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Aug 5, 2014 10:55 AM
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Yes or no...so if someone is 50 years old, does that necessarily mean they are more mature and intelligent than someone who's younger (let's say a 20 year old person)? I think the 30 extra years of life means that the 50 year old should be more mature and intelligent than someone who's only 20 years old.
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Aug 5, 2014 10:56 AM
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the only answer to this question is no. (question from title answered)

confusing thread. In your title, you say "necessarily", in your post you say "should be".
what do you want us to answer?
Aug 5, 2014 11:00 AM
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Do maturity and intelligence actually come hand-in-hand? I wonder what the academic definitions are for the terms. They obviously aren't clear-cut things that are so easily measured as height or strength.
Aug 5, 2014 11:02 AM
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It depends on each person, but generally speaking I would say yes. The human brain doesn't fully develop until the age of 25. If we're comparing a 50 year old to a 20 year old, the 50 year old should be smarter more times than not.
Aug 5, 2014 11:02 AM
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Ckan said:
Do maturity and intelligence actually come hand-in-hand?
they dont. One doesnt necessarily imply the other.
Aug 5, 2014 11:03 AM
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No.
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Aug 5, 2014 11:04 AM
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Aug 5, 2014 11:06 AM
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Defiantly not Ive seen old timers acting really stupid or really aggressive like some 20 year old yobs (is that the right term?) and Ive seen younger people act with maturity beyond their years.
Aug 5, 2014 11:08 AM
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Shadow55 said:
It depends on each person, but generally speaking I would say yes. The human brain doesn't fully develop until the age of 25. If we're comparing a 50 year old to a 20 year old, the 50 year old should be smarter more times than not.

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?
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Aug 5, 2014 11:15 AM

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DesuMaiden said:
Shadow55 said:
It depends on each person, but generally speaking I would say yes. The human brain doesn't fully develop until the age of 25. If we're comparing a 50 year old to a 20 year old, the 50 year old should be smarter more times than not.

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110922134617.htm

Since you're a psychology student, the paper might interest you as well. It's free on JNeurosci website:

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/30/10937.full.pdf+html
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Aug 5, 2014 11:15 AM

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Not necessarily, but usually.
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DesuMaiden said:
Shadow55 said:
It depends on each person, but generally speaking I would say yes. The human brain doesn't fully develop until the age of 25. If we're comparing a 50 year old to a 20 year old, the 50 year old should be smarter more times than not.

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?
I don't remember the source for that but it's true, just search a couple of minutes and you'll probably find the source.
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Aug 5, 2014 11:18 AM

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It depends, some people can just be really stupid regardless




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cabacc2 said:
Ckan said:
Do maturity and intelligence actually come hand-in-hand?
they dont. One doesnt necessarily imply the other.
Ah, but is there perhaps some degree of causation involved?
Aug 5, 2014 11:22 AM

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No, age is just a number. Though with age comes experience which affects maturity and intelligence.
Aug 5, 2014 11:26 AM

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Nah, just because they're older doesn't mean they're more mature or intelligent, but they are wiser due to having more experience.
Aug 5, 2014 11:27 AM

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Astros477 said:
No, age is just a number. Though with age comes experience which affects maturity and intelligence.
I'd think that biology would have some fair relevance to this issue, so age isn't only a number but also indicative of a particular condition of the body and perhaps even state of mind.
Aug 5, 2014 11:31 AM

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Tachycardic said:
DesuMaiden said:

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110922134617.htm

Since you're a psychology student, the paper might interest you as well. It's free on JNeurosci website:

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/30/10937.full.pdf+html

Since I'm 24 1/2, that means my brain hasn't fully developed yet, right?
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Aug 5, 2014 11:32 AM

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DesuMaiden said:
Tachycardic said:


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110922134617.htm

Since you're a psychology student, the paper might interest you as well. It's free on JNeurosci website:

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/30/10937.full.pdf+html

Since I'm 24 1/2, that means my brain hasn't fully developed yet, right?
Yes.
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Aug 5, 2014 11:37 AM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
Defiantly
Aug 5, 2014 11:38 AM

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Kibura_Iburasa said:
Defiantly
Aug 5, 2014 11:39 AM

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Ckan said:
Astros477 said:
No, age is just a number. Though with age comes experience which affects maturity and intelligence.
I'd think that biology would have some fair relevance to this issue, so age isn't only a number but also indicative of a particular condition of the body and perhaps even state of mind.


True, I should have used mainly instead.
Aug 5, 2014 11:39 AM

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Not always, just look at many of the leaders in the world, they are old, out of touch, selfish, greedy, and in some cases stupid tyrants.


Aug 5, 2014 11:42 AM

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DesuMaiden said:
Shadow55 said:
It depends on each person, but generally speaking I would say yes. The human brain doesn't fully develop until the age of 25. If we're comparing a 50 year old to a 20 year old, the 50 year old should be smarter more times than not.

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141164708

From the article:
"Under most laws, young people are recognized as adults at age 18. But emerging science about brain development suggests that most people don't reach full maturity until the age 25."

Here's another one: http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm
Aug 5, 2014 11:48 AM

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No. In many ways my past self 10 years ago was much superior to what I am now. But there are things that come with age too. It's just not something that increases in some linear fashion. Also maturity shouldn't ever be brought up with something like intelligence. That's just not what it is at all. No one will give a shit about your intelligence even though early life is designed to revolve around grades and stuff.
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Rothion said:
DesuMaiden said:

Since I'm 24 1/2, that means my brain hasn't fully developed yet, right?
Yes.

So in another 1/2 year, my brain would have magically matured, is that what you are saying?
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Aug 5, 2014 11:57 AM

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DesuMaiden said:
Rothion said:
Yes.

So in another 1/2 year, my brain would have magically matured, is that what you are saying?
Yes.
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Aug 5, 2014 11:57 AM

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No, not at all

Maybe one could hypothesize that the increased time of intelligent existence should lead to a greater development of intelligence (as I assume you to mean knowledge, actual intelligence is largely static after a point) and "maturity", but we know this to be untrue
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Aug 5, 2014 11:59 AM
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Tachycardic said:
DesuMaiden said:

Where's your proof that the human brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old?


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110922134617.htm

Since you're a psychology student, the paper might interest you as well. It's free on JNeurosci website:

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/30/10937.full.pdf+html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278584699000172

thats the relevant research, I suppose
Its behind a paywall though.
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cabacc2 said:
Tachycardic said:


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110922134617.htm

Since you're a psychology student, the paper might interest you as well. It's free on JNeurosci website:

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/30/10937.full.pdf+html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278584699000172

thats the relevant research, I suppose
Its behind a paywall though.

What do you mean by "it's behind a paywall"?
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Ckan said:
cabacc2 said:
they dont. One doesnt necessarily imply the other.
Ah, but is there perhaps some degree of causation involved?
Well, firstly, both terms are pretty ambiguous. Especially the term "intelligence" comes with many definitions. If you take a look at the most commonly used definitions of "intelligence", our problem becomes even worse, since there are many "parts" that make up overall intelligence.
I am talking about the different segments of intelligence, aka "emotional, mathematical, logical, linguistic, musical" and so on.
Does being musically talented (aka being musically intelligent) cause maturity (or the other way round)?
Dont we have the "understands quantum physics but cant tie his shoe"-cliche?

Also, intelligence and maturity are relative. We can call a 5 year old "intelligent" in comparison to other 5 year olds. But maturity (again - compared to other 5 year olds) in such a young age doesnt primarily depend on how intelligent you are, but mostly to what you were exposed/how you were raised.

Autists are sometimes highly intelligent, would you say that they are mature?
Savants are extremely intelligent in one or rarely more segments, but lack basically everything else. Are they mature?


Usually, I'd say, that some degree of causality is given. But not necessarily. Its pretty easy to find examples where the opposite is the case (autists, savants, 5 year olds, other examples I mentioned...)

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What do you mean by "it's behind a paywall"?
you have to pay for getting access to the article.
Thus, its a "paywall". An obstacle that can only be overcome if you pay.
Aug 5, 2014 12:13 PM

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Not necessarily.

For example I would say that a boy of 18 years old is always more mature than one of 13 years old, because in that range every year counts, every year will shape yourself.

But if we're comparing someone, say 30 years old, with someone 40 years old then no, I wouldn't say that the older is necessarily the more mature in this case.

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Not necessarily. To some degree, yes.
Maturity and intelligence also don't necessarily go hand in hand.

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You confuse wisdom and intelligence. Play more RPGs.
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it depends on the person
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While the older person may have more experience in life, that doesn't necessarily mean that he has greater intelligence. On the other hand, the younger person may have read far more than the older person and studied more, obtained more knowledge, but still not know what the old man does.

It also depends on how you define intelligence, but for this case I'd say that you're comparing wisdom to intelligence and vice versa.
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Are they more intelligent? Varies.

Are they wiser? Yes.
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Aug 5, 2014 1:58 PM

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Depends on the person.

I know a guy (30 year old) who didn't even pass mandatory education. He has the capacity and he has and had the means, but he just won't.
He hasn't worked for three or four years and he lives because of his grandma's charity.
He doesn't care about any of this, he just want to play videogames all day long.

He's ten years older, but I'd definitely wouldn't consider him more mature.
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Not necessarily.

For example I would say that a boy of 18 years old is always more mature than one of 13 years old, because in that range every year counts, every year will shape yourself.

But if we're comparing someone, say 30 years old, with someone 40 years old then no, I wouldn't say that the older is necessarily the more mature in this case.

Sounds reasonable. Every year counts when you are younger, but as you get older a single year doesn't make much of a difference.
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Not necessarily, A lot of my friends are a good few years older than me and claim I act mature for my age
And I have met people who are much older than me who act about 15 and 15 year old's who act about 20

so suppose it's just a number?
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Depends on gender. Most males I know above the age of 40 are conceited, cynical and emotionally stunted. If I ever become like them I'd rather drop dead.

Intelligence has nothing to do with age, wisdom does, anyway.
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No. They may have more experience, but that does not automatically lead to maturity.
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Not really. But they are more experienced and THAT is what makes them appear more intelligent. But technically I wont say that they are. And thus it shows that experience is valued as much as intelligence, or so they say.
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It all depends on the person. Many older people I know are idiots, and one of my best friends who is younger than me is more intelligent than I could ever hope to be.
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Depends on their upbringing and experiences.
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Depends on gender. Most males I know above the age of 40 are conceited, cynical and emotionally stunted. If I ever become like them I'd rather drop dead.

Intelligence has nothing to do with age, wisdom does, anyway.

What's the difference between intelligence and wisdom. I use to think they were the same thing.
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Older=More experience

So probably the older you are the smarter you become,so yes I guess.
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not at all, in my opinion.
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Not really.

Intelligence and maturity are more a personal thing than something that can be generalised to a whole age group
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