FakePriest said: Hmm yeah seems like ur right. I thought that happened in the actual legend of Cu Chulainn.... Nope, like I said, the legend of Cu Chulainn goes something like this: |
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| @FakePriest So only one golden spear hit him lol? so i suppose he took a spirit form and retreat? How could Goldenboya missed that? There is a mention about a family killed in their home at the beginning of Fate, it was ChuChu right? Indeed his story is quite something, its a foucking mess, well he did quite a mess of everything on his path. Though the Cu' from the legend and the Cu' in fate don't seem to coincide entirely, Lancer looks more sane and more self controlled~ Im just impressed, i didn't see his fame coming that even seems to outclass both Archers' one FakePriest said: lel based Ransa Said like this it got some points. But when they talk about Warp Spams they mean... like this? Or maybe him fighting hundred of soldiers like this? @Dug where are those spams in the anime? |
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Lap1 said: @FakePriest So only one golden spear hit him lol? so i suppose he took a spirit form and retreat? How could Goldenboya missed that? There is a mention about a family killed in their home at the beginning of Fate, it was ChuChu right? Indeed his story is quite something, its a foucking mess, well he did quite a mess of everything on his path. Though the Cu' from the legend and the Cu' in fate don't seem to coincide entirely, Lancer looks more sane and more self controlled~ Im just impressed, i didn't see his fame coming that even seems to outclass both Archers' one FakePriest said: lel based Ransa Said like this it got some points. But when they talk about Warp Spams they mean... like this? Or maybe him fighting hundred of soldiers like this? @Dug where are those spams in the anime? Sadly Warp Spasm doesn't show up in the anime, or the VN really, it's just a cool thing that occurs in Cu Chulainn's actual legend, that I wish was in the VN lore, cause it would be awesome, and would make him a great beserker. |
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FakePriest said: caster only killed a couple of people by accident. remember caster avoids killing people unless necissary. don't think the family is her doing she is far more likely to target men specifically it's more in her character to do so.There is a mention about a family killed in their home at the beginning of Fate, it was ChuChu right? You see, Lancer doesn't enjoy killing people he hates it. He killed Shirou cuz Shirou was a witness and Kirei ordered him to. He had no choice. I'm guessing if anyone did it it'd be Caster's familiars. Can't confirm I don't really remember this part. Though it's surely not Lancer. Lancer wouldn't go killing people in their homes for no reason. |
Maloghurst said: FakePriest said: caster only killed a couple of people by accident. remember caster avoids killing people unless necissary. don't think the family is her doing she is far more likely to target men specifically it's more in her character to do so.You see, Lancer doesn't enjoy killing people he hates it. He killed Shirou cuz Shirou was a witness and Kirei ordered him to. He had no choice. I'm guessing if anyone did it it'd be Caster's familiars. Can't confirm I don't really remember this part. Though it's surely not Lancer. Lancer wouldn't go killing people in their homes for no reason. I think the family killed in the beginning was Shinji being a dick and ordering Rider to do it......cause that's the kind of thing douchebag McStrongerthanservants would do. |
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FakePriest said: ep 1 it was brought up. dont think the prologue had a mention of it.I don't really remember anything of it aside from the dead person being a woman. So I can't really say anything. What episode was it? |
| I'm pretty sure it's Lancer from the guessing. Illya would never bothered, Caster and Souichirou waiting in the temple most of the time while draining people bit by bit, and Shinji isn't really the type to do unnecessary things unless provoked (but then again, Rider might do it for Sakura). Tough choice, though. It can be anyone, but all the hints are more directed to Lancer. |
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WrongPriest said: Wasn't Kirei just using him to gather mana for the coming fights like any master (magus?) would do? - Killing women and children - Fighting just to scout - Cowardly tactics This Is literally a shopping list of things Cu hates from the bottom of his heart. It makes sense that these are the things Kirei forces him to do. That sounds completely plausible, I'll accept that as headcannon for now until something proves it wrong. (Especially since Kirei wouldn't need the mana at all, hur dur evil) |
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WrongPriest said: Wasn't Kirei just using him to gather mana for the coming fights like any master (magus?) would do? - Killing women and children - Fighting just to scout - Cowardly tactics This Is literally a shopping list of things Cu hates from the bottom of his heart. It makes sense that these are the things Kirei forces him to do. Kirei would totally just make him do it for the lulz, even if he didn't need to. |
| I know it's unrelated in every way possible, but it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for me not to fanboy about this: And, possible even more exciting for me And just in case, to be on topic, yeah Kirei would totally make him do that, it would bring him joy. Argh: youtube bbcode being annoying, I'll just link |
Dug_FinJun 15, 2015 9:33 PM
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WrongPriest said: Why yes that is terribly unrelated. Hey I threw in a lightly relevant mention of the conversation going on to make it legit, cut me a break? |
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WrongPriest said: I mean sure but... The question thread? It just happened to be the thread I was in while browsing kotaku. Let's just treat it like a Big Lipped Alligator Moment and get back on topic. I think the who killed topic is pretty much settled, so let's see, a question related to fate. |
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WrongPriest said: Dug_Fin said: a question related to fate. I would go as far as to say that was his reason behind allowing the holy grail to be created in the first place. That does seem possible, that guy is the living embodiment of "A wizard did it" |
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| Guys, help me out here. Why is it exactly better to watch Fate/Stay Night UBW before Fate/Zero? |
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Dimitrije1606 said: Guys, help me out here. Why is it exactly better to watch Fate/Stay Night UBW before Fate/Zero? Better to read/watch all routes before F/Z because F/Z expects you to know things from FSN, and other reasons related to casual spoilers in the first 10 minutes. |
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| Zero is the superior anime so you're gonna want to save the best for last,you see |
| Yeah guys don't get me wrong, I am with you here. I finished F/SN VN few months back and then I saw F/Z and then F/SN UBW. But I am wondering here, would it be better to watch F/Z first and then F/SN UBW as continuation for newcomers? I am arguing but I can kinda see the point that guy is making. |
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DamnThatsTheSpot said: Zero is the superior anime so you're gonna want to save the best for last,you see And this. Dimitrije1606 said: Yeah guys don't get me wrong, I am with you here. I finished F/SN VN few months back and then I saw F/Z and then F/SN UBW. But I am wondering here, would it be better to watch F/Z first and then F/SN UBW as continuation? If a person isn't going to read the VN who cares anyway. Not worth waiting on subpar anime adaptations at this point. |
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Dimitrije1606 said: watching F/z first doesnt help you understand what is going on in UBW anyways. not only that UBW gives at least a bare minimum of what you need to know to understand it's own story. watching F/Z first more or less gives you retarded ideas and misplaced expectations. both series more or less covers their own asses but maintain the world they are in to a lesser extent either way their respective reading their respective source materials is really the only way to get the full picture anyways.Yeah guys don't get me wrong, I am with you here. I finished F/SN VN few months back and then I saw F/Z and then F/SN UBW. But I am wondering here, would it be better to watch F/Z first and then F/SN UBW as continuation for newcomers? I am arguing but I can kinda see the point that guy is making. if anything kara no kyoukai needs to be on that watch list because it explains shit that neither anime does |
| Could a working Grail get Aachaa out of his contract? |
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mira-nyan said: pretty sure it can't with the whole recorded outside of time and space thing.Could a working Grail get Aachaa out of his contract? |
Maloghurst said: mira-nyan said: pretty sure it can't with the whole recorded outside of time and space thing.Could a working Grail get Aachaa out of his contract? Can't it happen tho with the whole reaching the root thing and rewriting his existence or something? |
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Shrimperor said: i would imagine for that to work his existence would have to still be within reality which he isnt. and as inser just said too.Maloghurst said: pretty sure it can't with the whole recorded outside of time and space thing. Can't it happen tho with the whole reaching the root thing and rewriting his existence or something? |
| Question Time : 1. We all know that after death in Holy Grail war, a servant can be summoned again in the next war. I mean, if I am not mistaken, some of the dead servants in FZ appeared in FS. So, what happen when a servant died? Did they return to something or just waited to be called again? 2. Between the battle between Gilgamesh and Endiku, who do you think will win? I knew Endiku as I read the first chapters of Fate Strange/Fake manga. 3. Without spoilering anything, what can I expect from HF? I heard that it is the darkest of the three routes and it involves rape. Arigato gozaimasu, minna. |
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peeyaj said: They return to the throne of heroes, the servants are merely copies of their legends and will forget their memories of any previous wars, summonings, ect. Saber is an exception because of "spoilers in the Fate route"1. We all know that after death in Holy Grail war, a servant can be summoned again in the next war. I mean, if I am not mistaken, some of the dead servants in FZ appeared in FS. So, what happen when a servant died? Did they return to something or just waited to be called again? 2. Between the battle between Gilgamesh and Endiku, who do you think will win? I knew Endiku as I read the first chapters of Fate Strange/Fake manga. Not sure we have enough information, I at least don't. Enkidu is one of the few people Gil respects, that should tell you something though.3. Without spoilering anything, what can I expect from HF? I heard that it is the darkest of the three routes and it involves rape. It's dark and gory, I would say even more so than F/Z.A lot more people die in that route, and there are a lot of reveals. Some that were spoiled if you watched F/Z and a lot more information as to why the grail even exists. |
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peeyaj said: jesus dude....Question Time : 1. We all know that after death in Holy Grail war, a servant can be summoned again in the next war. I mean, if I am not mistaken, some of the dead servants in FZ appeared in FS. So, what happen when a servant died? Did they return to something or just waited to be called again? 2. Between the battle between Gilgamesh and Endiku, who do you think will win? I knew Endiku as I read the first chapters of Fate Strange/Fake manga. 3. Without spoilering anything, what can I expect from HF? I heard that it is the darkest of the three routes and it involves rape. Arigato gozaimasu, minna. - when a servant dies the mana used to create them is sent to the grail, the "data" from the spirit itself is sent back to the original heroic spirit in the throne of heroes were they can read the exploits like a book. as for the dead servants that were around for the 4th. it was only Saber. she was an exception. normally it's extremely rarte for the same servant to be summoned consecutively. -the only known thing so far is mutual kill or at least as far as i know. Enkidu can force gil to empty his vault and Gil can force enkidu to use up his clay. they both have a form of enuma elish attack too. -expect a LOT of slice of life HF is very slow. UBW is considered the "action route" and it's got some dark stuff happening. the author that route decided to flex his "horror writing" muscles. just like either of the other fate series HF will deliver you a rather different experience from F/Z and UBW. while FSN consists of the 3 routes to be a "whole" each follows a different theme or a different answer to the same theme. for HF expect a very slow first half. hell there is but then will pick up to high extremes and ups the ante beyond what you have seen in previous fates |
| 1.................What?No servant of FZ appears in FSN except Saber and Gil(who already was there because the Grail sort of gave him a body ) For Saber's case,she is an exception.She is not really a conventional Heroic Spirit.Without delving into spoilers,she waits for someone to summon her so that she can get her wish from the Grail and will continue waiting untill she gets her wish because just like Archer,she made a pact with Alaya about obtaining the Grail.There is more to it,if you are confused. 2.Well its said,even after Gil emptied the entirety of his weapons stored in GOB vault,he was still unable to kill Enkidu in his myth.So,its more of a tie imo.Though Gil has other hacks. 3.You have seen about Shirou's ideals and the way he comes around to that realization in UBW.HF Shirou is fundamentally different to UBW Shirou in terms of mentality.Yes they start off at the same point but their way of thinking becomes different as the route progresses.Also,you get more focus on the Grail mechanics.Some of the characters like Kirei,Rider,Sakura,Ilya who didn't get much development here will get their development there. |
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| Thanks. Regarding no. 1, I have seen meme years ago about Lancer being stabbed. I thought it was on FZ. So, I am mistaken. Probably it is from the highly ''regarded' ' Deen's Fate version. So, I will expect a much different assorted servants in FZ then. (And for years, I thought Archer appears in FZ). PS Question : Is the HF route really that looonnnng? I am planning to watch the playthrough in YouTube but seeing the Playlists with 20 videos with more than 2 hours each (about 50 hours worth) seems extremely daunting. Is there a shortcut viewing without playing the game? |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| Heaven's Feel is the longest route so yes..though the first half can be grating on the nerves. |
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peeyaj said: the lets play archive you can read it at your leasure even on your phone. you cna find lets plays around on youtube. but yes HF is longer than UBW. Thanks. Regarding no. 1, I have seen meme years ago about Lancer being stabbed. I thought it was on FZ. So, I am mistaken. Probably it is from the highly ''regarded' ' Deen's Fate version. So, I will expect a much different assorted servants in FZ then. (And for years, I thought Archer appears in FZ). PS Question : Is the HF route really that looonnnng? I am planning to watch the playthrough in YouTube but seeing the Playlists with 20 videos with more than 2 hours each (about 50 hours worth) seems extremely daunting. Is there a shortcut viewing without playing the game? |
Insertanamehere said: Probably not, remember Ahhh, I knew this was how it was, but darn sadness. ;_; Okay, real questions 1) Can Archer be kept as a familiar in the world like with 2) Do heroic spirits-turned-familiars age? 3) Did Gil's Grail-body age? |
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mira-nyan said: Insertanamehere said: Probably not, remember Ahhh, I knew this was how it was, but darn sadness. ;_; Okay, real questions 1) Can Archer be kept as a familiar in the world like with 2) Do heroic spirits-turned-familiars age? 3) Did Gil's Grail-body age? 1-yes he can, remember at the end of ubw though keep in mind this doesnt keep him from his duty seing how servants are only copies and not the original heroic spirit. 2 i think they last as long as they can sustain mana....a prana constuct is indeed a prana construct. maybe they age but not actually visibly show signs of it? 3 maybe? he does have a youth formula in his vault so it's kind of mute..... |
Maloghurst said: -expect a LOT of slice of life HF is very slow. laidellent said: Heaven's Feel is the longest route so yes..though the first half can be grating on the nerves. I'm currently rereading HF, and I have to say I feel like there was a lot more action in the first half than in UBW, or at least a more shit is going down. If anything the slow parts are the massive amounts of info dumping both Kirie and Zouken do. HF spoilers |
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