wrath until Lilliana saves the people from her authority.

But ofc you didn't understand that, simplest thing of the episode.

I don't understand how come any bit of criticism is an immediate bait/trolling/whatnot. I can even predict your answer for that "if it is a good criticism then it isn't trolling", which I would argue with "you're blind for any ReZero problems so there is no good criticism in your mind because ReZero is a perfection for you", and then you'll argue with something else or again call me names, so let's just pretend we already argued that and move on.


I don't understand how you came to that conclusion. I knew that. My problem is with power to avoid death-blow itself. But really, what do you want from me? As you yourself said, ReZero is perfect, it has no problems e.t.c. e.t.c. So what are you trying to do arguing with me? Clearly I won't be able to make you see my point of view, clearly you won't be able to make me see your point of view just by calling be names or defining every criticism as a trolling or baiting. So what's the purpose other than just arouse negativity here?

The babies, whiners, and low IQ folk have have descended in abundance. Shouldn’t you all be watching your shounen or something instead of bothering the adults with your bitterness?

@lessfull There is no arguments, you are just horrible troll.

Calling a character using her power as "FLAW"

Zero logic as expected from Re:Zero hater.

@Okeanix if you want people to take you seriously, then give counterarguments instead of shouting "troll".

I'm not even a hater. I enjoyed the first two seasons and was expecting to enjoy this one.

This season was 90% battle shounen, and that's exactly why some of us are complaining.

@Draaloff How to give argument to "There is a plot hole because character using her power"?

@Okeanix not sure about a "plot hole", but deus ex machina is bad writing.

@Draaloff Explain how it's battle shounen?

Also even if it was battle shounen how it makes it bad?

Re:Zero has to be same plot & drama every arc? What about people that going to cry why it's repeating same thing?

See you have no vision.

@Okeanix Google: battle shonen definition
"Battle Shonen" refers to a subgenre of shonen anime and manga that primarily focuses on action and battles, with stories often centered around characters who gain power and overcome obstacles through fighting and training.
That sums up the majority of season 3.

It's bad because this is very different to the previous 2 seasons and not what a lot of viewers came to watch.

Your baseless insult at the end was unnecessary and says a lot about you as a person.

This season was 90% battle shounen, and that's exactly why some of us are complaining.

@Draaloff Zero media literacy.


Who gained power? Who trained?

The main obstacles weren’t overcome through fighting either. The central battle of the season was against Regulus Corneas, and that fight is literal proof that brute strength is meaningless — even the strongest, Reinhard, couldn’t do anything to him.


No, it doesn’t. Season 3 follows the main storyline, and we see well-developed characters paying off, showcasing their growth in this arc — starting with Subaru and Emilia.


Season 2 is different from Season 1 — just like Season 3 is different from both.

Re:Zero has over 10 genres. It doesn't need to constantly repeat the main character dying, especially when one of the core lessons learned in Season 2 is the value of life. How is Season 3 actions different than White Whale fight, Garfiel vs. Elsa, Elsa vs. Reinhard, Elsa vs. Emilia, Subaru & Julius vs. Betelgeuse, Wilhelm’s action scenes, and more?

Every Re:Zero season had plenty action and multiple character fights. How first two seasons are "not battle shounen"

Season 3 following the values established in previous arcs doesn’t make it bad. On the contrary, it shows that the story respects its own narrative and that character development actually matters.

Thanks for proving that the hate towards Season 3 comes from people who have no media literacy and don’t understand what Re:Zero really is.

Re:Zero isn’t just Subaru looping or dying over and over — it’s a dark fantasy epic that blends over 10 genres, features 100+ characters, and delivers everything from deep worldbuilding to meaningful side character arcs. It’s not about "Return by Death." Season 2 Part 2 proves that. Season 3 proves that. The upcoming arcs in the novel prove that. If you're just looking for torture porn, then I’m sorry — but that’s not Re:Zero.

You’ve basically dismissed every value and development in the first two seasons, yet you defend them — without even understanding what they truly were about.

Okay?

@Okeanix Google: battle shonen definition
"Battle Shonen" refers to a subgenre of shonen anime and manga that primarily focuses on action and battles, with stories often centered around characters who gain power and overcome obstacles through fighting and training.
That sums up the majority of season 3.

It's bad because this is very different to the previous 2 seasons and not what a lot of viewers came to watch.

Your baseless insult at the end was unnecessary and says a lot about you as a person.

@Draaloff are berserk and kingdom battle shonen then? fights does not equal battle shonen lmao

@mohamedo_abuduru Correct, fights alone does not equal battle shounen.

But season 3 is groups of people fighting and very little else.

@Draaloff so... what does equal battle shonen then? you're calling re:zero battle shonen because it's "just fighting" and then you say fights alone isn't what determines if it's battle shonen. also, season 3 is "groups of people fighting and very little else?" the entire first hour and a half episode passed without much action. and the fights themselves contain more dialogue than the average anime episode. you're just complaining about anything. try reading between the lines a little bit, because this season was filled with key character moments and mystery development that you obviously either missed or don't care about.

The babies, whiners, and low IQ folk have have descended in abundance. Shouldn’t you all be watching your shounen or something instead of bothering the adults with your bitterness?

@NoviSun You probably wish your supposed "adult" IQ was high enough to actually answer him lmao. Also, no one is bothering your smart ass, so move on please.

@Puppiesss
The problem I have with that what it's just too convoluted for my tastes. Like it's a special device which does one specific thing once and will never be seing again. Deus ex machina in the wild so to speak. And there are a lot of them unfortunately.
E.g. in the 3rd season Priscilla suddenly survived death-blows by transfering it to the necklace. It's just feels cheap. I wouldn't even be surprised if that power will be never seen again.


I'm talking about when Subaru wanted to talk to Witch of Gluttony, she switched places with other witches and the first was Pride. Subaru did a handshake and got his hand torn off. Even just in that ep there were about 5 things which were way to random/convenient so I related them to plotholes. But let's stop with the tea party specifically

1. How is it possbile to Subaru handshake Gluttony when literally second ago he was warned to not touch Witch? Like imagine telling someone "don't touch that boiling water" and you just proceed to put your hand in it seconds later. That just doesn't make sense except for plot of "let's show that Witches are scary"

2. Witches never needed to switch places and could have come together. But for some reason in that particular scene they never do. There was no reason for Pride to disappear when Wrath showed up. There was no reason for Gluttony wait for Wrath to disappear. There was no reason for Wrath to disappear when she actually came out of her way to heal Subaru after Pride's doings.

@Puppiesss
The problem I have with that what it's just too convoluted for my tastes. Like it's a special device which does one specific thing once and will never be seing again. Deus ex machina in the wild so to speak. And there are a lot of them unfortunately.
E.g. in the 3rd season Priscilla suddenly survived death-blows by transfering it to the necklace. It's just feels cheap. I wouldn't even be surprised if that power will be never seen again.


I'm talking about when Subaru wanted to talk to Witch of Gluttony, she switched places with other witches and the first was Pride. Subaru did a handshake and got his hand torn off. Even just in that ep there were about 5 things which were way to random/convenient so I related them to plotholes. But let's stop with the tea party specifically

1. How is it possbile to Subaru handshake Gluttony when literally second ago he was warned to not touch Witch? Like imagine telling someone "don't touch that boiling water" and you just proceed to put your hand in it seconds later. That just doesn't make sense except for plot of "let's show that Witches are scary"

2. Witches never needed to switch places and could have come together. But for some reason in that particular scene they never do. There was no reason for Pride to disappear when Wrath showed up. There was no reason for Gluttony wait for Wrath to disappear. There was no reason for Wrath to disappear when she actually came out of her way to heal Subaru after Pride's doings.