Shinjiteita Nakama-tachi ni Dungeon Okuchi de Korosarekaketa ga Gift "Mugen Gacha" de Level 9999 no Nakama-tachi wo Te ni Irete Moto Party Member to Sekai ni Fukushuu & "Zamaa!" Shimasu! Episode 1 Discussion

.................. "revenge" story .... turned "PG-13 , romance comedy".......
YES! this show is 100% FUCKED UP!
the story "based on the adaptation" should be minimum R-17 / R-18 if not straight out R-X
now every single girl will be a barbie, and every single "ecchi" scene will be watered down...
it's official! the show is DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

will he REALLY rise to be the demon lord of the world? .... i highly doubt it..
i'll give it the 3 episodes test, although true be told, i DID skip half the episode since i only wanted to see him using the gacha to summon his first subordinate

Been there done that revenge story... nothing new here.

Every season has the anime where I'll set the bar for "mid" feels like this will be the perfect one for that. Seems fun enough and hope we don't get another failure frame.

@Kurtadam13
R-18 with a 12 years old protagonist ?

@Mainnus
Good luck finding something new with a mind like that.

@groudonvert "a 12 year old protagnoist" who is the main character in a
Genres:
Manga,Shounen(B),Ecchi,Action,Adventure,Fantasy,Harem,Isekai,Magic,Adaptation,Tragedy,Monsters,Shota
story??

a story where all the harem without exception are lunatic YANDERE hardcore SHOTACON lovers who won't mind JUMPING the guy the moment they get permission??? ECCHI = FETISH DRIVEN SHIT! HAREM = THE MAIN CHARACTER WILL BE PLACED IN STUPID SITUATIONS WHERE HE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY A GROUP OF WHORES BETWEEN 5 OR MORE!

be thankful i didn't ask the story to be straight out HENTAI! if the anime wishes to go "anime original FRAUD" that's its own problem!
this is originally a SHOTCON fetish, focused ECCHI HAREM PILE OF SHIT!
every single female summon wishes to breed her master!
THAT'S THE LITERAL CANONICAL LORE!
i've READ the manga as is, i know what i'm talking about!

@Kurtadam13
Yeah, but it's not a harem. The love is totally one-sided and due to the fact it's a master-servant relationship.
Also I read the Light Novel.

Art style reminds me of Danmachi but well nice start. I hope he won't become a Wimpy in later episode. Revenge should be like redo of healer level lol then only things get interesting. From the end theme it seems he will summon a lot of lvl 9999 characters.

@groudonvert since you read the light novel, does he manage to get his revenge, or is it still getting milked?
just write it as a spoiler. i really want to know.
if it's still being milked, i'll simply drop it, if he gets his revenge, i'll keep following it, and if he decided to just become a goody two shoes..
also drop.

Damn it i get a gotcha anime and his power isn't even based on luck

@Kurtadam13

@groudonvert how many volumes? is the story getting milked?

Already have, plenty in fact.

Well, this was incredibly dumb. It seems like every season we get at least one of these, where the anime is not only trying to fit into an overdone genre (whatever, I'll still watch), but trying SO hard that they use a plot that just nonsensical.

No real explanation provided for why humans are looked down on. It's sort of implied that they have naturally low stats, but that is from one half-second mention in one line with no explanation, and again leads to the question of why a human would try and be an adventurer then if they don't have the stats for it.
Zero explanation provided for why humans, or at least Light, would leave home to try and be an adventurer in a town where humans are discriminated against. And if adventurers are all non-humans (seemed so based on who he encountered in town, why are humans staffing the adventurers guild?
The usual idiotic idea of a child trying to become an adventurer for some reason. No shiat he's getting pushed around. Why did his parents allow him to even try this? Did his parents want him dead too? None of the other adventurers appear to be children (not that that would really make it any less dumb).
No reason why Light thought any of this would work out, since he has zero strength, low level, a worthless ability, no experience, and zero confidence.
No explanation for why Light never spammed his gacha until RNG gave him something good before now. Sure chances could be low on the surface, but farming low chance RNG through sheer volume is a thing. It's literally what gacha is about. He's had his whole life to spam his ability over and over and over again.
Show just ignores the fact that even useless items are actually valuable in volume. Even with just the two things we saw in ep 1, the ability to create an infinite amount of metal (the bent fork) and fertilizer or animal feed (the rotting food) would make Light a lot of money if he wasn't a moron.

Yeah, maybe the people in town and in his party are assholes, but it doesn't change the fact that Light appears to be a complete idiot. It would be like if I tried out for a professional sports team and then was somehow surprised when it didn't work out based on my experience sitting on the couch watching anime.

Separately, it was amusing in a stupid way that the elf complains about the wolf giving Light wounds not consistent with a monster attack when the wolf was giving him claw and blunt force wounds and the elf was shooting him with arrows.

The whole basis for the plot is just...really contrived. Maybe it can be ignored since it's really just a vehicle to get to the story after he gets abandoned, but it just feels incredibly lazy. Like the kind of intro that an AI would write if you fed it a bunch of bad "kicked out of party" intros and it didn't quite get them.

Well I guess that was an impressive titty shape shot as Mei was summoned into the world.

I'm glad that Light isn't tooo vengeful, as there's already a fair few shows where it becomes a little too "edgy" by going deep into the revenge of the MC.

Also the general concept of the gacha ability is pretty funny too.

@amf85
The basic answer to your question of "Why Light became an adventurer, why his parents let him go, etc." is : Light's gift. Light wanted to take profit of his gift to help his poor family (I mean if you don't know how to read, you're not from the wealthiest family on earth).

You're right on why the other species despise humans : lowest level curve, low lifespan... the only advantage they have on other species seem to be their gift and the fact they can have Maestro/Masters (whatever that means).

@groudonvert I get that that is the stated reason (Light says so in the episode), my point is that it makes no sense given that both Light and his family believe his gift is worthless. It would actually make far more sense (and fit with the dark theme the show is trying to create) if his family was secretly sending him to die on purpose to have one less mouth to feed.

Also, as I originally posted, if Light wasn't an idiot his ability could generate infinite wealth even on the surface with shiat rolls. Becoming an adventurer was an idiotic idea.

@GooseHybrid if it's not EDGY, it's not revenge...
the best possible example for a SHITTY revenge story .. is "the rising of the shield hero"
best example for a REAL REVENGE story ..
Rooftop Swordmaster
The Most Notorious "Talker" Runs the World's Greatest Clan
The Executed Sage Who Was Reincarnated as a Lich Started an All-Out War
Bones
her play things
Fukushuu wo Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou suru
redo of the healer
Maria no Danzai
...
and a couple more .
these are ADULTS ONLY revenge plots, not for whimps .. these keep their main theme as REVENGE, pure and simple!
they don't go "save the world, establish your SHITTY harem, problems with a fucked up romance comedy filth!"
if you can't take how SERIOUS these stories are, and how REVENGE focsued they are ..
then consider LEAVING the revenge genre altogether. it's not for you.
note: if you are going to bad mouth me, over redo of the healer, spare me your PETTY.. and don't bother even replying!
leave the revenge genre to those who understand it.

@amf85
Well it's good if you can sell the stuff you randomly get. If you want to sell your junk, it's better to just go in a city anyway (and to live in a city you need money somehow).

@groudonvert Yeah, maybe, depending on what he pulls. The metal and food waste he can sell to blacksmiths and farms.

Though your post raises a different question. It's hard to believe that the races don't have their own towns. Sure, some towns might be integrated, but most media has race/faction-specific territory. And before you say that humans aren't strong enough, there seems to be ample evidence we've already seen that the other races don't want humans around, so I think it makes even MORE sense for humans to have their own areas.

@amf85
To be honest, the introduction part of the anime is totally created by the anime, I have absolutely no idea where he met his party in the first place.
Not that it's a bad thing in my opinion, they show a bit of his past before the betrayal (also the fact he shared some relationship with the entire crew is quickly shown at some point. Like the dwarf showing him how to create a sword, the demon showing him how to eat properly, the dragonut accepting his cup of tea...).
About the faction and territorry, I won't dwell too much in that stuff, but I will just say that it's one of the most fucked-up world to live in as a human.