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Sep 21, 6:57 AM
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Wow, Isla deserved better. She was just trying to protect the twins.

This episode quickly went South with the despair. The twins are pissed and they're not a pushover when angry. Is this really the season finale? Felt like it had a very ambigious and strange ending.

Edit: it's not the final episode, MAL updated the # count.
Stark700Sep 21, 8:02 AM
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Takuto was too overconfident. Even he couldn't interfere with that event. But, at least, he should have noticed something about it at first. Especially, when he already knew about Flamin's ability and the RPG mechanics beforehand. He didn't do any fking thing. He just stuck his own ass on that wooden chair inside his house and couldn't move away from it. The situation was starting to be abnormal and worse, and he couldn't contact Isla. He still didn't even try to go outside or do anything else to help them.
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Sep 21, 7:01 AM
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The ending is creepy. Just checked the Blu-ray page that there is a total of 13 episodes, not 12. No wonder the ending feels abrupt. So one more episode to go.
Sep 21, 7:14 AM
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Sep 21, 7:15 AM
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Well I don't know what the hell is going on with the system, it's all out of wrack and now the twins are very creepy
Sep 21, 7:16 AM
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wow... i rly tought Isla could be revived/summoned again, but that royal sucession skill rly makes it impossible im guessing.
rip bug queen, short lived mother. The fur sisters are op as hell rn. they deserved a bit more design tweaks.

still, i thibk this is no way of ending a season so im guessing its getting a s1 part 2 soon no?
Alex_the_reaperSep 21, 7:24 AM
Sep 21, 7:40 AM
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Things continue to go downhill. I don't think next week's episode can change my mind. Such a shame because it has interesting start.
Sep 21, 7:48 AM
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Okay what the absolute fuck bro, the tone twist in these last few episodes has been bonkers.

We all knew someone was dying from last week’s cliffhanger so that’s not too surprising, what’s crazy is 1: Isla being FULL dead, no healing, no resurrection, gone right in front of the twins who already lost their biological mother. And 2: the twins having to EAT HER HEART WTF. I can’t blame them for this mental breakdown/crash out because having to eat both your mothers is fucking insane. When will they ever be happy? Mind you they don’t know about the event blocking comms with Takuto so it feels like he abandoned them. I have a bad feeling about their meeting with Atou next week .

Speaking of Atou, one detail I really like is that she doesn’t blindly follow Takuto. She really questioned and wanted to defy him about going to see the twins.

I don’t think Isla’s “live your life as you wish” was a throwaway line. We all assumed Mynoghra would lose one hero and gain two, but I think Isla may have just inadvertently created the greatest threats to this world. Their abilities are absolutely horrifying. Seeing the demon lord’s general’s skin literally melting off is insane dude, and being able to bite off parts people out of thin air reminds me of something you’d see in Re:Zero

It feels like the banter and lighthearted episodes of the first half are a million miles away. If only the production quality was better in this show it would be perfect. Hype for next week’s finale, but I could’ve sworn we only had 12 eps here according to MAL I know I’m not tripping lol
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Sep 21, 7:52 AM
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tetrix1993 said:
The ending is creepy. Just checked the Blu-ray page that there is a total of 13 episodes, not 12. No wonder the ending feels abrupt. So one more episode to go.

Did no one think to check the official Twitter page and see if they mentioned episode 12 being the final episode?
Sep 21, 7:59 AM

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Thanks, thought so. This was way too open for a season finale. Looks like MAL updated the count.
Sep 21, 8:01 AM
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those poor twins, having to endure the exact same thing not only once, but twice. Isla did what she had to to save the girls though and hats off to her.
Glad there are 13 episodes because I thought today was the last. would have been an odd ending
Sep 21, 8:14 AM

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So, the true threat to destroyed the world is two lolis, insane with grief, despair. and power. Not much fun to be had now in that world. Isla, you screwed up giving them parts of that.
LordCrueltyVSep 21, 8:44 AM
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"But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be"
Sep 21, 8:22 AM

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Takuto must be one of the most useless dark kings in anime
Sep 21, 8:24 AM
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I don't think I can articulate how glad I am that bug is dead. It was somehow the most disgusting thing. There's something really foul about cuddling a giant insect.
Sep 21, 8:33 AM

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Flamin is dastardly for forcing Isla and the twins into a scripted event. He might have been calling out Takuto for brushing him off, but I feel called out by his last message too. I didn't think he was going to take Isla out with him!

I'm curious about who was behind the royal succession working and making Caria and Maria heroes. But at the moment I'm content with being blown away by their new horrifying abilities!
Sep 21, 8:36 AM
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I don't think I can articulate how glad I am that bug is dead. It was somehow the most disgusting thing. There's something really foul about cuddling a giant insect.
@portajohn yes, it kinda bugs me too... ;-)
Sep 21, 8:40 AM
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Wow, Isla deserved better. She was just trying to protect the twins.

This episode quickly went South with the despair. The twins are pissed and they're not a pushover when angry. Is this really the season finale? Felt like it had a very ambigious and strange ending.

Edit: it's not the final episode, MAL updated the # count.
Stark700 said:
This episode quickly went South with the despair.
really?? i think it was a great plot twist; it adds detail to the story and adds character depth. i can understand how some people might not -enjoy- that twist, sure; but from a writing standpoint, i think it's strong, and valid. besides, 'you can always just eat everything and forget [the despair]', right? ;-)
Sep 21, 8:46 AM
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To think that old school cutscene bullshit would actually play out in an isekai game world. I didn't expect such a massive bomb so close to the end of the series, I'm hyped for the finale!
Sep 21, 8:48 AM
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Things continue to go downhill. I don't think next week's episode can change my mind. Such a shame because it has interesting start.
@phantomfandom not invalidating your opinion [which i do find valid], but for those of us who enjoy series like another and re: zero and who might've been thinking minoghre was getting just a wee bit too iyashikei, this plot twist doesn't mean the show's gone downhill, but rather that it's taken an uptick. i enjoyed how the author developed this part! to me, it was exciting, and had a lot more dramatic tension than the rest of the show, which from my point of view has been pretty laid-back and predictable. i'm looking forward to the conclusion and seeing where this takes us.
Sep 21, 8:48 AM

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This episode feel weird for a season finale then I looked and there was an episode left when last week this series has 12 listed episodes

They tricked us.
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Sep 21, 8:50 AM

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Takuto was too overconfident. Even he couldn't interfere with that event. But, at least, he should have noticed something about it at first. Especially, when he already knew about Flamin's ability and the RPG mechanics beforehand. He didn't do any fking thing. He just stuck his own ass on that wooden chair inside his house and couldn't move away from it. The situation was starting to be abnormal and worse, and he couldn't contact Isla. He still didn't even try to go outside or do anything else to help them.
@AkeZZZ If I recall correctly, in the previous episode, he mentioned forgetting something important. Flamin's scene was likely it.
Sep 21, 8:51 AM
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Holy shit this was brutal.
I really thought that this was the last ep, thank God its not.
Sep 21, 9:04 AM

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I knew I will be pissed if Isla died but wtf..
This have to be a sick joke making the twins eat their mother again just make them op. I know a big won't sell as much two lolis but Isla was such a good addition and lasted for only few episodes.

And Takuto is so fucking useless he has one job give info and failed spectacularly at that.

The ending is way too edgy but can't blame them. The audacity to name the episode "Tsuki ga Kirei" and play with that..

Atleast there one more episode I for sure thought it was the last episode that will be messed up way to end.
Sep 21, 9:04 AM
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So I guess hero units can't be resummoned? I couldn't remember whether the show had mentioned that. Either way, the damage has been done to those sisters, and this average show is suddenly much more interesting.
Sep 21, 9:30 AM

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I knew from the op and ed that it might happen but it still doesn't make it easier. This ep was really dark. Isla is dead, takuto can't summon her again ? The twins being there and even have to eat her. Why two times. At least they got power up. Honestly glad not same power because one of isla power is to give birth to bugs, that would be weird if they had to do that. The twins basically evolve to their own version of hero which honestly worst because instead of summoning one basically they mixed both world power with the twins like there was error in the dialogue box, they basically a worse threat than even the heroes for the world. I like their power is connected to their trauma but still poor them. They got broken and even takuto seems to change a little after knowing what happened and still he can't contact the sisters yet. Hope Atou can help them. But still good for the sisters to manage to beat two of the enemies already. Can't wait for next
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Sep 21, 9:31 AM

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Now it's getting interesting.
The question is will it get a 2nd season by far?

Sep 21, 9:37 AM
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So, the true threat to destroyed the world is two lolis, insane with grief, despair. and power. Not much fun to be had now in that world. Isla, you screwed up giving them parts of that.
@LordCrueltyV I don't think she had a choice. It was a scripted event. In the flashbacks Takuto had, it was shown the person who sacrificed themselves to save the "hero" passed on their power to the hero. That means it was part of the scripted event for her to do so, but even the system couldn't handle it, because not only did Isla's power give them hero status (evil) via her royal succession skill, in an RPG, hero status means something else, and I feel both "hero" status intertwined here to make something incredibly horrible.

Edit: I feel I can better explain it as Evil Hero Unit gains good hero RPG plot armor capabilities.
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That was significantly more eventful and brutal than I was expecting 😬 with the sad death of Isla, to then multiple characters being melted.

I do like the vibe of the twins where one is sinister levels of happy-go-lucky, and the other is deadpan (even if it is a bit clichéd).

I'm guessing/hoping that the twins will "complete" the RPG and defeat the Demon King, now that they've followed the scripted event and acted as the hero inheriting more power. Was also interesting that the RPG's flame general even wanted the script to end, and was tormented by it.
Sep 21, 9:41 AM

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isla's power was split to the two and theyre near indestructible, why didnt isla use such powers?
though i guess it was a forced event, but that only makes me question takuto not even mentioning it to isla.

i usually like my characters whove snapped but i felt this was a bit meh and "too on the nose" or whatever term/saying you want to use.
isla having the two eat her heart(?) even though she likely knew their backstory.

next episode is the last one and we've still barely resolved anything... there was that one country with the priest knights and there was that crazy girl up north who we saw like twice, but the show made her seem like she'd be important at some point.... and i doubt thisll get a second season
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Sep 21, 10:01 AM

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Meh, isla dying wasn't... very fulfilling at all.

This anime had potential but ehh.
Sep 21, 10:15 AM
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13 episode
Sep 21, 10:24 AM
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Well, the ED always had the twins looking creepy. Now I know why. Not only do they have NEW power, but their minds are broken all over again. Rampage time!
Sep 21, 10:28 AM

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Well this just establishes the undeniable fact that Takuto is an idiot.

I'm also upset that this is NOT the final episode and I can put this series to rest, because I already decided a bit ago that even IF this gets another season I ain't watching it. Not just cuz Takuto is an idiot but the fact that this "world" is so demented that it goes and brings in "genres" of things.....I mean, that might be a translation thing but either way the "system" or "world" or whatever is totally acting like "anything goes"

Just like I suspected, they brought in the whole "un-skippable cutscene" mechanic. I mean....if somehow Takuto --being a "player"-- was able to step in an circumvent it that might've saved it but the way it played out just leaves a bitter taste....I mean, what's gonna be next? something where you're forced to only go to a certain area when you don't wanna just cuz the system/game restricts movement? I dunno.... I don't really want to stick around watching them become masochists from this "system"

EDIT: I mean, I'll revisit my opinion of this atrocity if the actual finale turns out epic but right now my opinion of this is at an all time low.
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Sep 21, 10:41 AM
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they k*lled my favorite character isla and those 2 girls have become terrifying 😭
Sep 21, 10:48 AM
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Well, that escalated rapidly.
Sep 21, 10:50 AM
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This got even darker than I expected 😮
Sep 21, 10:53 AM

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When you try do something and make it so much worst. There powers are terrifying.
Sep 21, 10:56 AM
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Rurihime said:
Takuto must be one of the most useless dark kings in anime

Fr that guy has valuable info about Flamin but chose sit and play as voyeur instead of a “Player” king.
Sep 21, 11:02 AM
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Isn’t it that Ira Takuto is supposedly the best player ever??? Like I dont mind having bug get bugged but this man adds nothing to his kingdom but voyeurism. Like my guy spend most of the anime watching people from afar.
Sep 21, 11:12 AM
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The animation was sub-par.
Sep 21, 11:14 AM

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So I guess hero units can't be resummoned? I couldn't remember whether the show had mentioned that. Either way, the damage has been done to those sisters, and this average show is suddenly much more interesting.
@heychrisj Not sure but it might not matter anyway as the hero died under a different games system.
Sep 21, 11:16 AM

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Isn’t it that Ira Takuto is supposedly the best player ever??? Like I dont mind having bug get bugged but this man adds nothing to his kingdom but voyeurism. Like my guy spend most of the anime watching people from afar.
@Helvetica_Chief But it is not the same game he was playing that why he being very careful.
Sep 21, 11:18 AM

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Well, the ED always had the twins looking creepy. Now I know why. Not only do they have NEW power, but their minds are broken all over again. Rampage time!
@Sheol01 Thats why Atou has to join they Tatuko is worried and of course upset.
Sep 21, 11:29 AM
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i bet episode 13 is only a recap
Sep 21, 11:32 AM
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I feel so horrible for the twins... to go through this AGAIN...I hope they're not too far gone after this... this episode was good but really sad...I hate that Isla died
Sep 21, 11:38 AM
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i bet episode 13 is only a recap
@godzilla9637 no, There are just 1-2 chapters(22-24 in manga) left before the arc ends. They will be in episode 13.
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By far the best episode. This was nuts. The voice acting in the traumatic scenes was TOP tier too. Really felt the emotion. “Witches of Regret” is also hard AF.
Sep 21, 12:37 PM
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ok just watched ep 12 and holy shit that is the definition of Master piece
Sep 21, 1:15 PM
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man why did isla had to die after making so good connections.
Sep 21, 1:21 PM
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Brutal. Beautiful. Beautifully brutal.
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