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Sep 19, 2013 11:08 PM

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A little concerned: Prototype will release a version of Kud Wafter Converted Edition ported to the PSVita on December this year (announced in first day of Tokyo Game Show 2013 yesterday).
So, Kud Wafter had Android ver, BD-ver, PSP ver and will have PSVita ver.
Sep 19, 2013 11:11 PM

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i wrote it how i remembered it (i went through rin2 thoroughly the other day). but masato definitely says that during rin's route.

also dear god. we haven't gotten any news in a while. i NEED something soon. something like "24 episodes comfirmed!" or a new PV or episode 1 preview.
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Sep 19, 2013 11:17 PM

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Funya-Usagi said:
i wrote it how i remembered it (i went through rin2 thoroughly the other day). but masato definitely says that during rin's route.

also dear god. we haven't gotten any news in a while. i NEED something soon. something like "24 episodes comfirmed!" or a new PV or episode 1 preview.


I hope new PV too (>_<) For episode 1 pre-air, seem VAVA Sachou intended to re-open it before October!

And cover of KSLA-0092 "Boys be Smile" has been published: http://images.wikia.com/mydata/vi/images/5/5e/BUlaC58CYAAXp-8.jpg
Kyousuke just awesome, dat smile...
Sep 19, 2013 11:22 PM

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I've been planning to re-read the routes, but I just want to see how the anime does and try to keep meticulous comparisons from the discussion, and I've been kinda busy lately.

We'll probably get something around next Friday or Saturday, or maybe within the next few days. They should be putting up something 1 or 2 weeks in advance.

I'm just glad there's going to be some new OST. If nothing else, we'll have some nice new tracks to listen to, and those will definitely come in use for the Rin and Refrain routes to show contrast from the rest of the story and increase the seriousness.
Sep 20, 2013 11:46 AM

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For me, the scene's with Riki and Rin together, are gonna be the one's I treasure, Don't they seem like a perfect couple?
Sep 20, 2013 12:10 PM

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Kurugaya or Kud is better, but Jun Maeda loves his plot heroines.
She's mindbroken in Refrain, and the strengthening and relationships with each heroine were more developed with Riki/the VN player,looking gets the spotlight after the failed saving attempt and is looling for all the heroines. Her development got kinda blown over, and Rin being Kyousuke's sister added a lot of impact to me, more for sympathy for Kyousuke (and Riki) rather than Rin.
Idk, maybe they'll write a good true route heroine in the Angel Beats remake, or in another VN if Key continues to write after that.
Sep 20, 2013 12:31 PM

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Vladz0r said:
Kurugaya or Kud is better, but Jun Maeda loves his plot heroines.
She's mindbroken in Refrain, and the strengthening and relationships with each heroine were more developed with Riki/the VN player,looking gets the spotlight after the failed saving attempt and is looling for all the heroines. Her development got kinda blown over, and Rin being Kyousuke's sister added a lot of impact to me, more for sympathy for Kyousuke (and Riki) rather than Rin.
Idk, maybe they'll write a good true route heroine in the Angel Beats remake, or in another VN if Key continues to write after that.


Yea, ik Rin is mindbroken in Refrain but Riki is always beside her, ive always thought they made a perfect couple, tho I don't really mind if Kurugaya gets riki, but i will be sad lol. Im just hoping for romance in refrain, I love me some romance :).

The PV everytime it gives me chills, sad to see Rin like that :c
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ITS REALLY FUCKING SHORT BUT CM2 IS HERE GUYS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keIsmHqxgZc

let's dissect every little piece of it my friends!
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Sep 20, 2013 8:41 PM

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YES the girls are still there, so love love hunters is half confirmed. xO
I see the group picture near the piano.
Sep 20, 2013 8:48 PM

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Omg the bitches appear.
and Kurugaya being PRO is always good <3
Sep 20, 2013 8:50 PM

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Funya-Usagi said:
ITS REALLY FUCKING SHORT BUT CM2 IS HERE GUYS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keIsmHqxgZc

let's dissect every little piece of it my friends!

looks like they're having the party after the baseball game at the beginning
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Sep 20, 2013 8:52 PM

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first of all, pancake party pretty much confirmed for first episode.

second of all wtf are they all celebrating about? they lost the game

scene at 00:05 - 00:06, looked like a serious talk in the club room. what could that all be about?

where is riki in the scene at 00:09? is that the piano room?

and finally, the animation looks exactly the same as season 1. like.. exactly the same
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Sep 20, 2013 8:57 PM

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As long as the animation doesn't go to episode 7's level of animation , the story should be able to carry it.. I hope..
That piano scene might be the last episode of Kurugaya's route after the world resets.
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eh I think it looks better than season 1 ._. and the colouring also seems nicer to me~

but what's with that scene with Kud....and it looked like Haruka was mad at the guys too. maybe Kud was the one being bullied instead of Riki in Kurugayas route, both Kurugaya and Kyousuke aren't in that scene, so it could match up with them trying to hide the bullying from Kurugaya ._.
Sep 20, 2013 9:10 PM

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Welp, the LB Refrain ship has sunk before even departing.
Expectations are back to season 1-tier.
Sep 20, 2013 9:15 PM

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And the speculations begin...

well, maybe no just Kurugaya but all of the member are being bullied and they trying to hide that from Kurugaya for her not to feel guilty about it?

btw I love the fact that Kurugaya have the group photo on her piano <3
Sep 20, 2013 9:17 PM

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Why couldn't it be longer..? D:
Sep 20, 2013 9:20 PM

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Tasuku- said:
And the speculations begin...

well, maybe no just Kurugaya but all of the member are being bullied and they trying to hide that from Kurugaya for her not to feel guilty about it?

btw I love the fact that Kurugaya have the group photo on her piano <3


haha I love that too, it shows how much she cares about them all~ woah that makes the scene where she confronts the bullies even better (for me) :O

but, what were you guys all expecting? this is pretty much how I thought refrain would look like, the very worst of all those scenes in term of art and animation to me looks similar to episode 24, one of the best eps~ (for me)
Sep 20, 2013 9:23 PM

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I hav a feeling kud is being bullied :( I can't wait for Kurugayas route
Sep 20, 2013 9:24 PM

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smilewolfy said:
Tasuku- said:
And the speculations begin...

well, maybe no just Kurugaya but all of the member are being bullied and they trying to hide that from Kurugaya for her not to feel guilty about it?

btw I love the fact that Kurugaya have the group photo on her piano <3


haha I love that too, it shows how much she cares about them all~ woah that makes the scene where she confronts the bullies even better (for me) :O

but, what were you guys all expecting? this is pretty much how I thought refrain would look like, the very worst of all those scenes in term of art and animation to me looks similar to episode 24, one of the best eps~ (for me)

based on that comment about kud in the clubroom, it does make me a little bit concerned for kurugaya's arc, because i thought they werent changing anything. but other than that my expectations are the same: its going to be amazing. as for animation, i dont really give a shit, looks fine to me. its refrain, im gonna enjoy it
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Sep 20, 2013 9:27 PM

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I wasn't expecting it to improve much overall, but I was HOPING that would happen.
The scene screenplay at least seems better, and they figured out how to use different colors.
The facial expressions are much better drawn at least, but the animation is still cheap and simple.
I doubt most people will take it as seriously as the VN players, same as season 1.
"Hurr durr world is fake, everyone dies, everyone comes back, best Key asspull" will be what people will say at this rate if it's not taken more seriously.

Well, they could carry it with better directing and closeup facial expression + good music directing, maybe if the assistant director realizes "It might be a good idea to play a serious song during a serious scene, a sad song during a sad scene, etc." and tells that to the music director.
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Really nice CM. But then yeah, it does look like Kud is going to be the one that's bullied.
If Kud's bullied, isn't there a possibility that Kurugaya's route will somehow be a friendship route? Someone just tell me that I'm being paranoid :(

On the bright side, facial expressions look a LOT better than s1!
Sep 20, 2013 9:30 PM

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if they do change kurugaya's arc. i will SURELY be pissed, not because of the content but because it would really fuck up JC staffs credibility based on the sole fact that it would mean that they had lied.

lets hope that doesn't happen.
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Sep 20, 2013 9:31 PM

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The animation does looks similar to the episodes where there's Kud ( ep 8 and 19)
But I think they are going to make Kud the victim of the bullying this time instead of Riki since they picked on her before and she does look like the weakest one of the group. Seriously...
Sep 20, 2013 9:32 PM

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Really nice CM. But then yeah, it does look like Kud is going to be the one that's bullied.
If Kud's bullied, isn't there a possibility that Kurugaya's route will somehow be a friendship route? Someone just tell me that I'm being paranoid :(

On the bright side, facial expressions look a LOT better than s1!

it could be a possibility that it will be a unrequited love type of thing
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@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....
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@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....


i'm more anticipating all of the

" BLATANT ANGEL BEATS KNOCK OFF" fags after the secret is revealed.
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Funya-Usagi said:
smilewolfy said:
@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....


i'm more anticipating all of the

" BLATANT ANGEL BEATS KNOCK OFF" fags after the secret is revealed.

Which is rather sad since it's the other way around lol
Sep 20, 2013 9:36 PM

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obviously angel beats is a prototype of the masterpiece that is refrain (>=.=)>
Sep 20, 2013 9:37 PM

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smilewolfy said:
@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....

this is strange. they did show the CG's of kurugaya hugging riki, and her hand on the window in the other PV, so if they did remove the romance, how would those scenes play out? ugghhhhhh....
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dizzyworld2 said:
Funya-Usagi said:
smilewolfy said:
@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....


i'm more anticipating all of the

" BLATANT ANGEL BEATS KNOCK OFF" fags after the secret is revealed.

Which is rather sad since it's the other way around lol


not to mention all those jokes that the 3 mains of AB were knock offs on the Haruhi, Kyon and Yuki characters from Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu
Sep 20, 2013 9:38 PM

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^ yeah, and they also took out the hug from Komari's route so them leaving the hug in Kurugaya's route is a sign that there should be romance.
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smilewolfy said:
@sanata50lbsb after reading your post, it gave me a horrible feeling of what if they really do remove romance from Kurugaya's route, and replace it with her caring so much about the little busters....man now I'm worried D:

@Vladz0r, i see. hmmm I guess I can see people doing that if they look at this as a kiddy show, same as how Shingeki is viewed as one of the most amazing anime ever because of its direction, or Chuunibyou as well.....

this is strange. they did show the CG's of kurugaya hugging riki, and her hand on the window in the other PV, so if they did remove the romance, how would those scenes play out? ugghhhhhh....


err since Riki's the main character, she could just be hugging him as a close friendship hug, because she's forgetting everyone else (can't remember what happened exactly) , she's emotional and he's the only one there.

and her hand on the window, she's thinking about the whole team....

either way i don't want this to happen D:

EDIT: dammit Kud, see all this angst you gave everyone =3=
Sep 20, 2013 9:42 PM

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Nah bro, it's not TOTALLY plagiarized from Angel Beats.
The farewells are clearly taken from Angel Beats, yes, but the Little "BUSTERS", the final scene and the magical feel are clearly a knockoff of AnoHana and their unique group of childhood friends, the Super Peace Busters.

I dunno, if there is a lot more Key animation than what we've seen once the story progresses, like if the animation steps up again when the Refrain arc starts or something, it could be fine. I'm not predicting a top anime or anything though.

I also LOVE how we have the story's integrity AND the animation to have anxiety about from JC Staff. Gotta love changing successful source material.
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i was kinda hoping they would have at least added some other lighting effects or better camera angles. (sorry guys but the color palette is exactly the same, i think you guys might be getting tricked because it's the first time seeing kengo in his jumper in the cafeteria)

i mean come on after seeing that first pv?

http://i.imgur.com/Z83katw.png
(look at that shit)

i thought they were saving all their budget for season 2 :( but the animation in this pv looks worse than golden time. (it's like sakurasou all over again)

either way i'm gonna go through kurugaya's route again and try to link up anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbD57ztrKH4

if anyone else wants to join me
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if they are bullying Kud, it could be a good thing in a way~ they decided to bully Riki because he is the weakest in the VN (if I remember correctly) but he should be relatively strong after going through so much in season 1~

so by JC making them bully a weaker member, it might be good overall~ and then they can add Romance~

inb4 they did it because of Wafu Revolution
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smilewolfy said:
if they are bullying Kud, it could be a good thing in a way~ they decided to bully Riki because he is the weakest in the VN (if I remember correctly) but he should be relatively strong after going through so much in season 1~

so by JC making them bully a weaker member, it might be good overall~ and then they can add Romance~

inb4 they did it because of Wafu Revolution

I will just stick with what you're suggesting since I need to keep my hopes up//

October, come faster!
Sep 20, 2013 10:19 PM

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It's bad, but I don't think it's (much?) worse than Golden Time
That PV for Golden Time is completely full of stills and slideshows with characters not even moving. They both look bad though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G8BTGGXx4k

It looks pretty damn unexciting, and full of closeups and slideshows for most of the PV, with a few bits of animation towards the end, and even that animation is mostly head movement.

There's more budget in the Railgun S fillers than in either the LB or Golden Time PVs so far, when that garbage does not deserve it.
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smilewolfy said:
if they are bullying Kud, it could be a good thing in a way~ they decided to bully Riki because he is the weakest in the VN (if I remember correctly) but he should be relatively strong after going through so much in season 1~

so by JC making them bully a weaker member, it might be good overall~ and then they can add Romance~

inb4 they did it because of Wafu Revolution

I will just stick with what you're suggesting since I need to keep my hopes up//

October, come faster!


Damn now I nervous too DDDDDDDDD:

I need to keep my hopes up too so I gonna think this:

> Most likely the images of the CM are from the first or second episode. So Kurugaya's arc maybe start in the first ep.
>They announced that there will be a song of Lia called "Fireworks" in episode 6 of Refrain. I think they used this for Kurugaya's end soooooooooooooo maybe Kurugaya could receive 5-6 episodes?
>5-6 episodes for Kurugaya? Why not romance? WHY NOT!? W-H-Y N-O-T-!-?


And maybe they save the budget for important episodes... oh wait, are not almost all episodes of Refrain importants? D:

Damn, just 16 seconds and we are all freak out XD
Lets see whats happend...
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inb4 all of that was from episode 1.

i wouldnt be suprised considering all of the character CMs from first season were all from the 1st episode of LB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=980uN2Z7Lag
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Well, if there's anything good to have come out of the LB anime, it was that it got me to play the visual novel.
I honestly don't even feel like watching Refrain at this point. At least now that my hype level went down (read: killed) I can focus on my college work. I don't think I will last wasting time to watch this each week, since it's annoying to download anime on campus, but maybe I'll stick around just to critique the adaptation or something, or my nostalgia and hype from my friends who are watching it might pull me back in.

I'm more hyped for several other anime than I am for Refrain now. It's just not going to be enjoyable when mainly the VN players are the ones taking it seriously like last season.

And lold, if there's no more common route and they're JUST doing Kurugaya->Rin->Refrain, that's not going to go well at all. 26 episodes of drama with the few comedy bits from LoveLove Hunters and maybe the parts they'll include from Rin and Refrain. Kurugaya's my favorite, but I'd rather she get 4 eps with some common route before it, than 6 eps.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I need to get out of here while I still can.
I'm starting to feel like an idiot for hyping up the anime for people in the first place.
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now now, lets at least watch the first episode and then judge it.

(if i see any speed lines, off model shots, ugly color palettes like in season 1 i will most likely drop until either refrain somehow gets hype or BD comes out)
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201341030500521

Hey check out guys, I've just seen this video in Anime paw, is another Preview for Little Busters! Refrain.
Sep 20, 2013 11:04 PM

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^ I'm surprised no one posted that here. I was going to post that if no one posted.


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^ I'm surprised no one posted that here. I was going to post that if no one posted.


I found it a while ago as well when I was browsing FB. I posted it to my friend earlier, but forgot to do so here ._.. I was waiting for a youtube ver. before posting here.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201341030500521

Hey check out guys, I've just seen this video in Anime paw, is another Preview for Little Busters! Refrain.

lol...
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Wait, wasn't the last 2 pages full of speculation after watching the 16 second video LOL
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welcome to the speculation club guys
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I was lurking more in the LB and Rewrite Clubs, Anime, Games and Casual Discussion than specific series boards particularly here.


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It's amazing how we all get hyped over a 15 second preview LOL
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