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TBATE πŸ—£πŸ—£πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―
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OVERLORD, ReZero, and Konosuba >>>
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RatFromTheSewer said:
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I have not seen TBATE. I will not vote Mushoku Tensei nor Re Zero as greatest isekai.

Cannot comment on Re Zero because my biggest criticism is that the story is way too long. Japan has reached volume 39.

Mushoku Tensei stands out from the other 2010s isekai due to character development. However, I won’t call it the greatest isekai because there are other isekai titles that have far more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei.

My current vote for the greatest isekai is an eroge from 2000s.

Many LN/WN readers I know pick Lord Of The Mysteries as the greatest isekai over Mushoku Tensei but I have not read LOTM yet~

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-fi).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(
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My top 3 are mushoku , re zero , and slime. TBATE can crack that top 3 seeing how great it’s going but let’s see
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Re:Zero - Yes!
TBATE - I don't know what this is.
Mushoku Tensei - No.


My top 3 Isekai are — 1) Re:Zero 2) Ascendance of the Bookworm 3) Sonny Boy
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No.
Jobless was a solid 7/6 for the two parts of season one respectively but it didn't make me rush to watch what came after. I still haven't continued it even though I have the rest waiting.
That second one hasn't even begin airing.
Re:Zero is fucking garbage.

The best isekai are, in no order:
Grimgar
Uncle from Another World
Ascendance of a Bookworm
Sonny Boy

Horrible taste (character limit)

Says the person that has Hitler as 2 of their 4 favourite characters.
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StyxParadise said:
Re:Zero - Yes!
TBATE - I don't know what this is.
Mushoku Tensei - No.


My top 3 Isekai are — 1) Re:Zero 2) Ascendance of the Bookworm 3) Sonny Boy

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NewestPersonHere said:
RatFromTheSewer said:

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-if).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(

and why does It have such a low score? and thats not true that ppl arent familiar with sci-fi, if we consider code geass, Guren Laguun and others also good mecha sci-fi. It cant possibly have a Better character development and world Building than MTπŸ˜‚, good troll anyway, you made me laugh, what are going to Say next? that Highschool of the dead has the best plot?
Muv-Luv has 2 seasons, One with a score of 5.60 and the other 6.52, so It doesnt have even a 7. but what can a fanatic like you that only likes mecha understand?
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i haven't read tbate so can't comment on that, but frankly mushoku should never be in the same room as re:zero when we're talking about writing. mushoku fans can stay mad, but you simply cannot have a "redemption" story about the main character growing when the fact that he is literally a pedophile, and tries to groom and borderline sexually assault multiple underage girls throughout the show, does not change at all, and isn't even addressed. what you basically have is a story about an antisocial depressed neet, who gets reincarnated into the new world with a handsome appearance and big cock, into a wealthy family, and with OP magic abilities. his parents give him a magic tutor who he nonstop sexually harasses, (not to mention she looks like 13) but it's okay i guess because she finds it endearing or somthing. she's often used as a glazing tool to highlight rudy's overwhelming talent, but i'll give the show credit where credits due, their interactions aren't that bad, since it does serve to give rudy some nice character development, allowing him to overcome his shut-in tendencies and fear of the outside world. which, what do you know, he immediately uses to be an actual groomer, since he can actually find people to groom now instead of being a shut-in. he rescues the poor elf girl being harassed by bullies, and then... yeah, he pretty much grooms her. and of course, this is irrelevant, and they end up getting married later, actually. dad realizes his son is groommaxxing and sends him off to work for his university tuition (based) and then naturally, he meets another loli, this one a tsundere. fast forward one episode, and what do you know, he's sexually harassing her in her sleep, and literally tries to have sex with her, even knowing she doesn't really want it. she immediately forgives him of course, what a well written story. rudeus consistently treats everyone like npcs, is highly manipulative, and the entirety of his development as a character is based on social aspects of his personality, he never changes his pedo tendencies. in fact, they're pretty much rewarded by the story. mushoku is basically a power fantasy, albeit one with a generally decent storyline and worldbuilding. rudeus is gifted everything he needs to succeed in his new life, which frankly, undermines the entire point of the story in my eyes, not even factoring in the pedo shit.

i do agree here,, story wise , world building, others characters are fine ,,but i don't like rudy ,,, the only thing that bothers me in harem show is that when mc cheats on his gf and that gf forgives him because he is the only one for him...or random bullshit plot armour,,, when it comes to harem shows i like MC's like rentaro from 100gf,, or Cid ( who doesn't care about anyone but everyone loves him ,he doesn't hide from anyone) these are extreme thinks that I can accept..but rudy HELL NO..

i loved season 1 ,,,but they actually doesn't make redeem mc in many ways ,,like you mentioned...

this is one of the main reason that mushoku is not one of my favourites...the show is good in many ways but firstly i prefer mc to be good ,,if he does bad thing then give a actual reason for it not some random things,,for example when rudy had a*x with tsundare girl ,i didn't expect that ,,,,i don't know why he took that decision,,,that was way too bad for me..
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NewestPersonHere said:
RatFromTheSewer said:

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-if).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(

and why does It have such a low score? and thats not true that ppl arent familiar with sci-fi, if we consider code geass, Guren Laguun and others also good mecha sci-fi. It cant possibly have a Better character development and world Building than MTπŸ˜‚, good troll anyway, you made me laugh, what are going to Say next? that Highschool of the dead has the best plot?
Muv-Luv has 2 seasons, One with a score of 5.60 and the other 6.52, so It doesnt have even a 7. but what can a fanatic like you that only likes mecha understand?
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.

you should have said It, pretty good score, never played It tho.
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.

you should have said It, pretty good score, never played It tho.
@SuntProstMare

I mentioned 'eroge'.
Eroge = Erotic game

All erotic games are visual novels.
VNs tend to have terrible adaptations so I don't look at MAL scores for VNs.
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no way in hell i am putting mushowhatever on the same level as rezero. that show is one of the worst things i had the displeasure of watching. the only reason i sat through 40+ episodes of that garbage is because the fans kept saying the awful pedo mc "gets better" so i kept watching only to see him cheating on his wife on top of basically getting away with all the disgusting shit did in the eariler episodes. not to mention all the female characters were shallow and one dimensional who kept forgiving that horny asshole despite him harassing them multiple times. fuck that show.

i looked up tbafte and apparently it's some korean manwha that only recently got an anime announced. why'd you put that in the op when it's not even out yet?
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don't really know what tbate is but most isakais are garbage so naturally the other two aren't anything special.
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Re:Zero is really good but it is barely an isekai. It doesn't care too much about the fact that the MC has been transmigrated into another world. It would be virtually the same if MC was some random resident of the world where Re:Zero is set.

Also, TBATE is just a more boring version of Mushoku Tensei.

In addition to Mushoku Tensei, maybe Kage no Jitsuryokusha and Konosuba can be considered GOATs of Isekai.

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My 3 goats of isekai are
Re Zero
Isekai Ojisan
Konosuba

Thank you for enlightening me on ojisan!!!!!! I just binged it because of you
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I would say overlord rezero mushoku tensei the eminence in shadow goats of isekai
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I have never heard of TBATE in my life, so who cares

Re Zero is the GOAT tho 100%

Mushoku was really good as well. However I wasn't a big fan of Rudy as a main character.
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Anime? Debateable.
Novel? Mushoku Tensei beats R:Z hard.
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.
@NewestPersonHere Are you buying a VN with the anime? That's quite unfair, they are different media.
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don't really know what tbate is but most isakais are garbage so naturally the other two aren't anything special.
@ryzxgum This extends to most anime, or do you think all mecha are good.
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Δ°TS a manwha and is Peak fiction

ohh , is that so . might have to check out then

it also has a light novel
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it also has a light novel
It's a web novel.
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@ryzxgum This extends to most anime, or do you think all mecha are good.
@1000-MAT yes, from the ones i've seen, most mecha are good. thanks for shining light on the glaring contrast.
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@1000-MAT yes, from the ones i've seen, most mecha are good. thanks for shining light on the glaring contrast.

because you only watched the good ones, Just for comparison, there are 400 anime with the isekai tag on MAL, and more than 1200 anime with the mecha tag. Most mecha anime are from the time when all the profit came from selling toys, so the quality of many is questionable.

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@1000-MAT yes, from the ones i've seen, most mecha are good. thanks for shining light on the glaring contrast.

because you only watched the good ones, Just for comparison, there are 400 anime with the isekai tag on MAL, and more than 1200 anime with the mecha tag. Most mecha anime are from the time when all the profit came from selling toys, so the quality of many is questionable.

@1000-MAT

Mecha tag is used way too loosely on mal and mal tags are not really accurate
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JoeChip said:
@1000-MAT

Mecha tag is used way too loosely on mal and mal tags are not really accurate

There are some mistakes, but it is inevitable that from the 80s to the 2000s the anime of the moment was mecha, One of the reasons for this was that the current system of production committees did not yet exist, with EVA being responsible for this model, before the profit came from anime toys.
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Serfort30 said:
no way in hell i am putting mushowhatever on the same level as rezero. that show is one of the worst things i had the displeasure of watching. the only reason i sat through 40+ episodes of that garbage is because the fans kept saying the awful pedo mc "gets better" so i kept watching only to see him cheating on his wife on top of basically getting away with all the disgusting shit did in the eariler episodes. not to mention all the female characters were shallow and one dimensional who kept forgiving that horny asshole despite him harassing them multiple times. fuck that show.

i looked up tbafte and apparently it's some korean manwha that only recently got an anime announced. why'd you put that in the op when it's not even out yet?

everyone does that's why it's the highest rated isekai LN/Manga out there ...
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@1000-MAT yes, from the ones i've seen, most mecha are good. thanks for shining light on the glaring contrast.

because you only watched the good ones, Just for comparison, there are 400 anime with the isekai tag on MAL, and more than 1200 anime with the mecha tag. Most mecha anime are from the time when all the profit came from selling toys, so the quality of many is questionable.

@1000-MAT that should be obvious, the fact i've not seen every anime out of any specific genre doesn't need to be stated because i'm pretty sure no one has. not like there's a rule that states you're only allowed to have preferences of a genre/theme after watching all of it lol. only possible to talk about the mecha i have seen- which range from great to good and maybe a few misses. meanwhile isekai, where there's constant disappointments and i'm yet to find anything great.
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no way in hell i am putting mushowhatever on the same level as rezero. that show is one of the worst things i had the displeasure of watching. the only reason i sat through 40+ episodes of that garbage is because the fans kept saying the awful pedo mc "gets better" so i kept watching only to see him cheating on his wife on top of basically getting away with all the disgusting shit did in the eariler episodes. not to mention all the female characters were shallow and one dimensional who kept forgiving that horny asshole despite him harassing them multiple times. fuck that show.

i looked up tbafte and apparently it's some korean manwha that only recently got an anime announced. why'd you put that in the op when it's not even out yet?

everyone does that's why it's the highest rated isekai LN/Manga out there ...
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rating =/= quality. there are so many crap on this site with high ratings but not all of them are good. this being one of the biggest examples. fans hype this shit up like it's some kind of genuis story but in reality it's nothing but another wish fulfillment harem garbage disguised as a so-called "redemption story" (he never really redeems himself)
also spammimg emoji? "cry more"? what are you a 5 year old?
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@NewestPersonHere Are you buying a VN with the anime? That's quite unfair, they are different media.
@1000-MAT

The OP asks for goat isekai, so I picked an eroge, regardless of media~
Shirogane Takeru in 70 hours of VN has more character development than Rudeus Greyrat 26 volumes. :)

In terms of LN, I think there are only 2 isekai protagonists that have more character development than Rudeus if I recall correctly~


If there are anymore LNs with an isekai protagonist that has more character development than Rudeus, let me know, I will check it out regardless of media~

People are still recommending me LOTM. :/
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No.
Jobless was a solid 7/6 for the two parts of season one respectively but it didn't make me rush to watch what came after. I still haven't continued it even though I have the rest waiting.
That second one hasn't even begin airing.
Re:Zero is fucking garbage.

The best isekai are, in no order:
Grimgar
Uncle from Another World
Ascendance of a Bookworm
Sonny Boy

Horrible taste (character limit)

Says the person that has Hitler as 2 of their 4 favourite characters.
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@N1nj4L1nk hes just the goat idk what to tell you

Hitler most certainly is not the goat, you're fucked up.
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