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blackslash32 said: Talukita said: Looks like people in this forum still have some troubles with power scaling so I guess I should clear things up a bit: . 7 years ago Sting is only around Wendy age and level (look at the flashback). So 7 years skip only let them to close the gap to pre-skip Natsu level, so obviously they still get wrecked with Second Origin Natsu. How do you know that the timeskip is 7 years ago? Anyhow look at Wendy, she is incredebly powerfull, ex. she was capable to bring jellal back. I dont want to know what she can do in 7 years and dont forget that 7 years is a long time. Just look at One Piece, what Luffy and his crew acomplished in only 3 years. Talukita said: . Dragon Force power is unstable, Natsu levels of feats the 2 time he went DF are also different considering that he ate 2 entirely different materials to activate that mode. Sting and Rogue probably use the boost from their lacrymas to go DF, basically a shortcut, easier to get, but also weaker. Natsu in DF was able to destroy a large part of the Tower of Heaven in one mere punch compared to Sting's petty breath. They can activate it at will, meaning they should also be able to activate it while training and train with it, so its more stable. By using their own lacrymas they might have created a shotcut but that doesnt mean it should also be alot weaker. Talukita said: . Even in DF mode Zero still got the upperhand against Natsu and he stated that the reason is this: Natsu was still able to defeat Zero anyway, and he was on a entirly different level. Talukita said: . In this fight Natsu also said the samething to Sting: Manga reader says something different: Talukita said: => This implies that Sting and Rogue haven't mastered their DF yet, even Natsu himself still hasn't anyway. Think about it like just because you are Dragon Slayer doesn't mean that every DS is equal with each other *cough Laxus cough*!!! Laxus still lost in a 2v1. Talukita said: . Thinking DF Sting being equal to pre-skip DF is like thinking DF Sting is more powerful than Jellal (or a Wizard Saint like Jura) and base Natsu, being able to tank DF Sting and Rogue Unison Raid casually, is nothing different from tanking a combination of spells like these at the same time: So until Sting and Rogue performances are on the same scale with these spells, come back and think that they have the chance against them. Right now either Laxus, Jellal, or Jura is probably enough to take down the whole ST guild casually aside from maybe Genma. Maybe Erza and Mira can also whoop both Sting and Rogue asses like there is nobody business. Sting solo attack: Talukita said: . Also don't use argument like since Natsu take on both DF Sting and Rogue at the same time means that he has Sting power x 2. No, no and no. May I ask you that does your speed increase if there are 2 of you? No. If there are spells that can one shot you, what stops them from one shotting you again even when you have more people around you? Will it increase your level of intelligence or experience? Also no. So quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity. That's how Laxus was able to solo Raven Tail easily, each member can only take 1 or 2 hits lol. The only part may change is that their offense power when they use Unison Raid, but that's still not enough. I said he had the power of Sting + Rogue. But just think about it this way, when Natsu attacks Sting he is open for an attack by Rogue and vise versa. Talukita said: To sum up it's not an asspull in this chapter that Natsu win, ST is just overhyped like usual. I have more problems with Natsu characters (how arrogant he is, or how selfish he is when he kicks Gajeel out and want to shine on his own, etc) rather than he winning against both of them. Agreed, Natsu was arrogant and selfish. But also Mevis was a bitch in this chapter. @STing's attack: your example fails. Natsu burst straight through the whole Tower of Eden. So sorry busting the floor of an Arena is NOWHERE near the same thing. Everything else works both ways so not going to bother since you take their words as gospel when there is little to back up their claims in the manga up to this point |
Darklight0303Aug 27, 2012 7:52 AM
Darklight0303 said: blackslash32 said: Talukita said: Looks like people in this forum still have some troubles with power scaling so I guess I should clear things up a bit: . 7 years ago Sting is only around Wendy age and level (look at the flashback). So 7 years skip only let them to close the gap to pre-skip Natsu level, so obviously they still get wrecked with Second Origin Natsu. How do you know that the timeskip is 7 years ago? Anyhow look at Wendy, she is incredebly powerfull, ex. she was capable to bring jellal back. I dont want to know what she can do in 7 years and dont forget that 7 years is a long time. Just look at One Piece, what Luffy and his crew acomplished in only 3 years. Talukita said: . Dragon Force power is unstable, Natsu levels of feats the 2 time he went DF are also different considering that he ate 2 entirely different materials to activate that mode. Sting and Rogue probably use the boost from their lacrymas to go DF, basically a shortcut, easier to get, but also weaker. Natsu in DF was able to destroy a large part of the Tower of Heaven in one mere punch compared to Sting's petty breath. They can activate it at will, meaning they should also be able to activate it while training and train with it, so its more stable. By using their own lacrymas they might have created a shotcut but that doesnt mean it should also be alot weaker. Talukita said: . Even in DF mode Zero still got the upperhand against Natsu and he stated that the reason is this: Natsu was still able to defeat Zero anyway, and he was on a entirly different level. Talukita said: . In this fight Natsu also said the samething to Sting: Manga reader says something different: Talukita said: => This implies that Sting and Rogue haven't mastered their DF yet, even Natsu himself still hasn't anyway. Think about it like just because you are Dragon Slayer doesn't mean that every DS is equal with each other *cough Laxus cough*!!! Laxus still lost in a 2v1. Talukita said: . Thinking DF Sting being equal to pre-skip DF is like thinking DF Sting is more powerful than Jellal (or a Wizard Saint like Jura) and base Natsu, being able to tank DF Sting and Rogue Unison Raid casually, is nothing different from tanking a combination of spells like these at the same time: So until Sting and Rogue performances are on the same scale with these spells, come back and think that they have the chance against them. Right now either Laxus, Jellal, or Jura is probably enough to take down the whole ST guild casually aside from maybe Genma. Maybe Erza and Mira can also whoop both Sting and Rogue asses like there is nobody business. Sting solo attack: Talukita said: . Also don't use argument like since Natsu take on both DF Sting and Rogue at the same time means that he has Sting power x 2. No, no and no. May I ask you that does your speed increase if there are 2 of you? No. If there are spells that can one shot you, what stops them from one shotting you again even when you have more people around you? Will it increase your level of intelligence or experience? Also no. So quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity. That's how Laxus was able to solo Raven Tail easily, each member can only take 1 or 2 hits lol. The only part may change is that their offense power when they use Unison Raid, but that's still not enough. I said he had the power of Sting + Rogue. But just think about it this way, when Natsu attacks Sting he is open for an attack by Rogue and vise versa. Talukita said: To sum up it's not an asspull in this chapter that Natsu win, ST is just overhyped like usual. I have more problems with Natsu characters (how arrogant he is, or how selfish he is when he kicks Gajeel out and want to shine on his own, etc) rather than he winning against both of them. Agreed, Natsu was arrogant and selfish. But also Mevis was a bitch in this chapter. @STing's attack: your example fails. Natsu burst straight through the whole Tower of Eden. So sorry busting the floor of an Arena is NOWHERE near the same thing. Everything else works both ways so not going to bother since you take their words as gospel when there is little to back up their claims in the manga up to this point Thank you although Natsu beating Sting and Rogue may bother some fans but the bigger problem is how he did it (selfishly while stealing Gajeel's moment to shine) |
| Well that just shows he needs to grow some more. Unless we happen to find out Gajeel took more damage than it looked or something along those lines. |
| I know this is off topic but I want to see Natsu get that next jump in power where I can consider him to be an S Class Mage. Right now he is way to brash and his techniques needs some refining. I would love to see a controlled dragon slayer where his attacks don't go overboard, where everything is crisp timed and percise. For some reason I just can't imagine Natsu beating Gildarts, Laxus or Erza anytime soon. They seem way more polished and not so wasteful in their attacks. |
| I think he may polish up once Lucy goes MIA after this arc. He needs a really big shock and that is big enough. |
| Why does he need to become stronger when he already has ♥ the power of love and friendship ♥ |
Darklight0303 said: I think he may polish up once Lucy goes MIA after this arc. He needs a really big shock and that is big enough. Yep,that's truth. It's truth that he was just mad at Sting for doing the same thing before and being beaten by only one person will leave a bigger shock to Sting and Rogue. About Rogue:I think his backstory and his relation to Gajeel will be shown soon and the only reason that story of both of them got out of the way is probably because we'll be seeing more of Sting and Rogue in future chapters.They are both DS with dragon "parents" so it's clear they're important.I believe the way the battle ended has a connection with their future role too.Being beaten up by a single DS will make them grow up for sure. |
blackslash32 said: Why does he need to become stronger when he already has ♥ the power of love and friendship ♥ Selective reading again =_= look at what Darkdrone said and meant. You won't have people dumbing and holding your hand through things on the internet all the time, bub. |
Darklight0303 said: blackslash32 said: Why does he need to become stronger when he already has ♥ the power of love and friendship ♥ Selective reading again =_= look at what Darkdrone said and meant. You won't have people dumbing and holding your hand through things on the internet all the time, bub. well some1 didn't get the joke |
| Looking back... Gemma probably won't accept Sting's loss very well(Probably Rogue's loss too,but he didn't fail twice). |
alcorswindAug 27, 2012 5:54 PM
WolfWoods said: Looking back... Gemma probably won't accept Sting's loss very well(Probably Rogue's loss too,but he didn't fail twice). Yea, i also noticed that. There is a good chance that they will get kicked out of the guild, even though it would be a retarded decision to kick 2 of your strongest members. If they get kicked out, would you guys (still) want them to join FT? I don't want them to, not any more. If what we saw last chapter really was their full strength, they cant be that useful to the guild or the main story line. |
| ^ Did the three DS recieve that poor attention? Don't tell me that after the last fight where Gazeel got overshadowed that you forgot all past attention he recieved (even though it pales in comparison to natsu's). This isn't the end of Sting and Rogue that much I can tell (and hope). Before this arc is over they will recieve appropriate respect and spotlight |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
blackslash32 said: WolfWoods said: Looking back... Gemma probably won't accept Sting's loss very well(Probably Rogue's loss too,but he didn't fail twice). Yea, i also noticed that. There is a good chance that they will get kicked out of the guild, even though it would be a retarded decision to kick 2 of your strongest members. If they get kicked out, would you guys (still) want them to join FT? I don't want them to, not any more. If what we saw last chapter really was their full strength, they cant be that useful to the guild or the main story line. remember the time when most of us hated Gajeel for beating up team shadow gear and Lucy? so yeah, the hate for sting and rogue will pass in time, I'm sure |
| ^ So is haters' behaviour and their attempts to belittle everything |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| I feel like some people in this thread should look into taking an Argument and Debate class when they start attending college. It would do wonders for some of the comments here. For the people who come into these threads and talk about how much they hate the manga and are going to drop it, why don't you? I get coming in to have a discussion about issues you have with a specific chapter or story line, but if you are making threats about dropping the manga then you obviously don't enjoy it. You do not need to justify to the MAL community why you are dropping this. For those who are upset about the power ups, you have to make sure you do not fall into the trap of expecting that because it is written it must be true. Until there is proof of power or abilities everything is just pure speculation. The only people you really know the power of in this manga are the members of Fairy Tail and the people they have defeated so far. It is quite easy to get a reputation without really having the proof to back it up. Take for instance the very beginning of this manga. While Natsu was strong, he was not the equivalent to a S Class mage. However, he was one of the most well known mages. Most of that was due to his destructive nature, but it was misconstrued by the public as power. Remember that at the very beginning of this manga Fairy Tail was considered the #1 guild in Fiore. That was before Lucy joined and became strong. That was before Juvia, Gajeel, and Wendy joined. It was before all the events with Gray and Natsu that solidified them as two of the more powerful mages in the guild. They were #1 even though Elfman was at half power and Mira was essentially useless. A lot has changed in Fairy Tail pointing in the direction of them getting stronger, not weaker. I am sure the other guilds have changed and added their own power as well, but we don't know that for sure yet. Again, all we know is Fairy Tail. Since they have returned we have seen them really only lose in odd events that weren't battles. The only real exception to this is the Lucy battle. It is obvious that the girl she fought was much stronger than her, but Lucy has never been considered the top tier of Fairy Tail and has always been less powerful than the others. That would make sense considering how late a start she had in being a mage. Is it really surprising that the top members in FT would not be losing? They have proven repeatedly in the manga that their top tier mages are not to be trifled with. |
Nuluvian said: I feel like some people in this thread should look into taking an Argument and Debate class when they start attending college. It would do wonders for some of the comments here. For the people who come into these threads and talk about how much they hate the manga and are going to drop it, why don't you? I get coming in to have a discussion about issues you have with a specific chapter or story line, but if you are making threats about dropping the manga then you obviously don't enjoy it. You do not need to justify to the MAL community why you are dropping this. For those who are upset about the power ups, you have to make sure you do not fall into the trap of expecting that because it is written it must be true. Until there is proof of power or abilities everything is just pure speculation. The only people you really know the power of in this manga are the members of Fairy Tail and the people they have defeated so far. It is quite easy to get a reputation without really having the proof to back it up. Take for instance the very beginning of this manga. While Natsu was strong, he was not the equivalent to a S Class mage. However, he was one of the most well known mages. Most of that was due to his destructive nature, but it was misconstrued by the public as power. Remember that at the very beginning of this manga Fairy Tail was considered the #1 guild in Fiore. That was before Lucy joined and became strong. That was before Juvia, Gajeel, and Wendy joined. It was before all the events with Gray and Natsu that solidified them as two of the more powerful mages in the guild. They were #1 even though Elfman was at half power and Mira was essentially useless. A lot has changed in Fairy Tail pointing in the direction of them getting stronger, not weaker. I am sure the other guilds have changed and added their own power as well, but we don't know that for sure yet. Again, all we know is Fairy Tail. Since they have returned we have seen them really only lose in odd events that weren't battles. The only real exception to this is the Lucy battle. It is obvious that the girl she fought was much stronger than her, but Lucy has never been considered the top tier of Fairy Tail and has always been less powerful than the others. That would make sense considering how late a start she had in being a mage. Is it really surprising that the top members in FT would not be losing? They have proven repeatedly in the manga that their top tier mages are not to be trifled with. Flare was not stronger than Lucy. Were in not for Obra or holding Asuka hostage, Lucy would have wiped the floor with her. |
| It's nice that Natsu powered up like hell and beat Sting and Rogue alone, but I was actually expecting more. And one of my expectations is seeing how Gajeel also powered up. At least that mysterious guy makes up for my disappointment. |
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| Well, Natsu is amazing, when he wants something he obtains it. |
| I was a little disappointed with Natsu's random power up but the double pages were pretty awesome. |
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| It was NOT a random powerup for heaven's sake. |
Darklight0303 said: It was NOT a random powerup for heaven's sake. Not random but unexpected how easily he took them down. I know he is a better fighter and has more experience but the main problem was the easyness of the whole thing. Considering those two were the stable of Sabertooth, it makes their Guild weak and pathetic after the 7 year timeskip. What the main problem is, is how convient the Wizard Tournament was and how sad the advancement of the other guilds were for 7 years. What people expected or wanted i guess was there to be a slow and tough road back to the top of Fiore but at this rate Fairy Tail will be back in dominance within months. Pretty sad how a guild who got little boost in power and 3 months of training are whooping the holy hell out of everyone. Fairy Tail needs a challenge and this tournament was disappointing in that regard. |
Darklight0303 said: Nuluvian said: I feel like some people in this thread should look into taking an Argument and Debate class when they start attending college. It would do wonders for some of the comments here. For the people who come into these threads and talk about how much they hate the manga and are going to drop it, why don't you? I get coming in to have a discussion about issues you have with a specific chapter or story line, but if you are making threats about dropping the manga then you obviously don't enjoy it. You do not need to justify to the MAL community why you are dropping this. For those who are upset about the power ups, you have to make sure you do not fall into the trap of expecting that because it is written it must be true. Until there is proof of power or abilities everything is just pure speculation. The only people you really know the power of in this manga are the members of Fairy Tail and the people they have defeated so far. It is quite easy to get a reputation without really having the proof to back it up. Take for instance the very beginning of this manga. While Natsu was strong, he was not the equivalent to a S Class mage. However, he was one of the most well known mages. Most of that was due to his destructive nature, but it was misconstrued by the public as power. Remember that at the very beginning of this manga Fairy Tail was considered the #1 guild in Fiore. That was before Lucy joined and became strong. That was before Juvia, Gajeel, and Wendy joined. It was before all the events with Gray and Natsu that solidified them as two of the more powerful mages in the guild. They were #1 even though Elfman was at half power and Mira was essentially useless. A lot has changed in Fairy Tail pointing in the direction of them getting stronger, not weaker. I am sure the other guilds have changed and added their own power as well, but we don't know that for sure yet. Again, all we know is Fairy Tail. Since they have returned we have seen them really only lose in odd events that weren't battles. The only real exception to this is the Lucy battle. It is obvious that the girl she fought was much stronger than her, but Lucy has never been considered the top tier of Fairy Tail and has always been less powerful than the others. That would make sense considering how late a start she had in being a mage. Is it really surprising that the top members in FT would not be losing? They have proven repeatedly in the manga that their top tier mages are not to be trifled with. Flare was not stronger than Lucy. Were in not for Obra or holding Asuka hostage, Lucy would have wiped the floor with her. If Lucy had any brains, she could kick Flare's ass. |
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| ....Wow your blind hate is really showing there, Fast >_> did you really miss the hostage situation and the Magic energy drain from the blocked Urano Metria? Darkdrone said: Darklight0303 said: It was NOT a random powerup for heaven's sake. Not random but unexpected how easily he took them down. I know he is a better fighter and has more experience but the main problem was the easyness of the whole thing. Considering those two were the stable of Sabertooth, it makes their Guild weak and pathetic after the 7 year timeskip. What the main problem is, is how convient the Wizard Tournament was and how sad the advancement of the other guilds were for 7 years. What people expected or wanted i guess was there to be a slow and tough road back to the top of Fiore but at this rate Fairy Tail will be back in dominance within months. Pretty sad how a guild who got little boost in power and 3 months of training are whooping the holy hell out of everyone. Fairy Tail needs a challenge and this tournament was disappointing in that regard. The challenge is more likely to come if say the council decides to disband them or something along those lines. The tournament lost any chance of being a challenge plotwise the moment the Eclipse plan was shown |
Darkdrone said: Fairy Tail needs a challenge and this tournament was disappointing in that regard. We better wait for the tourament to end before thinking that already.We don't know what's going to happen now,after all. Darklight0303 said: The challenge is more likely to come if say the council decides to disband them or something along those lines. The tournament lost any chance of being a challenge plotwise the moment the Eclipse plan was shown ^ This too.The purpose of this tournament wasn't being a challenge. |
alcorswindAug 28, 2012 10:45 AM
| Actually if Lucy is involved in the collapse of the palace...FT may get disbanded by the Council since she is one of FT |
| Ugh Lucy ruins everything. I don't like her personality, the way she relies on so many people, how she almost always gets her ass beat and how she s a bitch. Only reason why people aren't put off with her character is her tits. Hiro knows how to fan service and mask out how useless some characters are. |
Darklight0303 said: Actually if Lucy is involved in the collapse of the palace...FT may get disbanded by the Council since she is one of FT Yeah,I always thought FT would someday get disbanded by the council(nobody likes FT over there).Maybe now is the time.But what about after that?Would they become a Dark Guild? That could be interesting. |
WolfWoods said: Darklight0303 said: Actually if Lucy is involved in the collapse of the palace...FT may get disbanded by the Council since she is one of FT Yeah,I always thought FT would someday get disbanded by the council(nobody likes FT over there).Maybe now is the time.But what about after that?Would they become a Dark Guild? That could be interesting. Them becoming a dark guild would indeed be interesting. Ironically it would also lead to people questioning the council I suspect. At least those guilds that have fought alongside FT anyway. |
Darklight0303 said: The challenge is more likely to come if say the council decides to disband them or something along those lines. The tournament lost any chance of being a challenge plotwise the moment the Eclipse plan was shown ^ This too.The purpose of this tournament wasn't being a challenge. Now, that's just stupid. |
blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: The challenge is more likely to come if say the council decides to disband them or something along those lines. The tournament lost any chance of being a challenge plotwise the moment the Eclipse plan was shown ^ This too.The purpose of this tournament wasn't being a challenge. Now, that's just stupid. No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. |
Darklight0303Aug 28, 2012 2:31 PM
Darklight0303 said: No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. Look at the Naruto tournament, where new characters got to show their amazing strength and teach Naruto that he still has a long road ahead and won't make it by eating ramen all day. |
blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. Look at the Naruto tournament, where new characters got to show their amazing strength and teach Naruto that he still has a long road ahead and won't make it by eating ramen all day. ....You're really going to use Naruto as a positive example huh? Yea not going to bother with you anymore. |
Darklight0303 said: blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. Look at the Naruto tournament, where new characters got to show their amazing strength and teach Naruto that he still has a long road ahead and won't make it by eating ramen all day. ....You're really going to use Naruto as a positive example huh? Yea not going to bother with you anymore. Hater alert! btw you were the one bringing up other manga |
blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. Look at the Naruto tournament, where new characters got to show their amazing strength and teach Naruto that he still has a long road ahead and won't make it by eating ramen all day. ....You're really going to use Naruto as a positive example huh? Yea not going to bother with you anymore. Hater alert! btw you were the one bringing up other manga Your really gonna bring up naruto? Naruto has more ass pull power ups than Natsu can ever have, the dude has a near limitless chakra pool from the fox and can tap into it at will. Don't compare a dude who has a freaken chakra fieldhouse up in his belly to a dude who spits out fire. |
Darkdrone said: blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: blackslash32 said: Darklight0303 said: No it's not. Look at DBZ's tournaments. in dragonball its the coming of picollo and the 2nd time was the cell saga 3rd time was babidi They were all flashy shows hiding the true plot beneath. It's a classic move. Look at the Naruto tournament, where new characters got to show their amazing strength and teach Naruto that he still has a long road ahead and won't make it by eating ramen all day. ....You're really going to use Naruto as a positive example huh? Yea not going to bother with you anymore. Hater alert! btw you were the one bringing up other manga Your really gonna bring up naruto? Naruto has more ass pull power ups than Natsu can ever have, the dude has a near limitless chakra pool from the fox and can tap into it at will. Don't compare a dude who has a freaken chakra fieldhouse up in his belly to a dude who spits out fire. i didn't do that, i just compared the fact that the tournament in naruto was actually exiting compared to the tournament in Fairy Tail. Did you even read what i posted? |
....but we've know about the stuff that's been happening around this tournament in FT for a while now,so we know the Tournament isn't everything.Even so,there have been a lot of great moments and fights,and that's beyond great. |
alcorswindAug 28, 2012 6:32 PM
WolfWoods said: Well,yeah.The thing is that not every tournament has to be exciting till the end or even end,as shown on other manga. what? Spending over 30 chapters on a tournament that's not exciting is a big fail from the mangaka. |
blackslash32 said: WolfWoods said: Well,yeah.The thing is that not every tournament has to be exciting till the end or even end,as shown on other manga. what? Spending over 30 chapters on a tournament that's not exciting is a big fail from the mangaka. I mean that it doesn't have to be exciting on every single moment.After all there's always some rather weak fights to be covered(unless the author jumps all of them).All tournament arcs I've read were like this.Even those whose focus was the tournament.That's because not every person on the tournament can be strong or at least interesting. In Fairy Tail's case it has been excited on most of the time and it's getting better now,as we're having FT vs ST and getting close to the end,where we'll probably understand much of what's behind the curtains here. Williampetty said: Darklight0303 said: Ah found it. I was right! ST won only once. Wow so all the hype they had was in fact the misconception of the fandom. I find that amusing and can't help but think Mashima intended it that way. http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/84707_special-grand-magic-games-guide-book/page_9 Word of God has spoken on the matter so good luck debunking this bit. Sabretooth only winning the tournament once is never even said on that page. It's indirectly stated Sabretooth has been the top for the seven years Fairy Tail has been missing as Lamia Scale was always second in that time (without having Lyon/Jura participating of course) and that the five people who made Sabretooth big appeared seven years ago. Anyway, alright chapter. I can't wait for the other fights tho, specifically Gray's and Minerva (who I am still hoping Mirajane fights if she replaces Natsu being the reserve - assuming he's injured enough to be replaced). "Their victory last time spread their name far and wide throughut the continent and currently they are the #1 guild in Fiore!" If they had won it before,they would already be famous.But it says that their name spread only thanks to this last time victory.It isn't that clear,but it seems like they only won one last time. |
alcorswindAug 28, 2012 7:10 PM
| Quote sources for your implications then. cause right now we have way more for them only winning last year. Or you can just go on blindly overhyping them and get even more pissy when it turns out how utterly WEAK ST really is against FT. |
Darklight0303Aug 28, 2012 11:19 PM
| Or we could all just wait for more info. Sting and Rogue lost and this discussion is way past it's limit. There aren't any more data than what has been said already to prove one side or the other. Honestly we have exhausted every source. Chill this isn't the end of ST just from this loss. We will see more from them and we will learn more concerning their actual level. Don't waste your excitement with them cuz the dragons will arrive soon. THAT"S an event worth waiting for |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| ^ Yeah. Ater 306 replies,that's to be expected XD Goes to show how exciting Fairy Tail is right now. |
| I get this is a discussion for FT chapters, but I don't see how you guys can "argue", "debate", w/e you wanna call it with ppl who are so set in their own opinions they don't listen to logic and proof. I personally would not spend the time and energy on them. It is just not worth it IMO. I would like some clearance on how you guys do this, it doesn't make sense to me =.= |
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| For me it's just the desire to deny haters any justification that they like to craft from misinformation, denial of evidence and logic as well as their own blatant bias. It's a flaw of mine I will admit. |
xuezhi said: I get this is a discussion for FT chapters, but I don't see how you guys can "argue", "debate", w/e you wanna call it with ppl who are so set in their own opinions they don't listen to logic and proof. I personally would not spend the time and energy on them. It is just not worth it IMO. I would like some clearance on how you guys do this, it doesn't make sense to me =.= It always is worth it. Even if the "blind side" (whiever it is) doesn't accept what is given, witnessing constructive criticism is productive and advantageous. Even if one does not accept it within the actual discussion cuz of misplaced pride it still helps. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| I guess by debating about certain parts you don't agree with you brush up more on the material and improve upon your debating skills in the process. |
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