Besides the original VN (Fate, UBW, HF) and anime, are other Fate works worth looking at??

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toyall123 said:
I heard that the Tsukihime manga was a solid adaptation. Is this true?

Yes, it's pretty solid. Arcueid route with some mixtures from Ciel route. It's worth seeing.

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toyall123 said:
I heard that the Tsukihime manga was a solid adaptation. Is this true?

I've heard it's good. The two routes it pulls from do not go deep into the whole story since there are 3 more routes that give more overall information.

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Yeah I read it, it was pretty good and at the time I didn't know shit about Tsukihime, but I still understood the entire story.

There's still some tears and twists left. T.T

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nocorras said:

RinPriest said:
Yeah I read it, it was pretty good and at the time I didn't know shit about Tsukihime, but I still understood the entire story.

There's still some tears and twists left. T.T

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RinPriest said:

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So many spoliers. Must not click ,only read manga.
Knk is by far my favorite type-moon work.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

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So many spoliers. Must not click ,only read manga.
Knk is by far my favorite type-moon work.

Yeah that was a top secret conversation, it basically unveils the whole underlying plot of the Tsukihime VN.

Avoid at all costs.

Nov 21, 2014 2:49 AM

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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.

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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.

Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*

Nov 21, 2014 2:57 AM

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BotatoPriest said:

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Anyone who claims prillya is "Just a spin off" clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on.

Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*

the idea of "spin off' is defeated by concept of multiverse anyway.

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CookingPriest said:

BotatoPriest said:

Spin off does not make it not canon does it?

*Goes back to reading 3rei*

the idea of "spin off' is defeated by concept of multiverse anyway.

Yup once a work joins the multiverse, it can no longer be a spinoff

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Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.

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FakePriest said:
Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.

Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.

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CookingPriest said:

FakePriest said:
Well it depends,even among the fanbase people do consider FSN and FZ the MAIN and ORIGINAL storyline.Everything else is a spin off but equally canon with FSN and FZ.

Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.

Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.

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FakePriest said:

CookingPriest said:

Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.

Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.

You mean Nasuverse?

Oh wait, that includes everything :E

Because if FSN is "main series" then stuff like Tsukihime or KNK are not?

Hence why I cringe everytime someone asks about "main story" or "canon series" in nasuverse.

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CookingPriest said:

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Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.

You mean Nasuverse?

Oh wait, that includes everything :E

Because if FSN is "main series" then stuff like Tsukihime or KNK are not?

Hence why I cringe everytime someone asks about "main story" or "canon series" in nasuverse.

Fake probably wanted to say that F/SN and F/Z are Fate/ "core", as if everything else Fate/ related builds off the information established in them.

At least that's my interpretation.

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If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.

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FakePriest said:

CookingPriest said:

Isn't that sort of hypocritical?

I mean even FSN are three storylines that in no way can be connected.

Okay..wrong choice of words...MAIN SERIES.

But is FSN even the Main Series in the Nasuverse? Tsukihime came first, Kara No Kyoukai expanded on a different direction of the multiverse, then FSN came and built on the success of both those novels. If Anything Mahoyo would be the main series since it is the original Idea that everything else is built around as well as it digs in deeper to the overall world that they all fall into.
That's why you kind of can't put anything into the Main Series catagory.
If FSN was alone and there were no connections with the rest of the universe other than simple nods then that might be possible, but the fact that the entire fsn world is just a piece of the bigger puzzle and there are so many branching paths. It can no longer be called THE main series.

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^The order is actually Mahoyo, KNK, Tsukihime, Fate, I think.
To clarify, Mahoyo was written but never published in 96 or so.
Then KNK was released as single chapters from '98 on, though was only published properly in 2004 or so.
Tsukihime, 2000. (?)
F/SN, 2004.

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^all of what was said above.

Basically that's why calling something "MAIN" is cringeworthy in context of nasuverse and shows that the one who uses it does not "get it".

You would be surprised on how many times I seen the argument that "Illya is a non canon spin off, because it is alternate story to what happens in "main fate".

Aurioch said:

Fake probably wanted to say that F/SN and F/Z are Fate/ "core", as if everything else Fate/ related builds off the information established in them.

At least that's my interpretation.

You mean except for EXTRA and Apocrypha, right? Then what are those?
Or what is tsukihime since it happens just before FSN? But if tsuki is main then is Kara no Kyoukai a spin off? :)

Hence using "MAIN SERIES" term is stupid.

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Well, actually, it IS a spinoff. The root of Fate/ being Fate Stay Night, and it was created by a fan, as was Zero and others actually. But it's still canon....and confusing.....Lel, I thought you guys were talking about the main Fate/ thing, but then it changed? XD

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InsertPriestHere said:
^The order is actually Mahoyo, KNK, Tsukihime, Fate, I think.
To clarify, Mahoyo was written but never published in 96 or so.
Then KNK was released as single chapters from '98 on, though was only published properly in 2004 or so.
Tsukihime, 2000. (?)
F/SN, 2004.

Oh yea I know that, that's why I said everything is built from the original Idea that was Mahou Tsuki. I know the VN was released a long time after.

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CookingPriest said:

Aurioch said:

Fake probably wanted to say that F/SN and F/Z are Fate/ "core", as if everything else Fate/ related builds off the information established in them.

At least that's my interpretation.

You mean except for EXTRA and Apocrypha, right? Then what are those?
Or what is tsukihime since it happens just before FSN? But if tsuki is main then is Kara no Kyoukai a spin off? :)

Hence using "MAIN SERIES" term is stupid.

Excuse me but why bring Tsukihime and KnK into this? Fake is NOT talking about Nasuverse as a whole, he is only talking about the part of it called "Fate/ franchise."

Not talking about canonicity.
Not talking about chronology.

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BotatoPriest said:

CookingPriest said:

You mean except for EXTRA and Apocrypha, right? Then what are those?
Or what is tsukihime since it happens just before FSN? But if tsuki is main then is Kara no Kyoukai a spin off? :)

Hence using "MAIN SERIES" term is stupid.

Excuse me but why bring Tsukihime and KnK into this? Fake is NOT talking about Nasuverse as a whole, he is only talking about the part of it called "Fate/ franchise."

Not talking about canonicity.
Not talking about chronology.

There's no "fate franchise".

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CookingPriest said:

BotatoPriest said:

Excuse me but why bring Tsukihime and KnK into this? Fake is NOT talking about Nasuverse as a whole, he is only talking about the part of it called "Fate/ franchise."

Not talking about canonicity.
Not talking about chronology.

There's no "fate franchise".

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NONE, THEY ARE ALL POINTLESS AND BORING

I'M GONE NOW

Nov 21, 2014 10:51 AM

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There's no "fate franchise".

k there is. But not in the sense you are trying to use - it can be used to categorize the works, but not "Separate" them.

Wanna separate them? K.

Then lets erase Touko from FSN, take away most of Kerry's backstory, take away Zelretch, etc.

Now fate franchise exists, yet half plots do not...work...because they depend on characters from other nasuverse parts.

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CookingPriest said:

k there is. But not in the sense you are trying to use - it can be used to categorize the works, but not "Separate" them.

Wanna separate them? K.

Then lets erase Touko from FSN, take away most of Kerry's backstory, take away Zelretch, etc.

Now fate franchise exists, yet half plots do not...work...because they depend on characters from other nasuverse parts.

I'm sorry, most normal people don't get riddles....

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Well without touko Hf true doesn't happen....

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.

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BotatoPriest said:

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There's no "fate franchise".

I laughed.

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I need to hunt down some new reaction pics because I am quickly running out of them.

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Well without touko Hf true doesn't happen....

No, it still happens, but Shirou dies instead, and his soul goes somewhere else. As much as I love her, HF True without Touko, is best ending :3

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black1blade said:
Well without touko Hf true doesn't happen....

No, it still happens, but Shirou dies instead, and his soul goes somewhere else. As much as I love her, HF True without Touko, is best ending :3

You have a funny way of spelling Normal End.

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You mean there is a different end to Heaven's Feel? Never heard of it /s

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The "normal" ending of HF can go die in a fire. Even if Touko bringing Shirou back to life was kind of an asspull, it was better than that shit.

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The "normal" ending of HF can go die in a fire. Even if Touko bringing Shirou back to life was kind of an asspull, it was better than that shit.

Did you somehow miss the 89698787 times this was discussed in the past 2 months?

If so, you have no idea what you just did. To put it simply, you opened Pandora's Box.

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Shintai said:
The "normal" ending of HF can go die in a fire. Even if Touko bringing Shirou back to life was kind of an asspull, it was better than that shit.

Did you somehow miss the 89698787 times this was discussed in the past 2 months?

If so, you have no idea what you just did. To put it simply, you opened Pandora's Box.

*Edit: Can anyone make a meme out of this Archer face and the line: "BRING IT ON"?

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BotatoPriest said:

Shintai said:
The "normal" ending of HF can go die in a fire. Even if Touko bringing Shirou back to life was kind of an asspull, it was better than that shit.

Did you somehow miss the 89698787 times this was discussed in the past 2 months?

If so, you have no idea what you just did. To put it simply, you opened Pandora's Box.

weeeelllll i kind of agreed with shintai and in the normal end we don't get the big finale. but anyway let's not go to much further away with the whole topic.

In my opinion: the main things of the Nasuverse are composed of everything that Nasu wrote

so for the fate franchise it would be stay night
hollow ataraxia
and also zero (yeah he didn't really wrote it but it's in the same continuity than stay night and he supervised it so.)

and also the Fate/extra and ccc but it's in an alternate universe.

But the other stuff are very good, prisma ilya kick ass (i have a lot of trouble to make my friends understand all the good stuff in it)

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I laughed.

XD me too

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weeeelllll i kind of agreed with shintai and in the normal end we don't get the big finale.

You could go to Normal End after the finale with Kirei. You just don't choose to wait for Illya to save you.

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BotatoPriest said:

Did you somehow miss the 89698787 times this was discussed in the past 2 months?

If so, you have no idea what you just did. To put it simply, you opened Pandora's Box.

*Edit: Can anyone make a meme out of this Archer face and the line: "BRING IT ON"?

It works as a rape face, too.

normalpriest said:

BotatoPriest said:

Did you somehow miss the 89698787 times this was discussed in the past 2 months?

If so, you have no idea what you just did. To put it simply, you opened Pandora's Box.

weeeelllll i kind of agreed with shintai and in the normal end we don't get the big finale. but anyway let's not go to much further away with the whole topic.

In my opinion: the main things of the Nasuverse are composed of everything that Nasu wrote

so for the fate franchise it would be stay night
hollow ataraxia
and also zero (yeah he didn't really wrote it but it's in the same continuity than stay night and he supervised it so.)

and also the Fate/extra and ccc but it's in an alternate universe.

But the other stuff are very good, prisma ilya kick ass (i have a lot of trouble to make my friends understand all the good stuff in it)

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I laughed.

XD me too

My point is: Don't start a True End vs. Normal End discussion war.

Seriously. Don't.

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My point is: Don't start a True End vs. Normal End discussion war.

Seriously. Don't.

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Man, the pictures in these threads. Lol.

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BotatoPriest said:
My point is: Don't start a True End vs. Normal End discussion war.

Seriously. Don't.

omg great

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Eh, the one with the creepy woman face was better. Why did you replace it you chicken?

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Eh, the one with the creepy woman face was better. Why did you replace it you chicken?

I'm sorry but it's...

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i actually prefer the dog

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i actually prefer the dog

Yeah, I think the dog is more troll-ish...

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Hmm.. 2 new reaction pics, thanks chicken!

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