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ANALDEFILER said:
YAY FINALLY. LOGH is so shallow compared to After Story anyway. And After Story has great animation, whereas LOGH is hard to look at. Ater Story SHOULD be no.1 since it's the only anime to ever make me cry seriously ;_;


I sense sarcasm.
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
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I think you might like it, champ.
Yeah, but you gotta understand, I like crappy anime. I mean, I gave Shakugan no Shana a 9, can you believe that shit?

Meh. You rated a few of my favourite things high, so you have Good and Shit taste rolled into one.

:D!
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That makes sense.

Really, it does.

Clannad is clearly the superior series.

I'm not joking.

Honestly.

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Because Clannad AS is a second season, people who disliked Clannad will not have watched (rated) it. People who did like Clannad have probably rated it equally high or higher than they rated Clannad.

Same goes for the Runouni Kenshin OVA and Code Geass R2.
I say screw the top list, Ryushi is right.
Sep 9, 2009 11:12 PM

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Whats so special about being Clannad After Story ranked number in MAL?
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NOTE: MAL is not a credible rating site. XD
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RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it.

Sep 9, 2009 11:32 PM

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Nice. After Story is one of my favorites.
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I rarely ever give a 10 in my rankings. Clannad afterstory got that 10 O_o

Last I knew it was ranked 3. I understand the *ending* could only been seen as good, or bad depending on your perception.

But moving past that, Clannad Ending spoiler -->


I dont mind hearing its ranked 1 now. But ranking doesnt mean much apart from giving you an average of the general MAL population. Always going to have people that <3 it, and always have people who will bash it.
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Clannad ~AS~ is also my favorite anime #1. So I guess I should be happy that it now took the spot from LotGH :)
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A nice reminder that the MAL scores really don't mean shit. Enjoy your Clannaids MAL.

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Defiance on 6/12/09 said:
I actually can't wait for it to hit rank one. Then I will have a bona fide reason to criticize MALs scores lol.
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Lol
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For great justice.
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lkl said:
Whats so special about being Clannad After Story ranked number in MAL?


Nothing really, it's just that some people here like to overreact when their favorite show is outranked by a show they dislike. Personally, I find it hilarious.
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burntlettuce said:
Congratulations one of the most overrated animes is now ranked number 1.


Pretty much my response. Of course my reply to this notion is to ask whether it's going to lead to anything productive like more people watching either show, to which I can almost answer immediately myself with a resounding "NO!". Gotta love popularity contests and fanboys.

It's funny because if all the Clannad fans who think the show is a masterpiece (i.e Moonfrost) were really confident in that standpoint then they probably shouldn't need to express it in such a shallow manner (as some sort of vindication or something) in order to feel justified in their belief. They'd just feel it and that would be enough, kind of like how I feel that LOGH speaks to me far more than Clannad After Story ever did and thus will always place higher in my own personal scoresheet which is the only one that matters to me in the long run and with good reason.

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One Piece?


If it ever ends, quite possibly.


Okay apparently no except for Splitter here. Keep in mind that LOGH is like 99% dialogue driven and you pretty much have to have a moderate understanding of politics in order for it to mean anything to you. Clannad AS is without a doubt the more approachable of the two series since it is meant to appeal directly to the basic instincts (sex appeal, emotion, angst etc.) whereas LOGH tackles multiple issues on multiple levels and frequently tackles them at the same time so it can be a lot more difficult to follow what is going on.

Anyway If I absolutely had to measure them up against one another I'd say Clannad AS provides cheap thrills, emotional rollercoasters, and laughs and passes the time well enough with one really good arc before the end, while LOGH provides a more thought provoking experience over a long sometimes slow paced story that challenges the viewers conception of what the progression of events all mean and on a much grander scale than most anime will ever try to tackle. Also in LOGH when one event happens it tends to affect another, which tends to affect another and so on until it sometimes affects people on the other side of the conflict all the way across the galaxy (civilians, soldiers, politicians and people on all levels of society, which we actually get to see), whereas in Clannad After Story the individual girls arcs tend to be largely self-contained making it easy to focus on whatever story they are trying to tell at the time. Once each girls problem is solved however they tend to get pushed out of the story in terms of relevance but for a few future gimmick appearances, whereas with LOGH people tend to come and go as the story shifts it's focus to them, which sometimes can lead to an entire episode without a main character appearing even once, but more than likely when they come back they'll quickly become relevant to the narrative again for some time to come.

Of course I admit a bit of a bias here since I like stories told on a grand scale with lots of political intrigue and complexity, but hopefully I've been fair to both shows as best I can in my position.

Fun Fact: On the same day Clannad After Story took the top spot from LOGH on MAL's rankings, LOGH took the top spot from Clannad After Story on Animedb's rankings. This means that if they want people can now fight over which poll is more important, or they can realize that it's just a poll and not turn it into a competition.
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Defiance said:
A nice reminder that the MAL scores really don't mean shit. Enjoy your Clannaids MAL.


Damn, I usually call it Crapnnad, but Clannaids is 1000x better.


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It is popular. Get over it you faggots.
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Mod, tell me if i could troll. Please...
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burntlettuce said:
Congratulations one of the most overrated animes is now ranked number 1.


huh?? It's not overrated!!

IMO I think it desrves at the top 5 spot...

and I hope no naruto and bleach..heheh

i wish evangelion get a higher rank
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ezaya said:
burntlettuce said:
Congratulations one of the most overrated animes is now ranked number 1.


huh?? It's not overrated!!

IMO I think it desrves at the top 5 spot...

and I hope no naruto and bleach..heheh

i wish evangelion get a higher rank

It is overrated, even more so than Clannad.
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ezaya said:
and I hope no naruto and bleach..heheh

Yesssss, i'm with you.
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i wish evangelion get a higher rank

Noooo, not again.

In all seriousness, i think it's overrated. It's prequel is better IMHO.
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What's wrong with eva??

I Just don't get it why people love naruto or bleach than one piece,eva or FMA...
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ezaya said:
What's wrong with eva??

I Just don't get it why people love naruto or bleach than one piece,eva or FMA...

Don't get me wrong, I like Eva (and hate Bleach/Naruto/One Piece), but it isn't "best anime ever" material.
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Haylias said:
but it isn't "best anime ever" material.
Please tell me you are not suggesting that Clannad is more so.
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Haylias said:
ezaya said:
What's wrong with eva??

I Just don't get it why people love naruto or bleach than one piece,eva or FMA...

Don't get me wrong, I like Eva (and hate Bleach/Naruto/One Piece), but it isn't "best anime ever" material.


Neither is Legend of Galactic Heroes, I mean can any series be called the best ever and everyone is going to take it seriously? No.. I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong, though, I like both LotGH, Clannad, and Eva. But, no anime should be considered "the best". Especially when two of those series are already classics.
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Defiance said:
Haylias said:
but it isn't "best anime ever" material.
Please tell me you are not suggesting that Clannad is more so.

No I am not. Where did I ever imply that?

insan3soldiern said:
Haylias said:
ezaya said:
What's wrong with eva??

I Just don't get it why people love naruto or bleach than one piece,eva or FMA...

Don't get me wrong, I like Eva (and hate Bleach/Naruto/One Piece), but it isn't "best anime ever" material.


Neither is Legend of Galactic Heroes, I mean can any series be called the best ever and everyone is going to take it seriously? No.. I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong, though, I like both LotGH, Clannad, and Eva. But, no anime should be considered "the best". Especially when two of those series are already classics.

Of course, taste is subjective. I think the "top rated" list is just to give people who are new to anime a kind of heads up to what the majority think are great shows. Obviously not everyone is going to agree.

If I had it my way my Top 5 favourite shows would dominate the top spots, but of course people would disagree.
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Haylias said:
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but it isn't "best anime ever" material.
Please tell me you are not suggesting that Clannad is more so.

No I am not. Where did I ever imply that?
*looks at the thread title* >_>

You also defended the MAL ranking of it just a few posts back by saying and I quote "get over it you faggots."
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It's really a shame to see its rank ^^'

So many fanboys...
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Defiance said:
Haylias said:
Defiance said:
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but it isn't "best anime ever" material.
Please tell me you are not suggesting that Clannad is more so.

No I am not. Where did I ever imply that?
*looks at the thread title* >_>

You also defended the MAL ranking of it just a few posts back by saying and I quote "get over it you faggots."

I also said that Clannad was overrated. I was telling people not to cut themselves over a rating on the fucking internet which is only probably due to a large amount of troll accounts pulling it (LoGH) down.
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well,,I think no one should hate Eva or LOTGH...
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ezaya said:
well,,I think no one should hate Eva or LOTGH...

They can hate it they want.
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well,,they only watch naruto,,so that is why they love it very much..
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
Also Clannad: After Story is not "overrated", but not for the reason you think, it's rated as it should be because it "sold" .


I'd say it's quite strange to see the amount of acount whose only show rated is CAS and gave him a 10...

Admin should do something about that.
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ANALDEFILER said:
YAY FINALLY. LOGH is so shallow compared to After Story anyway. And After Story has great animation, whereas LOGH is hard to look at. Ater Story SHOULD be no.1 since it's the only anime to ever make me cry seriously ;_;


The characters were all guys too, where are my kawaii waifus? What a sausagefest.
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
ezaya said:
What's wrong with eva??
It was the grandest troll ever, it makes Endless Eight seem like pandering.
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I Just don't get it why people love naruto or bleach than one piece,eva or FMA...
Because they have wider appeal and more exposure, pretty fucking simple, they're all on the same level to me mind you.

Also Clannad: After Story is not "overrated", but not for the reason you think, it's rated as it should be because it "sold" (metaphorically, we're all thieves here, in this case) to it audience, and it clearly did so well.


I have no idea what you mean by calling Eva a "troll". It was never intended to be a normal Mecha anime in the first place, so maybe you thought it would be and were not happy with it. As for the ending, well, that's a matter of taste.

I do understand, what you mean about Clannad and I agree with you.
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well i'm satisfied at the ending,,everyone is free to give their own interpretation,,,
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
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I have no idea what you mean by calling Eva a "troll". It was never intended to be a normal Mecha anime in the first place, so maybe you thought it would be and were not happy with it. As for the ending, well, that's a matter of taste.
I would imagine it's not a typical mecha anime, due to the fact that it's not a mecha anime. It's OK if you can't see the troll, most can't.

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I do understand, what you mean about Clannad and I agree with you.
I don't mean it about Clannad, just to be clear, I think all anime get what they deserve.


I kind of wish you'd reiterate about this troll business. Because, to me, it sounds like your being a dick. And, I know it isn't mecha, but it appears to be to those who haven't seen it.
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wow that's great ^^
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I'm wondering...where's Baman? I miss him him extolling the virtues of LOTGH.
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TsukikageRan said:
I'm wondering...where's Baman? I miss him him extolling the virtues of LOTGH.


LOL.. me too.
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Splitter said:
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One Piece?


If it ever ends, quite possibly.


Okay apparently no except for Splitter here. Keep in mind that LOGH is like 99% dialogue driven and you pretty much have to have a moderate understanding of politics in order for it to mean anything to you. Clannad AS is without a doubt the more approachable of the two series since it is meant to appeal directly to the basic instincts (sex appeal, emotion, angst etc.) whereas LOGH tackles multiple issues on multiple levels and frequently tackles them at the same time so it can be a lot more difficult to follow what is going on.

Anyway If I absolutely had to measure them up against one another I'd say Clannad AS provides cheap thrills, emotional rollercoasters, and laughs and passes the time well enough with one really good arc before the end, while LOGH provides a more thought provoking experience over a long sometimes slow paced story that challenges the viewers conception of what the progression of events all mean and on a much grander scale than most anime will ever try to tackle. Also in LOGH when one event happens it tends to affect another, which tends to affect another and so on until it sometimes affects people on the other side of the conflict all the way across the galaxy (civilians, soldiers, politicians and people on all levels of society, which we actually get to see), whereas in Clannad After Story the individual girls arcs tend to be largely self-contained making it easy to focus on whatever story they are trying to tell at the time. Once each girls problem is solved however they tend to get pushed out of the story in terms of relevance but for a few future gimmick appearances, whereas with LOGH people tend to come and go as the story shifts it's focus to them, which sometimes can lead to an entire episode without a main character appearing even once, but more than likely when they come back they'll quickly become relevant to the narrative again for some time to come.

Of course I admit a bit of a bias here since I like stories told on a grand scale with lots of political intrigue and complexity, but hopefully I've been fair to both shows as best I can in my position.

Fun Fact: On the same day Clannad After Story took the top spot from LOGH on MAL's rankings, LOGH took the top spot from Clannad After Story on Animedb's rankings. This means that if they want people can now fight over which poll is more important, or they can realize that it's just a poll and not turn it into a competition.

Now that's a fucking great post.
And I also noticed the switch around on anidb too. I'd mention ANN's rankings too...but...you know..

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ANALDEFILER said:
YAY FINALLY. LOGH is so shallow compared to After Story anyway. And After Story has great animation, whereas LOGH is hard to look at. Ater Story SHOULD be no.1 since it's the only anime to ever make me cry seriously ;_;


The characters were all guys too, where are my kawaii waifus? What a sausagefest.

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Lol, this seems like a war post about rankings now.
Somehow...
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ShadowbladeEdge said:
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And, I know it isn't mecha, but it appears to be to those who haven't seen it.
Then why would you reinforce that conclusion?


Why do you feel the need to point out it isn't mecha in the first place? What did that have to do with anything?
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GUYS!

We're in Anime Discussion, so please try and stay on topic.

If you still want to have your little bitch fest about whether or not Evangelion is mecha or not, go start a thread in spam or the Eva boards.

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GUYS!

We're in Anime Discussion, so please try and stay on topic.

If you still want to have your little bitch fest about whether or not Evangelion is mecha or not, go start a thread in spam or the Eva boards.


Your right. Clannad rocks, my bad.
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insan3soldiern said:
chinlamp said:
GUYS!

We're in Anime Discussion, so please try and stay on topic.

If you still want to have your little bitch fest about whether or not Evangelion is mecha or not, go start a thread in spam or the Eva boards.


Your right. Clannad rocks, my bad.

Will this guy post will end the war?
We'll see soon enough.
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clannad afterstory is awsome, not sure you could say best anime ever but, it definly is amazing.
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Yeah Yeah Clannad is Reeeeeeeeally overrated. 25.000 people that watched and loved it are all idiots that dont know how to watch anime. The rest that KNOW that Clannad sucks at least have some brain. NOT.

Jesus you are all so stupid. Theres no better or worse when it comes to anime. Its all a matter of opinion. If so many people like a show it cant be cause its bad but because its good. There are certain targets for its show. Even Naruto and bleach can be considered good for the audience they are aimed for. So stop usuless fighting
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Yeah Yeah Clannad is Reeeeeeeeally overrated. 25.000 people that watched and loved it are all idiots that dont know how to watch anime. The rest that KNOW that Clannad sucks at least have some brain. NOT.

Jesus you are all so stupid. Theres no better or worse when it comes to anime. Its all a matter of opinion. If so many people like a show it cant be cause its bad but because its good. There are certain targets for its show. Even Naruto and bleach can be considered good for the audience they are aimed for. So stop usuless fighting

The war continues.
Plus dont have to e-rage that badly.
Try'n calm down.
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lol @ this thread. Shouldn't this be moved to spam or something?
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