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Nov 29, 2018 5:43 AM
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Skyguardian said:
Since when is DB a sports Manga?
In which universe is Naruto a historical Manga?
Dude do you even know how a discussion works? I give you a hint. It isn't what you are doing.

Dragonball? Fighting tournaments are a thing. Boxing? Judo? Karate? And all that jazz? When one of those are in the Olympics, wouldn't you call those sports? But okay, you don't like my Naruto example. How about something like Makai Tensho? It's historical, and it still features superhuman samurais and ninjas.


And no. It isn't realistic.

I didn't deny that. All I'm saying is that it has realistic portions as well as unrealistic portions. You're saying everything is unrealistic. I'm pointing out to you many realistic elements of the series.

A school tournament bringing tons of fans into a world cup stadium? TV coverage?

The number of fans are exaggerated, but you also realise it's an anime, and things like that are done on purpose to increase the drama. TV coverage? Sure. I even saw high school female soccer coverage on TV. It's not impossible.

In which universe do teams only have one goalkeeper at a tournament?

Middle school ones? They aren't professionals yet. Even a half in CT at this stage is only like 30 minutes, not 45. They do have substitutes, but considering the number of characters created for the series, you really expect the author to also go out of his way to detail every bench member of a team? Tsubasa has already so many named characters compared to other soccer series.

Second, wasn't Morisaki a substitute for Wakabayashi during the elementary school tournament? Keep in mind that they're still all at school. Maybe the requirement for this tournament is to only get 11 players for your team and if one's injured, it's your own problem. Not all schools put that much resources into their sports, so it's very possible for a lot of teams to not even acquire 11 members for a soccer team. Remember that a school also needs resources to dedicate to the other sports.

You can't do a sliding tackle at 0 velocity. Is it that hard to understand?

Who said the tackle was done at 0 velocity? If you mean Izawa's, he was clearly running so I don't know what you mean by 0 velocity.

Or even better. Hyuga shooting a ball through three feet at once and the ball actually gains speed? How is that supposed to work? Never minding the fact that he was working as a 11-12 year old and already looked like a grown man.

Yeah, it's not realistic, but if you read, I already conceded that the laws of physics aren't applied, but I wouldn't like them to, since Tsubasa relies on special techniques to keep things interesting. Hyuga doesn't look like a grown man, he looks like a grown teenager. I've seen those kind at my own school years back so again, this is not unrealistic. Where's the unrealism with him working at 11-12 years old? You should know that kids in many countries actually start early to help their parents in need. It's a very realistic scenario. You're just grasping at straws now.


It is pretty annoying to quote and write on the phone so I will (sadly as I must be some kind of masochist) come to the other nonsense you came up with later today.

What nonsense I came up with today? You're making unjustifiable claims. I only pressed you on it and you got annoyed first. That's what a discussion is about. If you don't want your ideas challenged, then don't post. I'm an open book.


You continue to bring up stuff I never said. Again with Inazuma Eleven which I still don't know.

What stuff I brought up that you never said? In fact, it was you who brought up stuff I never said, like how I supposedly said that I think soccer is boring. Never did.

I bring up Inazuma Eleven because it's relevant, and also because you made a claim that most sport series are realistic. Sure, that may be the case, but your point misses a bigger point, is that some of the most popular sports series are those that require you to suspend your disbelief. Realistic sports anime isn't the standard, just as much as realistic anime in general isn't the standard either.
EauDeBlaNov 29, 2018 5:57 AM
Nov 29, 2018 5:48 AM

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Yeah it is Nonsense to bring up Naruto and Dragonball in a discussion about sports.
The fact that you still don't get why that is completely stupid, made me realize one thing.
I don't want to talk to you anymore.
Have a nice day.
Nov 29, 2018 6:03 AM
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Skyguardian said:
Yeah it is Nonsense to bring up Naruto and Dragonball in a discussion about sports.
The fact that you still don't get why that is completely stupid, made me realize one thing.
I don't want to talk to you anymore.
Have a nice day.

Oh okay so you're just going to ignore all the points you can't argue back like a snowflake. Fine. I brought up Naruto and Dragonball to show you that anime doesn't necessarily have to be realistic, even when sports is concerned (like a martial art tournament).

Seriously, if you didn't make claims that can't be backed, then I wouldn't even have engaged you. If you just said, Tsubasa has too many unrealistic moments for me so it's not my thing, fine, but no, a lot of your claims about irrealistic moments are actually realistic as I just pointed out above! It's quite possible that you are the one living in an alternate reality where you don't think 12 years old can actually work for a living. Step outside of your bubble for a little bit.

And your constant refusal to address any of my points. It goes to show that none of your claims were any good anyway.
Nov 29, 2018 8:42 AM

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Another good episode.

ALso, I don't give demand if it is not realistic. Every match is so intense and keep me at the edge of my seat. It is best football anime. Period

I have seen some realistic football anime like Days and Knight of Area, but those were so boring (specially Days) and i was forced to drop it. Not just football, but most realistic sport anime I've seen has been has been so boring. I enjoy more unrealistic sport anime like Captain tsubasa and Kuroko no Basket, it more intense and entertaining.
Nov 29, 2018 12:32 PM

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Another amazing episode!

Takasugi scored, even though everyone thought he was kidding when he said he would score a goal like Soda, in the last episode. I didn't remember that part from the manga or the older versions of this anime, so it was a very good surprise!

About Captain Tsubasa being unrealistic or not, I don't really care. If I'm having fun watching the anime, everything is fine for me. But yeah, something very realistic would be like we're watching real soccer, but animated.
Dec 1, 2018 2:07 AM
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The drive shot missed by a margin!!!!!
Feb 14, 2019 9:47 PM

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Good to see the Kamisori techniques again after using them so much in videogames ! (Soda was often my choice as heavy hitter when the brutes like Tsubasa or Hyûga weren't able to run properly on the field anymore)

Every time the Drive Shoot is mentioned, I see the dramatic scene of Tsubasa breaking his leg on it . ^^" Glad they kept the diving bird imagery


4/5


Skyguardian said:

This is the first episode where literally nothing made any shred of sense.

You better prepare yourself for the (Shin/Neo) Tiger Shoot: it can dig a hole in a wall !?
Also, later on, the footballs might even come deflated from a shot (or mysteriously intact).

@thepath Nothing forces peoples to stop midway in a fiction... We just decide to not bother further.
Dec 30, 2020 3:00 PM

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when i saw that razor shot i asked myself - "in this world everyone can make their own shots??" really annoying -__-

and more annoying, after so much praises on tsubasa, you would except he will know how to deal with this kind of defense, but no...

it's funny that toho coach says he won't play when the opening literally specific that hyouga will play..
Oct 26, 2022 8:31 PM

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Soda is the worst kind of player. Let me injure a player in order to win. How shameless can you be?

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