Attack on Titan
| Tldr in the end. This is one the greatest plot twist I have ever witnessed in media. No I am not exaggerating. 1. This explains everything with SS from anime(most recommended): https://twitter.com/cactuzzshash/status/1487870221545357314 2. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/d1q0v9/manga_spoilers_the_complete_guide_to_chapter_121/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Another one if u want to read more This is the stuff u need to keep in mind: 1. AT can see future memories. 2. AOT's world is maybe deterministic and set in stone. 3. Eren quite possibly be involved in Carla's death(indirectly of course) as indicated by Grisha's words. 4. Eren was the one who started all of this. 5. This is a causal loop and can't be broken bc of AT's power or more so a curse. 6. Eren may quite possibly The Attack Titan and his will may quite possibly the The will of AT 7. Grisha saw something horrifying in future memories sent by Eren and that's why asked Zeke to stop eren. 8. Grisha can't see Eren and is experiencing everything from Eren's POV. If u give attention to the Grisha hugging zeke scene. Eren is behind Grisha bc of which Grisha is able to see zeke as Eren sent his future memories to grisha 9. Eren is trapped in this causal loop and a determined timeline. Quite ironic for someone who wanted to achieve Freedom. Ok now I am going to rewatch this again. |
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| Great post! Very helpful to anyone who's confused. |
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| I was abt to make a thread abt this, thanks for making it beforehand. Hats off to /u/skyclad_observer for making a guide for ch 121. Grisha is receiving eren's memories so the memories are from eren's Pov. When eren is looking at grisha, grisha is seeing himself in third person. |
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| Thank you for putting the thread together! |
dpar0527 said: Grisha can see himself through Eren's POV. See how when he hugged grisha Eren was behind grisha. Grisha saw the future memories of eren and zeke was standing there in eren's memories and that's how grisha knew Zeke was there. Grisha neither can actually see zeke nor he touched zekeQuestion: if the attack titan can see the future does that mean Grisha can see Erin watching him? (Not finished episode yet) But wouldn’t this also mean that he could see Erin watching him watch Erin and so on creating an infinat loop? |
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| Great post. It will help anyone who is still confused. |
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| Thanks for the thread, haven’t re-read the manga in a bit so I’ll use this to kinda clear everything up again :) |
adnan_ said: Tldr in the end. This is one the greatest plot twist I have ever witnessed in media. No I am not exaggerating. 1. This explains everything with SS from anime(most recommended): https://twitter.com/cactuzzshash/status/1487870221545357314 2. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/d1q0v9/manga_spoilers_the_complete_guide_to_chapter_121/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Another one if u want to read more This is the stuff u need to keep in mind: 1. AT can see future memories. 2. AOT's world is maybe deterministic and set in stone. 3. Eren quite possibly be involved in Carla's death(indirectly of course) as indicated by Grisha's words. 4. Eren was the one who started all of this. 5. This is a causal loop and can't be broken bc of AT's power or more so a curse. 6. Eren may quite possibly The Attack Titan and his will may quite possibly the The will of AT 7. Grisha saw something horrifying in future memories sent by Eren and that's why asked Zeke to stop eren. 8. Grisha can't see Eren and is experiencing everything from Eren's POV. If u give attention to the Grisha hugging zeke scene. Eren is behind Grisha bc of which Grisha is able to see zeke as Eren sent his future memories to grisha 9. Eren is trapped in this causal loop and a determined timeline. Quite ironic for someone who wanted to achieve Freedom. Ok now I am going to rewatch this again. Thank you very much for making this post. It really helped me to understand the timetravel, well it's really not a timetravel though only memories and consciousness of Eren is shared by Grisha. And ngl Attack On Titan is one of the easiest series that I can understand the concept of Timeline this easily |
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ok i think imma have to say it,if eren can felt everything grisha has felt through his memories,then that means eren has indirectly fricked his mom? |
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KAMISAMA_69_ said: ok i think imma have to say it,if eren can felt everything grisha has felt through his memories,then that means eren has indirectly fricked his mom? kinky right? im sure there will be a doujin for that |
| I just realised that eren instigated his birth. Kruger was advised by eren to say to grisha to have a family inside the walls. Then when grisha got the Attack Titan, eren led him to Clara. OMFG wtf is this story? |
Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth. Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime. |
adnan_ said: KAMISAMA_69_ said: Only if Grisha sent those memories to Eren. If Grisha didn't. The Eren can't see them.ok i think imma have to say it,if eren can felt everything grisha has felt through his memories,then that means eren has indirectly fricked his mom? Eren has the Attack Titan now so he should be able to see his father's memories. Every titan shifter is able to look through their previous holder's memories. |
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light_straight said: That's why I said Eren is the Attack Titan and his will is the will of Attack Titan. The attack titan has ‘always moved ahead, seeking freedom. it has fought on for freedom’. More than anything else the AT is Eren's nature manifested, his will and drive to keep moving forward and find freedom. through this we can see how it is Eren's will that transcends time all the way back to the first AT, just like how Kruger told Grisha to save ‘Mikasa, armin’. eg in this episode Grisha states all AT’s have been led to this memory, they’ve all fought to get here, a time where EREN directly influences the past in order to go against the king's ideology of submission. by holding both the founding/attack titan together & using Zeke as the key to unlocking the full power of the founder this path is made a possibility and then retroactively affects all attack titan holders throughout time.I just realised that eren instigated his birth. Kruger was advised by eren to say to grisha to have a family inside the walls. Then when grisha got the Attack Titan, eren led him to Clara. OMFG wtf is this story? Eren basically is the one who started this story. Remember he said in this episode to Grisha-"You are the one who started this story, Didn't you?" Its also true for Eren. Crazy stuff right? |
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troilus_05s said: Oh yh I forgot that. It does makes sense. Eren also saw Naked Frieda. Holy Shit!!!Eren has the Attack Titan now so he should be able to see his father's memories. Every titan shifter is able to look through their previous holder's memories. |
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adnan_ said: troilus_05s said: Oh yh I forgot that. It does makes sense. Eren also saw Naked Frieda. Holy Shit!!!Eren has the Attack Titan now so he should be able to see his father's memories. Every titan shifter is able to look through their previous holder's memories. Lucky Eren :P Or did he plan this too? Let's find out on the next episode of Attack on Titan! |
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adnan_ said: light_straight said: That's why I said Eren is the Attack Titan and his will is the will of Attack Titan. The attack titan has ‘always moved ahead, seeking freedom. it has fought on for freedom’. More than anything else the AT is Eren's nature manifested, his will and drive to keep moving forward and find freedom. through this we can see how it is Eren's will that transcends time all the way back to the first AT, just like how Kruger told Grisha to save ‘Mikasa, armin’. eg in this episode Grisha states all AT’s have been led to this memory, they’ve all fought to get here, a time where EREN directly influences the past in order to go against the king's ideology of submission. by holding both the founding/attack titan together & using Zeke as the key to unlocking the full power of the founder this path is made a possibility and then retroactively affects all attack titan holders throughout time.I just realised that eren instigated his birth. Kruger was advised by eren to say to grisha to have a family inside the walls. Then when grisha got the Attack Titan, eren led him to Clara. OMFG wtf is this story? Eren basically is the one who started this story. Remember he said in this episode to Grisha-"You are the one who started this story, Didn't you?" Its also true for Eren. Crazy stuff right? So it's the exact opposite from Founding Titan. Founding Titan can control it's inheritors. But eren has controlled basically every attack Titan in history, to get to this stage where he has both, and he's not bound by founder's will. Now I understand the memes. |
Anime was it's best 20000 years ago, when cavemen drew art with real depth. Modern anime is all garbage. I miss great old days of anime. |
| I actually thought the plot was pretty easy and simple. I understood everything I watched the first time on ep4. However, my roommates were confused. (FYI, they're normal people and not anime fans. Plus, normies don't use MAL.) It would be nice if there's a short youtube video less than 5min or max 10min which sum up what happened so far. |
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| Very nice and understandable explanation I also have a maybe dumb question, when eren punches dina fritz/ smiling titan why didn't get the memories then instead of when he kissed Historia's hand since they are both royal blood contact |
Bhaskar_Singh said: Yeah Grisha said"Eren why didn't u show me the memories of Carla's safety" which means Eren didn't give Grisha the memories of Carla's death. Bc if he did Grisha would have saved her and would have never given eren FT and AT as he gave it to him bc of his hatred for the outside world for Carla's death especially since he was not in the right mind as we can see from this ep. So eren did influence Carla's death but it's probably indirect as RBA is the perpetrator. He may also have done this to save Bert. as we can see Dina titan ignores Bert.Did you just say something about eren indirectly killing his mom? Fuck.... what is that? @adnan_ I dunno I am just going by the sense of the deterministic timeline and AT's curse |
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light_straight said: Yeah FT more importantly the royal blood of the walls were bounded by the vow to renounce war due to Karl fritz whereas AT managed to survive and stay away from royal blood influence bc of its power to see future and its will to keep moving forwardadnan_ said: That's why I said Eren is the Attack Titan and his will is the will of Attack Titan. The attack titan has ‘always moved ahead, seeking freedom. it has fought on for freedom’. More than anything else the AT is Eren's nature manifested, his will and drive to keep moving forward and find freedom. through this we can see how it is Eren's will that transcends time all the way back to the first AT, just like how Kruger told Grisha to save ‘Mikasa, armin’. eg in this episode Grisha states all AT’s have been led to this memory, they’ve all fought to get here, a time where EREN directly influences the past in order to go against the king's ideology of submission. by holding both the founding/attack titan together & using Zeke as the key to unlocking the full power of the founder this path is made a possibility and then retroactively affects all attack titan holders throughout time. Eren basically is the one who started this story. Remember he said in this episode to Grisha-"You are the one who started this story, Didn't you?" Its also true for Eren. Crazy stuff right? So it's the exact opposite from Founding Titan. Founding Titan can control it's inheritors. But eren has controlled basically every attack Titan in history, to get to this stage where he has both, and he's not bound by founder's will. Now I understand the memes. |
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ItzElite said: Bc grisha's memories still haven't triggered for him and the trigger to grisha's memory was basement revealVery nice and understandable explanation I also have a maybe dumb question, when eren punches dina fritz/ smiling titan why didn't get the memories then instead of when he kissed Historia's hand since they are both royal blood contact |
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ItzElite said: Very nice and understandable explanation I also have a maybe dumb question, when eren punches dina fritz/ smiling titan why didn't get the memories then instead of when he kissed Historia's hand since they are both royal blood contact Because Future Eren didn't send those memories earlier. He sent them when he kissed Historia's hand. |
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xkazutox said: I actually thought the plot was pretty easy and simple. I understood everything I watched the first time on ep4. However, my roommates were confused. (FYI, they're normal people and not anime fans. Plus, normies don't use MAL.) It would be nice if there's a short youtube video less than 5min or max 10min which sum up what happened so far. Are you saying weebs have a higher IQ than normies? |
troilus_05s said: Nah Eren inherited those memories from grisha whom he has already ate a long time ago. I think the trigger was 1. Basement reveal triggered Grisha's memoriesItzElite said: Very nice and understandable explanation I also have a maybe dumb question, when eren punches dina fritz/ smiling titan why didn't get the memories then instead of when he kissed Historia's hand since they are both royal blood contact Because Future Eren didn't send those memories earlier. He sent them when he kissed Historia's hand. 2. Historia hand kiss triggered this one bc sheis royal blood, reiss family |
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adnan_ said: troilus_05s said: Nah Eren inherited those memories from grisha whom he has already ate a long time ago. I think the trigger was 1. Basement reveal triggered Grisha's memoriesBecause Future Eren didn't send those memories earlier. He sent them when he kissed Historia's hand. 2. Historia hand kiss triggered this one bc sheis royal blood, reiss family Ah thanks, makes sense |
adnan_ said: troilus_05s said: Nah Eren inherited those memories from grisha whom he has already ate a long time ago. I think the trigger was 1. Basement reveal triggered Grisha's memoriesBecause Future Eren didn't send those memories earlier. He sent them when he kissed Historia's hand. 2. Historia hand kiss triggered this one bc sheis royal blood, reiss family Yeah, you are probably right. Historia having Royal Blood was the trigger. I agree with that. I will have to think for some minutes about the first point. |
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troilus_05s said: I think that's true bc Porco also only saw Marcel's memories about reiner only when Reiner(touching Eren who is FT) touched him. In the same way, Eren touching grisha's possession or at least the stuff related to Grisha's memories from the basement trigerred itadnan_ said: Nah Eren inherited those memories from grisha whom he has already ate a long time ago. I think the trigger was 1. Basement reveal triggered Grisha's memories 2. Historia hand kiss triggered this one bc sheis royal blood, reiss family Yeah, you are probably right. Historia having Royal Blood was the trigger. I agree with that. I will have to think for some minutes about the first point. |
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adnan_ said: troilus_05s said: I think that's true bc Porco also only saw Marcel's memories about reiner only when Reiner(touching Eren who is FT) touched him. In the same way, Eren touching grisha's possession or at least the stuff related to Grisha's memories from the basement trigerred itYeah, you are probably right. Historia having Royal Blood was the trigger. I agree with that. I will have to think for some minutes about the first point. Oh yeah, I agree with that. You are right. |
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| Hah, nice thread and surely it will be helpful for people who might've felt confused after seeing episode 4 of Season 4 Part 4, however I hope it won't become the nest for manga readers to share their headcanons and be mean to anime only fans to actually enjoy the show the way they like to. ;D |
CleanWhip said: I have some questions, what was Grishas plan? Why did he give eren the founding titan? Why did the first king hide behind the walls? What happened in the past that the king had to escape from Marley? And why is he controlling the of the Eldians? Why is Marley attacking Paradies? Why was the the royal family hiding? All of these questions have already been answered in S3 and S4 P1. Did you really watch the show? |
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adnan_ said: Just wanted to pop in and say that @adnan U r 100% right here! Like literally.Bhaskar_Singh said: Yeah Grisha said"Eren why didn't u show me the memories of Carla's safety" which means Eren didn't give Grisha the memories of Carla's death. Bc if he did Grisha would have saved her and would have never given eren FT and AT as he gave it to him bc of his hatred for the outside world for Carla's death especially since he was not in the right mind as we can see from this ep. So eren did influence Carla's death but it's probably indirect as RBA is the perpetrator. He may also have done this to save Bert. as we can see Dina titan ignores Bert.Did you just say something about eren indirectly killing his mom? Fuck.... what is that? @adnan_ I dunno I am just going by the sense of the deterministic timeline and AT's curse |
CleanWhip said: I have some questions, what was Grishas plan? Why did he give eren the founding titan? Why did the first king hide behind the walls? What happened in the past that the king had to escape from Marley? And why is he controlling the of the Eldians? Why is Marley attacking Paradies? Why was the the royal family hiding? >what was Grishas plan? Answered in Grisha's backstory in S3 P2 >Why did he give eren the founding titan? Bc he went mad after carla's death and just had the hatred for the outer world left inside him and since his titan curse time was coming to an end he gave it to eren to take revenge. This is the same as him coming to know about Faye's death. >Why did the first king hide behind the walls? What happened in the past that the king had to escape from Marley? And why is he controlling the of the Eldians? Why is Marley attacking Paradies? Why was the the royal family hiding? All of this is answered in S3 P1 Reiss cave scene and in Declaration of War episode. Rewatch them IMO |
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ItzElite said: Very nice and understandable explanation I also have a maybe dumb question, when eren punches dina fritz/ smiling titan why didn't get the memories then instead of when he kissed Historia's hand since they are both royal blood contact It was the founding titan’s equivalent of Eren awakening his titan powers when he was eaten in S1. It takes time to be proficient and use further powers. Remember the first AT use was involuntary and basic, no hardening either, which required training. It’s slower for the FT as its powers aren’t available on command/upon bleeding |
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adnan_ said: thanks mate, it was very helpfulTldr in the end. This is one the greatest plot twist I have ever witnessed in media. No I am not exaggerating. 1. This explains everything with SS from anime(most recommended): https://twitter.com/cactuzzshash/status/1487870221545357314 2. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/d1q0v9/manga_spoilers_the_complete_guide_to_chapter_121/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Another one if u want to read more This is the stuff u need to keep in mind: 1. AT can see future memories. 2. AOT's world is maybe deterministic and set in stone. 3. Eren quite possibly be involved in Carla's death(indirectly of course) as indicated by Grisha's words. 4. Eren was the one who started all of this. 5. This is a causal loop and can't be broken bc of AT's power or more so a curse. 6. Eren may quite possibly The Attack Titan and his will may quite possibly the The will of AT 7. Grisha saw something horrifying in future memories sent by Eren and that's why asked Zeke to stop eren. 8. Grisha can't see Eren and is experiencing everything from Eren's POV. If u give attention to the Grisha hugging zeke scene. Eren is behind Grisha bc of which Grisha is able to see zeke as Eren sent his future memories to grisha 9. Eren is trapped in this causal loop and a determined timeline. Quite ironic for someone who wanted to achieve Freedom. Ok now I am going to rewatch this again. |
| The Zeke, Eren and Sleeping Grisha scene was really well done during the episode, and it took me a while to spot the dynamics at play and why Grisha was able to see Zeke. As the Attack Titan can glimpse into the future of it's successors, when future Eren looks down at the picture of Grisha, Dina and Zeke on the table, Grisha sees the same image through Eren's POV behind him triggering him to apologize to Zeke. Future Eren then looks at Zeke, and Grisha jumps up and sees Zeke standing in the room. He understands he's looking at his son through the eyes of Eren and passes it off as a dream. Eren doesn't understand what is going on at this point either but quickly figures it out. |
| This was a great explanation. Still too much for me to comprehend, some things are still not clear to me even after watching the episode twice and reading tons of threads on both MAL and Reddit lol. Gonna watch the episode a 3rd time now and maybe re-visit this thread. But before that- How can one be sure that Eren is the last AT? Someone in this thread said that Eren is the last AT and that he has no memories of the future person to see. So is he just seeing his future self's memories? Please answer only if you are an anime only. Felt kinda bad when I learned about how Eren had a hand in Carla's death :( Kinda sad that adult Eren isn't even willing to save Carla, for whatever reason he just doesn't care about sacrificing anyone. So ironic for our "free" MC where he doesn't even have a will of his own. IDK what his future self is showing him, but Eren has become pretty much dead inside. The explanation of how the past AT holder's decision was influenced by Eren was so good, this really is the peak story telling. Eren basically instructed his dad through Kruger to have a kid inside the walls. The AT just keeps moving forward, but where to? What would have happened if the adult Eren hadn't triggered Grisha to steal the FT? I wish I could have poured as much effort that I am in understanding this in my uni. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
TsutanaiFuun said: This was a great explanation. Still too much for me to comprehend, some things are still not clear to me even after watching the episode twice and reading tons of threads on both MAL and Reddit lol. Gonna watch the episode a 3rd time now and maybe re-visit this thread. But before that- How can one be sure that Eren is the last AT? Someone in this thread said that Eren is the last AT and that he has no memories of the future person to see. So is he just seeing his future self's memories? Please answer only if you are an anime only. Felt kinda bad when I learned about how Eren had a hand in Carla's death :( Kinda sad that adult Eren isn't even willing to save Carla, for whatever reason he just doesn't care about sacrificing anyone. So ironic for our "free" MC where he doesn't even have a will of his own. IDK what his future self is showing him, but Eren has become pretty much dead inside. The explanation of how the past AT holder's decision was influenced by Eren was so good, this really is the peak story telling. Eren basically instructed his dad through Kruger to have a kid inside the walls. The AT just keeps moving forward, but where to? What would have happened if the adult Eren hadn't triggered Grisha to steal the FT? I wish I could have poured as much effort that I am in understanding this in my uni. 1. Bc at least till now we didn't see any future memories from any other person past eren. Eren is also the Attack Titan and his will is AT's will. As explained in the guide so it makes sense for him to be the last AT. 2. I agree 3. AT keeps moving forward to freedom as Kruger said. Eren is also moving forward for freedom. So the answer is Freedom. 4. That's impossible bc AoT's timeline is pre-determined and everything is set in stone as Grisha says in the episode. Since Eren can see the future, he has the burden of AT's curse where he has to take actions that result in the path we are in. I am speculating AoT's world is compatibilistic since it's BECAUSE of Eren's free will that he is going through everything and is trying to achieve something which is still a mystery for us. |
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adnan_ said: Thank you again for explaining, I appreciate it.TsutanaiFuun said: This was a great explanation. Still too much for me to comprehend, some things are still not clear to me even after watching the episode twice and reading tons of threads on both MAL and Reddit lol. Gonna watch the episode a 3rd time now and maybe re-visit this thread. But before that- How can one be sure that Eren is the last AT? Someone in this thread said that Eren is the last AT and that he has no memories of the future person to see. So is he just seeing his future self's memories? Please answer only if you are an anime only. Felt kinda bad when I learned about how Eren had a hand in Carla's death :( Kinda sad that adult Eren isn't even willing to save Carla, for whatever reason he just doesn't care about sacrificing anyone. So ironic for our "free" MC where he doesn't even have a will of his own. IDK what his future self is showing him, but Eren has become pretty much dead inside. The explanation of how the past AT holder's decision was influenced by Eren was so good, this really is the peak story telling. Eren basically instructed his dad through Kruger to have a kid inside the walls. The AT just keeps moving forward, but where to? What would have happened if the adult Eren hadn't triggered Grisha to steal the FT? I wish I could have poured as much effort that I am in understanding this in my uni. 1. Bc at least till now we didn't see any future memories from any other person past eren. Eren is also the Attack Titan and his will is AT's will. As explained in the guide so it makes sense for him to be the last AT. 2. I agree 3. AT keeps moving forward to freedom as Kruger said. Eren is also moving forward for freedom. So the answer is Freedom. 4. That's impossible bc AoT's timeline is pre-determined and everything is set in stone as Grisha says in the episode. Since Eren can see the future, he has the burden of AT's curse where he has to take actions that result in the path we are in. I am speculating AoT's world is compatibilistic since it's BECAUSE of Eren's free will that he is going through everything and is trying to achieve something which is still a mystery for us. |
The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
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