Attack on Titan
SHUBHAM019 said: Let me try for the final time to explain to you @ren0080 The first image I showed to you about Armin being blown away and ' Is Being Blown Away ' so he is going to fall even further from the colassal titan than he is now . So it is not even possible for Armin to reach that place let alone being placed in such a proper manner. Now, @swordperson asked how will Eren catch let me explain you how . Armin is getting blown from the steam . The strength of push of steam would reduce as the increase in distance. This will result in Armin falling a bit diagonally . Slowly Altitude being decreased with increased distance while the time he would have been caught by Eren his horizontal speed would have reduced drastically and vertical speed wouldn't be much either so it is easily possible . This is my final try maybe I would have explained to you if we were talking face to face. Yeah no, as you said the steam would reduce not disappear. This would still make ODM gear risky. Now lets say Eren for some reason decides to go back and catch Armin. What is he attaching to to catch Armin? It's not Bertolt. If he uses a house then he'd get hit with Armin flying at terminal velocity and Eren sure looks fine when he kills Bert. This entire thing hinges on Eren doing this absurdly fast and there are just so many factors that make it not possible. Why argue for something that is not even close to hinted at. |
Kaasfondue said: my bad...for background, i wanted to say offscreened.btw whats ur explanation.SHUBHAM019 said: But there isn't single bit in the manga nor anime that tries to convey Eren catched him out of the sky. How would he even be able to do that? Doesn't make sense. Your only point is that there was "time" for him to do it. Your other points... Eren wasn't surprised at Armin sacrificing himself was the implication, and just because we didn't see him search for the body doesn't mean we're supposed to think he already knew "because he actually saved him".bro I have provided all all the necessary information how Eren could do both and this does not in any sense reduce the heroic work done by Armin because his heroic act was stalling for time not falling on rooftop . Biruadotx said: eren saving armin was in background to emphasize more on armin's heroic work ...btw it doesn't reduces armin heroic work in any way he still sacrificed himself and eren catching him would not saved armin,his death was inevitable (badly burnt) but was saved only bcuz of syringe. Where in the background? Don't see it anywhere. What you guys are saying is that if Eren didn't catch him he would've died immediately and not be able to be revived. Instead of just Armin doing his part of the plan and Eren doing his, and then Eren finding out Armin gave his life (he didn't known he was still alive at first). |
SHUBHAM019 said: Let me try for the final time to explain to you @ren0080 The first image I showed to you about Armin being blown away and ' Is Being Blown Away ' so he is going to fall even further from the colassal titan than he is now . So it is not even possible for Armin to reach that place let alone being placed in such a proper manner. Now, @swordperson asked how will Eren catch let me explain you how . Armin is getting blown from the steam . The strength of push of steam would reduce as the increase in distance. This will result in Armin falling a bit diagonally . Slowly Altitude being decreased with increased distance while the time he would have been caught by Eren his horizontal speed would have reduced drastically and vertical speed wouldn't be much either so it is easily possible . This is my final try maybe I would have explained to you if we were talking face to face. Again, it is not just possible. First of all, Berotu would certainly notice that since he was looking at Armin all that time. AND even if Eren would catch Armin despite that, there's still the steam and that shit is hot af and Eren did not had any burn marks in his body. Just face it, it's just your headcanon that Eren saved Armin. In the anime and manga, there's no indication of that. So just stop. You're looking like a Dragon Ball and One Piece headcanon fan boy who kept saying that their headcanon is the real canon even though it's contradicts everything that happened in the series. |
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SHUBHAM019 said: swordperson said: he is attaching to walls and no Armin would not be flying at terminal velocity why do you think that . The reduction in push due to steam would be so drastic that it would feel like it's not even there near the wall .Yeah no, as you said the steam would reduce not disappear. This would still make ODM gear risky. Now lets say Eren for some reason decides to go back and catch Armin. What is he attaching to to catch Armin? It's not Bertolt. If he uses a house then he'd get hit with Armin flying at terminal velocity and Eren sure looks fine when he kills Bert. This entire thing hinges on Eren doing this absurdly fast and there are just so many factors that make it not possible. Why argue for something that is not even close to hinted at. Ho.. How? There are these things called physics. Armin is falling down he going faster and faster the steam would make him go faster not slower lol. Again if we for some reason accept this silly train of thought by your logic Armin would have to be close to the wall when he was caught and clearly away from the steam as Eren catches him using ODM gear. Why would Bert not see him? |
SHUBHAM019 said: swordperson said: Due to steam which gets cleared when Bertholdt sees Eren's hardened body . Also I told that horizontal velocity wouldn't be much not vertical velocity . Read againHo.. How? There are these things called physics. Armin is falling down he going faster and faster the steam would make him go faster not slower lol. Again if we for some reason accept this silly train of thought by your logic Armin would have to be close to the wall when he was caught and clearly away from the steam as Eren catches him using ODM gear. Why would Bert not see him? At least respond to what I write. If the steam is still strong enough to obscure right next to the wall and a good distance up according to your logic Eren shouldn't be able to use ODM gear. Yeah and that doesn't matter lol. Those forces add to each other not subtract. I cannot fathom how you somehow think that steam blowing outward in the same direction he's falling makes him move slower. |
swordpersonFeb 9, 2021 9:11 AM
ren0080 said: bro how can he see him all the time...he can't see through smoke right. Just after smoke cleared he located armin on right side, and hardend titan straight...also eren is shifter he can heal and resist high heat.SHUBHAM019 said: Let me try for the final time to explain to you @ren0080 The first image I showed to you about Armin being blown away and ' Is Being Blown Away ' so he is going to fall even further from the colassal titan than he is now . So it is not even possible for Armin to reach that place let alone being placed in such a proper manner. Now, @swordperson asked how will Eren catch let me explain you how . Armin is getting blown from the steam . The strength of push of steam would reduce as the increase in distance. This will result in Armin falling a bit diagonally . Slowly Altitude being decreased with increased distance while the time he would have been caught by Eren his horizontal speed would have reduced drastically and vertical speed wouldn't be much either so it is easily possible . This is my final try maybe I would have explained to you if we were talking face to face. Again, it is not just possible. First of all, Berotu would certainly notice that since he was looking at Armin all that time. AND even if Eren would catch Armin despite that, there's still the steam and that shit is hot af and Eren did not had any burn marks in his body. Just face it, it's just your headcanon that Eren saved Armin. In the anime and manga, there's no indication of that. So just stop. You're looking like a Dragon Ball and One Piece headcanon fan boy who kept saying that their headcanon is the real canon even though it's contradicts everything that happened in the series. |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: Bertholdt cannot notice due to steam . It got clear at the time when Bertholdt saw hardened body of Eren .Again, it is not just possible. First of all, Berotu would certainly notice that since he was looking at Armin all that time. AND even if Eren would catch Armin despite that, there's still the steam and that shit is hot af and Eren did not had any burn marks in his body. Just face it, it's just your headcanon that Eren saved Armin. In the anime and manga, there's no indication of that. So just stop. You're looking like a Dragon Ball and One Piece headcanon fan boy who kept saying that their headcanon is the real canon even though it's contradicts everything that happened in the series. The only thing I could agree on is Armin being hot but still its not like he would have been untouchable . His temperature would have been around 60-70 ° C wdym Berotu can't notice? where's the indication of that? Again, that's just your headcanon. Look at the episode again. Boruet was looking at Armin right after the Reiner scene even with the steam still there which means he will see any movements just by looking at the steam. Including any ODM gear movements as well as any movement coming from Eren saving Armin and going to the rooftop near Boerute |
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Biruadotx said: ren0080 said: bro how can he see him all the time...he can't see through smoke right. Just after smoke cleared he located armin on right side, and hardend titan straight...also eren is shifter he can heal and resist high heat.Again, it is not just possible. First of all, Berotu would certainly notice that since he was looking at Armin all that time. AND even if Eren would catch Armin despite that, there's still the steam and that shit is hot af and Eren did not had any burn marks in his body. Just face it, it's just your headcanon that Eren saved Armin. In the anime and manga, there's no indication of that. So just stop. You're looking like a Dragon Ball and One Piece headcanon fan boy who kept saying that their headcanon is the real canon even though it's contradicts everything that happened in the series. yeah he can't see through smoke... but he could see any movement from the said smoke easily |
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ren0080 said: it's your head Cannon that Bertholdt was looking at Armin but he was not . Can you tell me where is Armin in this SHUBHAM019 said: Bertholdt cannot notice due to steam . It got clear at the time when Bertholdt saw hardened body of Eren . The only thing I could agree on is Armin being hot but still its not like he would have been untouchable . His temperature would have been around 60-70 ° C wdym Berotu can't notice? where's the indication of that? Again, that's just your headcanon. Look at the episode again. Boruet was looking at Armin right after the Reiner scene even with the steam still there which means he will see any movements just by looking at the steam. Including any ODM gear movements as well as any movement coming from Eren saving Armin and going to the rooftop near Boerute  |
SHUBHAM019 said: not to mention this scene was just before Eren taking down Bertholdt . Steam would have been even more thicker when Armin was blown away . ren0080 said: it's your head Cannon that Bertholdt was looking at Armin but he was not . Can you tell me where is Armin in this wdym Berotu can't notice? where's the indication of that? Again, that's just your headcanon. Look at the episode again. Boruet was looking at Armin right after the Reiner scene even with the steam still there which means he will see any movements just by looking at the steam. Including any ODM gear movements as well as any movement coming from Eren saving Armin and going to the rooftop near Boerute And please don't quote me after this I request . |
SHUBHAM019 said: SHUBHAM019 said: not to mention this scene was just before Eren taking down Bertholdt . Steam would have been even more thicker when Armin was blown away . it's your head Cannon that Bertholdt was looking at Armin but he was not . Can you tell me where is Armin in this And please don't quote me after this I request . Respect to you dude , my man has been fighting for 8 hours straight. Goodnight. |
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SHUBHAM019 said: SHUBHAM019 said: not to mention this scene was just before Eren taking down Bertholdt . Steam would have been even more thicker when Armin was blown away . it's your head Cannon that Bertholdt was looking at Armin but he was not . Can you tell me where is Armin in this And please don't quote me after this I request . Look at the direction of Berotiuroityu head.  Also, you can't just 'request' to not quote you when it's you who created this discussion in the first place. that just makes you irresponsible for abandoning because you're proven incorrect. |
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ren0080 said: now I think i have to do overtime let's face it then . I have started this thread and I will finish it . Can you see Armin there or by any chance do you think is it possible for him to see Armin from there .SHUBHAM019 said: not to mention this scene was just before Eren taking down Bertholdt . Steam would have been even more thicker when Armin was blown away . And please don't quote me after this I request . Look at the direction of Berotiuroityu head. Also, you can't just 'request' to not quote you when it's you who created this discussion in the first place. that just makes you irresponsible for abandoning because you're proven incorrect. |
SHUBHAM019 said: Do you agree with my explanation about how it is not possible for Armin to fall at the rooftop Simple. No. There's no indication for that and the manga specify that Armin fell in the rooftop. |
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ren0080 said: SHUBHAM019 said: Do you agree with my explanation about how it is not possible for Armin to fall at the rooftop Simple. No. There's no indication for that and the manga specify that Armin fell in the rooftop. ren0080 said: SHUBHAM019 said: Do you agree with my explanation about how it is not possible for Armin to fall at the rooftop Simple. No. There's no indication for that and the manga specify that Armin fell in the rooftop.  check this picture |
| I honestly didn't care much about it being supposedly plot armor, though it's kinda nice to know now that Eren supposedly did contribute to saving him at that point. I knew Armin wasn't a character the author wouldn't at very least kill off that easily at that point in the story. |
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SHUBHAM019 said: If you still consider falling of Armin at rooftop to be right than I am heading out because our talk would be point less . Now the thing about how Eren would have caught Armin . You didn't prove anything. The anime didn't show anything you said and the manga just plainly proved you wrong. Gosh talking to you feels like talking to a child. It's better to just kick your face rather than endlessly explaining things that your headcanon isn't canon. |
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Check this thing as well I will give proof of this in next reply  |
| Proof See direction of Eye in img 2 and 3 . If Bertholdt was actually looking at Armin the thing should have been reverse. |
SHUBHAM019 said: what the hell now image is not showingProof See direction of Eye in img 2 and 3 . If Bertholdt was actually looking at Armin the thing should have been reverse. |
Img 1 Bertholdt looking at right according to you .  |
Img 2 Bertholdt looking towards wall . Note he is looking at same altitude . |
Img 3 Bertholdt looking at Eren's hardened body |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: you are making baseless assumptions now your every point will be destroyed.You didn't prove anything. The anime didn't show anything you said and the manga just plainly proved you wrong. Gosh talking to you feels like talking to a child. It's better to just kick your face rather than endlessly explaining things that your headcanon isn't canon. That's not how lines of eyesight works. His head is slightly tilted downwards so no way he looking at that direction. |
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SHUBHAM019 said: Now after this three Images it is clear that place where Bertholdt was looking is clearly above Eren as his eyes moved Downwards to see Eren . But if Bertholdt was looking at Armin at the rooftop he would have to look a bit upwards for eren which is not the case here . Now that your point about Bertholdt not seeing has been debunked what more do you have to say. I will destroy all your points don't worry wdym 'not seeing' where tf did I said that? I originally said that Berrueir will see any movement from the steam. You're the one who says that Beriouweriotur can't see because of the steam Like bruh, at this point you're just a troll. Stop it. Get some help. |
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SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: are you stupid or what. Oh God please somebody teach him about this . This in no condition I will accept to be wrong . Go and ask your teacher about this.That's not how lines of eyesight works. His head is slightly tilted downwards so no way he looking at that direction. I can't why is AoT fans this stupid? This is some DBZ level of stupidity. You don't even know what kind of direction is "downward". Go on, just believe your own headcanon. Just don't go spreading those shits since it'll be considered as misinformation. |
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ren0080 said: if you don't understand after this only God can explain you .SHUBHAM019 said: you are making baseless assumptions now your every point will be destroyed. That's not how lines of eyesight works. His head is slightly tilted downwards so no way he looking at that direction.  |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: if you don't understand after this only God can explain you .That's not how lines of eyesight works. His head is slightly tilted downwards so no way he looking at that direction. again, that's not how that works. God, you're fucking stupid. His head is fucking tilted to the right downwards. d o w n w a r d s Search human anatomy and how line sight works before you talk shit. |
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ren0080 said: oh god this guy is just stupid now I want to kick your face. I think you are a fool . Common sense is needed in this not science .again, that's not how that works. God, you're fucking stupid. His head is fucking tilted to the right downwards. d o w n w a r d s Search human anatomy and how line sight works before you talk shit. |
SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: there was typing mistake here I meant to say that your point about seeing Armin has been debunkedwdym 'not seeing' where tf did I said that? I originally said that Berrueir will see any movement from the steam. You're the one who says that Beriouweriotur can't see because of the steam Like bruh, at this point you're just a troll. Stop it. Get some help. Again, Bqiwertyeqiwotugh can see Armin just as indicated here  |
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SHUBHAM019 said: ren0080 said: oh god this guy is just stupid now I want to kick your face. I think you are a fool . Common sense is needed in this not science .again, that's not how that works. God, you're fucking stupid. His head is fucking tilted to the right downwards. d o w n w a r d s Search human anatomy and how line sight works before you talk shit. Oh wow, then you include fucking science when you're proving a point. I can't believe I manage to last with this fucking stupid selfish hypocrite. |
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