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TBATE πŸ—£πŸ—£πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―πŸ—£πŸ’―
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OVERLORD, ReZero, and Konosuba >>>
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RatFromTheSewer said:
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I have not seen TBATE. I will not vote Mushoku Tensei nor Re Zero as greatest isekai.

Cannot comment on Re Zero because my biggest criticism is that the story is way too long. Japan has reached volume 39.

Mushoku Tensei stands out from the other 2010s isekai due to character development. However, I won’t call it the greatest isekai because there are other isekai titles that have far more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei.

My current vote for the greatest isekai is an eroge from 2000s.

Many LN/WN readers I know pick Lord Of The Mysteries as the greatest isekai over Mushoku Tensei but I have not read LOTM yet~

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-fi).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(
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My top 3 are mushoku , re zero , and slime. TBATE can crack that top 3 seeing how great it’s going but let’s see
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Re:Zero - Yes!
TBATE - I don't know what this is.
Mushoku Tensei - No.


My top 3 Isekai are — 1) Re:Zero 2) Ascendance of the Bookworm 3) Sonny Boy
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No.
Jobless was a solid 7/6 for the two parts of season one respectively but it didn't make me rush to watch what came after. I still haven't continued it even though I have the rest waiting.
That second one hasn't even begin airing.
Re:Zero is fucking garbage.

The best isekai are, in no order:
Grimgar
Uncle from Another World
Ascendance of a Bookworm
Sonny Boy

Horrible taste (character limit)

Says the person that has Hitler as 2 of their 4 favourite characters.
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StyxParadise said:
Re:Zero - Yes!
TBATE - I don't know what this is.
Mushoku Tensei - No.


My top 3 Isekai are — 1) Re:Zero 2) Ascendance of the Bookworm 3) Sonny Boy

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NewestPersonHere said:
RatFromTheSewer said:

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-if).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(

and why does It have such a low score? and thats not true that ppl arent familiar with sci-fi, if we consider code geass, Guren Laguun and others also good mecha sci-fi. It cant possibly have a Better character development and world Building than MTπŸ˜‚, good troll anyway, you made me laugh, what are going to Say next? that Highschool of the dead has the best plot?
Muv-Luv has 2 seasons, One with a score of 5.60 and the other 6.52, so It doesnt have even a 7. but what can a fanatic like you that only likes mecha understand?
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mohamedo_abuduru said:
i haven't read tbate so can't comment on that, but frankly mushoku should never be in the same room as re:zero when we're talking about writing. mushoku fans can stay mad, but you simply cannot have a "redemption" story about the main character growing when the fact that he is literally a pedophile, and tries to groom and borderline sexually assault multiple underage girls throughout the show, does not change at all, and isn't even addressed. what you basically have is a story about an antisocial depressed neet, who gets reincarnated into the new world with a handsome appearance and big cock, into a wealthy family, and with OP magic abilities. his parents give him a magic tutor who he nonstop sexually harasses, (not to mention she looks like 13) but it's okay i guess because she finds it endearing or somthing. she's often used as a glazing tool to highlight rudy's overwhelming talent, but i'll give the show credit where credits due, their interactions aren't that bad, since it does serve to give rudy some nice character development, allowing him to overcome his shut-in tendencies and fear of the outside world. which, what do you know, he immediately uses to be an actual groomer, since he can actually find people to groom now instead of being a shut-in. he rescues the poor elf girl being harassed by bullies, and then... yeah, he pretty much grooms her. and of course, this is irrelevant, and they end up getting married later, actually. dad realizes his son is groommaxxing and sends him off to work for his university tuition (based) and then naturally, he meets another loli, this one a tsundere. fast forward one episode, and what do you know, he's sexually harassing her in her sleep, and literally tries to have sex with her, even knowing she doesn't really want it. she immediately forgives him of course, what a well written story. rudeus consistently treats everyone like npcs, is highly manipulative, and the entirety of his development as a character is based on social aspects of his personality, he never changes his pedo tendencies. in fact, they're pretty much rewarded by the story. mushoku is basically a power fantasy, albeit one with a generally decent storyline and worldbuilding. rudeus is gifted everything he needs to succeed in his new life, which frankly, undermines the entire point of the story in my eyes, not even factoring in the pedo shit.

i do agree here,, story wise , world building, others characters are fine ,,but i don't like rudy ,,, the only thing that bothers me in harem show is that when mc cheats on his gf and that gf forgives him because he is the only one for him...or random bullshit plot armour,,, when it comes to harem shows i like MC's like rentaro from 100gf,, or Cid ( who doesn't care about anyone but everyone loves him ,he doesn't hide from anyone) these are extreme thinks that I can accept..but rudy HELL NO..

i loved season 1 ,,,but they actually doesn't make redeem mc in many ways ,,like you mentioned...

this is one of the main reason that mushoku is not one of my favourites...the show is good in many ways but firstly i prefer mc to be good ,,if he does bad thing then give a actual reason for it not some random things,,for example when rudy had a*x with tsundare girl ,i didn't expect that ,,,,i don't know why he took that decision,,,that was way too bad for me..
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NewestPersonHere said:
RatFromTheSewer said:

And the name of this eroge is?

The name of the isekai eroge is Muv-Luv.
Has more world building and character development than Mushoku Tensei but suffers from slow start and high bars of entry (audience needs a lot of experience in sci-if).

Try not to mention too much about this eroge in anime/manga forums. Based on my past experience, mentioning about this eroge will get attacked by toxic AOT fanboys (because these people are in denial that Isayama Hajime confessed to ripping off Muv-Luv to create AOT). :(

and why does It have such a low score? and thats not true that ppl arent familiar with sci-fi, if we consider code geass, Guren Laguun and others also good mecha sci-fi. It cant possibly have a Better character development and world Building than MTπŸ˜‚, good troll anyway, you made me laugh, what are going to Say next? that Highschool of the dead has the best plot?
Muv-Luv has 2 seasons, One with a score of 5.60 and the other 6.52, so It doesnt have even a 7. but what can a fanatic like you that only likes mecha understand?
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.

you should have said It, pretty good score, never played It tho.
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Are you talking about MAL anime scores? I am talking about the VN, not the anime.
If you want to check VN scores, go to VNDB, not MAL because MAL does not have VN scores.

you should have said It, pretty good score, never played It tho.
@SuntProstMare

I mentioned 'eroge'.
Eroge = Erotic game

All erotic games are visual novels.
VNs tend to have terrible adaptations so I don't look at MAL scores for VNs.
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no way in hell i am putting mushowhatever on the same level as rezero. that show is one of the worst things i had the displeasure of watching. the only reason i sat through 40+ episodes of that garbage is because the fans kept saying the awful pedo mc "gets better" so i kept watching only to see him cheating on his wife on top of basically getting away with all the disgusting shit did in the eariler episodes. not to mention all the female characters were shallow and one dimensional who kept forgiving that horny asshole despite him harassing them multiple times. fuck that show.

i looked up tbafte and apparently it's some korean manwha that only recently got an anime announced. why'd you put that in the op when it's not even out yet?
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don't really know what tbate is but most isakais are garbage so naturally the other two aren't anything special.
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Re:Zero is really good but it is barely an isekai. It doesn't care too much about the fact that the MC has been transmigrated into another world. It would be virtually the same if MC was some random resident of the world where Re:Zero is set.

Also, TBATE is just a more boring version of Mushoku Tensei.

In addition to Mushoku Tensei, maybe Kage no Jitsuryokusha and Konosuba can be considered GOATs of Isekai.

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My 3 goats of isekai are
Re Zero
Isekai Ojisan
Konosuba

Thank you for enlightening me on ojisan!!!!!! I just binged it because of you
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I would say overlord rezero mushoku tensei the eminence in shadow goats of isekai
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