Steins;Gate vs. MADOKA

Ghostalker said:
By the way I found Feiris Nyan Nyan, Kurisu, Mayuri, and Suzuha moe also.

DeathfireD said:
Wait wait Madoka Magica is an adult type magic girl anime. Steins;Gate is a mystery suspense type anime so of course Madoka is gonna do better in Japan. The audience for magic girl/comedy type shows is far higher, not to mention age ratings and times when each show is played play a huge factor. It's like comparing Sponge Bob to the Boondock Saints. Both are equally good but Sponge Bob is gonna win hands down due to it's large audience. It's a show that appeals to all ages and airs prime time.

Solkiskey said:
This thread will just start a flame war soon... close it please...

Letitbe said:
Anohana/Madoka imo atm best in 2011.

SG is very good, but remembering that until ep 12, the anime was pretty below average, I don't think it can earn the title "best anime". WE have to also see how it ends the anime, to see if it is satisfactory.

Letitbe said:
Anohana/Madoka imo atm best in 2011.

SG is very good, but remembering that until ep 12, the anime was pretty below average, I don't think it can earn the title "best anime". WE have to also see how it ends the anime, to see if it is satisfactory.

Wilio said:


AnoHana was better than Madoka.

waterflame said:
Really? The choice has been already made, THE CHOICE OF STEINS GATE!! lol
No, seriously. I have my own reasons to prefer Steins;Gate, a bit too personal for posting them here. But anyway...Plot-wise: Steins>*random shit*>Madoka. Not to mention it came out in 2009(the game) and Madoka is from this year, just in case anyone wants to claim stealing ideas from Puella Magi(and when I see them, I shall proceed killing them with a spoon). The characters have more depth too. The only changes in the personality of Puella's characters are Kyubey(of course:from "ZOMFGBBQ IT IS... KAWAII" to "GIMME A SHOVEL), Sayaka(influenced by her powers as a mahou shojo, not much) and Homura, being kinda the center of the story(not counting Madoka) - it had to come, otherwise there's really no plot and meaning to the series, so it's a bit obvious(there had to be a twist).
I like the music in Steins;Gate better too. The ending is AMAZING(totally loved it from the second I saw it), the opening is cool too, and the songs from the game(+the new ending/ep23/ - WHOA) are great too. Whereas Madoka's opening... mehhhh, nothing special, nothing catchy... The ending song is cool but it's weird in a way, you know... you can relate it only to the anime. There were other songs, which I, for obvious reasons, don't remember. So yeah, Okarin beats Madoka in music too.
The art: I can't deny that I fell inlove with Madoka's art. The details and the backgrounds, everything was top-notch. There were times I just paused the video and stared xD But it probably had bigger budget than Stein, so... And yes, I agree too that there IS something like that in Steins;Gate - it's still, it's calm. But it's because it doesn't need awesome action scenes and cliche chases&explosions to fuck with your mind.
Which brings me to the conclusion, that Steins;Gate has a better story to tell than Madoka - it can shock you within 5 seconds, it can make you laugh hysterically, it can make you cry like a baby(which I find myself guilty of... for the past 3 or 4 episodes+Mayushii's death), it can put you on the edge of your seat, breathing slowly and quietly in suspense, and all of that in just one episode, flawlessly keeping you interested and making you invest time and thoughts in the story. None of that have I seen in Madoka.
Puella had a typical twist, a bit like Higurashi, all moe girls having fun shit and then becomes more gloomy and dark. It's a plus that it has an influence on you(talking about episodes ~7-10): it's depressing and sad and all that stuff. But come on, really!? All the pain Okabe went through to save Mayuri, only to let go of his only loved one - one of the most depressing and sad things I've ever watched.
So, in conclusion, I don't give two flyin f*cks about how many awards and sales Madoka has. For me it's just another cheesy story about a girl who of course is gonna save the world from suffering and bad guys. The anime might be mega-popular but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the best one out there. It's like saying "Avatar" is the best movie ever, when you have movies like "The Lake House"(or if science will it be, "The Matrix").
So yeah, that's my opinion. Steins;Gate>every other anime>Madoka.
EL PSY CONGROO.


Edit: DEAR GODDNESS, this post is WAY too long even for me to read! xDD

TrueUchiha said:
+1 ;)

Webeiss said:
Yeah Madoka's not even top 5. That's not to say it was terrible or anything but it's not the greatest thing ever.

ringoo4 said:
That logics indicates that Gintama is the best animation ever made.

ringoo4 said:
That logics indicates that Gintama is the best animation ever made.

waterflame said:

Not a single fuck is given about your opinion. This poll is for people's thoughts on the animes, you only need to say which one you think is better, it's not about making the others be like you and making them like what you like.


So yes, basically, your opinion is shit for me too. Have a nice life. =)

waterflame said:

Not a single fuck is given about your opinion. This poll is for people's thoughts on the animes, you only need to say which one you think is better, it's not about making the others be like you and making them like what you like.
So yes, basically, your opinion is shit for me too. Have a nice life. =)

A-channeler said:
やっぱり外国人は見る目ねえな

huyyy said:


aliens eye?

Mormegil said:
Steins;Gate=Ano Hana > Madoka

Hongo-Takeshi said:
have any of these decon anyting like say EVa did no
have either of the made a new genre no like Gundam did no
are either of these and Epic are LoGH no

but if i was to vote at face value id say Madoka is better

ringoo4 said:
lol did I ever cared about anyone's opinion here? You are missing my point anyway. I never disagreed anything. I'm keep saying people's reasoning is shit.

For this entire thread, I never said anything such as 'Steins;Gate > Madoka' or 'Madoka > Steins;Gate'. Well, yes I once said 'Steins;Gate has superior plot over Madoka' but that's IT. People are all shit since they are giving such a shit reasons to base their opinion. If they said 'I like it because it was more enjoyable and my taste' or even 'I like Madoka/Steins;Gate better since other one is shit'. All fine. No flaming there. Something like 'I dislike Madoka since it had more moe than Steins;Gate', or 'Madoka isn't the greatest thing ever since it isn't on the top 5 of MAL list', 'Madoka is similar to Higurashi because it kills moe', 'Madoka has typical twist', 'Steins;Gate is better since it was awesome without action scenes' and so on. Those are the ones that I'm interest in and attack.

Thus, fuck off. This thread is sooooooooo stupid anyway. Thus, I can do whatever I want.

Solkiskey said:


Obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't be calling their 'reasoning (lolwat, reasoning behind an opinion? Get real.) shit.
Also, what are you doing in this thread if you won't even vote for one of them? Or both, if you like. You're completely offtopic.
Shit reason behind their opinion? It's their opinion for god's sake. What, you're going to tell me that my opinion is shit because
I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has less moe? You can answer yes or no, but in the end, It'll just make you look
like an idiot.

The rest is just stupidity. Well, except the top 5 MAL list thing, that's just not true.
Other than that, it's all opinion, and I don't see why it's shit reasoning.

I prefer shows that are not driven by their action scenes, so I thought it was better than Madoka since it was more revelant to my tastes
BECAUSE it's not driven by action.
Deduction 101 anyone?

AidanAK47 said:
Break down steins gate's story and science you find a hell of a lot of plot holes. If CERN has access to time machines and two operatives working close to him then why the hell didn't they interfere at all? Nope all they did was burst in obviously and kill Mayuri. In fact why not recruit Kurisu before she met Okabe? How can anyone know about Beta worldlines and why is there even such a thing as a beta worldline? Doesn't make any real sense. Not unless Okabe has been sliding instead of time travailing.
Characterisation isn't the best either. In case you didn't notice but in the latest episode we just seen Kurisu's Dad who happened to be the....most.... stereotypical....evil bastard in recent anime history. And I can say that besides Okabe and Kurisu, no one had a personality that I deem memorable. Plot wise it was fairly predictable. There was nothing that I didn't previously suspect that happened. So no shock value or emotion moments for me.

AidanAK47 said:
AND WHAT IS THIS BULLCRAP I HEAR ABOUT Naotaka Hayashi BEATING GEN?! Hell did everyone just forget that this is the same guy who wrote Chaos head?! The biggest pile of wasted potential since Index! Mate, read Gen before making statements like that. Because Hayashi doesn't even come close to Gen.

AidanAK47 said:
why the hell didn't they interfere at all?

AidanAK47 said:
Nope all they did was burst in obviously and kill Mayuri.

AidanAK47 said:
In fact why not recruit Kurisu before she met Okabe?

AidanAK47 said:
How can anyone know about Beta worldlines and why is there even such a thing as a beta worldline?

AidanAK47 said:
In case you didn't notice but in the latest episode we just seen Kurisu's Dad who happened to be the....most.... stereotypical....evil bastard in recent anime history.

totoum said:
As much as I love Madoka,if we're talking storyline then I'd go with Steins:gate but overall even if it's shaft being shaft and Kajiura being Kajiura I just love the graphics and music in Madoka much more than in steins:gate so if I had to chose one it'd be Madoka

But guess what?I don't have to choose one,I can enjoy both and that's what I plan on doing.

IllegalCyrus said:
Madoka is a greatshow.
So is Steins;Gate. This poll needs a fucking both button.

totoum said:


Here's what this thread needs (and it's official art too,there was some sort of collab done between both productions)

MorningGlory said:
Rofl. This is a funny picture. Are you sure this is an official art and not just some fan art? = ="

Solkiskey said:
Obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't be calling their 'reasoning (lolwat, reasoning behind an opinion? Get real.) shit.
Also, what are you doing in this thread if you won't even vote for one of them? Or both, if you like. You're completely offtopic.
Shit reason behind their opinion? It's their opinion for god's sake. What, you're going to tell me that my opinion is shit because
I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has less moe? You can answer yes or no, but in the end, It'll just make you look
like an idiot.

The rest is just stupidity. Well, except the top 5 MAL list thing, that's just not true.
Other than that, it's all opinion, and I don't see why it's shit reasoning.

I prefer shows that are not driven by their action scenes, so I thought it was better than Madoka since it was more revelant to my tastes
BECAUSE it's not driven by action.
Deduction 101 anyone?

AidanAK47 said:
Sigh...
Madoka is not the best anime ever. Like others I thought the characterisation wasn't great and the ending was poor. But nether was Steins gate. The amount of praise I see here is sickening. Guys, I admit that it is good but it's not that good.

Break down steins gate's story and science you find a hell of a lot of plot holes. If CERN has access to time machines and two operatives working close to him then why the hell didn't they interfere at all? Nope all they did was burst in obviously and kill Mayuri. In fact why not recruit Kurisu before she met Okabe? How can anyone know about Beta worldlines and why is there even such a thing as a beta worldline? Doesn't make any real sense. Not unless Okabe has been sliding instead of time travailing.
Characterisation isn't the best either. In case you didn't notice but in the latest episode we just seen Kurisu's Dad who happened to be the....most.... stereotypical....evil bastard in recent anime history. And I can say that besides Okabe and Kurisu, no one had a personality that I deem memorable. Plot wise it was fairly predictable. There was nothing that I didn't previously suspect that happened. So no shock value or emotion moments for me.

AND WHAT IS THIS BULLCRAP I HEAR ABOUT Naotaka Hayashi BEATING GEN?! Hell did everyone just forget that this is the same guy who wrote Chaos head?! The biggest pile of wasted potential since Index! Mate, read Gen before making statements like that. Because Hayashi doesn't even come close to Gen.

Jack_Rav said:
^ Calm down, bro.

darkro90 said:
This.

Madoka is nothing compared to those two anime

AidanAK47 said:
AND WHAT IS THIS BULLCRAP I HEAR ABOUT Naotaka Hayashi BEATING GEN?! Hell did everyone just forget that this is the same guy who wrote Chaos head?! The biggest pile of wasted potential since Index! Mate, read Gen before making statements like that. Because Hayashi doesn't even come close to Gen.

Oosran said:
What has Gen written anyway, except Madoka? Fate/Zero and Saya no Uta, and those are the only (good) ones that I'm aware of.
Hayashi is probably most notable for having written ChäoS;HEAd and Steins;Gate, and I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
So they've both got two good stories each, and they both probably have a couple bogus shit as well.
Wat, am I being relatively neutral here?

ringoo4 said:
The work that first made Urobuchi famous was none other than Phantom of Inferno and KIKOKUGAI. Those are called one of the VN masterpieces, still now, and what made Nitro+'s identity until now, hardboiled-dark-gloomy, yet trendy series.

Oosran said:
Oh, right, completely forgot about those two. Haven't had the time to play through 'em yet either. ( ¬‿¬)
So, okay, we've got a 1:2 ratio between Urobuchi and Hayashi, I guess. ┐(￣ー￣)┌

ringoo4 said:

Mother fuckin opinion? How the fuck you call something like that even an opinion? You can still have 'good' opinions, and 'bad' opinions. "I prefer Nodame Cantabile over K-On because it has less moe" - that's clearly, SO.. CLEARLY shit reasoning for any sort of claim. Well since you hate me saying reason, I will say, 'shit opinion'. Thought of target audiences? Difference in genre? Difference in adaptation? Difference in animation quality and all those matters? That is shit. Let's see what Aidan said, right above you. At the end, there is someone who actually seems to know how to actually 'judge' animation with proper basis, reasonings that is generally understandable. Instead of 'comparing' with 'shit basis', he is talking about 'work'. That's the sensible way of actual criticism. God sake.

Edited: Let's say, for example, this quote 'Puella had a typical twist, a bit like Higurashi, all moe girls having fun shit and then becomes more gloomy and dark." Seriously. How the hell Madoka is even remotely similar to Higurashi? Because it killed moe? Because it has dark gloomy mood? Because it has time loop? Then why doesn't he call Steins;Gate also similar to Higurashi? It kills moe, it has dark mood, and it even have time loop! He definitely used this logics to say 'Madoka is inferior to Steins;Gate'. We all know it is 'shit'. Thus, it is basically suicide for him saying that, since this part of his 'reasoning' lowers his standard. So, I attack. Simple?

You said off topic? I'm off topic because 'this thread shouldn't even exist'! It is shit thread, and shit posts are being made with needless but shit reasoning for comparisons. Why should I not join this awesome flame bait?