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Mar 20, 2015 3:56 AM
#1
Why do you many people hate mainstream anime? What're your thoughts on people who hate it just for being mainstream? |
TyrelMar 5, 2016 4:51 PM
Mar 20, 2015 3:59 AM
#2
So even if I rate it a 6/10 and offer valid criticisms of the show, I'm creating the toxicity? LMFAO holy shit dude, stop acting so oppressed. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:01 AM
#4
Okay. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:03 AM
#5
I wonder how many threads will pop up about this show :D |
Mar 20, 2015 4:03 AM
#6
Mar 20, 2015 4:04 AM
#7
seems there are more hating threads ranting about how they hate it though |
Mar 20, 2015 4:04 AM
#8
Mar 20, 2015 4:05 AM
#9
Shitposta said: So even if I rate it a 6/10 and offer valid criticisms of the show, I'm creating the toxicity? LMFAO holy shit dude, stop acting so oppressed. never said rating it down is toxic, just said not watching it and calling it overhyped is. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:05 AM
#10
sourteeth said: seems there are more hating threads ranting about how they hate it though You can always ignore them. Never take the anime community seriously. I don't like the hate threads either, but a keyboard warrior style rant? Here's where you'll be laughed at, dude. And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that. Admit it, it's overhyped, you can't control what's hyped and what's not. Tens of thousands of people can, though. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:10 AM
#11
Shitposta said: You can always ignore them. Never take the anime community seriously. I don't like the hate threads either, but a keyboard warrior style rant? Here's where you'll be laughed at, dude. And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that. Admit it, it's overhyped, you can't control what's hyped and what's not. Tens of thousands of people can, though. nah keyboard warrior would be like " you tards are wrong, fight me for it!" |
Mar 20, 2015 4:12 AM
#12
sourteeth said: Shitposta said: You can always ignore them. Never take the anime community seriously. I don't like the hate threads either, but a keyboard warrior style rant? Here's where you'll be laughed at, dude. And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that. Admit it, it's overhyped, you can't control what's hyped and what's not. Tens of thousands of people can, though. nah keyboard warrior would be like " you tards are wrong, fight me for it!" Then try not to make foolish OPs with caps lock, makes you look beyond upset. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:13 AM
#13
Aw boo hoo, go cry me a river like the characters in your shitty melodramatic Chinese Cartoon. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:14 AM
#14
Chelizzle said: Good |
Mar 20, 2015 4:21 AM
#16
F0XFIRE said: Aw boo hoo, go cry me a river like the characters in your shitty melodramatic Chinese Cartoon. boo hoo, want me to cry two rivers? |
Mar 20, 2015 4:24 AM
#17
You can never please the people from the West because they don't know the culture of the East. I short they can't have a feel for It. That's cultural differences for you. But if you are also from a Western Culture and rated this high, It's just because you got feels for it. (You had understand it.) Because Western people like Cartoons more than Anime. And man if there's a forum/site to rate US T.V. Shows they will rate G.O.T. a 11/10 score. |
Haters always gonna hate. But they are all dumb asses who always love to bother unnecessarily. "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy." |
Mar 20, 2015 4:28 AM
#18
Rayzer said: You can never please the people from the West because they don't know the culture of the East. I short they can't have a feel for It. That's cultural differences for you. But if you are also from a Western Culture and rated this high, It's just because you got feels for it. (You had understand it.) Because Western people like Cartoons more than Anime. And man if there's a forum/site to rate US T.V. Shows they will rate G.O.T. a 11/10 score. As someone who was raised in an Eastern culture I can assure you that this statement is bogus. People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:30 AM
#19
Rayzer said: You can never please the people from the West because they don't know the culture of the East. I short they can't have a feel for It. That's cultural differences for you. But if you are also from a Western Culture and rated this high, It's just because you got feels for it. (You had understand it.) Because Western people like Cartoons more than Anime. And man if there's a forum/site to rate US T.V. Shows they will rate G.O.T. a 11/10 score. Everyone on Myanimelist who dislikes Shigatsu didn't like it because of cultural differences and because they prefer cartoons, is that what you're saying? I have my doubts that's it. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:31 AM
#20
Mar 20, 2015 4:31 AM
#21
Insertanamehere said: Rayzer said: You can never please the people from the West because they don't know the culture of the East. I short they can't have a feel for It. That's cultural differences for you. But if you are also from a Western Culture and rated this high, It's just because you got feels for it. (You had understand it.) Because Western people like Cartoons more than Anime. And man if there's a forum/site to rate US T.V. Shows they will rate G.O.T. a 11/10 score. Everyone on Myanimelist who dislikes Shigatsu didn't like it because of cultural differences and because they prefer cartoons, is that what you're saying? I have my doubts that's it. Ugh, he's just another fanboy who probably will act all high and mighty because he got feels from this show... Ignore him until he's run out of gas =_= |
Mar 20, 2015 4:39 AM
#22
Shitposta said: People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. And as someone who lives in the Western World... So you are saying cultural differences doesn't have anything to do with someone's perspective? I'm telling you there are many difference on a how Western Culture to how attractive a Man/Woman/Place/Thing are compared to Eastern Culture. |
Haters always gonna hate. But they are all dumb asses who always love to bother unnecessarily. "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy." |
Mar 20, 2015 4:42 AM
#23
chat77 said: Shitposta said: So even if I rate it a 6/10 and offer valid criticisms of the show, I'm creating the toxicity? LMFAO holy shit dude, stop acting so oppressed. ^this BruceLad said: Chelizzle said: Good yes |
Mar 20, 2015 4:46 AM
#24
Rayzer said: Shitposta said: People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. And as someone who lives in the Western World... So you are saying cultural differences doesn't have anything to do with someone's perspective? I'm telling you there are many difference on a how Western Culture to how attractive a Man/Woman/Place/Thing are compared to Eastern Culture. My second point still stands that only an individual decides what he or she likes and dislikes. No anime fans are in tribes except the ones who claim they are. In fact, I'm giving you the Eastern philosophy of preference in entertainment, you make up your own rationale, not anyone else. Eastern take on entertainment is also an irrelevant concept, it's almost entirely individual to have preferences in entertainment except those who claim they're being influenced by others/are in a tribe that expects them to think so. Aforementioned concepts East vs West takes on entertainment media are ludicrous and nonsense anyways. |
Mar 20, 2015 4:54 AM
#25
Shitposta said: Rayzer said: Shitposta said: People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. And as someone who lives in the Western World... So you are saying cultural differences doesn't have anything to do with someone's perspective? I'm telling you there are many difference on a how Western Culture to how attractive a Man/Woman/Place/Thing are compared to Eastern Culture. My second point still stands that only an individual decides what he or she likes and dislikes. No anime fans are in tribes except the ones who claim they are. In fact, I'm giving you the Eastern philosophy of preference in entertainment, you make up your own rationale, not anyone else. Eastern take on entertainment is also an irrelevant concept, it's almost entirely individual to have preferences in entertainment except those who claim they're being influenced by others/are in a tribe that expects them to think so. Aforementioned concepts East vs West takes on entertainment media are ludicrous and nonsense anyways. Man why are you always ignoring the fact about Cultural Difference. According to your profile you are from Seattle and makes you a guy from the West. Go find a guy/people who was from the Eastern Culture (Asian) and ask anything about how they view the world. If ever you still ignore about Culture just go and read what was it. |
Haters always gonna hate. But they are all dumb asses who always love to bother unnecessarily. "Spread the Hate, Spread the Idiocy." |
Mar 20, 2015 5:09 AM
#26
Rayzer said: Shitposta said: Rayzer said: Shitposta said: People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. And as someone who lives in the Western World... So you are saying cultural differences doesn't have anything to do with someone's perspective? I'm telling you there are many difference on a how Western Culture to how attractive a Man/Woman/Place/Thing are compared to Eastern Culture. My second point still stands that only an individual decides what he or she likes and dislikes. No anime fans are in tribes except the ones who claim they are. In fact, I'm giving you the Eastern philosophy of preference in entertainment, you make up your own rationale, not anyone else. Eastern take on entertainment is also an irrelevant concept, it's almost entirely individual to have preferences in entertainment except those who claim they're being influenced by others/are in a tribe that expects them to think so. Aforementioned concepts East vs West takes on entertainment media are ludicrous and nonsense anyways. Man why are you always ignoring the fact about Cultural Difference. According to your profile you are from Seattle and makes you a guy from the West. Go find a guy/people who was from the Eastern Culture (Asian) and ask anything about how they view the world. If ever you still ignore about Culture just go and read what was it. 1. Because it doesn't exist, or if it exists, it's very shallow in structure 2. No shit, sherlock. But I'm also Korean-born, so I know my shit. And about anime? Give me a break. Not everyone in the East had the same "Feels" you did. I'm pretty sure there's a vocal minority there as well. Just go to 2ch or any Japanese anime community, I'm sure we'll see people disagree here and there. No one's entirely in unison, God it's like you're telling me a bunch of bullshit I'm "supposed to know" from your pretentious self glorifying Eastern take over Western take. And hey, guess what, you're in the majority for having the "Feels" nothing more. 3. I'm right here. 4. I already know about it. lmfao, you're so misguided it's sad. I'm this close to saying your posts make you seem like a total weeaboo. |
Mar 20, 2015 5:11 AM
#27
Just snobs who don't get attention irl so they have to vent online to get some reactions. |
Mar 20, 2015 5:13 AM
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Mar 20, 2015 5:14 AM
#29
they're upset because things end up ranking higher than their favorite shitty anime or they just have "superior tastes" ayyyy lmao |
:3 |
Mar 20, 2015 5:18 AM
#30
Liking mainstream anime is even more mainstream though. |
No validation, no applause You don't have prove you got it when you know it's yours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSKDIcpdSE |
Mar 20, 2015 5:30 AM
#31
even tho i rated it 8/10 it was a great story and animation and blah blah but it was boring sometimes, and i did not feel excitement or sad. however its a matter of taste. |
Mar 20, 2015 5:32 AM
#32
Is this like being hipster is actually anti-hipster |
Mar 20, 2015 5:39 AM
#33
sourteeth said: Shitposta said: You can always ignore them. Never take the anime community seriously. I don't like the hate threads either, but a keyboard warrior style rant? Here's where you'll be laughed at, dude. And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that. Admit it, it's overhyped, you can't control what's hyped and what's not. Tens of thousands of people can, though. nah keyboard warrior would be like " you tards are wrong, fight me for it!" Even though I'm not the original poster of this post, it seems that you completely missed the whole point that, that guy tried to make. |
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Mar 20, 2015 5:46 AM
#34
Mar 20, 2015 5:47 AM
#35
F0XFIRE said: Aw boo hoo, go cry me a river like the characters in your shitty melodramatic Chinese Cartoon. |
Mar 20, 2015 5:53 AM
#37
I share the same feelings with the op I have no complaints when people are actually critical on anime they don't like as long as they don't use sh*t words or trying to group people who like it as people who have bad tastes even if they have strong points and reasons to dislike the anime. and people who don't like this kind of drama usually trying to make themselves more valid by calling it melodrama. It's just a word play to make what they're saying have a more powerful impact on people who disagree with them But really, don't make a thread just for ranting. It's pretty useless. The more you react, the happier they are Rayzer said: Shitposta said: Rayzer said: Shitposta said: People liking and disliking things come from the individual's perspective, even in collective cultures. No one is forcing anyone to like Shigatsu but ultimately yourself. Now that's the truth. And as someone who lives in the Western World... So you are saying cultural differences doesn't have anything to do with someone's perspective? I'm telling you there are many difference on a how Western Culture to how attractive a Man/Woman/Place/Thing are compared to Eastern Culture. My second point still stands that only an individual decides what he or she likes and dislikes. No anime fans are in tribes except the ones who claim they are. In fact, I'm giving you the Eastern philosophy of preference in entertainment, you make up your own rationale, not anyone else. Eastern take on entertainment is also an irrelevant concept, it's almost entirely individual to have preferences in entertainment except those who claim they're being influenced by others/are in a tribe that expects them to think so. Aforementioned concepts East vs West takes on entertainment media are ludicrous and nonsense anyways. Man why are you always ignoring the fact about Cultural Difference. According to your profile you are from Seattle and makes you a guy from the West. Go find a guy/people who was from the Eastern Culture (Asian) and ask anything about how they view the world. If ever you still ignore about Culture just go and read what was it. Yup, I can agree to this. Cultural differences definitely has an impact on people preferences It's not completely black and white though |
TriZenMar 20, 2015 5:57 AM
Mar 20, 2015 5:58 AM
#38
Shitposta said: You can always ignore them. Never take the anime community seriously. I don't like the hate threads either, but a keyboard warrior style rant? Here's where you'll be laughed at, dude. And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that. Admit it, it's overhyped, you can't control what's hyped and what's not. Tens of thousands of people can, though. Okay, lets get an official definition of overhyped, so we're on the same page. "make exaggerated claims about (a product, idea, or event); publicize or promote excessively" And what's your point? Shitposta said: And Shigatsu is overhyped, the reception we've been getting from literally all of anime discussion today has been Shigatsu this and Shigatsu that What you mean to say is it's popular. Your comment right there, is a perfect example of the issue OP is describing. The point the OP is trying to make is, EVERY popular anime according to some is 'overhyped' the term overhyped is merely an opinion, it's subjective. What's the difference between a popular anime which isn't overhyped, and a popular anime which is? Your opinion of it, that's what. Lets get a few examples out of your list Death Note Toradora Saki All of which you've given 10/10. Now it happens I've given both Deathnote and Toradora an 8/10 and Saki a 7/10, and I consider all three to be overhyped. What's your opinion of them, seeing as though you gave them such high scores? You're saying that just because an anime is talked about a lot, means it's overhyped, and then you're trying to push this same, subjective opinion on everyone else in this thread. Do i need to explain how stupid that is? It just doesn't make any sense. Who determines how much is too much for a start? It's completely subjective. Just because you don't like something which happens to be popular, does not mean it's overhyped, not to everyone at least. People have different tastes, opinions differ. But that doesn't make you're opinion any better than the rest of us. Stop acting so arrogant and snobby. |
RydakoMar 20, 2015 6:21 AM
Mar 20, 2015 6:10 AM
#39
Too lazy to read the whole post, but what's with this sudden culture talk? |
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Mar 20, 2015 6:12 AM
#40
FloatingList said: but what's with this sudden culture talk? According to Rayzer: The west will hate shigatsu, while the east will like it. whatever that means. |
Mar 20, 2015 6:15 AM
#41
Okashi_sama said: FloatingList said: but what's with this sudden culture talk? According to Rayzer: The west will hate shigatsu, while the east will like it. whatever that means. Which of course is a sweeping generalization. With his logic, the average rating wouldn't be 8.8~ |
Mar 20, 2015 8:11 AM
#42
I don't know. If people hate the show, they're free to do so. People can say whatever they want about a show. I don't have a problem with it. If everyone on MAL agreed with each other all the time. It'd be a bit boring, don't you think? That being said, though. The thing that rubs me the wrong way, however, is when people start insulting the audience of the show. What is the point of it? Now, I don't dislike the show. I enjoy it. There's just a few aspects of it I find it to be annoying. Kaori's mood swings irritate me. And way too much drama is brought in at times when there really shouldn't be any. But I don't dislike the show though. |
Mar 20, 2015 8:13 AM
#44
sourteeth said: Why is there so many of you who claim that Shigatsu is "the worst" drama or melodrama as you keep on insisting. You guys keep on posting that some anime are crappy even though YOU yourselves admit that you didn't watch it. You think the classics are so perfect and that NO OTHER ANIME WILL EVER BEAT IT. Everytime an anime gets a high rank, you flame on its forums that it is overhyped. Please stop the hate, new animes do not automatically make them bad, high ranked anime's do not automatically mean they're overhyped. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WATCH ANIME, NOT BECAUSE YOU THINK A CLASSIC IS PERFECT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD SEE IT AS PERFECT TOO AND THAT ALL OTHER ANIME IS OF INFERIOR QUALITY. Seriously, you people are the ones making the MAL community toxic, your preferences are not like ours, our preferences are not like yours. Thinking that yours is better and ours is worse is like arguing which religion is true. It is stupid and unproductive Butthurt? |
Mar 20, 2015 8:16 AM
#45
One thing is disliking the show and express your opinion of why you dislike it and other is constantly creating hate posts, but there's a lot of people butthurt of the sudden high rank of Shigatsu and well...It's MAL you'll get used to it. |
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Mar 20, 2015 8:22 AM
#46
Feaor said: MFW Shigatsu is actually a mainstream anime :| This thread is too mainstream. I must go back to my cave. |
Mar 20, 2015 8:23 AM
#47
Okashi_sama said: FloatingList said: but what's with this sudden culture talk? According to Rayzer: The west will hate shigatsu, while the east will like it. whatever that means. I mean think about it, "You friggin' white westerner will not be able to know the beauty of Shigatsu! AAAAH!!!" testamentKAISER said: sourteeth said: Why is there so many of you who claim that Shigatsu is "the worst" drama or melodrama as you keep on insisting. You guys keep on posting that some anime are crappy even though YOU yourselves admit that you didn't watch it. You think the classics are so perfect and that NO OTHER ANIME WILL EVER BEAT IT. Everytime an anime gets a high rank, you flame on its forums that it is overhyped. Please stop the hate, new animes do not automatically make them bad, high ranked anime's do not automatically mean they're overhyped. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WATCH ANIME, NOT BECAUSE YOU THINK A CLASSIC IS PERFECT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD SEE IT AS PERFECT TOO AND THAT ALL OTHER ANIME IS OF INFERIOR QUALITY. Seriously, you people are the ones making the MAL community toxic, your preferences are not like ours, our preferences are not like yours. Thinking that yours is better and ours is worse is like arguing which religion is true. It is stupid and unproductive Butthurt? Did someone says... butthurt? |
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Mar 20, 2015 8:27 AM
#48
In these forums its more common to find people hating mainstream anime than outside (it does not applies to hummingbird haha). Its because a lot of people who wants to critique anime come here to do it. The quantity of elitists in forums is bigger, proportionally. I am the complete opposite of an elitist, I really liked mainstream anime much more than "classic anime". But its for me, you can like what you want to like, I don't give a shit, but don't come to me saying that you're superior than me, that's not true. |
Mar 20, 2015 10:11 AM
#49
Trust me, I already hated this show passionately when it wasn't as popular and highly rated as it is now. It's been bad from the start. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 20, 2015 10:12 AM
#50
sourteeth said: Why is there so many of you who claim that Shigatsu is "the worst" drama or melodrama as you keep on insisting. You guys keep on posting that some anime are crappy even though YOU yourselves admit that you didn't watch it. You think the classics are so perfect and that NO OTHER ANIME WILL EVER BEAT IT. Everytime an anime gets a high rank, you flame on its forums that it is overhyped. Please stop the hate, new animes do not automatically make them bad, high ranked anime's do not automatically mean they're overhyped. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WATCH ANIME, NOT BECAUSE YOU THINK A CLASSIC IS PERFECT, DOESN'T MEAN THAT OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD SEE IT AS PERFECT TOO AND THAT ALL OTHER ANIME IS OF INFERIOR QUALITY. Seriously, you people are the ones making the MAL community toxic, your preferences are not like ours, our preferences are not like yours. Thinking that yours is better and ours is worse is like arguing which religion is true. It is stupid and unproductive Latr night anime is not mainsteam so hating it is fone |
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