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Oct 25, 2019 9:29 AM
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Are they going to ignore the events prior of Alternative? How is that supposed to work for anime only viewers?




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Oct 26, 2019 10:27 AM
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AdrianRubinsky said:
Are they going to ignore the events prior of Alternative? How is that supposed to work for anime only viewers?





Not sure either. Probably they'll do some flashbacks or they will cover these events roughly, but that still won't be enough. Only age knows, I guess?
Oct 26, 2019 4:34 PM
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They should delete the synopsis, it's a very big spoiler for people that haven't played it.
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Im quite happy this is getting animated, it should not be ignored AT ALL, and if even it doesnt have a point for anime only viewers, for us, fans does have A LOT of meaning
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I agree, it is a very important plot point Takeru dicked all the girls in all the other timelines.

That and y'know, the proper buildup to all the important events.



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AdrianRubinsky said:
Are they going to ignore the events prior of Alternative? How is that supposed to work for anime only viewers?


Yeah, I feel like skipping Unlimited takes a lot away from Alternative. And it's hard to imagine Unlimited being anywhere near as interesting without going through Extra first. Although I'm of the opinion Unlimited is vastly underrated, so I may be biased. Here's to hoping it turns out okay.
Nov 10, 2019 6:04 AM
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Yeah, I feel like skipping Unlimited takes a lot away from Alternative. And it's hard to imagine Unlimited being anywhere near as interesting without going through Extra first. Although I'm of the opinion Unlimited is vastly underrated, so I may be biased. Here's to hoping it turns out okay.


There is no bias when the Alternative...

They could fast forward Extra (it's a complete garbage anyway) but it is impossible to pretend it never existed... Unlimited is much more tricky...

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im interested on this since its highly praise like it reminds me of how much Evangelion is praise too

its even a huge influence to Attack on Titan i heard too

but ye i also want a complete adaptation and not just the ending arc
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It's probably intended to be complimentary to those who have already read Muv Luv.
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The best way they can handle Extra is by using flashbacks or doing a sort of "Episode 0" type thing like in Total Eclipse.

Actually they can do Unlimited then have the jump and use a montage to get to where the divergence happens in Alt. Takes care of both of those at once, and again Extra can be a sort of prologue via flash backs or something. It deviates from source to a degree but can't have it all perfect and I'd rather they spend budget on Alt instead anyways.

I'm already just happy to get more anime adaptions of Muv-Luv. I've been hoping for some TDA adaptions since SM was fairly good.
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The best way they can handle Extra is by using flashbacks or doing a sort of "Episode 0" type thing like in Total Eclipse.

Actually they can do Unlimited then have the jump and use a montage to get to where the divergence happens in Alt. Takes care of both of those at once, and again Extra can be a sort of prologue via flash backs or something. It deviates from source to a degree but can't have it all perfect and I'd rather they spend budget on Alt instead anyways.

I'm already just happy to get more anime adaptions of Muv-Luv. I've been hoping for some TDA adaptions since SM was fairly good.


This is probably what they'll do, but it'll still lose all of the impact. Extra is important to Unlimited because we've seen Takerus daily life and we understand his struggle to get it back. And Unlimited is important to Alternative because Takeru now has seen the end of the world and he's a completely different guy, so we can emphasize with Takeru because we know of his origin.

Aside from the fact that anime onlys won't understand why we all praise Muv Luv Alternative so much, I'm extremly excited to see it all animated!
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They can do some flashbacks in the beginning. Extra (especially) and to a lesser extent Unlimited are pretty weak, I don't think adapting them completely would be smart. Most anime fans would probably drop it.

I hope they adapt Muv Luv Alternative well, thats the best VN ever
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What is this?

They should continue the total eclipse.
Why the hell they made another?
Previous adaptation still no progress and here we are another series.


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I enjoyed Alternative. Will this be the same character and plot or different?

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I'm curious how much are they going to ruin it. I'm so glad I played the VN and enjoyed its whole beauty.
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so the characters are different than the last one? I don't play the visual novel I only know the anime and it's spin off anime
Oct 25, 2020 7:47 AM

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scout_joe said:
so the characters are different than the last one? I don't play the visual novel I only know the anime and it's spin off anime


Muv-Luv Alternative is Part 3 of the Muv-Luv novel. 1st part is Extra and 2nd is Unlimited.

Other Muv-Luv animes are actually spin-offs from this.

Luuji222 said:
What is this?

They should continue the total eclipse.
Why the hell they made another?
Previous adaptation still no progress and here we are another series.

Fans were begging to adapt the original series since the beginning, and now they got it. There was always very little interest for Total Eclipse and other spin-offs. They are very inferior compared with the original.
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Luuji222 said:
What is this?

They should continue the total eclipse.
Why the hell they made another?
Previous adaptation still no progress and here we are another series.


>Nooo why are they adapting the best one in the series. Should've continued the garbage fire called TE.

No joke though, the quality difference between Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken is just astounding.
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AdrianRubinsky said:
Are they going to ignore the events prior of Alternative? How is that supposed to work for anime only viewers?



There was an interview with Kouki at the beginning of the year.



I hope things haven't changed since then, because it could be a great anime if they go with this kind of adaptation. Also, you can read the full interview here (spoilers, obviously).
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Are they going to ignore the events prior of Alternative? How is that supposed to work for anime only viewers?



There was an interview with Kouki at the beginning of the year.



I hope things haven't changed since then, because it could be a great anime if they go with this kind of adaptation. Also, you can read the full interview here (spoilers, obviously).


I'm not sure going for Marimo's POV as a prequel and then changing to Takeru will do any good. The MC popping out of nowhere later on will be weird.

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I'm not sure going for Marimo's POV as a prequel and then changing to Takeru will do any good.




And what if it won't be Takeru's POV? I think the anime would be interesting if we'd get a Yuuko POV for the Alternative events. Or Meiya's POV for that matter

Also, Total Eclipse had a POV change, and I think it wasn't bad or jarring.
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honestly who knows i wanna play the VN, its like one of the best i heard
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Gotta trust Yoshimune-san on that one, but with all the following Muv-Luv has gathered since the kickstarter you can bet your ass that there will be good money invested in this anime. Heck, that last PV has far surpassed my expectations even if it's CG.

I'm glad that they're aware of the challenge that consists of adapting Alternative alone. They seem to have good ideas of how to do it without the buildup of Extra and Unlimited. Flashbacks could be a thing, but can you even get people to be invested in the characters this way? Tenjou Tenge tried this and it somewhat failed...

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I Can say i didn't even read Unlimited and Extra. Only Alternative and worked fine. Just google a little but not much I think flashback was good enough. Also I was a Sumika team anyway hahaha. Like there was only "one" route in Alternative.
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AdrianRubinsky said:
scout_joe said:
so the characters are different than the last one? I don't play the visual novel I only know the anime and it's spin off anime


Muv-Luv Alternative is Part 3 of the Muv-Luv novel. 1st part is Extra and 2nd is Unlimited.

Other Muv-Luv animes are actually spin-offs from this.

Luuji222 said:
What is this?

They should continue the total eclipse.
Why the hell they made another?
Previous adaptation still no progress and here we are another series.

Fans were begging to adapt the original series since the beginning, and now they got it. There was always very little interest for Total Eclipse and other spin-offs. They are very inferior compared with the original.
so maybe this be good?


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Luuji222 said:
AdrianRubinsky said:


Muv-Luv Alternative is Part 3 of the Muv-Luv novel. 1st part is Extra and 2nd is Unlimited.

Other Muv-Luv animes are actually spin-offs from this.


Fans were begging to adapt the original series since the beginning, and now they got it. There was always very little interest for Total Eclipse and other spin-offs. They are very inferior compared with the original.
so maybe this be good?

The adaptation is being handled by the original creator and the VN company who said it will probably be multiple seasons to have enough time to tell the story. It seems they know the landmine field they are in and decided to take full control. So yea.... maybe this VN adaptation will work.

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AdrianRubinsky said:
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so maybe this be good?

The adaptation is being handled by the original creator and the VN company who said it will probably be multiple seasons to have enough time to tell the story. It seems they know the landmine field they are in and decided to take full control. So yea.... maybe this VN adaptation will work.

better they focus more on the story and char-development since the action thing is not that hype cuz they relying so much on CG which is kind disappointing


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Ok so I'm confused. I originally watched Muv Luv Alternative and it was great. Steam then got Muv Luv Extra, Unlimited and Alternative VNs which I've been working through.

Where does this tie into it all? Like a break down of order to read/play/watch? Is Total Eclipse essentially stand alone?



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Ok so I'm confused. I originally watched Muv Luv Alternative and it was great. Steam then got Muv Luv Extra, Unlimited and Alternative VNs which I've been working through.

Where does this tie into it all? Like a break down of order to read/play/watch? Is Total Eclipse essentially stand alone?


It' pretty simple. There is the main trilogy, which is extra/unlimited and alternative. Then there are the spin offs, which are Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken. And there are the side stories(Photonmelodies, photonflowers, etc). As for playing order, play the main trilogy first then you can play/watch whichever you want after that.
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Ok so I'm confused. I originally watched Muv Luv Alternative and it was great. Steam then got Muv Luv Extra, Unlimited and Alternative VNs which I've been working through.

Where does this tie into it all? Like a break down of order to read/play/watch? Is Total Eclipse essentially stand alone?


It' pretty simple. There is the main trilogy, which is extra/unlimited and alternative. Then there are the spin offs, which are Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken. And there are the side stories(Photonmelodies, photonflowers, etc). As for playing order, play the main trilogy first then you can play/watch whichever you want after that.


So this anime isn't relevant to anything at all?



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It' pretty simple. There is the main trilogy, which is extra/unlimited and alternative. Then there are the spin offs, which are Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken. And there are the side stories(Photonmelodies, photonflowers, etc). As for playing order, play the main trilogy first then you can play/watch whichever you want after that.


So this anime isn't relevant to anything at all?
The Anime is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy’, Muv Luv Alternative. It’s also considered one of the greatest visual novels of all time, which is why the hype is high for it. I’m about half way through it now after binging the first two parts over the last couple of weeks. Firstly, the VN is living up to expectations lol. secondly I have no idea how they’re going to handle this without Extra and Unlimited. Extra really makes the drama in Alternative hit home. Hopefully it’s just called Alternative for marketing purposes but it covers both Extra and Unlimited as well.
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Tell me what visual novel or content I had to consume before diving into this
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So this anime isn't relevant to anything at all?
The Anime is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy’, Muv Luv Alternative. It’s also considered one of the greatest visual novels of all time, which is why the hype is high for it. I’m about half way through it now after binging the first two parts over the last couple of weeks. Firstly, the VN is living up to expectations lol. secondly I have no idea how they’re going to handle this without Extra and Unlimited. Extra really makes the drama in Alternative hit home. Hopefully it’s just called Alternative for marketing purposes but it covers both Extra and Unlimited as well.


If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD



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The Anime is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy’, Muv Luv Alternative. It’s also considered one of the greatest visual novels of all time, which is why the hype is high for it. I’m about half way through it now after binging the first two parts over the last couple of weeks. Firstly, the VN is living up to expectations lol. secondly I have no idea how they’re going to handle this without Extra and Unlimited. Extra really makes the drama in Alternative hit home. Hopefully it’s just called Alternative for marketing purposes but it covers both Extra and Unlimited as well.


If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
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Anyone who watches this before reading the VN is doing themselves a major disservice
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ParsleyParsnips said:


If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
Schwarzesmarken



Ah that makes more sense now. Tho I did enjoy Total Eclipse and got me into the franchise. I'm trying to get myself through Extra.. bit too eh for me, waiting for the action in Unlimited/Alternative myself.



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ParsleyParsnips said:
AdrianRubinsky said:


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
Schwarzesmarken



Ah that makes more sense now. Tho I did enjoy Total Eclipse and got me into the franchise. I'm trying to get myself through Extra.. bit too eh for me, waiting for the action in Unlimited/Alternative myself.
I just finished Alternative just now, it also took me a while to get through extra but your patience will be rewarded. Now that I’ve finished all three, I guess I’m going to be the weird one and say Unlimited was my favorite. Alternative was great, but the pacing is pretty terrible at the 30 percent mark. Now that I’m done with it, I’m actually more excited about the anime. alternative is in desperate need of an editor and having someone go through it and remove alone of the fluff can make for a much better paced story.
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AdrianRubinsky said:
ParsleyParsnips said:


If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
Schwarzesmarken


Don't forget "A Shimmering Shard of Spacetime" (Altered Fable/Photonmelodies). It is the official epilogue to the trilogy and a much needed soothing lotion for after Alternative butt rapes your heart.
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AdrianRubinsky said:


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
Schwarzesmarken


Don't forget "A Shimmering Shard of Spacetime" (Altered Fable/Photonmelodies). It is the official epilogue to the trilogy and a much needed soothing lotion for after Alternative butt rapes your heart.


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AdrianRubinsky said:
ParsleyParsnips said:


If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


What was Total Eclipse? Something I would recommend you to forget.

Original/Canon/Whatever you may call it:
Muv Luv Extra (Part 1)
Muv Luv Unlimited (Part 2)
Muv Luv Alternative (Part 3) <<< You are in this anime discussion forum


What you should label as spin off (or a bad attempt at making a little money on the side with fans):

Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse (Yes, they used the name Muv Luv Alternative as a bait, but the story is not related)
Schwarzesmarken


To be fair, Total Eclipse has a huge affect on the main operation for Alternative. So it's not completely unrelated.
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As a relatively new person to the franchise (I've only watched total eclipse prior) this is getting beyond annoying. Why dont they anime the first games first? They keep releasing things in such a strange order that is damaging the franchise imo. I really like the universe from what I've seen of TE but making me go back to try the other games that is possibly 100's of hours is turning me off and I will not watch this... whoever is in charge of these decisions should be sent packing.

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This is really suck... Muv-luv Alternative no doubt the best part of the series but if they introduce it right off the bat it'd make audience confuse wtf is going on. I doubt they can fully convey the message of Alternative giving the sheer length of lore and build-up of its. I mean they did this series dirty by only 12 episode how is that enough for fan let only anime viewers to know how epic the battle of Sadogashima the desperate of Beta taking over Yokohama Base and the fierce and suicide final battle.
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This is really suck... Muv-luv Alternative no doubt the best part of the series but if they introduce it right off the bat it'd make audience confuse wtf is going on. I doubt they can fully convey the message of Alternative giving the sheer length of lore and build-up of its. I mean they did this series dirty by only 12 episode how is that enough for fan let only anime viewers to know how epic the battle of Sadogashima the desperate of Beta taking over Yokohama Base and the fierce and suicide final battle.


I'm just think this anime existance is just extension of PTSD effect of Muv Luv. To let Muv Luv fans suffer a bit more.
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NhtDesu said:
This is really suck... Muv-luv Alternative no doubt the best part of the series but if they introduce it right off the bat it'd make audience confuse wtf is going on. I doubt they can fully convey the message of Alternative giving the sheer length of lore and build-up of its. I mean they did this series dirty by only 12 episode how is that enough for fan let only anime viewers to know how epic the battle of Sadogashima the desperate of Beta taking over Yokohama Base and the fierce and suicide final battle.


I'm just think this anime existance is just extension of PTSD effect of Muv Luv. To let Muv Luv fans suffer a bit more.


Let's just hope they don't f*ck the storyline up like the promised neverland ss2. That is all I can said at this point
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ParsleyParsnips said:
If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


Total Eclipse is in the Alternative timeline of the original trilogy, and is a spinoff set in that timeline. It will eventually converge with a certain moment in the original trilogy, but not a story breaking retcon, as characters won't meet.

Meta: Age was trying to revitalise itself using an anime adaptation (which worked, now the franchise got new fans), while advertising their upcoming visual novel for Total Eclipse.
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If this is an adaptation of the third part of the trilogy then what was Total Eclipse? It's all very confusing. xD


Total Eclipse is in the Alternative timeline of the original trilogy, and is a spinoff set in that timeline. It will eventually converge with a certain moment in the original trilogy, but not a story breaking retcon, as characters won't meet.

Meta: Age was trying to revitalise itself using an anime adaptation (which worked, now the franchise got new fans), while advertising their upcoming visual novel for Total Eclipse.


I think you mean upcoming English release of Total Eclipse. I know it's not something to mention, just that we still don't know when the English release it going to be out. Just like Integrate and Resonative. ( ._.)\
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Total Eclipse is in the Alternative timeline of the original trilogy, and is a spinoff set in that timeline. It will eventually converge with a certain moment in the original trilogy, but not a story breaking retcon, as characters won't meet.

Meta: Age was trying to revitalise itself using an anime adaptation (which worked, now the franchise got new fans), while advertising their upcoming visual novel for Total Eclipse.


I think you mean upcoming English release of Total Eclipse. I know it's not something to mention, just that we still don't know when the English release it going to be out. Just like Integrate and Resonative. ( ._.)


No, I meant the time period around Total Eclipse's anime adaptation. There were novels, but the finale's on the then upcoming visual novel released after the anime. More or less same with Schwarzesmarken. It's the same every time.
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