DramaEnthusiast said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!In short: Anime fans would be like Bronies. ..not exactly sure I agree though. The concept of anime covers so many things compared to the retardedness of MLP that only covers one thing. I doubt the same thing would apply. It would depend which anime gets popular compared to what doesn't. Like.. Would Attack on Titan get popular compared to say.. Your average shonen? It depends. |
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IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: 99% of anime aren't shounen though(or actually what you see as shounen). I don't think you can call 1% of anime being accepted as anime being accepted.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: Video game culture and anime culture is different. Video games span different countries and the ones that have spread are mostly family games and JRPGs right? Visual novels with cute girls and H scenes aren't mainstream in America. The spikey hair, big sword guys that kill demons are. The amount of culture and the nicheness of it is way more apparent in anime, thus it would be harder to spread it.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: But the amount of culture involved is way different.anime is still a part of "nerd" culture in the west just like video games. i dont understand what you mean yes but anime also has emo spiked haired kids fighting demons. it is called all large portion of the shonen genre. again i never said all types of anime will become mainstream but parts of anime will certainly become much more mainstream in the future. i mean the attack on titan manga had some of its volumes on the best sellers list during the summer. the weird stuff will probably stay in obscurity but i am sure that at least part of anime can make it into mainstream i think you over estimate anime's popularity in japan because most anime arent even mainstream in japan. i mean most of us on this site probably know much more about anime than most people in japan. i mean the shonen genre is already the most popular genre in japan. i mean when was the last time you saw a non shonen become super popular? pretty much never. |
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| I just have a hard time believing that anime can't be popular in the west though.. Here's the way I see it. If anything that's going to start the popularization of anime in the west, it'll be things like hollywood to get that shit going and out there. I imagine that the things hollywood are going to go after aren't going to be the stuff that gets anime looked down upon, but instead they'd go after the good stuff, if history was to repeat itself like with Disney has done with a certain studio ghibli movie I forgot the name of. Ponyo or somthing That stuff is going to hit the spotlight first, and that's going to set the standard for those who aren't already into anime, so it's not going to seem as weird to the general public, so more people will get into it. If anything, depending on which anime gets showcased first, it'll be revered if anything, but maybe thats just me thinking optimistically. |
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Korrvo said: I just have a hard time believing that anime can't be popular in the weat though.. Here's the way I see it. If anything that's going to start the popularization of anime in the west, it'll be things like hollywood to get that shit going and out there. I imagine that the things hollywood are going to go after aren't going to be the stuff that gets anime looked down upon, but instead they'd go after the good stuff, if history was to repeat itself like with Disney has done with a certain studio ghibli movie I forgot the name of. Ponyo or somthing That stuff is going to hit the spotlight first, and that's going to set the standard for those who aren't already into anime, so it's not going to seem as weird to the general public, so more people will get into it. If anything, depending on which anime gets showcased first, it'll be revered if anything, but maybe thats just me thinking optimistically. actually hbo has confirmed that they are going to be making a live action version of monster |
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| i'm getting more and more the feeling the dub vs sub war only aply's to native english speaking people... when i was young i watched a few shows in french dub, then growing up i watched the english dubs and few years back i watched the subbed versions... (and neither french or english is my language... hell i watched pokemon in dutch subs and made me almost lose my lunch) can't people just accept that half watches subs and the other half watches dubs... and if you ask why... is their realy a need to go on a fullout offensive because they don't like dubs????? oh and my niece (7 years old) liked the japanes version of the ghibli movies over the english ones :) better tell her that she's a weeaboo -_- |
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mattbenz99 said: I haven't said anything about the popularity of anime in Japan. I just said shounen doesn't make up the majority of anime.i think you over estimate anime's popularity in japan because most anime arent even mainstream in japan. i mean most of us on this site probably know much more about anime than most people in japan. i mean the shonen genre is already the most popular genre in japan. i mean when was the last time you saw a non shonen become super popular? pretty much never. But thanks for proving my point. You want something that's niche even in the country that it's from to become mainstream in another country? That's ridiculous. First of all shounen is not a genre, it's a demographic. Many different genres of anime fall under shounen. Even people from Japan would know that. You're most likely thinking of battle shounens(which is an unofficial genre) as they are the most popular outside of Japan(Naruto, DBZ, etc). Those aren't the most popular. SoL series are probably the most popular. Chibi Maruko chan, Sazae san, etc are more popular. What do you mean by super popular? Like the top 3 or 4 anime in weekly tv ratings aren't shounens. |
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Korrvo said: Relevant http://youtu.be/ryzAJqGDz40 seen it but again he is assuming that the medium as a whole can be mainstream(which i dont think will happen). he also says that if anime gets mainstream we would likely get anime that are like cod. which i think is stupid because i think the cod anime already exists. |
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IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I haven't said anything about the popularity of anime in Japan. I just said shounen doesn't make up the majority of anime.i think you over estimate anime's popularity in japan because most anime arent even mainstream in japan. i mean most of us on this site probably know much more about anime than most people in japan. i mean the shonen genre is already the most popular genre in japan. i mean when was the last time you saw a non shonen become super popular? pretty much never. But thanks for proving my point. You want something that's niche even in the country that it's from to become mainstream in another country? That's ridiculous. First of all shounen is not a genre, it's a demographic. Many different genres of anime fall under shounen. Even people from Japan would know that. You're most likely thinking of battle shounens as they are the most popular outside of Japan(Naruto, DBZ, etc). Those aren't the most popular. SoL series are probably the most popular. Chibi Maruko chan, Sazae san, etc are more popular. What do you mean by super popular? Like the top 3 or 4 anime in weekly tv ratings aren't shounens. can you give me a link to the ratings? |
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mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 |
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DramaEnthusiast said: Dubs are good. Subs are good. This is not Viewer 1: hey are you watching this anime? It's so good. Viewer 2: yeah, I really like the dub. Viewer 1: wtf are you gay? dude u can't watch an anime dubbed cuz sub is original language and better. fuckin dubs shouldn't exist man. Viewer 2: why...? Viewer 1: cuz it's the original language u scrub. man fuck casual viewers, cya. that's what i mean :) can't we just get allong and just acknowledge that people have diffrent tastes :D but then again... starting a topic with the title "Why do some people dislike dubs so much?" is just baiting hardcore (s)/(d)ubbers to start a all out flamewar for what is the best :) |
IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 ok so the top few shows are family/kids shows which makes sense but directly after that you have your one piece and toriko. and those are the big shows that i think can get popular in the west |
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| I wonder how many people who say dubs suck have seen mostly things like the 4kids one piece dub or the soul eater dub |
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Korrvo said: When if i told you the only voice i disliked in the entire soul eater dub was black star.I wonder how many people who say dubs suck have seen mostly things like the 4kids one piece dub or the soul eater dub |
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_wecc said: That one voice about ruined the damn series for me.Korrvo said: When if i told you the only voice i disliked in the entire soul eater dub was black star.I wonder how many people who say dubs suck have seen mostly things like the 4kids one piece dub or the soul eater dub Blue-haired naruto ftl and fml |
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MajinSaga said: If more stuff like Redline, Cowboy Bebop, or Steamboy were made, anime could potentially reach mainstream acceptance. But alas, you have neckbeards in Japan who care too much watching underrage girls doing silly shit to jerk off to. http://myanimelist.net/anime/7897/Issho_ni_Sleeping:_Sleeping_with_Hinako http://myanimelist.net/anime/6392/Issho_ni_Training:_Training_with_Hinako here you go lol |
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Forgetfulness said: How did this topic change from disliking dubs to anime being accepted in the West? because acceptance in the west is an argument that people who watch dubs use |
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mattbenz99 said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/7897/Issho_ni_Sleeping:_Sleeping_with_Hinako http://myanimelist.net/anime/6392/Issho_ni_Training:_Training_with_Hinako here you go lol well I needed to loose a few pounds anyway |
mattbenz99 said: I already said that. But even if those are accepted, that is not the same as anime being accepted as most anime are not battle shounens. You've already said anime is niche even in Japan, I don't see a niche medium in Japan becoming mainstream in America.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 ok so the top few shows are family/kids shows which makes sense but directly after that you have your one piece and toriko. and those are the big shows that i think can get popular in the west |
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IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: I already said that. But even if those are accepted, that is not the same as anime being accepted as most anime are not battle shounens. You've already said anime is niche even in Japan, I don't see a niche medium in Japan becoming mainstream in America.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 ok so the top few shows are family/kids shows which makes sense but directly after that you have your one piece and toriko. and those are the big shows that i think can get popular in the west i guess we will just have to wait and see |
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IntroverTurtle said: Ya i wouldn't consider anime as a whole mainstream until we get to the point that I see Bakemonogatari and Oreimo in walmarts and targets.mattbenz99 said: I already said that. But even if those are accepted, that is not the same as anime being accepted as most anime are not battle shounens. You've already said anime is niche even in Japan, I don't see a niche medium in Japan becoming mainstream in America.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 ok so the top few shows are family/kids shows which makes sense but directly after that you have your one piece and toriko. and those are the big shows that i think can get popular in the west |
_wecc said: IntroverTurtle said: Ya i wouldn't consider anime as a whole mainstream until we get to the point that I see Bakemonogatari and Oreimo in walmarts and targets.mattbenz99 said: I already said that. But even if those are accepted, that is not the same as anime being accepted as most anime are not battle shounens. You've already said anime is niche even in Japan, I don't see a niche medium in Japan becoming mainstream in America.IntroverTurtle said: mattbenz99 said: You don't need the super recent ratings, I believe this is like the top 10 from a year ago.can you give me a link to the ratings? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-09-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-september-10-16 ok so the top few shows are family/kids shows which makes sense but directly after that you have your one piece and toriko. and those are the big shows that i think can get popular in the west well that would be aniplex and there $100 price tag stopping that. i mean walmart isnt going to carry a 12 episode show that costs $100 |
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monster7foot6 said: The reason I like dubs better: I can't stand hearing the Japanese language for long periods of time I can somewhat relate, though there are a few Japanese dubs that I really like, for example, Clannad has an awesome seiyuu cast that I really like, much more than the dub. But yeah. I'm always pro-dub, and unless the dub is unbearably bad (or if I like Japanese dub more, which is rare), then I will always go that route. Being able to see a good anime is great, but being able to see a good anime in my native language, for me, is better. A lot of people hate on dubs because dub actors supposedly lack 'passion', and while I can agree for some actors, there are a lot of VA's who love what they do. For example, take a look at Crispin Freeman! He's been in the anime industry for a loooong time, and he still continues to talk to the fans and even discuss certain shows intellectually (i think he even has this mythology thing of Eva.. I think..). He even has a VA podcast and has a class for teaching people how to Voice Act, so if that's not passion, then I don't know what is. Another reason is that people may be miscast..yeah, that's happens. Well, that also happens in Japanese dubs and in real life movies and TV shows. People complaining about that in dubs should take a reality check. |
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Zelot said: I prefer to think of myself as a warrior against deliberate hateful misinformation and stale talking points recycled from mid-90s Usenet groups (back when this debate was still relevant due to anime being released on $29.99 subbed and $24.99 dubbed VHS tapes). Since that misinformation and those talking points happen go against dubs, I happen to speak in favor of them. But I don't exclusively watch dubs or always default to dubs when they're available.Currently waiting for Majin, mattbenz, and Zalis... (Trying to think of more dub warriors...), this thread will be more entertaining to read when they join. DrGero'sCreation said: It wasn't made in a vacuum though; the people who directed, wrote, and acted in it have done many other dubs before and since Bebop.You should make an exception for Bebop it's not like other dubs. Orsonius said: So it's really more about your dislike of American English than any actual quality of the acting.because they are usually inferior, feel un-natural in an anime environment (which is usually japanese) and always come with this corny sound to them. American dubs for example really annoy me because they really sound too american. JD2411 said: True enough, though I will concede to the sub fans that it's hard to be an in-depth, hardcore anime enthusiast if you only watch dubs.An anime enthusiast is someone who likes anime. Nobody gives a fuck if you like subs or dubs DramaEnthusiast said: I disagree. Imo there was something of a "golden era" from ~2003-2008 when dubbers had gained experience, improved their technology, diversified to numerous studios in CA/TX/NY/Canada, and shook off the pointless heavy edits and cheesier acting that characterized the 90s. But with the industry downturn in 2007 and the subsequent global recession, many companies shut down or stopped doing dubs. The dubs that remain tend to be more of "assembly-line" dubs, dubbing 12-13 episodes at a time where they used to do 3-5. And in the case of Sentai, they just gave up on scriptwriting and started doing rushed subtitle script readthroughs.Correction: Most dubs since 2006 have been amazing. People don't seem to understand what makes a bad dub is if the voice actors cannot portray the character in question right due to personality quirks (Yuno Gasai), or if the lip syncing is off. Yet if you look closely enough, the lip sync on the Japanese version is often no better than the English, or possibly worse.MajinSaga said: Yet you don't seem to have a problem with that content as long as it's wrapped in enough SRSDEEP / HotBlooded!! padding.But alas, you have neckbeards in Japan who care too much watching underrage girls doing silly shit to jerk off to. MajinSaga's list said: All that stuff's okay, but somehow schoolgirls playing guitars and eating cornets is much more scandalous. Bakemonogatari - 9 *features comedic molestation of an elementary school girl (Mayoi), and a middle school girl putting herself on display (Nadeko), and a young high school girl with generally perverted attitudes and actions (Suruga) End of Evangelion - 9 *features canonical masturbation to an underage girl Gurren Lagann - 10 *Yoko's 14, and ultimate moeblob Nia sure doesn't seem much older Serial Experiments Lain - 10 *features graphic talk of a middle school girl masturbating to sexual fantasies about her teacher Re: the weeaboo thing: Disliking dubs and preferring subs doesn't make you a weeaboo. Insisting that subs are always better purely for being "more Japanese" and engaging in blanket hatred and Crystal Ball Criticism of dubs (i.e. "I never watch dubs, but they all suck") does qualify for weeaboo status. |
mattbenz99 said: Zeally said: Everyone hates American VA's because they have a shit budget for a niche medium that is not well received in the West. Also foreign idioms and other cultural idiosyncrasies are difficult to translate and often sound awkward when voiced in English. In this case it isn't necessarily a bad dubbing but a language barrier. Even subs can sound awkward at times, but yea i don't want them to hear the awkwardness. Native language + subs > dubs for any foreign medium *shrugs* without dubs anime will never stop being a niche medium. Implying anime fans want anime to become mainstream and shit like video games have become... I personally want anime to stay a niche medium so the quality has a chance to be good instead of just trying to make as much money as possible. Look at anime of the last view years. Most of it was pandering shit because they all need to make money. But the rare few good ones are still in there because anime is still not the huge Mainstream that other things (like video games) are. weak said: http://myanimelist.net/people/611/Brandon_Potter http://myanimelist.net/people/159/Monica_Rial Brandon and Monica are in every dub ever. I love their voices and acting skills but it's hard not to lose immersion when your brain wants to put their voices to all the other roles they've done. Brandon is in like 25 shows (some of them are just sequels) how is that every dub ever? Or are there only 25 dubs ever made? |
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Zalis said: Indeed, with dubbing more streamlined today it's kind of sad that a lot of series' dubs just don't sound as creative as they used to be. Now everything comes from Texas with the occasional California dub.DramaEnthusiast said: I disagree. Imo there was something of a "golden era" from ~2003-2008 when dubbers had gained experience, improved their technology, diversified to numerous studios in CA/TX/NY/Canada, and shook off the pointless heavy edits and cheesier acting that characterized the 90s. But with the industry downturn in 2007 and the subsequent global recession, many companies shut down or stopped doing dubs. The dubs that remain tend to be more of "assembly-line" dubs, dubbing 12-13 episodes at a time where they used to do 3-5. And in the case of Sentai, they just gave up on scriptwriting and started doing rushed subtitle script readthroughs.Correction: Most dubs since 2006 have been amazing. Fuck Sentai's dubs. They need to hire some actual English script writers. Do people actually buy Sentai's anime for their dubs anyway? I'm curious as to how much Sentai actually profits from one of their typical lazy dubs. |
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Sung-Hwan said: Are you a Japanese viewer? If not, by just casting aside a dub for being a dub you're not only missing out on enjoyment of quality voice acting, you're being a weeaboo. Why did I respond to this kid lmao. Wow how I hate these arguments. A) Not all anime are dubbed. Actually only a small % are. And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. B) Not everyone is from fucking UK/US/AUS/NZ/SA/CA and speaks english as their first language (And therefor also doesn't have access or any emotional attachment to english dubs). C) You are not a weeaboo for liking a medium in its original form. If an american guy/girl would watch Avatar the last Airbender in japanese dub, that would be weeaboo. D) "not only missing out on enjoyment of quality voice acting" Same can be said about anyone who misses out on the JAPANESE quality of voice acting. |
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Orsonius said: It's kind of ironic that you say this during the season that this has happened for the first time. Space Dandy being dubbed and released before it is aired in Japan IIRC.And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Orsonius said: It's kind of ironic that you say this during the season that this has happened for the first time. Space Dandy being dubbed and released before it is aired in Japan IIRC.And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. I didn't even know that. Probably because I don't wanna watch it and generally hate everything the guy ever made. But you know ONE anime out of 30+ every season isn't really what you'd think of as a rule. |
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Orsonius said: I never said it was a rule, I agree with your point(and I believe this is the only time this has happened). I was just pointing out this one time where it's happened and coincidentally you make a post saying it never happens.IntroverTurtle said: Orsonius said: It's kind of ironic that you say this during the season that this has happened for the first time. Space Dandy being dubbed and released before it is aired in Japan IIRC.And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. I didn't even know that. Probably because I don't wanna watch it and generally hate everything the guy ever made. But you know ONE anime out of 30+ every season isn't really what you'd think of as a rule. |
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Orsonius said: It's too bad that can't happen all the time. No, instead the Japanese are too busy trying to push everyone to buy their ridiculously overpriced discs to turn a profit while we have to wait to get what we want.IntroverTurtle said: Orsonius said: It's kind of ironic that you say this during the season that this has happened for the first time. Space Dandy being dubbed and released before it is aired in Japan IIRC.And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. I didn't even know that. Probably because I don't wanna watch it and generally hate everything the guy ever made. But you know ONE anime out of 30+ every season isn't really what you'd think of as a rule. |
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gamer2710 said: Get Space Dandy great ratings and no doubt they'll keep on making them.It's too bad that can't happen all the time. No, instead the Japanese are too busy trying to push everyone to buy their ridiculously overpriced discs to turn a profit while we have to wait to get what we want. |
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gamer2710 said: Orsonius said: It's too bad that can't happen all the time. No, instead the Japanese are too busy trying to push everyone to buy their ridiculously overpriced discs to turn a profit while we have to wait to get what we want.IntroverTurtle said: Orsonius said: It's kind of ironic that you say this during the season that this has happened for the first time. Space Dandy being dubbed and released before it is aired in Japan IIRC.And new anime are never dubbed and take a while. I didn't even know that. Probably because I don't wanna watch it and generally hate everything the guy ever made. But you know ONE anime out of 30+ every season isn't really what you'd think of as a rule. That's the golden rule of running a business, mate. |
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IntroverTurtle said: I would but it's not the type of show that interests me. Plus I don't have TV any more. Best I can do is go on FUNimation's website and stream their simulcasts while I sleep or something.gamer2710 said: Get Space Dandy great ratings and no doubt they'll keep on making them.It's too bad that can't happen all the time. No, instead the Japanese are too busy trying to push everyone to buy their ridiculously overpriced discs to turn a profit while we have to wait to get what we want. |
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gamer2710 said: Well you want them to make more shows dubbed first, then it doesn't matter if you like it or not. Eventually they would make one that appeals more to you. Right now it's just about supporting the format.IntroverTurtle said: I would but it's not the type of show that interests me. Plus I don't have TV any more. Best I can do is go on FUNimation's website and stream their simulcasts while I sleep or something.gamer2710 said: Get Space Dandy great ratings and no doubt they'll keep on making them.It's too bad that can't happen all the time. No, instead the Japanese are too busy trying to push everyone to buy their ridiculously overpriced discs to turn a profit while we have to wait to get what we want. Do that on multiple computers and ask everyone you know to leave their tvs and computers on at that time. |
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| I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. |
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yhunata said: I 'm not completely sure but I think Afro Samurai was the first to show in America before Japan.I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. |
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yhunata said: Well they were probably trying to make something closer to Cowboy Bebop, at least in setting wise. Must see space as a setting that Americans like. The guy made both Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop and Bebop was definitely more popular.I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. DrGeroCreation said: Well I believe Afro Samurai was an OVA or something like that. I don't think it aired normally like Space Dandy did, different circumstances.yhunata said: I 'm not completely sure but I think Afro Samurai was the first to show in America before Japan.I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. |
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IntroverTurtle said: yhunata said: Well they were probably trying to make something closer to Cowboy Bebop, at least in setting wise. Must see space as a setting that Americans like. The guy made both Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop and Bebop was definitely more popular.I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. Yeah, but is Space Dandy living up to it's hype? I haven't watched the second episode yet, but the first episode was very lackluster. DrGeroCreation said: yhunata said: I 'm not completely sure but I think Afro Samurai was the first to show in America before Japan.I think Space Dandy is the wrong anime for this "American airing first" project. Should've gone with something more historical than an ecchi-ish space fantasy. I wasn't saying that SD is the first show like this, just that it's an "to air in America before Japan" project. |
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