| Yes am shouting because am starting to get sick of it and i think that whoever is responsible for this site is less capable than the 5 year old kid of my neighbor. My messages are disabled, i get MySQL errors every 2 or 3 clicks and the profile search faction that shows any new post in threads you posted isn't operating for months now. Not to mention the delays in updates and posts. WTF!!! MAL!!!!!! Now if this was a fresh problem that just happened in this few days then what the hell maybe they are fixing it. But similar problems appear every little time. There is a bad coding somewhere and the people here just seem to patch the problem and wait until the site crashes again before they patch it again but they NEVER fix the problem at it's core once and for all. If you don't have a capable programmer that can find what is fundamentally wrong with your code for almost two years now then hire one goddammit! How many times will people see 65536 messages? How many times will there updates be late? How many times will the search option suck? How many times will a post need 1 hour to appear for you geniuses to understand that they are the same problems again and again and they were never really fixed and that's why they keep appearing? Lately i saw some changes. Well before you make any new cosmetic changes or put new features, HOW ABOUT FIXING THE PROBLEMS you already have for so much time now!? As usually an admin will probably not answer at this threat but hey i still made it just to see if anyone of them will actually care to answer honestly. |
| Bleh. I keep getting MySQL errors too.. The updates go on and off, sometimes they don't even save. I hope they fix it soon. |
| Totally agreed. It seems that MAL's policy is more oriented towards Facebook design, then actual Lists and Anime comunity. |
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| Amen. |
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| Getting the errors too, fucking pissing me off. |
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| Haven't been able to view messages for days. |
| I made my previous MAL account years ago and it's true - this isn't the first time I'm getting annoying errors /: seriously dudes, fix them! 'coz MAL is an awesome place for listing anime and manga and I don't wanna move to shitty AniDB D: |
| I feel you. I'm a member for about a year (or a little longer) now, and I haven't seen this site not-glitchy. It's really getting on my nerves, because the list is a huge support for me to remember everything I saw, and I get really confused if updates aren't showing, or are lagged. Someone should fix this problem, really. You can't run a site like this. |
| My list doesn't update properly and I can barely post normal in the forum~ I'm really irritated now~ |
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| Im never online apparently when I look at my profile, I cant see recent posts in the forums (its about an hour behind), cant view my messages, cant update my list, cant put up blogs. Just sort it out. |
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TheFramedAngel said: Im never online apparently when I look at my profile, I cant see recent posts in the forums (its about an hour behind), cant view my messages, cant update my list, cant put up blogs. Agreed, except the list updated. I'm suprised that it works for me, 'cause MAL loves to give me tons of MySQL errors when I try to update my list. xD |
DrHavocMDJul 14, 2010 7:16 PM
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| Like my announcement says, we're working on it. Sorry for all the trouble guys. |
Xinil said: Could you do us a favor and detail what you're doing?Like my announcement says, we're working on it. Sorry for all the trouble guys. Keeping a constant update of what you're working on and what you're planning to address might help alleviate a great deal of frustration. |
 "if the show is good i couldn't care less if hitler directed it and the production values was a banana." - Salsk |
| You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. |
_Vincent_ said: You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. Agreed. |
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_Vincent_ said: You're implying it's a charitable service and not a tool to make money off of the users by selling advertising.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. Such an implication would make you wrong. |
"if the show is good i couldn't care less if hitler directed it and the production values was a banana." - Salsk |
| The MySQL errors are annoying, but don't have any other problems. Think MAL is doing a pretty good job if they fix that :) |
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| I have 50 messages and I haven't been able to read them for a week! I keep getting that stupid "disabled for the time being" message all the time! I hope they fix it soon.... |
K_N said: _Vincent_ said: You're implying it's a charitable service and not a tool to make money off of the users by selling advertising.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. Such an implication would make you wrong. Are you in any way paying for anything this site is offering? No? Then it's a free service. And it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal, it's just to help covering the cost of running the site most likely, you're just sounding like an ungrateful and arrogant fool. Funnily enough I've only ever had one MySQL error in the past few months, I suppose I'm a lucky one, oh well. |
Onibokusu said: K_N said: Xinil said: Could you do us a favor and detail what you're doing?Like my announcement says, we're working on it. Sorry for all the trouble guys. Keeping a constant update of what you're working on and what you're planning to address might help alleviate a great deal of frustration. I'm with K_N. A simple "I'm working on it" could mean many things. It could also mean nothing at all, taking a certain track record into account. Are you just doing enough to get the site back up and running, as it is now, or are you going to go deeper than that? Yeah that my point in the initial post. Saying you are working on it is fine and all but what we really want to know is if you are gonna go deep enough to fix this problems at the core and not just patch things until it all crashes again like it happens for some time now. EmP1ty said: K_N said: _Vincent_ said: You're implying it's a charitable service and not a tool to make money off of the users by selling advertising.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. Such an implication would make you wrong. Are you in any way paying for anything this site is offering? No? Then it's a free service. And it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal, it's just to help covering the cost of running the site most likely, you're just sounding like an ungrateful and arrogant fool. The fool is you and others like you. Free my ass! When someone does a job he ether does it right or not. Free or not free doesn't matter. What a victim mentality you have. Is because of people like you in the world that politicians and governments piss on our heads. People happy just chewing there bone in the corner like dogs. And besides what does it mean is free? Is not like they are giving me food to eat. It's just a site to kill some time and keep your list. I can go by in my life with out it. Sure it's useful but i don't really need it that much. This site needs people more than people need the site. It doesn't have a choice than being free. The users make it what it is. They put many updates of anime,manga and characters. They make reviews, they create discussion and give scores about episodes. I can still live without Mal. Just make a list in another place or just use Excel and i can talk about anime in many other forums if i want. MAL needs the users and the popularity for advertising a lot more. But in the end none of all this matters. Is a matter of doing a good job. If you are gonna do it then fucking do it. |
EmP1ty said: Funnily enough I've only ever had one MySQL error in the past few months Now that has to be the worst lie I've seen in a while and if you frequent this site weekly surely you would get more then ONE! SQL error. In the last couple of days this site was loaded with them. Even now I'm getting errors at this very moment. |
KuroDubZeroJul 15, 2010 6:10 AM
Saya said: Wow, you sure aren't overreacting. The element of overreaction is deliberate in the hope to maybe make some people move there ass since just posting simple polite questions hasn't worked for more than a year now that MAL seems to be in some MySQL circle of doom. |
Monad said: Protip: Read towards the bottom. Surely this tells you something about the problem? Specifically the line that says Posting about them will not help fix them. Or in my own words, Bitching rarely helps get work done. I understand everyone's frustration; I'm frustrated with the problems as well. But in the end, being patient and waiting is all you can do. If you're that fed up, fine. Quietly pack up and head for AniDB.Saya said: Wow, you sure aren't overreacting. The element of overreaction is deliberate in the hope to maybe make some people move there ass since just posting simple polite questions hasn't worked for more than a year now that MAL seems to be in some MySQL circle of doom. |
EmP1ty said: And it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal, it's just to help covering the cost of running the site most likely, you're just sounding like an ungrateful and arrogant fool. I clearly don't want to debate about MAL specific case, but I'm always surprised how much people can be so credulous when they speak about web sites. MAL was sold to a business company to make business/profit and it's quite normal. http://7zoom.com/www.myanimelist.net I can also find exactly the same credulous comments about fansub websites considered as "saints" whereas they are often earning a lot of money. If a lot of fansub teams work on the same popular anime but try to be the first one to launch the weekly translated ep it's not cause they love their fans, it's just to grow their website's visitors to maximize their profit. |
Monad said: The fool is you and others like you. Free my ass! When someone does a job he ether does it right or not. Free or not free doesn't matter. What a victim mentality you have. Is because of people like you in the world that politicians and governments piss on our heads. People happy just chewing there bone in the corner like dogs. And besides what does it mean is free? Is not like they are giving me food to eat. It's just a site to kill some time and keep your list. I can go by in my life with out it. Sure it's useful but i don't really need it that much. This site needs people more than people need the site. It doesn't have a choice than being free. The users make it what it is. They put many updates of anime,manga and characters. They make reviews, they create discussion and give scores about episodes. I can still live without Mal. Just make a list in another place or just use Excel and i can talk about anime in many other forums if i want. MAL needs the users and the popularity for advertising a lot more. But in the end none of all this matters. Is a matter of doing a good job. If you are gonna do it then fucking do it. So if it's so damn simple as that, why not start up your own site? Dang, people like you tick me off. More often then not, these sorts of sites are made so that members of a certain hobby can discuss things online and in the case of this site, make it more convenient for people so they can kep track of the series they have watched and find more for them to enjoy. It's something that is probably for recreation, so what the heck makes you think that complaining about something people are doing for fun is going to get things done? They probably make pretty little off this site (I mean, really, ads must be the main source of income here and there are already few of those) and they still have to pay for the webspace and domain name. They have already accomplished a fairly nice site (And obviously, at some point, you believed so too or else you would not be one it) and it seems, with all the updates, they're trying to make it nicer. At least they're putting in an effort. If you can give it up and you're going to be doing nothing but bitch and complain on here, then give it up. Don't let that door hit you in the ass on the way out. |
| I thought I'm the only one had it... so it's a general error. good to know (not really). well, I hope it will get fixed soon... |
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_Vincent_ said: You know what other services I get for free? E-mail, functioning forums, video streaming, humorous articles, police and fire protection, public restrooms, access to most of the world's largest repositories of information, and so on and so forth. They all work fine, why can't the same from this?You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. |
| This is a serious post. You're not allowed to delete it. |
CDRW said: _Vincent_ said: You know what other services I get for free? E-mail, functioning forums, video streaming, humorous articles, police and fire protection, public restrooms, access to most of the world's largest repositories of information, and so on and so forth. They all work fine, why can't the same from this?You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. So go to those instead of here. Nothing is stopping you. |
EmP1ty said: It's owned by a corporation now. Making money is the main goal. It is not a free service, it's more like a symbiotic relationship. Without the users, the site would go under, without the site, the users could not avail of it's services.K_N said: _Vincent_ said: You're implying it's a charitable service and not a tool to make money off of the users by selling advertising.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. Such an implication would make you wrong. Are you in any way paying for anything this site is offering? No? Then it's a free service. And it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal, it's just to help covering the cost of running the site most likely, you're just sounding like an ungrateful and arrogant fool. Funnily enough I've only ever had one MySQL error in the past few months, I suppose I'm a lucky one, oh well. However, when the site is incredibly broken, ie: Having to refresh the boards 6 times to see a single post, not being able to receive messages, cache servers not being updated in 10 hours, it breaks the give-take of the site and it's users, meaning we are now providing MAL's corporate overlords with it's beloved advertising revenue, but not receiving much in return. That is something to complain about, and is what we are doing. You are a lucky one. I haven't been posting much because it literally was taking me 10 minutes to make a thread and see that it's been posted. --- Xjellocross said: Wrong.Monad said: Protip: Read towards the bottom. Surely this tells you something about the problem? Specifically the line that says Posting about them will not help fix them. Or in my own words, Bitching rarely helps get work done. I understand everyone's frustration; I'm frustrated with the problems as well. But in the end, being patient and waiting is all you can do. If you're that fed up, fine. Quietly pack up and head for AniDB.Saya said: Wow, you sure aren't overreacting. The element of overreaction is deliberate in the hope to maybe make some people move there ass since just posting simple polite questions hasn't worked for more than a year now that MAL seems to be in some MySQL circle of doom. Ever heard the saying, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease?" it's true. --- CDRW said: Actually, you're paying for those. Taxes, bro._Vincent_ said: You know what other services I get for free? Police and fire protection, public restrooms.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. |
K_NJul 15, 2010 2:05 PM
"if the show is good i couldn't care less if hitler directed it and the production values was a banana." - Salsk |
KuroDubZero said: EmP1ty said: Funnily enough I've only ever had one MySQL error in the past few months Now that has to be the worst lie I've seen in a while and if you frequent this site weekly surely you would get more then ONE! SQL error. In the last couple of days this site was loaded with them. Even now I'm getting errors at this very moment. Nope, only one. Why would I lie when it will serve me no purpose? Just because you are an unfortunate one does not mean I am, so take your terrible attitude and back off. And for the record no, I don't frequent this site much, probably a handful of times a week just to update my list and make a brief skim of the forums, by the sounds of it if I was glued to this thing night and day I'd probably see it more often, but I'm not. Monad said: The fool is you and others like you. Free my ass! When someone does a job he ether does it right or not. Free or not free doesn't matter. What a victim mentality you have. Is because of people like you in the world that politicians and governments piss on our heads. People happy just chewing there bone in the corner like dogs. And besides what does it mean is free? Is not like they are giving me food to eat. It's just a site to kill some time and keep your list. I can go by in my life with out it. Sure it's useful but i don't really need it that much. This site needs people more than people need the site. It doesn't have a choice than being free. The users make it what it is. They put many updates of anime,manga and characters. They make reviews, they create discussion and give scores about episodes. I can still live without Mal. Just make a list in another place or just use Excel and i can talk about anime in many other forums if i want. MAL needs the users and the popularity for advertising a lot more. But in the end none of all this matters. Is a matter of doing a good job. If you are gonna do it then fucking do it. My my, someone is more than a little ticked off. You say you could live without MAL? Well, you seem to think they're doing a terrible job, then why don't you go find somewhere else, take your own advice and use another place, or excel. What do I mean it's free? Well that is pretty self explanitory. There is no fee to use this site, you do not need to donate, subscribe, pay a one off payment, therefore free, therefore they are giving it to you for nothing. MAL is doing a good job in my opinion, but with a site this large it would be ludicrous to expect perfection from it, you expect too much and for some reason it seems you feel they 'owe' you a flawless and amazing service, they don't owe you anything apart from a small thanks for choosing to use their site, if you think otherwise then my god you need to get your head out of your ass. kwizatz said: EmP1ty said: And it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal, it's just to help covering the cost of running the site most likely, you're just sounding like an ungrateful and arrogant fool. I clearly don't want to debate about MAL specific case, but I'm always surprised how much people can be so credulous when they speak about web sites. MAL was sold to a business company to make business/profit and it's quite normal. http://7zoom.com/www.myanimelist.net Please give me some real evidence that they sold their site to a business company, that link proves nothing, it is a simple site to judge the approximate 'net worth' of the site, as well as information such as traffic, server locations and such, there is no indication that it was sold, and in fact if you check the about page on this very website, it says, and I quote - "Created and actively maintained by Garrett Gyssler, MyAnimeList is a community run entirely by its moderators and users from all over the world. " Please get your facts straight. Sorry for the long post, but I figured I would reply in one big burst. |
EmP1ty said: Please give me some real evidence that they sold their site to a business company, that link proves nothing, it is a simple site to judge the approximate 'net worth' of the site, as well as information such as traffic, server locations and such, there is no indication that it was sold, and in fact if you check the about page on this very website, it says, and I quote - "Created and actively maintained by Garrett Gyssler, MyAnimeList is a community run entirely by its moderators and users from all over the world. " Please get your facts straight. You haven't been here long enough it seems. Garrett sold MAL to CraveOnline, it was a big deal. I guess the site did get worse after that, even though most of us were happy for him at the time. Xjellocross said: Or in my own words, Bitching rarely helps get work done. Actually, it does. |
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Beatnik said: You haven't been here long enough it seems. Garrett sold MAL to CraveOnline, it was a big deal. I guess the site did get worse after that, even though most of us were happy for him at the time. Xjellocross said: Or in my own words, Bitching rarely helps get work done. Actually, it does. Oh, well as he only posted a useless link that gave no evidence whatsoever I was skeptical of the credibility, but looking more into it I see you are indeed correct, oh well, my point still stands in that it is a free service and this level of hostility is unwarranted. *Shrug* |
EmP1ty said: Oh, well as he only posted a useless link that gave no evidence whatsoever I was skeptical of the credibility, but looking more into it I see you are indeed correct, oh well, my point still stands in that it is a free service and this level of hostility is unwarranted. *Shrug* lol, the link shows how much great is the profit value of this site, whereas you credulously wrote EmP1ty said: it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal Learn 2 read :o |
K_N said: Indirect paymet that is automatically deducted from my paycheck. I am also indirectly paying for MAL, a couple more steps are involved, but my payments for MAL are as concious and intentional as my payments for those.CDRW said: Actually, you're paying for those. Taxes, bro._Vincent_ said: You know what other services I get for free? Police and fire protection, public restrooms.You're getting this service for free. Stop bitching. |
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kwizatz said: EmP1ty said: Oh, well as he only posted a useless link that gave no evidence whatsoever I was skeptical of the credibility, but looking more into it I see you are indeed correct, oh well, my point still stands in that it is a free service and this level of hostility is unwarranted. *Shrug* lol, the link shows how much great is the profit value of this site, whereas you credulously wrote EmP1ty said: it's not like selling advertising to make money off users is their main goal Learn 2 read :o I find irony in someone saying "learn to read" without using proper spelling, haha. But still, what do you mean by that, the advertising is obviously NOT their main goal, or there would be far more advertisements, the main goal is exactly what it says on the tin, a place for people to catalogue the anime and manga, and of course, forums, info etcetera. Aaaanways, I made my point long ago and this is getting nowhere so I'll leave it at that. |
| Back on topic, what HAS been fixed? Forums and being able to access parts of the site seem fine, although updating things still doesn't seem to be happening. Editing things also seems to be down. |
SnG said: It seems that MAL's policy is more oriented towards Facebook design, then actual Lists and Anime comunity. Oddly enough, someone thought I was surfing Facebook when I was on the MAL page. |
| the site keeps logging me out very 5 minutes every time I try to post I'm logged out every time I go to the club I'm logged out sometimes when I reply a comment in my profile I'm logged out even now I've logged out 3 times before I could post this! won't you get nervous if something like this happened to you? If something like this would happen to a mod they'll fix it as soon as they can if something like this happen to a normal member we should wait and wait and wait it's 3 month I keep having this lag(and my cookies are on so don't tell me it's a cookies problem) will you do something about it? Obviously NO I love this site but all this lag are making me hate it |
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