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Mar 17, 11:07 AM
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As you can see, you are looking at a thread about anime that is NOT marketed to Japanese audiences. It is exclusively aired on Toonami and Max. Is there any reason why this series is whitelisted from the same exact rule that keeps Scott Pilgrim's anime away from being in the database?
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Mar 17, 11:21 AM
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Nimja Kamui‘s studio is Japanese. Scott pilgrims isnt.
Mar 17, 11:25 AM
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Nimja Kamui‘s studio is Japanese. Scott pilgrims isnt.
@NatanaelAstra check again, science saru... currently producing an adaptation of Dandadan
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Zenbers said:
@NatanaelAstra check again, science saru... currently producing an adaptation of Dandadan

didthat show had japanese voice performance as original too?
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@NatanaelAstra check again, science saru... currently producing an adaptation of Dandadan

didthat show had japanese voice performance as original too?
@baymaxemon Not really sure, SPTO was released both in JP & EN dubs but that's not relevant. Even if it is, Ninja Kamui also released in both language

edit: if you're asking about Dandadan well of course, it's literally a japanese manga
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Because the target audience is anime fans I guess.
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Zenbers said:
@NatanaelAstra check again, science saru... currently producing an adaptation of Dandadan

Ok but most of the production is American. I‘m not gatekeeping you know. I wouldn’t mind Scott Pilgrim being on here. But I can see some difference by just looking on both wikipedia articles.
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I only followed the discussion a bit, from what I witnessed is that Japanese person(s) must have the decisive power over the project in order to be considered Anime here.
Apparently this wasn't the case with Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, but is probably the case with Ninja Kamui.

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I think, The native language for Scott pilgrim was Japanese meanwhile for Ninja Kamui, It's Japanese.
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scott pilgrim is recently added to anidb so mal might follow https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=2085220&id=70714370
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Ok but most of the production is American. I‘m not gatekeeping you know. I wouldn’t mind Scott Pilgrim being on here. But I can see some difference by just looking on both wikipedia articles.
Yea sorry if my typing sounded defensive.

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I only followed the discussion a bit, from what I witnessed is that Japanese person(s) must have the decisive power over the project in order to be considered Anime here.
Apparently this wasn't the case with Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, but is probably the case with Ninja Kamui.


I can see what you guys mean, the writer and producers were indeed from outside of Japan. However, the animation, sound, art, photography direction, and chara design, are all handled by Japanese staff (see Anilist) which cover almost all aspect of the end product.

And if that's still the case, then Edgerunner shouldn't be on MAL too since the IP literally belongs to CDPR.
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Not again xD


Dude....so many people where crying for it to be on here. Now, so many people want it gone.
There's no pleasing the MaL Community^^
Mar 17, 12:37 PM

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Not again xD


Dude....so many people where crying for it to be on here. Now, so many people want it gone.
There's no pleasing the MaL Community^^
@Merve2Love if you read properly, nobody is crying here. My first post genuinely asking for a legitimate answer by having a DISHCUHSHION.
Mar 17, 12:38 PM

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@Merve2Love if you read properly, nobody is crying here. My first post genuinely asking for a legitimate answer by having a DISHCUHSHION.
@Zenbers

Let it go^^ It's on here.
Let's move on with our lifes.
Mar 17, 12:42 PM

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@Zenbers

Let it go^^ It's on here.
Let's move on with our lifes.
@Merve2Love Well if you don't have anything to contribute in this discussion, just move along. Move on with your life.
Mar 17, 3:26 PM

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I'll give you a better one: why Scott Pilgrim STILL is not on MAL?) Start asking real questions
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Because the studio E&H Production is located in Nakano, Tokyo.
The director Park, Seong-Hu (who also directed JJK s1) and the animation team that worked on this are Japanese
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Biisoo said:
I think, The native language for Scott pilgrim was Japanese meanwhile for Ninja Kamui, It's Japanese.

in Netflix Scott pilgrim has english as the official audio
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@baymaxemon Not really sure, SPTO was released both in JP & EN dubs but that's not relevant. Even if it is, Ninja Kamui also released in both language

edit: if you're asking about Dandadan well of course, it's literally a japanese manga

spto in Netflix which is the only official distributor has english as the original audio, can you say that is anime if the english is the original audio?. sorry 4 the bad english
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ramiropuelles said:
Biisoo said:
I think, The native language for Scott pilgrim was Japanese meanwhile for Ninja Kamui, It's Japanese.

in Netflix Scott pilgrim has english as the official audio

I messed up writing that smh, I meant the other way around.
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Isn't Scott Pilgrim Canadian? The original content is probably the key factor.
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Isn't Scott Pilgrim Canadian? The original content is probably the key factor.

I don't think that's the case.
Super Crooks, being a comic and whose author is from the UK (I think) is on mal database.

maybe it's not about where the original content is but in which language is the original audio imo
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mikebz45 said:
Isn't Scott Pilgrim Canadian? The original content is probably the key factor.

I don't think that's the case.
Super Crooks, being a comic and whose author is from the UK (I think) is on mal database.

maybe it's not about where the original content is but in which language is the original audio imo

and the original audio is english according to Netflix the only official distributor.
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CirceOwO said:
mikebz45 said:
Isn't Scott Pilgrim Canadian? The original content is probably the key factor.

I don't think that's the case.
Super Crooks, being a comic and whose author is from the UK (I think) is on mal database.

maybe it's not about where the original content is but in which language is the original audio imo

Mark Millar does Marvel comics and Leinel Yu made Super Crooks with him. He's from the Philippines.
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my guess scott pilgrim isn't popular enough so they forgot
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E & H production is Japanese, there are several Japanese staffs working in this project. The director is Korean but based in Japan. The writer is Japanese.
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I’m still waiting for Castlevania to be added…
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Zenbers said:
As you can see, you are looking at a thread about anime that is NOT marketed to Japanese audiences. It is exclusively aired on Toonami and Max. Is there any reason why this series is whitelisted from the same exact rule that keeps Scott Pilgrim's anime away from being in the database?

who fkn cares, Karen?
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director of this anime is the same one as JJK S1, that makes it relevant, don't know much about the scott pilgrim tv series but it looks as much as an anime as invincible so i won't cry about it not being here.
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director of this anime is the same one as JJK S1, that makes it relevant, don't know much about the scott pilgrim tv series but it looks as much as an anime as invincible so i won't cry about it not being here.
@ropiel SPTO's director works for science saru and has handled a number of anime listed in MAL (see [url=https://myanimelist.net/people/51411/Abel_Góngora?q=abel%20g&cat=person]Abel[/url] )
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Not again xD


Dude....so many people where crying for it to be on here. Now, so many people want it gone.
There's no pleasing the MaL Community^^

I was JUST about to say this like werent ppl complaining like no tomorrow about this wasn’t listed on MAL and now they want it gone? You cant win with these ppl😭🤦🏽‍♂️😭
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Not again xD


Dude....so many people where crying for it to be on here. Now, so many people want it gone.
There's no pleasing the MaL Community^^

I was JUST about to say this like werent ppl complaining like no tomorrow about this wasn’t listed on MAL and now they want it gone? You cant win with these ppl😭🤦🏽‍♂️😭
@Treyv0n im sure its more of a deceptive questioning on why scott pilgrim anime is not on mal database
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@Treyv0n im sure its more of a deceptive questioning on why scott pilgrim anime is not on mal database

Ahhh I see but I see it more of a cartoon than anime (Ik anime and cartoon are the same but i ain’t calling looney tunes an anime💀💀💀)
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Not again xD


Dude....so many people where crying for it to be on here. Now, so many people want it gone.
There's no pleasing the MaL Community^^

I was JUST about to say this like werent ppl complaining like no tomorrow about this wasn’t listed on MAL and now they want it gone? You cant win with these ppl😭🤦🏽‍♂️😭
@Treyv0n @Merve2Love please quote a post where someone saying they want Ninja Kamui gone from MAL. All I ask is why Ninja Kamui is allowed but SPTO isn't. MAL guidelines are inconsistent.
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@ropiel SPTO's director works for science saru and has handled a number of anime listed in MAL (see [url=https://myanimelist.net/people/51411/Abel_Góngora?q=abel%20g&cat=person]Abel[/url] )
@Zenbers I guess it deserves its place here then i won't complain, did someone make a page and request to add it?
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@Zenbers I guess it deserves its place here then i won't complain, did someone make a page and request to add it?
@ropiel Attempts have been made: but you know... how persistent the admins are. thread 1 thread 2 thread 3
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@Treyv0n @Merve2Love please quote a post where someone saying they want Ninja Kamui gone from MAL. All I ask is why Ninja Kamui is allowed but SPTO isn't. MAL guidelines are inconsistent.

Just because you don’t follow what‘s going on, in the forums, doesn‘t mean we don‘t recognize this stuff, you know^^

Couple of weeks ago everybody was outraged that it maybe wouldn‘t be on MaL. Now it IS on here and we get Threads like yours.
That‘s all we‘re saying.

Whether you said something or not is irrelevant ^^ That‘s not the point. You‘re against it.

MaL-User demands are what’s inconsistent
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@Treyv0n @Merve2Love please quote a post where someone saying they want Ninja Kamui gone from MAL. All I ask is why Ninja Kamui is allowed but SPTO isn't. MAL guidelines are inconsistent.

Just because you don’t follow what‘s going on, in the forums, doesn‘t mean we don‘t recognize this stuff, you know^^

Couple of weeks ago everybody was outraged that it maybe wouldn‘t be on MaL. Now it IS on here and we get Threads like yours.
That‘s all we‘re saying.

Whether you said something or not is irrelevant ^^ That‘s not the point. You‘re against it.

MaL-User demands are what’s inconsistent
@Merve2Love Well YOU are assuming I'm against it. That's your problem. I am grateful that they put it on MAL. That aside, I do follow what's going on in the forum, I literally put one of the threads in my post talking about the attempt.
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Attempts have been made: but you know... how persistent the admins are. thread 1 thread 2 thread 3


The only thing I have a problem with is why are they so inconsistent with the rules. Now stop putting your delusional drama in other people's mouths. This is not twitter.
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MAL is so damn weird with international coproductions. I think someone at the top of the company just flips a coin to decide whether or not one belongs in the database.
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because the designation for anime is relatively arbitrary, and they decided on one that excluded scott pilgrim out of... artstyle dissonance? pettiness? cultural superiority? too narrow a worldview if you ask me.
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@Treyv0n @Merve2Love please quote a post where someone saying they want Ninja Kamui gone from MAL. All I ask is why Ninja Kamui is allowed but SPTO isn't. MAL guidelines are inconsistent.

Just because you don’t follow what‘s going on, in the forums, doesn‘t mean we don‘t recognize this stuff, you know^^

Couple of weeks ago everybody was outraged that it maybe wouldn‘t be on MaL. Now it IS on here and we get Threads like yours.
That‘s all we‘re saying.

Whether you said something or not is irrelevant ^^ That‘s not the point. You‘re against it.

MaL-User demands are what’s inconsistent
@Merve2Love Bro you being an @$$ for absolutely no reason, and being hypocritical at the same time! Your telling others to drop it and stop complaining while you regurgitate the SAME emotional complaint AND refuse to listen and learn something lol! 🤣 🧐

He shared his position respectfully and asked others for additional insight and answers. That's the RIGHT method when learning and trying to better understand something. Just an FYI 😤😉🧐😁
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Cus we all know MAL is being weird about it.

W Anilist for taking the initiative for Scott Pilgrim tho.
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ramiropuelles said:
CirceOwO said:

I don't think that's the case.
Super Crooks, being a comic and whose author is from the UK (I think) is on mal database.

maybe it's not about where the original content is but in which language is the original audio imo

and the original audio is english according to Netflix the only official distributor.

exactly that's my point, maybe because spto original audio is English it isn't considered an Anime by mal standards
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mikebz45 said:
CirceOwO said:

I don't think that's the case.
Super Crooks, being a comic and whose author is from the UK (I think) is on mal database.

maybe it's not about where the original content is but in which language is the original audio imo

Mark Millar does Marvel comics and Leinel Yu made Super Crooks with him. He's from the Philippines.

thanks for the info nwn/
but yeah since super crooks original language is japanese it's here on mal and spto isn't
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I’m still waiting for Castlevania to be added…
@jigjetty castlevania is a all American production so it’s not anime like Avatar the last air bender.

Scott Pilgrim And Ninja Kamui are animated by Japanese studios and directed by people who worked in the anime industry for years.
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All i know is that if it's made in japan by a Japanese studio then it's anime and it should be added in mal
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What shouldn't be allowed is having the protagonist as Logan Joe. That's just an episode 1-2 alias.
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I always find it humoring that the people always asking why or why not a non anime show is or isn’t on MAL barely watches anime to begin with. It’s like you guys want to bridge the gap between western media and eastern media so you can add every cartoon you’ve watched. I’ll give you an answer though. Adding Ninja Kamui isn’t that big of a deal, adding something like Scott Pilgrim would open a huge can of worms and make more trouble for admins than it’s worth. Hope that helps.
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I always find it humoring that the people always asking why or why not a non anime show is or isn’t on MAL barely watches anime to begin with. It’s like you guys want to bridge the gap between western media and eastern media so you can add every cartoon you’ve watched. I’ll give you an answer though. Adding Ninja Kamui isn’t that big of a deal, adding something like Scott Pilgrim would open a huge can of worms and make more trouble for admins than it’s worth. Hope that helps.
@TheHoodSenpai sounds more like "I am entitled and don't want any EUGH WESTERN CARTOONS on my holy Japanese cartoon website" but could be just me.
Also all "Scott Pilgrim is not anime" arguments are completely idiotic because 1) it's made in Japan by Japanese animators, deal with it already, 2) MAL has entries that are much more "problematic" and "questionable" than SP, so it's exactly double standards at work, 3) it was discussed TO DEATH already.

There's literally zero problem with adding more stuff to the site except five or so elitistic idiots will whine about it.
Btw I've seen more than enough anime so your argument kinda falls falt on the face. Less than you did, but manga is much superior anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Because MAL is arbitrary asf with this. They’ve done it to so many shows
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