TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: I didn't say it was the hype over over one dimensional characters, just the show. The jokes are repetitive and not funny, which consists of sexually harassing komi, simping, and stalking. If you got rid of everyone but Komi and Tadano it woulf actually be a decent show. Saiki k was actually funny and changed up its jokes, plus as you stated is a parody. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.You can't understand the hype about "one-dimensional characters" in Komi-san, but still love the over-the-top parody of Sol shonen Saiki Kusuo? That is, it's just a subjective "it's funnier"? OK. The fact that Komi-san is also a parody and that the Saiki characters are also mostly gimmick-bound is irrelevant, I guess. |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: So... it's fine to parody sexual assault, stalking, and being creepy in general? Pretty poor topics to joke about if you ask me.That is, it's just a subjective "it's funnier"? OK. The fact that Komi-san is also a parody and that the Saiki characters are also mostly gimmick-bound is irrelevant, I guess. No, it's okay to parody the psycho lesbian type. You try to criticize the show because it's "problematic", but because of this you don't see point-blank that it parodies homophobic stereotypes. |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: I don't see anywhere where Komi is tagged as a parody. You're the only one I've seen to to call it such. It's main tags are romance, slice of life, and comedy. Just because it's a "parody" doesn't mean it should make fun of certain topics. Comparing Saiki K that parodies shounen and a show that parodies all these poor topics is different in my eyes. Plus I'm not sure why you're bringing in what shows I like into this conversation, because their both parodies apparently? I like when parodies are done right. Atleast Saiki K characters go through some development and are likeable. No, it's okay to parody the psycho lesbian type. You try to criticize the show because it's "problematic", but because of this you don't see point-blank that it parodies homophobic stereotypes. Well, if Komi doesn't have that tag on MAL, then it disproves that she's a parody, yes. Lol. Dude, you're just acting like those woke alarmists who accused The Adventures of Hucklebury Finn of racism because of the n-word. Although the book is literally one of the main works of criticism of racism. Developed? In Saiki? Lol who? |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: You know why it's not tagged as a parody? Because it isn't one. You have your opinions and I have mine. I don't think serious topics that hurt people's mental health and even kill them in the real world are good things to joke about. Sorry if that makes me a snowflake or whatever but that's just how I feel. Just like you have the right state your opinion, I have the right to state mine. Well, if Komi doesn't have that tag on MAL, then it disproves that she's a parody, yes. Lol. Dude, you're just acting like those woke alarmists who accused The Adventures of Hucklebury Finn of racism because of the n-word. Although the book is literally one of the main works of criticism of racism. Developed? In Saiki? Lol who? The main character for one. Him opening up and thanking his friends for being there was pretty wholesome to watch, when he usually wants them to go away. "That's because it's only your opinion!" So, Kobayashi's maid doesn't have a yuri tag because it's a straight show? OK. That is, this is purely your subjective opinion, which does not apply to the actual quality of the show? Q.E.D. Main character lol. Komi also becomes more open and sociable. What's next? |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: You're literally the only one that calls its a parody. Nobody else does. Your argument is weak. Just because one person says it is this genre doesn't make it suddenly that genre. Comedy doesn't always equal parody."That's because it's only your opinion!" So, Kobayashi's maid doesn't have a yuri tag because it's a straight show? OK. That is, this is purely your subjective opinion, which does not apply to the actual quality of the show? Q.E.D. Main character lol. Komi also becomes more open and sociable. What's next? Komi learns to communicate? Where? The only time she tried is when she talked on the phone with Tadano. Otherwise she just does a chibi face and doesn't even speak for over half the show. I haven't watched s2 yet so I can't speak for that. So, Kobayashi's maid isn't yuri because it doesn't have a tag? Okay, I understand you. Now I will criticize anyone who calls it yuri, because the MAL page does not have such tags. What a weak argument. "I haven't watched s2 yet so I can't speak for that." - And you're still trying to argue with me about character development lol. |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: Like I said. The difference is that nobody calls Komi a parody. Everyone talks about the yuri vibes from that show, though that consists of the one girl having a crush on Kanna and Tohru being all over Kobyashi, which is cute but I'd hardly call that show a yuri for that. If anything it's the same as banana fish were the romance isn't the main driving force of the show and brought up every once in a while in the story. Yuri and yaoi the main focus is the romance while in the two shows mentioned, thats not the case as they focus on other plot points. So, Kobayashi's maid isn't yuri because it doesn't have a tag? Okay, I understand you. Now I will criticize anyone who calls it yuri, because the MAL page does not have such tags. What a weak argument. "I haven't watched s2 yet so I can't speak for that." - And you're still trying to argue with me about character development lol. Yes because I would prefer to watch shows that actually interest me than ones that i didn't like. I guess I'm a terrible person for doing that but, from what I've heard s2 is as bad as s1, so I can't wait for that. In all honesty I'm not sure why you replied to my messages, I wasn't the only one that said they agreed and didn't like the show lol. Like last time he keeps messaging me to prove subjective or ignorant ideas @ asks why I keep replying to his messages - lol you never change. Again, it amuses me how you yourself admit that you have no special interest in Komi and at the same time declare with pretentious certainty who calls the show a parody and who does not. I heard the season was bad and didn't watch it. So I will confidently state something about it- lol. |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: I like how you can't respond to any of what I said my last post and instead just declare I have no knowledge on the show because I haven't watched s2. I actually planned to watch it with a friend so I'll find out soon enough. Thanks for being such a wonderful conversation partner, truly there is not many like you.Like last time he keeps messaging me to prove subjective or ignorant ideas @ asks why I keep replying to his messages - lol you never change. Again, it amuses me how you yourself admit that you have no special interest in Komi and at the same time declare with pretentious certainty who calls the show a parody and who does not. I heard the season was bad and didn't watch it. So I will confidently state something about it- lol. Ignore my irony about expert opinions about a show you don't like and don't watch @ trying to divert attention by accusing me of ignoring your words - lol, arguing is clearly not your forte, seriously. |
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TinaTunaTina said: RobertBobert said: Your whole point was about how Kobyashi doesn't have a yuri tag yet it's yuri, yet I responded to that and you said nothing but saying I don't know a thing about Komi since I haven't watched s2. You've yet to explain to me why it's fine to "parody" topics such as sexual assault, stalking, being obsessive over a person to the point you kidnap their friends and try to murder them. Ignore my irony about expert opinions about a show you don't like and don't watch @ trying to divert attention by accusing me of ignoring your words - lol, arguing is clearly not your forte, seriously. I honestly don't like arguing because everyone has opinions and I don't like to trample them either way, but your first post was basically like, oh but you like Saiki k so you can't talk about how bad Komi is, which is a terrible argument. I'm pretty much done talking to you at this point. You just seem to like to push people's buttons from other interactions I've seen in the forums and I ain't about that. Now you are trying to simply reiterate your thesis, presenting it as a complete and proven position with the help of suitable formulations. I think it would be classic to write "classic". You don't like to argue, but you keep lame arguing like this every time someone disagrees with you. And every time you end up accusing your opponent of "pushing buttons". This is exactly what I mean by "disputes are clearly not your forte". Don't do this if you don't know how. |
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| The One-san character is also relatively normal, but I absolutely see your point. Let's also keep in mind that this is a gag manga. Unhealthy relationship is kind of common in manga and anime to a degree. |
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sailorday- said: RobertBobert said: Now you are trying to simply reiterate your thesis, presenting it as a complete and proven position with the help of suitable formulations. I think it would be classic to write "classic". You don't like to argue, but you keep lame arguing like this every time someone disagrees with you. And every time you end up accusing your opponent of "pushing buttons". This is exactly what I mean by "disputes are clearly not your forte". Don't do this if you don't know how. i promise u dude it’s not that deep 😐 we’re all gonna have our thoughts about this show depending on humor and what we like. just personally the whole stalker and sexual harassment thing while becoming friends doesn’t work very well in this sort of wholesome show. i didn’t think the comedy went well in the show including the repetition of jokes. like bro all the person said is he didn’t find it funny or enjoyable and doesn’t like the show. but u wanted to make it a huge problem cause some random cant agree with u. then proceeded to blame it on him when u started this whole thing lmaooo. like it’s a show holy shit. touch grass. I love how you try to shame me for accusing that girl and at the same time build two-thirds of the comment on the accusations against me. Really, touch grass. |
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sailorday- said: RobertBobert said: dude ur like 30 whining about a show. maybe if u didn’t reply to their comment just by them simply disliking the show and throwing a tantrum i would feel sympathy. once they said they didn’t like komi cant communicate the little baby threw a tantrum cause he finds another show funnier.I love how you try to shame me for accusing that girl and at the same time build two-thirds of the comment on the accusations against me. Really, touch grass. First of all, she whined about the show, I just made fun of it. Secondly, what are you doing if my last comment in a thread was 8 hours ago and you are just attacking me because my opinion was different from yours and your girlfriend? You're just projecting your behavior onto me and trying to shame me for what you're actually doing lol. |
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sailorday- said: RobertBobert said: i’m not attacking u. i just said stop trying to start shit with ppl u don’t agree with like ur a grown man. and play this victim mentally when u went out ur way to argue with her but blame her for basically not agreeing with u. but you what they say “it’s hard to beat a smart person in an argument. but it’s impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” lolFirst of all, she whined about the show, I just made fun of it. Secondly, what are you doing if my last comment in a thread was 8 hours ago and you are just attacking me because my opinion was different from yours and your girlfriend? You're just projecting your behavior onto me and trying to shame me for what you're actually doing lol. I'm not attacking you, I just said stop - my last post in this thread was 8 hours ago. And now you're pushing me hard with accusations and blatant gaslighting. Including directly insulting me, calling me a "stupid person." Seriously, take your very first tip and touch the grass. You are too toxic. |
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| Except for Tadano, Onemine and the deliquent guy, I just wanted the others to fuck off as soon as possible. You could keep Najimi if you wanted. After the field trip I got 2 more out of the banned list. |
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BlackShonen said: choisok said: I would also add onemine (older sister) to that list.I personally think the Kyoto trip girls are definitely Komi’s actual friends, along with Najimi and Tadano. Not sure about the rest of them. Thats basically correct but the fact is, example you wouldnt really want a tsundere friend in real life. Imagine getting slapped or physically abused for dumb stuff. Some tropes in fiction does not translate to real world at all. |
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| For heaven's sake, it's a dumb school romantic comedy, not some serious show |
| Komi is a story about a professional female model in high school who everyone craves. She doesn't have to talk back to people because her physical attributes are so astounding. She should literally be with an ad agency/modeling firm instead of high school. Except for one special boy...who has conversations for her. He is basically her lapdog. He's like her personal hype man. Everyone knows the model doesn't get with the hype man in real life. No one f###s below their class. But the manga is really funny because of this. If you think about it, Tadano-kun is her tout. |
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sailorday- said: SgtBateMan said: yeah sorry i’m not really fully caught up i haven’t watched season 2 yetExcept for Tadano, Onemine and the deliquent guy, I just wanted the others to fuck off as soon as possible. You could keep Najimi if you wanted. After the field trip I got 2 more out of the banned list. Well, you don't have to watch the second cour, to be more precise, so as to say most of them should pack their stuffs and take a leave. |
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