High School DxD (light novel)
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Apr 17, 2018 10:44 AM
#311
looks like they just switched the studios XD ghoul got better and dxd goes downhill ..... |
Apr 17, 2018 11:15 AM
#312
new art style is fu*** garbage. Miss my old Rias and Akeno 😭😭 |
Apr 17, 2018 2:15 PM
#313
MaxxV said: new art style is fu*** garbage. Miss my old Rias and Akeno 😭😭 Agreee... Rias Asia Koneko its look Like Weird T_T also at action scene Better Prev Studio >.> |
GhieeApr 18, 2018 11:04 AM
Apr 17, 2018 2:26 PM
#314
Ghiee said: MaxxV said: new art style is fu*** garbage. Miss my old Rias and Akeno 😭😭 Agreee... Rias Asia Koneko its look Like Weird T_T also at action scene Better is Not good from Prev Studio >.> Better is not good? What? You're making zero sense |
Apr 17, 2018 4:26 PM
#315
Chickenpotatoes said: Seen the previous 3 seasons, but not watching this new one I'm afraid. The art-style is too much like anime meant for the kid's range. It looks more like the LNs, TNK took liberties when producing the last seasons with both the story and the art style. |
Apr 17, 2018 7:12 PM
#316
I am happy with anything DxD If volumes 9 and 10 are animated properly this season 4 will be great Lets hope for a season 5 DxD forever |
Apr 17, 2018 7:39 PM
#317
One advantage of anime over live-action is that even if years go by between seasons, the actors can return looking just like when you last saw them. Yet here we have a complete cast change for no reason. If the characters weren't calling each-other by name constantly, I wouldn't even be able to identify them. I will probably keep watching, but this is going to hamper my enjoyment considerably. |
Apr 17, 2018 8:47 PM
#318
New art is so much better. More aligned with ToLove Ru style. I used to complain about the design now I am happy : D |
Apr 17, 2018 9:55 PM
#319
Hero will still be good Let see how the blur ray go to get season 5 Can t wait to watch Hero in HD quality |
GoldenCrimson20Apr 17, 2018 10:00 PM
Apr 17, 2018 10:06 PM
#320
I love old art style.is there any chance of change art style to old |
Apr 18, 2018 12:53 AM
#321
ravihans said: I love old art style.is there any chance of change art style to old ZEro to nil. That style stays with TNK |
Apr 18, 2018 1:00 AM
#322
Darklight0303 said: ravihans said: I love old art style.is there any chance of change art style to old ZEro to nil. That style stays with TNK Lets just enjoy these few months of Hero and hope that Passionate is inspired to get more DXD seasons Whatever the art DxD is still awesome DxD forever |
Apr 18, 2018 9:01 AM
#323
Ghiee said: MaxxV said: new art style is fu*** garbage. Miss my old Rias and Akeno 😭😭 Agreee... Rias Asia Koneko its look Like Weird T_T also at action scene Better is Not good from Prev Studio >.> sadly yeah... T_T |
Apr 18, 2018 9:32 AM
#324
kanyalmohit said: Yes the new art seems to be taken from LNs, but I still liked old art from season 1 to 3. The fight scene looked great, but the ecchi scene looked worse to me (mainly Rias & Akeno's art). I see people saying all they care about is anime to remain faithful to LN story and don't care about art, well then why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs or re-read them in case u have already finished because no matter what, anime can't do 100% justice to LN story (even season 1 & 2 left some bits). That last bit was such a horrible point...and weak for that matter..."Why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs"? Well maybe because some of us dont WANT to read it? Some of us may want to be working on something Whilst watching an anime, Cant do that with a LN...Yeah Anime Cant and WONT be 100% accurate lol Take season 3 for example...apparently that was a mess according to the fans of the franchise... I for one however welcome the new Art style, Why you may ask? because i dont care what it looks like so long as its animated lol I want to be able to sit down with Everyone not just sit there quietly reading something and falling asleep halfway through it. I'll be honest here, and this OPINION will be a very unpopular one, no doubt, But I'ma be real pissed off if all this backlash for the art style makes the studio give up one season in and we're stuck getting nothing more then the 4 season we got lol Why cant we just watch it and enjoy it? |
Apr 18, 2018 9:37 AM
#325
DrakeHur said: kanyalmohit said: Yes the new art seems to be taken from LNs, but I still liked old art from season 1 to 3. The fight scene looked great, but the ecchi scene looked worse to me (mainly Rias & Akeno's art). I see people saying all they care about is anime to remain faithful to LN story and don't care about art, well then why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs or re-read them in case u have already finished because no matter what, anime can't do 100% justice to LN story (even season 1 & 2 left some bits). That last bit was such a horrible point...and weak for that matter..."Why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs"? Well maybe because some of us dont WANT to read it? Some of us may want to be working on something Whilst watching an anime, Cant do that with a LN...Yeah Anime Cant and WONT be 100% accurate lol Take season 3 for example...apparently that was a mess according to the fans of the franchise... I for one however welcome the new Art style, Why you may ask? because i dont care what it looks like so long as its animated lol I want to be able to sit down with Everyone not just sit there quietly reading something and falling asleep halfway through it. I'll be honest here, and this OPINION will be a very unpopular one, no doubt, But I'ma be real pissed off if all this backlash for the art style makes the studio give up one season in and we're stuck getting nothing more then the 4 season we got lol Why cant we just watch it and enjoy it? Don't worry. THe backlash is only in the west and it's already starting to die down if you compare episode 0 to the latest. A lot more positive reactions were posted. |
Apr 18, 2018 10:04 AM
#326
Darklight0303 said: DrakeHur said: kanyalmohit said: Yes the new art seems to be taken from LNs, but I still liked old art from season 1 to 3. The fight scene looked great, but the ecchi scene looked worse to me (mainly Rias & Akeno's art). I see people saying all they care about is anime to remain faithful to LN story and don't care about art, well then why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs or re-read them in case u have already finished because no matter what, anime can't do 100% justice to LN story (even season 1 & 2 left some bits). That last bit was such a horrible point...and weak for that matter..."Why even watch the anime? Just read the LNs"? Well maybe because some of us dont WANT to read it? Some of us may want to be working on something Whilst watching an anime, Cant do that with a LN...Yeah Anime Cant and WONT be 100% accurate lol Take season 3 for example...apparently that was a mess according to the fans of the franchise... I for one however welcome the new Art style, Why you may ask? because i dont care what it looks like so long as its animated lol I want to be able to sit down with Everyone not just sit there quietly reading something and falling asleep halfway through it. I'll be honest here, and this OPINION will be a very unpopular one, no doubt, But I'ma be real pissed off if all this backlash for the art style makes the studio give up one season in and we're stuck getting nothing more then the 4 season we got lol Why cant we just watch it and enjoy it? Don't worry. THe backlash is only in the west and it's already starting to die down if you compare episode 0 to the latest. A lot more positive reactions were posted. Yea. After episode 1 came out, the backlash started to simmer down. I saw a handful of people say that they now like the new style after seeing episode 1. This also proves the point that episode 0 wasn't being worked on as seriously as the rest of the series. The studio most likely just quickly blitz through episode 0 just so they could get it out for the anime-only viewers. Why would they spend lots of time and money on something like that? This also explains why there wasn't the same level of detailed on certain characters and backgrounds on episode 0 compared to 1. If the rest of the season looks like episode 1, it's gonna be amazing. |
Apr 18, 2018 11:03 AM
#327
Darklight0303 said: Ghiee said: MaxxV said: new art style is fu*** garbage. Miss my old Rias and Akeno 😭😭 Agreee... Rias Asia Koneko its look Like Weird T_T also at action scene Better from Prev Studio >.> Better is not good? What? You're making zero sense Check this one Rias Gremory style almost same as Tamaki ako from netoge No Yome |
Apr 18, 2018 11:04 AM
#328
I do really like the old art style most. The new one is like too much simple comparing both talking about details. |
Apr 18, 2018 11:07 AM
#329
ThePromidius said: I do really like the old art style most. The new one is like too much simple comparing both talking about details. same i will choose TNK style/grafic Studio than now xD |
Apr 18, 2018 11:16 AM
#330
Ghiee said: ThePromidius said: I do really like the old art style most. The new one is like too much simple comparing both talking about details. same i will choose TNK style/grafic Studio than now xD You will choose? You think they're going to change it back just cause you don't like it? |
Apr 18, 2018 11:37 AM
#331
Darklight0303 said: Ghiee said: ThePromidius said: I do really like the old art style most. The new one is like too much simple comparing both talking about details. same i will choose TNK style/grafic Studio than now xD You will choose? You think they're going to change it back just cause you don't like it? No, dont think their going to change back just giving my opinion |
Apr 18, 2018 11:57 AM
#332
Darklight0303 said: Ghiee said: ThePromidius said: I do really like the old art style most. The new one is like too much simple comparing both talking about details. same i will choose TNK style/grafic Studio than now xD You will choose? You think they're going to change it back just cause you don't like it? Well If S 1 - S3 and new season i will Choose Old Studio TNK,idk the new Art style and grafic iam not like it :D that's my opinion and also they wont change it if only 1 Fans say it. |
Apr 18, 2018 12:06 PM
#333
Personally I prefer the old art style, the new style kinda changes the personality 3 seasons has set in the characters (especially Rias I feel) but I think I can get used to it eventually, just depends on how this season plays out |
Apr 18, 2018 12:09 PM
#334
I like both art styles. But i like the new one more. |
Apr 18, 2018 1:07 PM
#335
Darklight0303 said: You will choose? You think they're going to change it back just cause you don't like it? And you think being a passive aggressive asshole towards others will somehow change their personal opinion? |
Apr 18, 2018 2:03 PM
#337
New art is completely trash for this series. The biggest disappointment is Akeno and Roswiesse look terrible (cute) now and not as sexy. The show could barely be taken seriously with it's old (better) art, so now that it has new 'cute' art, I am at a loss for words here. Also, Gasper looks even queerer than before. |
Yuki_NonakaApr 18, 2018 2:10 PM
Apr 18, 2018 2:26 PM
#338
new art style is shit |
Apr 18, 2018 7:10 PM
#339
Lets just enjoy these few months of Hero and hope that Passionate is inspired to get more DXD seasons Whatever the art DxD is still awesome DxD forever |
Apr 19, 2018 12:18 PM
#340
ToBe2050goal said: Lets just enjoy these few months of Hero and hope that Passionate is inspired to get more DXD seasons Whatever the art DxD is still awesome DxD forever Now Rating for new season is Down, T_T not same as before. iam Very Like DxD ofc iam like to make Guild or group in My Online Game LOL |
Apr 19, 2018 12:20 PM
#341
Yuki_Nonaka said: New art is completely trash for this series. The biggest disappointment is Akeno and Roswiesse look terrible (cute) now and not as sexy. The show could barely be taken seriously with it's old (better) art, so now that it has new 'cute' art, I am at a loss for words here. Also, Gasper looks even queerer than before. Also RIAS SENPAI Koneko and ASIA CHAN T_T if Cute and Sexy or Hot i will choose Last 3 season Art ^_^ |
Apr 19, 2018 3:48 PM
#342
Teisen1991 said: looks like they just switched the studios XD ghoul got better and dxd goes downhill ..... If it was really worse, why the animation is now much more fluid? Also, how do you judge as better something that is not faithful to the original product (the LN)? |
Apr 19, 2018 8:18 PM
#343
Ghiee said: ToBe2050goal said: Lets just enjoy these few months of Hero and hope that Passionate is inspired to get more DXD seasons Whatever the art DxD is still awesome DxD forever Now Rating for new season is Down, T_T not same as before. iam Very Like DxD ofc iam like to make Guild or group in My Online Game LOL Is this statement true? I read in other forums that the pre-screen was a huge success I just hope 1 more season is adapted to get volumes 11 and 12 |
Apr 21, 2018 2:49 AM
#344
Yes, you totally can clearly see the difference and tell which art style has changed for the better |
Apr 21, 2018 4:28 AM
#345
Riverlia said: Yes, you totally can clearly see the difference and tell which art style has changed for the better Well I agree with you that new artwork is better as it provides higher quality of jiggle physics which tbh DxD is all about. But this kind of artwork make the action scenes suffer. |
Apr 21, 2018 5:10 AM
#346
EYeager said: Riverlia said: Yes, you totally can clearly see the difference and tell which art style has changed for the better Well I agree with you that new artwork is better as it provides higher quality of jiggle physics which tbh DxD is all about. But this kind of artwork make the action scenes suffer. DxD Hero's capability in term of action scene has already been proven in episode 1, with Issei vs Sairaorg. Whole body movement of the armor, clearly animated combat, fluid movement. So whether the artwork made it harder or not, the studio proved they can handle it. Though to begin with, a rounder, less angular design should make animating action scene easier, not harder. TNK on the other hand was overly relied on semi-still (almost fixed pose minimal movement) then use cut away to mimic motion (ie animate Issei cocking his hand, black screen, Issei already hit). Sometime they use close in to avoid large whole body motion, and at other time use a much less detailed armor if they couldn't get away with it. It make for good screenshots because they made the semi-still armors as shiny as possible to compensate/distract viewer, but not that great at conveying the fight in motion. Put the design drawn by the designers next to each other, it's true that old style has somewhat more details and looks more mature due to more angular shape (aesthetically better or not is subjective and case by case for each character, so no comment). However, when being animated, the one drawing the scene isn't the designer, but animation staff. A complicated design will still be simplified if they lack time and money, or if they simply just can't replicate the designer's skill. A more angular design also make it harder/more time consuming to draw multiple continuous frames for an action without something sticking out at the wrong place. Rounder = less likely for fuck up and easier to fix. That, and I guess Passione animation staff is just better than the one TNK had on DxD duty. They really mistreated one of their best cash source. |
RiverliaApr 21, 2018 5:35 AM
Apr 21, 2018 1:19 PM
#347
I prefer the old art. There's much more contrast and detailed shading, and the characters looked more refined. The new art is much lighter and softer and doesn't pop out as much. However, the new art isn't a dealbreaker and I can get used to it. Just continue to deliver on the story and nudity and I'll be fine. |
Apr 21, 2018 6:35 PM
#348
after seeing the new episodes i got to say i dislike the new art style, it makes rias head look too egg shape, and I know everyone quick to defend it by saying it closer to the art style of the vn, and in my opinion as someone who read the novels , this new art style doesnt come close to it, it may have the softer tone, but it went too overboard with it, it made me feel like im watching a moe blob comedy anime, which dxd isnt really , yes it has moment like that but it also has a darker tone to it as well, so when those darker tones comes it feel like a meh moment cause the softer tone takes away from it. idk this became a series where i would all the episodes when they come to a series where i m gonna watch probly till a whole yr or till i finish my list of anime to watch . |
Apr 21, 2018 9:30 PM
#349
SoraShiroBlank said: after seeing the new episodes i got to say i dislike the new art style, it makes rias head look too egg shape, and I know everyone quick to defend it by saying it closer to the art style of the vn, and in my opinion as someone who read the novels , this new art style doesnt come close to it, it may have the softer tone, but it went too overboard with it, it made me feel like im watching a moe blob comedy anime, which dxd isnt really , yes it has moment like that but it also has a darker tone to it as well, so when those darker tones comes it feel like a meh moment cause the softer tone takes away from it. idk this became a series where i would all the episodes when they come to a series where i m gonna watch probly till a whole yr or till i finish my list of anime to watch . Moe design or not (and it's very debatable if Hero design qualify as moe) doesn't affect dark or sad moment. That is up to the director execution, not the design. For example, in the Visual Novel scene, Key is known for moe as fuck design and tear jerking as hell stories. Similarly no one can look at Planetarian and say it's not cutesie, but it's undeniably a tragedy piece. There is a reason the cute kid dying is such a classic tragedy plot. |
Apr 21, 2018 10:08 PM
#350
lets just support the anime to get more seasons in 2019 or 2020 DxD forever |
Apr 23, 2018 4:45 AM
#351
Riverlia said: EYeager said: Riverlia said: Yes, you totally can clearly see the difference and tell which art style has changed for the better Well I agree with you that new artwork is better as it provides higher quality of jiggle physics which tbh DxD is all about. But this kind of artwork make the action scenes suffer. DxD Hero's capability in term of action scene has already been proven in episode 1, with Issei vs Sairaorg. Whole body movement of the armor, clearly animated combat, fluid movement. So whether the artwork made it harder or not, the studio proved they can handle it. Though to begin with, a rounder, less angular design should make animating action scene easier, not harder. TNK on the other hand was overly relied on semi-still (almost fixed pose minimal movement) then use cut away to mimic motion (ie animate Issei cocking his hand, black screen, Issei already hit). Sometime they use close in to avoid large whole body motion, and at other time use a much less detailed armor if they couldn't get away with it. It make for good screenshots because they made the semi-still armors as shiny as possible to compensate/distract viewer, but not that great at conveying the fight in motion. Put the design drawn by the designers next to each other, it's true that old style has somewhat more details and looks more mature due to more angular shape (aesthetically better or not is subjective and case by case for each character, so no comment). However, when being animated, the one drawing the scene isn't the designer, but animation staff. A complicated design will still be simplified if they lack time and money, or if they simply just can't replicate the designer's skill. A more angular design also make it harder/more time consuming to draw multiple continuous frames for an action without something sticking out at the wrong place. Rounder = less likely for fuck up and easier to fix. That, and I guess Passione animation staff is just better than the one TNK had on DxD duty. They really mistreated one of their best cash source. I don't mean to be rude but you reminded me of this guy when I read your reply. |
Apr 23, 2018 6:17 AM
#352
EYeager said: Riverlia said: EYeager said: Riverlia said: Yes, you totally can clearly see the difference and tell which art style has changed for the better Well I agree with you that new artwork is better as it provides higher quality of jiggle physics which tbh DxD is all about. But this kind of artwork make the action scenes suffer. DxD Hero's capability in term of action scene has already been proven in episode 1, with Issei vs Sairaorg. Whole body movement of the armor, clearly animated combat, fluid movement. So whether the artwork made it harder or not, the studio proved they can handle it. Though to begin with, a rounder, less angular design should make animating action scene easier, not harder. TNK on the other hand was overly relied on semi-still (almost fixed pose minimal movement) then use cut away to mimic motion (ie animate Issei cocking his hand, black screen, Issei already hit). Sometime they use close in to avoid large whole body motion, and at other time use a much less detailed armor if they couldn't get away with it. It make for good screenshots because they made the semi-still armors as shiny as possible to compensate/distract viewer, but not that great at conveying the fight in motion. Put the design drawn by the designers next to each other, it's true that old style has somewhat more details and looks more mature due to more angular shape (aesthetically better or not is subjective and case by case for each character, so no comment). However, when being animated, the one drawing the scene isn't the designer, but animation staff. A complicated design will still be simplified if they lack time and money, or if they simply just can't replicate the designer's skill. A more angular design also make it harder/more time consuming to draw multiple continuous frames for an action without something sticking out at the wrong place. Rounder = less likely for fuck up and easier to fix. That, and I guess Passione animation staff is just better than the one TNK had on DxD duty. They really mistreated one of their best cash source. I don't mean to be rude but you reminded me of this guy when I read your reply. Internet. You don't explain, people say your opinion is unfounded or has zero content. You explain they call you talkative. I simply opt for the later. Next time I'll just say "BS, Hero Life 1 action > TNK", if that's your style. |
RiverliaApr 23, 2018 8:03 AM
Apr 23, 2018 5:53 PM
#353
Lets just be supportive of the Hero season hope Passionate or any other studio continues to anime more DxD season in 2019 or 2020. |
Apr 23, 2018 9:39 PM
#354
I think in this new season the animation is like in LN and the others are very similar. I wish there will be another season |
Apr 23, 2018 9:45 PM
#355
JackDanielz said: I think in this new season the animation is like in LN and the others are very similar. I wish there will be another season I could not agree MORE Season 5 in 2019 or 2020 |
Apr 24, 2018 3:29 PM
#356
At this very moment, after seeing the special and first 2 episodes. I don't dislike it, it's just a matter of getting used to it. Eventho in the new art the girls look to be more THICC. |
Apr 24, 2018 4:15 PM
#357
Having viewed both now I can only say that the new style just looks cheap. |
Apr 24, 2018 5:55 PM
#358
lets continue supporting the anime I think if the colour of the characters were more dark than people would like the new art For me DxD is still awesome and hope to see a season 5 covering volumes 11 and 12 after Hero in 2019 or 2020 DxD forever |
Apr 24, 2018 5:57 PM
#359
The new art style and the old stlyle are both good, the new style is more fluid which helps in the fighting scenes and boobs movements (which looks pretty good) the problem is that it looks less attractive and the characters look a lot puffier but in the end it doesn't matter for me cause i like it and it looks good, it just takes getting used too, by far the story is being a big improvement from what Born was but in terms of fan-service they need to step it up a bit cause High School DxD is more daring than this... |
viktheoneApr 24, 2018 6:10 PM
Apr 24, 2018 6:49 PM
#360
viktheone said: The new art style and the old stlyle are both good, the new style is more fluid which helps in the fighting scenes and boobs movements (which looks pretty good) the problem is that it looks less attractive and the characters look a lot puffier. Yeah I LIKE YOUR POINTS Lets hope season 5 is announced after Hero for 2019 or 2020 DXD FOREVER |
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