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Oct 15, 2014 4:52 PM
#41
Oct 15, 2014 7:33 PM
#42
At first I thought that Kougami was in the opening but now I'm not sure. I think it was actually Kirito Kamui. They have similar hair. I really hope that Kougami shows up. I already missed him and it's only been one episode. But I can't find him on any list for the new season so I'm not sure. |
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Oct 18, 2014 8:54 AM
#43
Some people have a theory that Tougane = Kougami. I don't really believe that, but it might be possible, especially since Kougami's not listed in the characters. They also have very similar characteristics, so at the very least they must be connected in some way. But maybe I'm just trying to reassure myself that he'll be back. It's not Psycho Pass without Kougami! >:( |
Oct 18, 2014 10:36 AM
#44
the scene where akane had a cigarette lit was cute at least, though just saying that scene would have been a really emotional bit if he had died, im sure he will come back but hypothetically if he doesnt maybe it would had been better to kill him off then to write him off |
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Oct 18, 2014 10:34 PM
#45
I'm betting he escaped the orwellian dystopia that Japan has become and is in Korea or China or something (even after listening to Akane and Kougami's last phone call). I hope he returns to help start a revolution. PS: From the few hints that were dropped it seems some kind of World War happened and Japan sealed itself off like Sakoku under the Tokugawa Shoguns, but the Sybil system is undoubtedly making the outside world appear far worse than it truly is for propaganda purposes. That's a standard tactic for all totalitarian regimes. |
Oct 19, 2014 2:33 AM
#47
BatoKusanagi said: That's what I was honestly thinking, lol.He's training with ninjas in the mountains. Anyways, I feel like he'll have a bigger role in the Movie, even if he does show up to save Akane somewhere at the end of S2. We have only 11 episodes this time and if he shows up too early he'll really overshadow the new figures. And the Conversation with Akane didn't really prove he's coming back. If anything, we know that he's alive for now. |
Oct 20, 2014 7:33 PM
#48
Rayzer said: AirStyles said: Who cares if he don't show up. Akane is already a much better inspector than he ever was. (Outside of physical attributes) Wow a stupid question. You already knew that they care about Kougami's disappearance and you are still asking? And how you even said that Akane surpass Kougami on being an inspector? Have you know what he did in the past? As I remember PP 1 was just about Kougami's chase/obsession for Makishima not entirely his duty being an inspector. It wasn't a question, it was my opinion on how little I care about Kougami at this stage of the story. How did Akane surpass Kougami? 1. Akane is a lot more talented as an individual. (Sibyl approved) 2. Akane is every bit as capable of Kougami at deducting and reading of people after just one session of "reading class" 3. Akane, despite witnessing her best friend being killed in front of her very own eyes, can continue to keep her hue clear. (Kougami snapped) 4. Able to go through extremely traumatic experience twice without losing her head. Particularly on point 3 and 4, it shows just how strong Akane is mentally. Kougami, while analytic, he have little control over himself and often let his instinct takes over and go on a rampage if he have to. He often lose control to his own desire. While Akane can maintain a positive outlook on things, see things more carefully, and made decision with the entire society in mind. Even Kougami himself admit that Akane is right and he is wrong prior to his departure, and stated that he's acting selfishly. "You shouldn't underestimate mankind, we're always aiming for a better society. One day, someone will come to this room to turn off the power, We will find a new path, you can count on it." She kept her mind open to new ways society can operate. While she may agree that Sibyl system is necessary for the society despite not 100% supportive of it, she can work under it without letting it get to her head, her adaptability is excellent. Put Kougami in her shoes, and he'd go crazy within a week. He may even go on a bombing spree just to fight the system. TL:DR Akane is by far and away more suitable to be an inspector in Sibyl society compared to Kougami. Whatever Kougami can do, Akane can. (Outside of brawling) Whatever's too stressful for Kougami to handle, Akane can tough it out. Carefree859 said: Kougami made this show as far as i'm concerned he was the main reason why Akane is who she is. As far as I'm concern, Akane is what made both psycho-pass. Kougami is a capable veteran in the field, who fall short at certain area, which Akane surpassed, which is mental strength. Yes, without a doubt, he's one of the reason Akane is strong today, as he did took her under his wings. While I'll give him credit for being a veteran who played an important role in Akane's growth... I will not say that's he's a better inspector than Akane for the reasons I posted above. At this very moment, Akane is the superior inspector. Doing things both by the book, and able to adapt and do things outside of the book without damaging her value as an inspector. Kougami is just a skilled former inspector, currently a runaway enforcer who couldn't adapt to a society ran by Sibyl System. EDIT: Seeing that both of you criticize my earlier post for being stupid while claiming Kougami is the better inspector... How about elaborating on it? Show me some reasons behind why you think so. Go ahead and argue against my position on Akane > Kougami as an inspector, I challenge both of you |
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Oct 21, 2014 6:03 AM
#49
Nah, I don't want to see the lame sense of Akane's justice in the story.. boring.. I wanna see a Kougami rampage and will back as an antagonist in the story... ^Also, she's a better inspector because of Kougami. >>Yuki(ep.11) wouldn't have died if she already killed Makishima >>Can't kill Makishima, scared of her psycho pass going up, i guess >>Underdog of Sibyl System crap even if she didn't like the system I still believe that Kougami is better of a detective-type than Akane. |
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Oct 21, 2014 9:49 AM
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[quote=AirStyles][quote=Rayzer] AirStyles said: Who cares if he don't show up. Akane is already a much better inspector than he ever was. (Outside of physical attributes) How did Akane surpass Kougami? 1. Akane is a lot more talented as an individual. (Sibyl approved) 3. Akane, despite witnessing her best friend being killed in front of her very own eyes, can continue to keep her hue clear. (Kougami snapped) 4. Able to go through extremely traumatic experience twice without losing her head. 2. Akane is every bit as capable of Kougami at deducting and reading of people after just one session of "reading class" Debatable. Kogami had excellent analytical skill and capability to take action. Akane could only look on as her best friend was murdered, quite pathetic if you ask me. What you describe as her mental strength is counter-productive to her status as an inspector. Plus, Kogami had an entire season to himself to prove to his abilities. Akane had two episodes where she did draw some conclusions - conclusions your everyday bloke could have drawn provided he had been exposed to everything Akane had been exposed to beforehand. Kogami could think outside the box and act on the assumption that Sibyl's justice is not absolute. Akane could not and that cost many lives in the first season. While Akane can maintain a positive outlook on things, see things more carefully, and made decision with the entire society in mind. Even Kougami himself admit that Akane is right and he is wrong prior to his departure, and stated that he's acting selfishly. .... .... ... Whatever Kougami can do, Akane can. (Outside of brawling) Whatever's too stressful for Kougami to handle, Akane can tough it out. And like you just said, she can't brawl. In her line of work, that's KO. As for your last point, not really. Kogami's best friend was mutilated beyond recognition and lime lighted like artifacts in a museum. Although I suppose not getting the least bit disturbed at your friend's death, especially when one had a choice in the matter, is rather inhumane. I understand your rambles about Kogami's radical outlook and emotional responses, but that doesn't make him any lesser a detective. She is the better character, I agree, but not phenomenally so that her character makes Kogami's sheer badassery redundant by virtue of quality. I want Kogami back. Akane maybe a good character, but she's too dull to fill Kogami's shoes. |
DeigerOct 21, 2014 9:59 AM
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Oct 21, 2014 12:23 PM
#51
my theory is that kogame split into two - tougane and kirito. don't ask me how. |
Oct 21, 2014 12:27 PM
#52
He's off fluffin in the mountains somewhere training to be a martial arts master. |
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Oct 21, 2014 5:33 PM
#53
People are overreacting for no reason. He'll appear anyways. As if they'd forget about him I mean should they just say "Yeah, Kougami died during the time between S1 & S2..."? There's no meaningful reason for that. The question should be more like "how?". uberwok said: my theory is that kogame split into two - tougane and kirito. don't ask me how. This actually sound not that bad to me o.o Like Kirito is his aggressive side while Tougane is the complete opposite. |
Oct 21, 2014 5:51 PM
#54
flickflickflick said: Nah, I don't want to see the lame sense of Akane's justice in the story.. boring.. I wanna see a Kougami rampage and will back as an antagonist in the story... ^Also, she's a better inspector because of Kougami. >>Yuki(ep.11) wouldn't have died if she already killed Makishima >>Can't kill Makishima, scared of her psycho pass going up, i guess >>Underdog of Sibyl System crap even if she didn't like the system I still believe that Kougami is better of a detective-type than Akane. 1. You're judging a rookie Akane, not the current Akane. 2. She can kill Makishima, and will do so if Sibyl won't allow Kougami to live. + Her psycho-pass is impossible to cloud, in some sense, she's similar to Makishima, except it's not because Sibyl can't judge her, but Sibyl consider her to be the "IDEAL" citizen under Sibyl rule. 3. She work under the Sibyl System because the society have become far too reliant on it, so that's the best course of action. If they suddenly remove Sibyl System, Japan will go straight back to bronze age. Judging from your reply, this is basically what you're saying in a nut shell. + For a Enforcer as unstable and hard to keep on a leash as Kougami, judging from most Inspector's mindset so far, Akane may be the only one daring enough to bring Kougami around outside of doing field work. How many inspector would actually take "reading" class after knowing that it is the very reason why Kougami end up as a latent criminal? Probably none. Freaking Ginoza try to distance himself from Kougami, and they were friends. In fact, prior to Akane showing up, Kougami have already given up on everything. He was working like a hunting-dog on chain. Upon release, just shoot. @Dieger11111 1. Yes, because they're living under Sibyl Society as Sibyl's inspector, her adaptability and trait for the role means that she's most suitable for working under the system, she have little to no chance of going rogue. 3&4. It's relevant because those who seen those things lose their job. (Take Kougami for example) 2. Yes, please continue to judge Akane by her rookie days. This is by far, the dumbest argument I've seen thus far. She had 4~5 episode so far since she started taking on the role as the go-to inspector. She kept more people safe, and less likely to shoot those that can still be saved. Again, why the fuck are you judging Akane by her rookie form? Kougami was consumed by his hate for Makishima, snapped, got himself locked up, and living like a hunting dog, acting like a hunting dog, and even completely lost sight of himself prior to Akane showing up. That is pathetic. (Please watch episode 2 again) Both Kougami and Akane are aware that Sibyl System is not perfect. Kougami's character the type that'll shoot, and got himself locked up and never to contribute again. If he is to found out about Sibyl's true form, we can all guess what is to become of the System within a week. Imagine what kind of damage it'll do to the society. Too many lives and money are at risk. Akane is adaptable by nature, that is why she can still continue to work even after knowing Sibyl's true form, continue to save more lives, and work around the system's flaws, finding equilibrium. (While waiting and hoping that someone will implement a new societal system in the future) Even cover up for Sibyl's weaknesses as she identifies them, doing extra work to compensate for it's imperfection. You don't just strip away a system because it's not perfect. Otherwise, we'd have no police today. You can improvise the system. (Sibyl System is one that updates it self via collection of brains) Sibyl System is not perfect, but it is a system that is very efficient and effective compare to others, and Akane feel incline to work under it. (Again, the country have also gotten too reliant on Sibyl) Average inspector can deduct what Akane did in later episode of S1? YES! That is why everyone have already figured out Kougami's plan before Akane showed up to the crime scene "LATE". ... Oh wait... When it comes right down to it, this is what you guys argued in a nutshell. 1. Akane have grown? I only remember her rookie days where she's still learning her job and making mistakes. 2. Akane is not edgy and rebellious enough, I want to see people fight the power and be badass. I want a bad cop, a vigilante as a main character. You don't want the hero that the people need, you want the hero that the people deserve. You want the dark knight. |
AirStylesOct 21, 2014 6:21 PM
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Oct 21, 2014 6:32 PM
#55
@Dieger11111 1. Yes, because they're living under Sibyl Society as Sibyl's Detective, her adaptability and trait of the role means that she's most suitable for working under the system, she have little to no chance of going rogue. 2. Yes, please continue to judge Akane by her rookie days. Yes, the classic comeback when you have no comeback. Act smug and complacent and hope everyone thinks you're smart. This is by far, the dumbest argument I've seen thus far. Like I said, she could only become a passable detective after she's been enlightened of the sibyl's true nature by sibyl itself. Take the latest episode for example, the only reason she made the connections she did was because she knows that the system can be hoodwinked. If everyone else, even Mika, knew what Akane knew about sibyl, then whatever conclusions she made would simply be the natural course of action. For kogami on the other hand, he was simply a cut above the rest, and not solely so because of a difference in perspective as he's privy to information nobody else in the country has. She kept more people safe, and less likely to shoot those that can still be saved. And why the fuck are you talking about who saved more lives. Mycroft Holmes may not have saved as many as Sherlock Holmes, but its canonical that he's better. Again, why the fuck are you judging Akane by her rookie form? If you plan on going about a tangent about their personality, adaptability or morality, then don't bother. That's hardly the point here. I intend on discussing their relative merits as detectives, NOT as inspectors in sibyl's utopia/dystopia. Also, to speak in purely statistical terms, Kogami scored all time highest in the exam that determined Akane's aptitude as an inspector. Yes, all time highest. Ever. In this utopian/dystopian Japan. When it comes right down to it, this is what you guys argued in a nutshell. 1. Akane have grown? I only remember her rookie days where she's still learning her job and making mistakes. 2. Akane is not edgy and rebellious enough, I want to see people fight the power and be badass. I want a bad cop, a vigilante as a main character. You don't want the hero that the people need, you want the hero that the people deserve. You want the dark knight. 1. I never once implied that Akane had not grown. Only that her merits as a detective is the result of the kind of information she has in her hands. Kogami can equal or better her regardless, and as such is the better detective. 2. And is that a bad thing now? I think I made it clear that Akane is the better character of the two, but not by that big of a margin that her dilemmas or conflicts can supplement the excitement and life Kogami's emotionally driven rampages could give. Rip off dark knight, be cool. I approve and I agree. We want the dark knight, who doesn't? And I certainly don't want a white knight. We've had enough of those. |
DeigerOct 21, 2014 6:45 PM
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Oct 21, 2014 6:48 PM
#56
Deiger1111 said: @Dieger11111 1. Yes, because they're living under Sibyl Society as Sibyl's Detective, her adaptability and trait of the role means that she's most suitable for working under the system, she have little to no chance of going rogue. 2. Yes, please continue to judge Akane by her rookie days. Yes, the classic comeback when you have no comeback. Act smug and complacent and hope everyone thinks you're smart. This is by far, the dumbest argument I've seen thus far. Like I said, she could only become a passable detective after she's been enlightened of the sibyl's true nature by sibyl itself. Take the latest episode for example, the only reason she made the connections she did was because she knows that the system can be hoodwinked. If everyone else, even Mika, knew what Akane knew about sibyl, then whatever conclusions she made would simply be the natural course of action. For kogami on the other hand, he was simply a cut above the rest, and not solely so because of a difference in perspective as he's privy to information nobody else in the country has. She kept more people safe, and less likely to shoot those that can still be saved. And why the fuck are you talking about who saved more lives. Mycroft Holmes may not have saved as many as Sherlock Holmes, but its canonical that he's better. Again, why the fuck are you judging Akane by her rookie form? If you plan on going about a tangent about their personality, adaptability or morality, then don't bother. That's hardly the point here. I intend on discussing their relative merits as detectives, NOT as inspectors. Also, to speak in purely statistical terms, Kogami scored all time highest in the exam that determined Akane's aptitude as an inspector. Yes, all time highest. Ever. In this utopian/dystopian Japan. Please consider the following. Why is it that, Akane is the only one Sibyl is willing to meet? Not Ginoza, who they once considered an invaluable asset, not Kougami the "oh so amazing inspector", not Mika, not anyone, but Akane? Why? I believe you're smart enough to figure that out without me spelling it out to you. Kougami is a cut above, took more risk, but he also fell all the way because of it. Akane also took a lot of risk, exploiting herself to one danger after another, survived them. Now, she's have even attained knowledge beyond that of Kougami, yet she hasn't fallen, still working within the system. And yes, judging Akane by her rookie form in a S2 topic is dumb beyond doubt, I am still very disappointed by how you try to defend that point. Outside of psysical capability, in what way is Kougami better than Akane as a inspector? As a detective, Kougami is better, as an inspector, Akane comes out on top. The only one time Kougami worked against Akane, Akane solve his riddles, caught up to Kougami, and had him under her gun. Kougami's objective, not get caught, shoot Makishima dead, he left some clues in case he is to fail. Akane's objective, capture both Kougami and Makishima alive He was at her gun point, at her mercy, she could've shot him down, that is a fact. Instead, she made the decision to work with the rouge cop/runaway latent-criminal in order to increase her chances of capturing Makishima... For Kougami's sake. Ultimately, she failed, Makishima died, and Kougami turned rouge. That was her very first time leading an arrest. EDIT: There we go, you want a dark knight. But don't speak for me, because I largely prefer this white knight over that dark knight. Tbh, it's hard to even call Akane a white knight. She found balance in working under an imperfect system, equilibrium. She is not all for justice, but she is for fairness. *Nothing will make her happier than seeing a new, better system overthrow and replace Sibyl System* I didn't quote the dark knight to sound cool, I quote it because it's relevant for this discussion and it's a generally known quote. |
AirStylesOct 21, 2014 7:06 PM
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Oct 21, 2014 7:08 PM
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Oct 21, 2014 7:16 PM
#58
NihonFalcom said: Patience.... A concept unknown to these nimrods. |
Oct 21, 2014 7:21 PM
#59
Outside of psysical capability, in what way is Kougami better than Akane as a inspector? As a detective, Kougami is better, as an inspector, Akane comes out on top. You just don't read my arguments, do you?Please consider the following. I know why and that certainly is not because she had better deductive skills. In other words, your point is moot. Why is it that, Akane is the only one Sibyl is willing to meet? Not Ginoza, who they once considered an invaluable asset, not Kougami the "oh so amazing inspector", not Mika, not anyone, but Akane? Why? I believe you're smart enough to figure that out without me spelling it out to you. Kougami is a cut above, took more risk, but he also fell all the way because of it. Akane also took a lot of risk, exploiting herself to one danger after another, survived them. The risk you're talking of is part of the package. Why're you even pointing htat out?And yes, judging Akane by her rookie form in a S2 topic is dumb beyond doubt, I am still very disappointed by how you try to defend that point. No. This series has a linear progression, and i did not ignore her better feats, i cited exactly why they don't give her an advantage in this case, especially when Kogami himself had similar achievements despite his handicaps. I'm very disappointed in how your comment reeks of hypocrisy. And also disappointed in how you don't realize that I'm judging her on the advantages she's been given over S2 detectives by account of events in S1. I want a dark knight. You don't. Akane's not a white knight. Its just a clash of opinions. Lets agree to disagree. |
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Oct 21, 2014 7:35 PM
#60
Deiger1111 said: Outside of psysical capability, in what way is Kougami better than Akane as a inspector? As a detective, Kougami is better, as an inspector, Akane comes out on top. You just don't read my arguments, do you?Please consider the following. I know why and that certainly is not because she had better deductive skills. In other words, your point is moot. Why is it that, Akane is the only one Sibyl is willing to meet? Not Ginoza, who they once considered an invaluable asset, not Kougami the "oh so amazing inspector", not Mika, not anyone, but Akane? Why? I believe you're smart enough to figure that out without me spelling it out to you. Kougami is a cut above, took more risk, but he also fell all the way because of it. Akane also took a lot of risk, exploiting herself to one danger after another, survived them. The risk you're talking of is part of the package. Why're you even pointing htat out?And yes, judging Akane by her rookie form in a S2 topic is dumb beyond doubt, I am still very disappointed by how you try to defend that point. No. This series has a linear progression, and i did not ignore her better feats, i cited exactly why they don't give her an advantage in this case, especially when Kogami himself had similar achievements despite his handicaps. I'm very disappointed in how your comment reeks of hypocrisy. And also disappointed in how you don't realize that I'm judging her on the advantages she's been given over S2 detectives by account of events in S1. I want a dark knight. You don't. Akane's not a white knight. Its just a clash of opinions. Lets agree to disagree. 1. You called her pathetic over her inability to act during her rookie days. That's the biggest red flag I saw. 2. You have preference over a dark knight for your own interest. While I do like bad cops who take things into their own hand, he is one that will bring a society down if he have to. That's a red flag. 3. Dark Knights are exciting to watch, yes. During the small segment in episode in episode 20, she dream of everyone. Listened to them, agreeing, encouraging, disagree yet tolerant A character like Akane, a hero, that balance herself between black and white efficiently, is far deeper and more interesting than a skill blood hound chasing down his nemesis. I enjoyed S1 because of the mystery behind Sibyl System. Observing it's role in society, it's weakness, why it failed, how it works, how it's designed etc etc. I enjoyed S2 because of Akane's character and the way she work around Sibyl, working in a balance she found, the way she utilize new recruits, how she cope with stress etc etc. Maybe the reason why I don't miss Kougami as much, is because he was never the main attraction for me, he's merely a untamed, beautiful hunting-dog with a good nose. Good addition, but not the main attraction that kept me glue to a show. He's just like Little John in Robin Hood for me. Not exactly, as Kougami's a lot more relevant, but you get the idea. I miss Masaoka a heck of a lot more than Kougami. If I am to rate characters by how interesting they are from S1. 1. Masaoka 2. Akane 3. Ginoza 4. Kougami |
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Oct 21, 2014 9:09 PM
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AirStyles said: If you actually took the time to read my argument, you'll see that as it stands, i made it a point to specify that Akane is the better character in each of my previous posts. Deiger1111 said: Outside of psysical capability, in what way is Kougami better than Akane as a inspector? As a detective, Kougami is better, as an inspector, Akane comes out on top. Please consider the following. Why is it that, Akane is the only one Sibyl is willing to meet? Not Ginoza, who they once considered an invaluable asset, not Kougami the "oh so amazing inspector", not Mika, not anyone, but Akane? Why? I believe you're smart enough to figure that out without me spelling it out to you. Kougami is a cut above, took more risk, but he also fell all the way because of it. Akane also took a lot of risk, exploiting herself to one danger after another, survived them. And yes, judging Akane by her rookie form in a S2 topic is dumb beyond doubt, I am still very disappointed by how you try to defend that point. No. This series has a linear progression, and i did not ignore her better feats, i cited exactly why they don't give her an advantage in this case, especially when Kogami himself had similar achievements despite his handicaps. I'm very disappointed in how your comment reeks of hypocrisy. And also disappointed in how you don't realize that I'm judging her on the advantages she's been given over S2 detectives by account of events in S1. I want a dark knight. You don't. Akane's not a white knight. Its just a clash of opinions. Lets agree to disagree. 1. You called her pathetic over her inability to act during her rookie days. That's the biggest red flag I saw. 2. You have preference over a dark knight for your own interest. While I do like bad cops who take things into their own hand, he is one that will bring a society down if he have to. That's a red flag. 3. Dark Knights are exciting to watch, yes. During the small segment in episode in episode 20, she dream of everyone. Listened to them, agreeing, encouraging, disagree yet tolerant A character like Akane, a hero, that balance herself between black and white efficiently, is far deeper and more interesting than a skill blood hound chasing down his nemesis. I enjoyed S1 because of the mystery behind Sibyl System. Observing it's role in society, it's weakness, why it failed, how it works, how it's designed etc etc. I enjoyed S2 because of Akane's character and the way she work around Sibyl, working in a balance she found, the way she utilize new recruits, how she cope with stress etc etc. Maybe the reason why I don't miss Kougami as much, is because he was never the main attraction for me, he's merely a untamed, beautiful hunting-dog with a good nose. Good addition, but not the main attraction that kept me glue to a show. He's just like Little John in Robin Hood for me. Not exactly, as Kougami's a lot more relevant, but you get the idea. I miss Masaoka a heck of a lot more than Kougami. If I am to rate characters by how interesting they are from S1. 1. Masaoka 2. Akane 3. Ginoza 4. Kougami There is no doubt that Kogami has the depth of a puddle. My point is that while Akane's dilemmas are interesting, they are not enough to supplement the bad cop vigilante trope that made the series more exciting. She is a good character, but not good enough to be the driving force of the show by herself. If I wanted lessons in philosophy or character drama in a cyberpunk, I'd be watching GiTs, not psycho pass. And 2nd season is only episodes up, its too early to jump into conclusions as we don't even know if the season is about Akane dealing with the sibyl's side. That could merely be an introductory note, a theme that will soon be discarded for sake of larger events, like the themes of sibyl's absolute justice leading to cultivation of criminals in and of itself, which was largely left untapped by the end of the season. Masaoka FTW! Atleast there's one thing we agree in. |
DeigerOct 21, 2014 9:14 PM
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Oct 23, 2014 1:31 PM
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Oct 30, 2014 12:40 PM
#63
I think he will appear soon.. and hopefully he will live through the series if he came back. He is no longer the MC in season 2, so anything could happen and he just happen to be the best fodder to develop the MC (Akane) into something extraordinary. I hope the writer don't try to kill him he's my favorite character :( but at the same time just thinking about how mind blowing it could be if the previous MC died is really intriguing :| [Reference: The Opening somehow suggested this thought after observing it numerous time] It's all up to the new writer now if he intend to top the previous season then something crazy needs to be done I guess or else Makishima & Kougami benchmark is just far too high to be topped. |
Oct 31, 2014 2:09 AM
#64
They could probably get away without Kougami... Masaoka was a good character in first season just as Makishima was. But Akane is probably the single worst character of the show and they use her as a main character somewhow, which is ridiculous in my opinion. To avoid bringing back Kougami, they would most likely have to bring the spotlight on another character to make him/her act as the Kougami version of this season. Akane simply doesn't have what it takes to be a good and interesting main character. I also think that she's rather predictable too in her "save every single person" way. Some people call this "depth" but I do not. Where a character would simply shoot with lethal mode without any doubt, she will simply avoid shooting if lethal is activated. This is not depth, this is simply being naive, she's taking very dumb risks rather often that the show seems to fail to show. If a character has been detected as a criminal (even below 300), his life is over, paraylyzed charge or not. At this point, we'd expect them to use this window of time from Akane naivety to have a bigger impact, but it seems only Makishima was actually a plausible criminal. And honestly, she wouldn't have stood a chance against him. From my point of view, Akane should actually play the main antagonist along with Sibyl and they could use Kougami as main protagnist in a kind of rebellion. What I would truly dislike would be if the writers actually made her fight Sybil as the leader of this fight. That would be such poor writing, almost every character in this show would have a mind set much more suited for this task than her... What would happen seriously ? She would get to turn off Sybil then she would go "oh no , I want to give Sybil a chance to get better", giving time to Sybil to bring some back up or whatever else ? Even as a support she might be troublesome ... She would most likely try to shoot the character that tries to shut down Sybil even if she's on his side, giving once again time to Sybil to get some backup. |
ThaosenOct 31, 2014 2:23 AM
Oct 31, 2014 2:27 AM
#65
Isn't Kougami that Kamui guy? He just found a way to make himself look younger just as how he managed to bypass the Sibyl system. |
よろしく! |
Oct 31, 2014 2:41 AM
#66
shadow_black said: man if this were true id shit on this series so hard, tohugh thank christ this wont happenIsn't Kougami that Kamui guy? He just found a way to make himself look younger just as how he managed to bypass the Sibyl system. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 31, 2014 2:57 AM
#67
I just want to see him blast someone with that .44 of his XD |
Oct 31, 2014 3:34 AM
#68
Meh. He's story was nicely concluded. I certainly hope we don't see him again - would only hurt Akanes character development at this point. |
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Oct 31, 2014 3:44 AM
#69
Xayoz said: Meh. He's story was nicely concluded. I certainly hope we don't see him again - would only hurt Akanes character development at this point. His story not He's story. |
よろしく! |
Dec 12, 2014 4:40 AM
#70
Carefree859 said: AirStyles said: Who cares if he don't show up. Akane is already a much better inspector than he ever was. (Outside of physical attributes) you know i'm not just saying this because i love Kougami but this is the most insanely stupid post i have ever seen Kougami might i have you know is out of Akane's league sorry to sound rude but it's just when I see a stupid post like that it really irks me. Kougami made this show as far as i'm concerned he was the main reason why Akane is who she is. and to answer this question yes i think he will be back unless the producers are complete idiots. the producers are complete idiots there wont be kogami this season |
Dec 13, 2014 1:59 AM
#71
Xayoz said: Meh. He's story was nicely concluded. I certainly hope we don't see him again - would only hurt Akanes character development at this point. Are you moron? The story itself is Kogami. Without him these series are trash and not interesting. Second season is a failure. Seeing pathetic little Akane, her pathetic subordinate, two lesbian girls... Second season is a trash!!!! |
Dec 18, 2014 11:44 AM
#72
shadow_black said: Isn't Kougami that Kamui guy? He just found a way to make himself look younger just as how he managed to bypass the Sibyl system. Short answer: No. Long answer: Still No. |
Dec 18, 2014 12:41 PM
#73
Dec 19, 2014 1:26 AM
#74
Having a cigarette/smoke break in China. |
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Dec 20, 2014 7:52 AM
#75
black1blade said: If he was in japan he would be tracked down and killed. He's in south-east asia for the movie. The second season wasn't even planned by the main producers I.G or the main writer, Gen. No wonder it sucked. |
Dec 20, 2014 10:13 AM
#76
solomon585858 said: Xayoz said: Meh. He's story was nicely concluded. I certainly hope we don't see him again - would only hurt Akanes character development at this point. Are you moron? The story itself is Kogami. Without him these series are trash and not interesting. Second season is a failure. Seeing pathetic little Akane, her pathetic subordinate, two lesbian girls... Second season is a trash!!!! i lost it at pathetic subordinate, two lesbian girls part hahahahah i haven't laughed this much from a forum post in ages roflmao thanks bro! |
Dec 28, 2014 3:06 AM
#77
He will be in movie if not it's going to suck. Even they who made S2 realized their mistake of leaving him out at some point that's why they tried to forcible include him as Akane's delusions imho. |
Dec 29, 2014 8:53 AM
#78
He's gonna be an enemy/possibly main villain in the movie. He's with the terrorist group that attacks sybil. |
Jan 15, 2015 10:01 AM
#79
Ppl from the site. Hello i'm just a guy who is currently looking for answer. I can't stop laughing when i'm reading a comment when the guy/girl is taking about White Knight and Black Knight. Anyways. Have a good day and long live the anime. |
Apr 20, 2015 11:02 PM
#80
I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THIS THE WHOLE TIME!! WHY IS HE NEVER SHOW UP IN THIS SEASON UNTIL HE SHOW UP IN THE MOVIE??? THEY LET TOUGANE BECAME A BAD GUY LATER & THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT KAMUI UNTIL IT LEFT WONDERING WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED??! No wonder why am I the only one who've been posting this while I've been spending the rest of the day thinking about what happened until no one cares!! SIGH.... |
Feb 5, 2016 4:17 PM
#81
When I was watching one of the episode of this new season of psycho-pass Insp. Ayanagi said to the former inspector that she shot Kougami when he tried to escape. |
allysajohn27Feb 5, 2016 6:46 PM
Feb 8, 2016 4:24 PM
#82
i think he might be part of sibli if you pay attention to the way they talk on the 11th episode of the second series it sounds like him |
Feb 15, 2016 2:41 PM
#83
i assumed he died because season 1 akane made that deal that if she brought shogo back alive they would not kill kougami |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Aug 30, 2016 9:14 AM
#84
Nah, i like both Akane and Kougami, but Season 2 doesnt quite feel like Psycho Pass. Hope Gen Urobuchi comeback, for season 3. |
Jan 5, 2017 5:49 PM
#86
I have no clue whats going to happen. I honestly cant wait to find out. What i hope happens is, Akane starts to get clouded and Shinya shows up out of no where and explains everything that happened while he was gone. Then helps Akane get clear again, later for one of them to be killed. I only say one should be killed because, a good anime needs to have a crying point lol. Idk shinya is my favorite character and i just really want him to come back. Im super curious to find out what happened tho. |
Apr 8, 2017 6:14 PM
#87
His in the movie that is set 2 years after season 2 if I'm correct |
Aug 31, 2017 11:37 AM
#88
I have just finished season two. Definitely thought that Kougami was going to show up in the last episode... |
Nov 3, 2021 12:21 PM
#90
in hiding but he did appeared in the movie. |
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