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| I just finished watching the original one, all 24 episodes plus episode 25 OVA plus movie. and I have seen episode 23 alternate, and episodes 1,2,and 3 of steins gate 0 I will say, my biggest difference, is how in original, I really liked how everything looked foggy and it just drew me in. Season 2 is just too colorful and looks very otaku-ish (i know, original is also otakuish but i was ok in season 1 with it). I just dont feel like in season 2 anything can wow me due to all the bright colors. Also, Steins original is a thriller with some drama sprinkled in it. But Steins Zero looks like it will be a drama with some Thriller sprinkled in it. Bottom line, Steins original, even with its slow start and otaku characters, was able to draw me in from the very beginning. Steins Zero has failed to draw me in. |
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ooo333 said: I will say, my biggest difference, is how in original, I really liked how everything looked foggy and it just drew me in. Season 2 is just too colorful and looks very otaku-ish (i know, original is also otakuish but i was ok in season 1 with it). I just dont feel like in season 2 anything can wow me due to all the bright colors. Bingo, this was also one of my beef about this midquel, the "atmosphere" of the OG Steins;Gate felt darker, in Steins;Gate 0 it felt just... different... and it was indeed too colorful for my taste as well, I believe the issue here was the change of directors, Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 are made by different directors and this changed the whole thing since the director is in charge of the camera angles, choreography, what should appear on screen, the details (like butterflies or cicadas the OG Steins;Gate had) etc... the director that made the OG Steins;Gate was more experienced in this sort of things and he made the "magic" happen, in Steins;Gate 0 a mediocre director ruined that magic. Not everything about Steins;Gate 0 is bad though but my experiences from it was pretty negative thanks to those changes and was ruined even more with super-powered characters, garbage animation in the action scenes, a story that dragged forever to get somewhere, boring main character, generic villains, etc... this midquel just didn't felt like Steins;Gate to me. |
| It is actually nor a sequel or a prequel. Watching it after finishing the series would just be bad, but if you try and watch it with a specific chronological order in mind, it works. The order is: 1. Steins;Gate: episode 1 to 22. 2. Steins;Gate: episode 23b 3. All episodes of Steins;Gate 0 4. Steins;Gate: episode 23, 24 and 25. When you watch it like this, Steins;Gate 0 would actually be pretty good. But if you watch it thinking that it's a sequel or watch it after you finished the original Steins;Gate, it would be pretty bad. |
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Monkey_Business said: It is actually nor a sequel or a prequel. Watching it after finishing the series would just be bad, but if you try and watch it with a specific chronological order in mind, it works. The order is: 1. Steins;Gate: episode 1 to 22. 2. Steins;Gate: episode 23b 3. All episodes of Steins;Gate 0 4. Steins;Gate: episode 23, 24 and 25. When you watch it like this, Steins;Gate 0 would actually be pretty good. But if you watch it thinking that it's a sequel or watch it after you finished the original Steins;Gate, it would be pretty bad. No, this is the worst watching order. Just kills the pacing of the original |
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Monkey_Business said: It is actually nor a sequel or a prequel. Watching it after finishing the series would just be bad, but if you try and watch it with a specific chronological order in mind, it works. The order is: 1. Steins;Gate: episode 1 to 22. 2. Steins;Gate: episode 23b 3. All episodes of Steins;Gate 0 4. Steins;Gate: episode 23, 24 and 25. When you watch it like this, Steins;Gate 0 would actually be pretty good. But if you watch it thinking that it's a sequel or watch it after you finished the original Steins;Gate, it would be pretty bad. No, that's the worst watching order you can provide people with, it kills the pacing and all the buildup the original tried to provide from episode 1. The best watching order is the airing order: Steins;Gate 01-24 > Steins;Gate Ova 25 > Steins;Gate Movie > Steins;Gate Ova 23beta > Steins;Gate 0. (The Movie is non-canon but it's still pretty enjoyable) Steins;Gate 0 is a separate anime and it needs to stand up on its own, ruining the good pacing of the original to make the midquel "good" is simply dumb, if you need the chronological order to make this mediocre midquel good then there's clearly something wrong with the midquel. |
Resus-2 said: Monkey_Business said: It is actually nor a sequel or a prequel. Watching it after finishing the series would just be bad, but if you try and watch it with a specific chronological order in mind, it works. The order is: 1. Steins;Gate: episode 1 to 22. 2. Steins;Gate: episode 23b 3. All episodes of Steins;Gate 0 4. Steins;Gate: episode 23, 24 and 25. When you watch it like this, Steins;Gate 0 would actually be pretty good. But if you watch it thinking that it's a sequel or watch it after you finished the original Steins;Gate, it would be pretty bad. No, that's the worst watching order you can provide people with, it kills the pacing and all the buildup the original tried to provide from episode 1. The best watching order is the airing order: Steins;Gate 01-24 > Steins;Gate Ova 25 > Steins;Gate Movie > Steins;Gate Ova 23beta > Steins;Gate 0. (The Movie is non-canon but it's still pretty enjoyable) Steins;Gate 0 is a separate anime and it needs to stand up on its own, ruining the good pacing of the original to make the midquel "good" is simply dumb, if you need the chronological order to make this mediocre midquel good then there's clearly something wrong with the midquel. sorry... my bad... I just searched up Steins;Gate watch order and this guy told me to watch it like this, guess it was wrong. |
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K3ych4in said: I think this board highlights how divisive this show is. I recently got into an argument with some random guy who got mad about a shitpost review I made on this show 2 years ago and decided to go to my profile I say that my opinion on this show is "wrong", even though that's what makes them opinions, the fact that they aren't right or wrong. I don't understand the mentality of, It's a highly rated anime therefore it must be good, and anyone who says it's bad must be wrong, not only do I find this kind of shallow, but also it disregards all other reasons why a show may be popular or not. I feel you will get much further mileage in assessing the quality of show based on watching it yourself and talking with people who do not like it and people who do, but the fact that this board exists kind of shows how this show struck a chord with people. I think some people were fine with this anime because it's a sequel to steins;gate, and that's a really popular anime, that is 2nd highest rated on MAL, some people will overlook these things, such as a kind of garbage antagonist, and Okabe being turned into something completely unrecognizable and will praise it being a show "Where the hero gives up". Others will be bored out of their minds watching as this show wastes so much time with the characters doing actually nothing, until what we get is a shallow villain, bland new characters and fanservice, things that these viewers did not watch the original steins;gate for, and pull their hair out as they see this. I think it's fairly clear which side of the camp I fall on, but in my experience things that are divisive like this, are often not divisive without reason. Thank you for listening to my pretentious ted talk. I agree 100%, that was a well articulated rant. Steins;Gate 0 has such a love/hate relationship with a lot of people, I happen to be the type that loved the OG Steins;Gate (my best anime!) but disliked Steins;Gate 0 with passion (it has around 4 or 5 really good episodes that I actually liked though). To me Steins;Gate 0 was nothing more than a mediocre anime with a couple of good episodes, a lot of things went wrong in this midquel IMHO. |
| Steins;Gate 0 was pretty good we got to see a alternate world. If you can't handle watching the man at his worse you don't deserve to see him at his best. |
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Solar_Ray said: The episode in which he accidently goes into the future is my favorite of the either season. That episode was actually kind of decent... until I saw samurais and cat girls saying "nyan" in a fucked up future, these characters trying to be Rambo badasses in the future is dumb IMHO and takes away the "realism" out of the anime for me, I'm Ok with Suzuha doing it to a degree because she was born into it but not the other characters. I totally hate the fact how Steins;Gate 0 tries to be an action/shounen anime, I thought the dumb action scenes (like the ones with Kagari) was finally over but nope, we get more action in the future with samurais dodging bullets at point blank and killing dozens of soldiers by himself... seriously, I really didn't sign up for this type of crap when I started watching this midquel, this midquel needed to leave the action shenannigans out of it because this anime clearly fails at it and that horrible animation in the action scenes was simply adding more salt to the injury for me. Anyways, that's not my only complaint about this midquel, my complaints are plenty, that was just a tiny part of it. |
Solar_Ray said: A good amount of the female characters actually worked in a maid cafe though. That's not what I meant, what I meant is that Faris is still doing the same "Nyan" thing in the future which is quite cringie, I don't mind her saying it in the present (I actually like it here) but not in a ruined future, this ruins the "realism" feeling for me, I rather have her act more mature instead, she's old after all but the characters didn't even change one bit, the only one that changed for the better was Daru, I actually liked his change in that ruined future but not the others. Solar_Ray said: You say Suzuha was born into it, but the other characters had to adapt too. They were trying to show how screwed up the world was, and how all of Okabe's closest friends were fighting for their lives on a daily basis. I actually find that to be relatively realistic. I'm glad that you found that realistic but I didn't in the slightest, having characters turning into samurais, dodging bullets in the middle of the warzone and killing soldiers with a sword while they are firing at you with machine guns or whatever is indeed "realistic" coming from an anime like Naruto but not from Steins;Gate, we didn't have any of that in the OG Steins;Gate apart from a flashback which only lasted a couple of seconds, this method was a LOT more realistic unlike Steins;Gate 0 which has super-powered characters doing shounen crap, exactly the type of crap that you see in shounen animes. To me the OG Steins;Gate was aimed towards a mature audience because it was dark and gloomy, however, to me Steins;Gate 0 was aimed toward kids with that shounen crap. Solar_Ray said: In addition, action essentially creates the entire series. Many of the plot points are about Okabe taking action or action being taken against him. In the first series Okabe is watching Mayuri die consistently. He's watching action be taken against him. He crumbles. He finally finds his way. I feel as if the series that come out more recently showed you exactly how he found his way. In the original it took less than a handful of episodes for Okabe to go from a mentally exhausted main character to a motivated successful main character. Is that in itself very realistic? I'm not talking about that type of action because an anime can have action that doesn't involve fighting, I'm talking about the ridiculous action scenes (aka: ridiculous fighting scenes) this anime had which was indeed quite ridiculous like Kagari having super-powers and moving at the speed of sound to dodge bullets from machine guns at point blank, decapitating the heads of 2 soldiers with a single swing with her bare hands, etc... this is the type of ridiculous action scenes I'm talking about which I mostly see in shounen animes, I never expected to see this type of crap in this franchise. |
Resus-2Nov 21, 2020 9:37 PM
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