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Are SnK fanboys are just the next generation of SAO fanboys?
Yes.
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No.
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Jun 19, 2013 1:43 AM
#1
Okay the premise of this is somewhat simple too be honest, basically, everytime a new series comes out people instantly hop on to the bandwagon proclaiming "this is the best anime evar!!!" or other misinformed and rash statements (many such fanboys are even found later to retract these statements and join the formerly accused "hipsters" or "elitists" in saying things like "this anime is shit!"). So basically, do you think that it is possible that SnK fans have merely gotten caught up in the hype of it all and soon the anime is going to fall drastically in popularity as the original "flame" it had burns out. Furthermore do you think that the anime community is too quick to elevate some new series to being "the best" after a single episode just to realize it isn't after a few more episodes yet repeat the same process a few months later? I actually don't believe this is the case but feel free to hate me all the same for daring to comparing SnK fans to SAO fans |
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Jun 19, 2013 1:46 AM
#2
No. Sao fans will be Sao fans and SnK fans will be SnK fans. |
Jun 19, 2013 1:46 AM
#3
SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. |
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Jun 19, 2013 1:49 AM
#6
If somebody gets "caught up in the hype", and expresses that they like the show, they already liked it to begin with. Nobody changes their opinion because other people say something else. Generally, people actually get mad when a lot of people disagree and try and fight all the harder to show their discontent. "Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. |
Jun 19, 2013 1:51 AM
#8
Maybe you are talking about anime "hypebeasts" people who hop over to "the next big thing" every season and proclaim about how it's the best show ever? |
Jun 19, 2013 1:53 AM
#9
Red_Keys said: Not necessarily true, marketing can create "hype" before any prior knowledge, for instance, CoD: MW3 is apparently shit ... but apparently also sold the most amount of copies in a 24 hour period after release (out of any game to date, with 3.4 million copies sold 24 hours after release). This could be considered "hype" where people afterwards who got caught up in it were just like ... "@#$%!!!!""Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. |
Jun 19, 2013 1:53 AM
#10
SnK is overhyped but still a decent show so some of the praise is warranted SAO isn't as good or as bad as people would have you believe but it's still a shitty show overall Honestly I find the people who rant and rave about how much they hate the show tend to be much more annoying than the fans. Especially with SnK where most of its hate comes from people focusing too much on they hype to realise it's actually competently written |
Jun 19, 2013 1:54 AM
#11
Are SnK fanboys making wild excuses to defend aspects of the show that makes no sense? If so, then yes. Otherwise, just wait and see how the show goes. If it starts going to shit at around episode 14, then you have a point. |
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Jun 19, 2013 1:54 AM
#12
Pirating_Ninja said: And that hype was created because people liked what they saw in the previews.Red_Keys said: Not necessarily true, marketing can create "hype" before any prior knowledge, for instance, CoD: MW3 is apparently shit ... but apparently also sold the most amount of copies in a 24 hour period after release. This could be considered "hype" where people afterwards who got caught up in it were just like ... "@#$%!!!!""Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. |
Jun 19, 2013 1:56 AM
#13
Red_Keys said: exactly, but previews aren't the game, just a collection of scenes (created to market the series and usually not a very good example of the quality of the actual game/movie/anime/etc.) and just like that the first episode of a series could be good but then it goes to shit from there, yet people just see the first episode and already think it will be amazing.Pirating_Ninja said: And that hype was created because people liked what they saw in the previews.Red_Keys said: Not necessarily true, marketing can create "hype" before any prior knowledge, for instance, CoD: MW3 is apparently shit ... but apparently also sold the most amount of copies in a 24 hour period after release. This could be considered "hype" where people afterwards who got caught up in it were just like ... "@#$%!!!!""Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. |
Jun 19, 2013 1:56 AM
#14
1) sao never really had the fanboy problem, it got the twilight/bieber treatment of hate. 2) SnK is one of thr best and only few things that are great surrounded by a puddle of shit anime 3) the fanboy generation is still the same and will be so for 15 years; called One Piece |
Jun 19, 2013 1:58 AM
#15
Pirating_Ninja said: Yea... because they like it.exactly, but previews aren't the game, just a collection of scenes (created to market the series and usually not a very good example of the quality of the actual game/movie/anime/etc.) and just like that the first episode of a series could be good but then it goes to shit from there, yet people just see the first episode and already think it will be amazing. Liking something creates hype. Hype does not cause people to like something. |
Jun 19, 2013 2:00 AM
#16
Dolan-chan said: SnK is one of thr best and only few things that are great surrounded by a puddle of shit anime ![]() |
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Jun 19, 2013 2:06 AM
#17
Why do you people feel the need to do this |
Jun 19, 2013 2:07 AM
#18
Dolan-chan said: 3) the fanboy generation is still the same and will be so for 15 years; called Naruto fixed it for you |
Jun 19, 2013 3:27 AM
#19
Nah, anime itself was, is, and will always be a top priority for me. A decade or so, there weren't even anime communities to begin with, or they were presented rather locally, and by far were less in numbers. I am pretty certain that anime fans exist outside forums, as well as forums are usually more useful to people who are new/er in watching anime. That is, I don't entirely agree that anime communities should be presented as institutions of some sort - they are not - and what is best in not being such, is that they excel in being flexible and dynamic in gathering fans. Then again, fans are not some sort of a paper-cut scarecrow - they are people and also different people. If I come to an anime forum, I prefer to see them as persons, with various thoughts and tastes, not as lynching groups in label wars, lacking whatsoever sense. That is, anime series might be less good and bad than people make them to be. And this refers not only to SnK or SAO, but every damn series. I seriously thought that SAO was the number #1 on this site, judging by the unexplainable flood of topics on hype, rate, or PMS rants in SnK sub-board. While I highly appreciate that 'the anime community" has taken a more critical stance after SAO, it seems to me that nothing can stop it from making the mistake in going to the other extreme - bashing new series because they are popular, disregarding whether they are also good in the same time. How popularity ends should depend on the series. Fans and non-fans are free to reflect this in any way they deem fit. As an anime fan, and a fan of SnK, this is what I'll do. |
Jun 19, 2013 3:32 AM
#20
All fanboys are stupid. |
Jun 19, 2013 3:36 AM
#21
What about those who where already addicted to SNK with the manga before the anime ? What's the point of the topic ? Why the need to find a "fanboy anime" each season ? |
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Jun 19, 2013 3:36 AM
#22
Dolan-chan said: SnK is one of thr best and only few things that are great surrounded by a puddle of shit anime I spilled my coke. Fuck you man. |
Jun 19, 2013 3:48 AM
#23
Honestly, from what I've seen? A large proportion of the anime's fans can be called that, yes. Though I think SnK has been able to touch upon a much larger audience due to its lack of hamfisted harem and romance elements, as well as just being a better series overall. And I don't think the flame will die out just yet. In regards to SAO, I'm guessing you're talking about the second half, right? Assuming they continue to closely follow the source material, SnK's second half should be much better than its first. |
Jun 19, 2013 4:08 AM
#24
SnK has been able to reach a much larger audience because of high production value and suspenseful directing. Yes, SnK follows the shounen formula, but it's focused in its narrative. Unlike many other of the shounen genre, there is clear directionality. The director knows how he wants us to feel, and he is confident towards that goal; he doesn't second-guess himself with comedic relief or inappropriate romance. Although we don't know how the series will play out yet, I like to compare what it is so far with another shounen formula anime with clear directionality: Fullmetal Achemist. |
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Jun 19, 2013 4:14 AM
#25
Amarrez said: Honestly, from what I've seen? A large proportion of the anime's fans can be called that, yes. Though I think SnK has been able to touch upon a much larger audience due to its lack of hamfisted harem and romance elements, as well as just being a better series overall. And I don't think the flame will die out just yet. In regards to SAO, I'm guessing you're talking about the second half, right? Assuming they continue to closely follow the source material, SnK's second half should be much better than its first. Nah it's because it has action. That's all, all they care is about the action. They care about that more than any genre of anime in the world. That's why SAO had a sudden burst of fanboys praising the shit out of it, but with SAO, the next big reason is because it's a fucking MMORPG. |
Jun 19, 2013 4:16 AM
#26
Red_Keys said: If somebody gets "caught up in the hype", and expresses that they like the show, they already liked it to begin with. Nobody changes their opinion because other people say something else. Generally, people actually get mad when a lot of people disagree and try and fight all the harder to show their discontent. "Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. Hype is caused by people liking something, and hoping for something epic. It's a double edged sword, because it can go down to shit, just like SAO did. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:14 AM
#27
mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:18 AM
#28
wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:22 AM
#29
Pirating_Ninja said: Red_Keys said: Not necessarily true, marketing can create "hype" before any prior knowledge, for instance, CoD: MW3 is apparently shit ... but apparently also sold the most amount of copies in a 24 hour period after release (out of any game to date, with 3.4 million copies sold 24 hours after release). This could be considered "hype" where people afterwards who got caught up in it were just like ... "@#$%!!!!""Hype" is caused by people liking something. Not the other way around. Some people find Call of Duty fun. Some people like you think insulting Call of Duty on an anime forum where nobody cares about first person shooters will make them seem cool. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:32 AM
#30
It's the only anime worth watching this season. Go back to your "cute girls doing cute things" and slice of life. Joking, but still.. it's the only anime that interests me this season. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:38 AM
#31
Arlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. I am just telling the truth and the facts and I didn't start anything OP started it went he opened this topic. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:43 AM
#32
Maybe the truth from your point of view, but please. Without hating or fanboying feelings. These shows aren't the two bests anime ever. We don't even know if they're going to stay printed in our memories for a long time. I don't think Mirai Nikki or SAO are such greats anime... They didn't have that much impact. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:45 AM
#33
wukp said: Opinion =/= FactArlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. I am just telling the truth and the facts and I didn't start anything OP started it went he opened this topic. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:46 AM
#34
Arlia said: Maybe the truth from your point of view, but please. Without hating or fanboying feelings. These shows aren't the two bests anime ever. We don't even know if they're going to stay printed in our memories for a long time. I don't think Mirai Nikki or SAO are such greats anime... No, not the truth from my point of view the truth from majority point of view. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:47 AM
#35
NiN10d0h said: You almost had me raging there for a second. It's the only anime worth watching this season. Go back to your "cute girls doing cute things" and slice of life. Joking, but still.. it's the only anime that interests me this season. Though you were joking, do note that just because an anime is slice of life or moe (please don't lump those by the way; they're two very different things) doesn't make it bad. When done right, shows of both genres can be kick-ass awesome. wukp said: I like you. You're not joining the bandwagon of hate for either series (I preferred Mirai Nikki to SAO, but both were pretty fun and entertaining).Arlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:48 AM
#36
Candor said: wukp said: Opinion =/= FactArlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. I am just telling the truth and the facts and I didn't start anything OP started it went he opened this topic. The fact is that those anime is loved by the majority and it isn't my opinion it is the fact otherwise they wouldn't be so popular. |
The real world is past the virtual world is future. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:50 AM
#37
Gintama is popular and awesome..Without a doubt it's an unique anime,however it's still not finnished and so it's early to call it one of the best anime ever,but the anime shines with unique and good animation,good sound and a fascinating story.Even though there are many cliches in this anime and the characters might not be so deep BUT overall I find that the anime is good.The begining for me was a 7 then somewhere from episode 5 - 9 it was a 10 then the new episodes are kinda bad I would give it only a 8 however I will still watch it :) |
It's insane how awesome Fate/Zero is. |
Jun 19, 2013 5:51 AM
#38
why do you care?let them fanboy over whatever they want who are you to criticise them? |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:55 AM
#39
wukp said: Candor said: wukp said: Opinion =/= FactArlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. I am just telling the truth and the facts and I didn't start anything OP started it went he opened this topic. The fact is that those anime is loved by the majority and it isn't my opinion it is the fact otherwise they wouldn't be so popular. Popularity =/= quality. |
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Jun 19, 2013 5:57 AM
#40
mitch3315 said: wukp said: Candor said: wukp said: Opinion =/= FactArlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. I am just telling the truth and the facts and I didn't start anything OP started it went he opened this topic. The fact is that those anime is loved by the majority and it isn't my opinion it is the fact otherwise they wouldn't be so popular. Popularity =/= quality. Popularity =/= quality comfort for people with shit taste. |
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Jun 19, 2013 6:17 AM
#41
SAO > Mirai Nikki |
Jun 19, 2013 6:19 AM
#42
Because you think that Sao and Mirrai Nikki are the two most popular anime ever ? Ehhh.... I can see the problem. |
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Jun 19, 2013 6:21 AM
#43
AndyRayy said: wukp said: I like you. You're not joining the bandwagon of hate for either series (I preferred Mirai Nikki to SAO, but both were pretty fun and entertaining).Arlia said: wukp said: mitch3315 said: SAO fanboys were just the next generation of Mirai Nikki fanboys. Because there are people who know what is good. Mirai Nikki and SAO are the best animes ever and no mater how much of you haters is there the fact remains that both of these animes are very popular and loved by the majority. Oh, please. Don't start another annoying war with something as absurd as "best anime ever" for two recent series. Actually a too prefer Mirai Nikki my #1 Mirai Nikki my #2 SAO |
The real world is past the virtual world is future. |
Jun 19, 2013 6:28 AM
#44
Arlia said: Because you think that Sao and Mirrai Nikki are the two most popular anime ever ? Ehhh.... I can see the problem. No I never said the two most popular anime ever but they are in the first 50 of the most popular and most loved animes ever. |
The real world is past the virtual world is future. |
Jun 19, 2013 6:30 AM
#45
Hold your horse guys..... Thread just getting out of topic |
Jun 19, 2013 6:32 AM
#46
While every series has fanboys, I actually thought Sword Art Online was pretty damn good. Yes, it couldn't make up it's mind, did a 180 and decided to introduce a too sudden romance element all of a sudden with no build up, and yes, I would have preferred Kirito to remain soloing it up for the entire series, getting a new girl every other episode, but the action remained, so I wasn't too bothered by it. While there was less of it, it was still there and in acceptable doses. All in all, while it was great, it was not quite amazing. Still, it didn't deserve half the amount of hate it got by hype haters, and it had the potential to be amazing, but made a wrong choice. Hey, we all make mistakes, right? As for SnK, I'll rate it regardless of hype like everything else. While it may actually be good, I couldn't be the judge of that as I typically hate war-ish type anime like this. I watched the first episode and it reminds me of Gurren Laggan because of the whole "we are trapped thing", and while I'm quite aware that most find Gurren Laggan to be amazing, it didn't suit my tastes as it was also war-ish. |
Jun 19, 2013 6:33 AM
#47
yakoo said: Hold your horse guys..... Thread just getting out of topic Now I believe that topic is going just in the way that the OP wanted it when he opened it. |
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Jun 19, 2013 6:40 AM
#48
Meh, just read the manga and you will know why is so highly liked |
Jun 19, 2013 6:41 AM
#49
renders said: why do you care?let them fanboy over whatever they want who are you to criticise them? this... and also, god what a USELESS topic -_- |
Jun 19, 2013 6:43 AM
#50
wukp said: yakoo said: Hold your horse guys..... Thread just getting out of topic Now I believe that topic is going just in the way that the OP wanted it when he opened it. if you believe it, and u take part in it,it makes you looks like idiot |
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