Shingeki no Kyojin Chapter 49 Discussion

-MgZ_ said:
WTF!! I don't even know what to say... Epic chapter.

I don't think Erwin has the titan ability.. He existed even before the walls were breached and Reiner and co. sneaked in.

Poor Erwin, only one arm remaining. Oh well, he still has his great brain.

RIP Hannes next chap.

piperz said:
Tell me Bertolt isn't dead yet right? Will he be able to regenerate after getting slashed in the chest? poor guy

Eren is going rampage next chapter

LocalAfrican said:
I love how the military police are just getting destroyed. No more cracking jokes now that they've seen what the scouting recon goes through on their expeditions

zellami said:


About the last one ... Erwin said that if they lose Eren, then humanity will never be able to have a future, living on this earth.

No doubt, Eren is a crossing-point of a lot of possibilities for humans to survive this war b/w species, ... if they invest everything on him, ... but ...

... the moment I read it, I felt Erwin has more options. By no means I will be implying that Eren is in any sort of being unimportant for the plot. On the contrary, Erwin has the option to achieve some good goals without using him only as a bait.

So, thoughts on the above:

Erwin's real plan was to capture the human-titans ... that are not Eren (he secured him for the Scouting Legion). He has one in custody (Annie) behind the Walls, there are another three on the battlefield (Reiner, Bert, and Ymir). As much as the Mom-Eater titan is a bearer of trauma for the disabled Eren, the injured Mikasa, or the feeling-guilty Hannes, she is around the 15 m class titan, and we didn't see her showing deviancy. Well, she might be a deviant or something else, depending on the next chapter, but as I've seen her, she is still possible to kill and the troops are not heavy on losses yet.

The real danger remain the human-titans, who either will escape alone, or try reclaiming Eren - desperately, like Annie did. Reiner clearly threw a titan at Eren and Mikasa in order to stop them.

Now, Eren does not have the hardening ability the other human-titans have. Neither he, nor any other human can currently say how this ability works. The other human-titans, however, could.

The crystallization can fulfill an excellent short-range goal of filling the gaps in the Walls of Maria. But who'd do that. Additionally, I suspect, either there more conditions to use this kind of ability when a wall is involved, or it will cost Eren's actual life (similar to Annie's, or the other "Colossals"', who seem to be inside the Walls). Would Erwin risk that? Rather not.

The basement. Eren gives the key to a Scouting Legion squad, which will cover the 100 km distance to Shiganshina during the night.
It may be a coincidence or not, but the info in episode 21 on the horses, bred specifically for the SL missions, tempted me to speculate on this possibility. Also, the causalities the SL has been suffering for five years aredue to making routes and building infrastructure b/w Trost and Wall Maria. It would be great if those were not mentioned in vain. And while Trost cannot serve as a sortie for an army anymore, lowering horses for a squad from there (the shortest distance to Shiganshina) is not impossible. I believe, Armin and Hanji were discussing such a possibility around the Utgardt chapters.

At the basement - if they reach safely there, the only thing that Eren could do (in his current state) is to have a flashback or remember more of the stuff his father told him. (Oh, it may happen in the next chapter, since the Mom-Eater titan is a powerful trigger for more rage!)

Anyway, the more human-titans they have in control, the better, I guess.

Xinception said:
Isayama stated that he's got all the plot points mapped out, so at least we could get a bi-weekly 30-page release?

Chimasternmay said:
For me Armin's Intelligence keep coming off as arrogant... idk but I don't like what he said to get them agitated. Last that we saw she was crystallized, and I'm sure Armin lied, but if that ever happens fuck humans.

Also felt like the Scouting Legion was winning to easily. Those losses don't count because that's just normal, and because of that easy win vibe I got especially against Armored Titan was a bit happy Captain Irvin lost an arm.

Dam Connie let the 2 lovers be together dammit. At least if Historia does come back to Walls, Ymir should also if not no... but if separated I hope they reunite after some revelations and what not.

Mikasa seemed like she got grabbed hard by that Titan she was in pain at the end too. Then with Erin still with hands tied behind his back and mouth restrained, the sudden Mom Killing Titans appearance might give them some trouble. And so I feel like THIS TIME Hannes will actually face the titan? maybe or maybe not get killed but he will sure be sideline as soon as Erin's anger lets him loose of all the restrains to kill that mother fucking Mom Killing Titan.

Bigsbeh said:

If any of the titan shifters deserve torture, it's Annie. Reiner hates himself for what he has to do, and sometimes acts counter to that, Bertholdt hates what he has to do but has the resolve to go through with it, but Annie... she enjoys all the killing. She kills people she doesn't have to kill, and often makes it needlessly painful.

In fact, she's worse than the man-eating titans. At least they're just acting according to their nature; there's no malice with them. They do what they do because it's what they are, and humanity needs to kill them as a result. She's arguably the worst villain we've encountered so far.

MikasaxEren said:


I agree. Annie is a piece of work, the way she killed those members of the Scouting Legion, toying with some of them. That's what makes her so bad. If Annie was a male I can guarantee she would get much more hate, there is no true way she can redeem herself for what she has done in my eyes.

I hope Mikasa finally gets to kill Annie some time and I hope it is painful.

Armin and Irvin are certified badasses, along with Mikasa (Jean is getting close, but he is pretty beta sometimes). Eren needs to have a kickass moment soon, I am tired of him getting his ass kicked, it is about time he wins at something again.

Here's to hoping that Eren gets to go HAM next chapter, but somehow I feel as if Hannes is going to be the hero of next chapter.

Alpha_Norwegium said:
This sounds so stupid, but what if the titan that ate Eren's mom, and Mikasas foster mom is Grisha? IF it's an human controlled Titan, that is.

=Xinception]

I'm hoping that Eren partial transform. Like ya know:

*3DMG up near the titan*

*Partial transform a big-ass titan arm, with the command of punching the fuck out of the titan, sending him flying*

*Titan arm constructs, punches the fuck out of the titan*

Think about it. If he gets use to it, he could transform like this multiple times, and he could get used to dismantling himself out of the construct once it's over.

A more rogue like approach: more mobility + deadly critical strikes

silvicthdx said:


Looks like i was not the only one thinking about something like that. It would be good if Eren got used to it because it would cost less stamina, and it's more than necessary for most of the situations ( excpet fighting against titan shifters, of course). Also , Eren can get rid of the arm quickly, by using the steam ability that Berthold used to escape on the scene where Eren was fighting against the Colossal Titan.

I wonder what Eren's secret ability is. I mean, Annie has skin hardening, Reinner has the Armour, Berthold has the steam thing. What about Eren? I wonder if he will upgrade his form, or turn into a new one. I hope he gets something new. One thing that differ him from the other titan shifters is his strenght.He could send Annie flying on their fight, and he almost won against Armored Titan( DAMN YOU, BERTHOLD ) . Well, another month...

Bigsbeh said:
If any of the titan shifters deserve torture, it's Annie. Reiner hates himself for what he has to do, and sometimes acts counter to that, Bertholdt hates what he has to do but has the resolve to go through with it, but Annie... she enjoys all the killing. She kills people she doesn't have to kill, and often makes it needlessly painful.

In fact, she's worse than the man-eating titans. At least they're just acting according to their nature; there's no malice with them. They do what they do because it's what they are, and humanity needs to kill them as a result. She's arguably the worst villain we've encountered so far.

Jotaro_Kujo said:


Eh I'd say she's much more nuanced of a character than what you're saying. I thought she was a fantastic villain and the best that the manga's seen so far. She is both sadistic and remorseful. It's such a fascinating juxtaposition; crying over a corpse in Trost in one scene, and gleefully slaughtering soldiers in another.

Do you have to like her? Of course not; she's still ultimately a murderous bitch. But I've always been a sucker for layered and complex characters with a fair amount of depth behind them, so she's of my faves instead. It's the same thing for Ymir too; she's a rude and selfish cunt, but she's just so interesting and compelling.

That's not to say I don't like a straightforward, fairly one-note badass like Mikasa; I still have a soft spot for her. Shit I like all the females in this manga.

HalfMetalJacket said:



Not totally heartless at least. Probably would be in the same boat as Reiner and Bertholdt if she interacted as much as them.

Now I have something interesting tell you peeps about people who are forced into committing atrocities.

My teacher once interviewed a former Vietnam vet who was ordered into attacking 'enemy villages'. According to him, it was at first hard to kill an unarmed person, but once you killed one, it becomes very easy to kill more and enjoy yourself while your doing it. After all was said and done however, he regained his senses and realised the severity of his actions. My teacher says it was hard interviewing him because of how withdrawn he was.

I wasn't sure whether to pity or damn him. So I decided to instead damn the higher ups that even conceived the idea of making normal men do the bloody deed and leave them to suffer.

Overall, this is the vibe I'm feeling here with BRA, except worse in the fact that you're making kids commit unforgivable atrocities and letting them bear the scars.

MikasaxEren said:
Annie can't be forgiven for what she did, taking pleasure in killing people. Saying sorry and realizing the severity of your actions later doesn't make what you did any better.
A good example of killing when necessary is Eren killing the traffickers who were kidnapping Mikasa vs Annie slaughtering members of the Scouting Legion and smiling whilst she did it. She could have just crystallized her neck and ran through them, but she took joy in murdering them.

I hate Annie, Reiner and Bert for what they did. I only have to read the first few chapters to have that hate justified. What makes it worse is that they lived side by side with their "comrades" only to be the cause of their horrendous deaths by breaking the walls again.

Annie spared Armin, but she was more than willing to kill Jean. Annie deserves no pity, after training with her comrades for years she was well aware of what she was doing, she had 5 years to reflect on her actions and yet she still decided to murder hundreds of people.

Annie is a good character, because I hate her so much. It shows that she has an emotional impact.

(She also called Mikasa a beast, I'm not going to let that slide either)

MikasaxEren said:
Annie can't be forgiven for what she did, taking pleasure in killing people. Saying sorry and realizing the severity of your actions later doesn't make what you did any better.
A good example of killing when necessary is Eren killing the traffickers who were kidnapping Mikasa vs Annie slaughtering members of the Scouting Legion and smiling whilst she did it. She could have just crystallized her neck and ran through them, but she took joy in murdering them.

I hate Annie, Reiner and Bert for what they did. I only have to read the first few chapters to have that hate justified. What makes it worse is that they lived side by side with their "comrades" only to be the cause of their horrendous deaths by breaking the walls again.

Annie spared Armin, but she was more than willing to kill Jean. Annie deserves no pity, after training with her comrades for years she was well aware of what she was doing, she had 5 years to reflect on her actions and yet she still decided to murder hundreds of people.

Annie is a good character, because I hate her so much. It shows that she has an emotional impact.

(She also called Mikasa a beast, I'm not going to let that slide either)

Calumz said:


Mikasa is a beast and im sorta the same i Like the character but i hate her killing people for fun, before i knew she was a titan i preferd her over Mikasa

Reiner and Bert actually show Emotion and they dislike doing it

I Like Reiner,Bert,Jean alot xd they show some Likeability Annie doesnt

why ya hate Reiner and Jean so much xd compared to annie there saints

Jinkuro said:
Where do people get these ideas ?

Page 44 : Armin (riding a horse) with Hannes.
http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9011/11-049.0/compressed/v044.jpg

Page 45 : Titan appears
http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9011/11-049.0/compressed/v045.jpg

MikasaxEren said:

On the bottom right is that Mikasa thinking about how she was caught? the eyes look like Ymir's

Jinkuro said:


No, the author is explaining why she can't stand.

Lukriokya said:
Anyone else thinks that the titan that ate Eren's mom, is Armin? The fact that day when Eren's mom died, only Mikasa and Eren was there. Annie didn't kill Armin when she had the chance, plus... Armin and that titan has almost the same hair. And the fact that titan is still alive after 5 years. This could be another one of the author's biggest mind fuck.

klaymore said:
I think Irwin cut his own hand to free himself and rushed to save Eren

not sure why they fell for Armin's words tho, they should know Annie is crystalised and cannot be harmed

so now Mikasa is injured as well, there is no more human ace left and from now on should be titans fight...

klaymore said:
I think Irwin cut his own hand to free himself and rushed to save Eren

not sure why they fell for Armin's words tho, they should know Annie is crystalised and cannot be harmed

so now Mikasa is injured as well, there is no more human ace left and from now on should be titans fight...

Jotaro_Kujo said:
New Isayama sketches:

http://calorescence.tumblr.com/post/60670330353/if-no-sekai

Levi and Sasha cooking and Jean and Eren singing rofl. Also Mikasa and Annie going at each other in MMA gear. Glorious.

It's also got character birthdays.