| Well Zero is made with the knowledge that one has already experienced Stay/Night. So it doesn't care if it has to spoil things in the main story. What were supposed to be plot twists in FSN were just story elements or Easter eggs in Zero. That's the main reason. It's like watching Star Wars prequels before OG. However, Ufotable made a gamble by making Zero a introduction of the world to anime-onlies. At the same time, they also felt that VN readers wouldn't mind the "spoilers". It's a weird mashup which leads to the most peculiar conflicts within Fate community. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| Fate visual novel has 3 routes that need to be played one after the other: Fate, UBW and Heaven's Feel. Each one kinda takes for granted you know the information from the last one, and Zero was made after all that. Going Zero first is a bumpy and more spoilery ride to the verse. |
| You failed in my book not starting with deen fate stay night, but you do you. |
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imo watching fate zero is more of a bumpy ride, then like starting with fate/stay night then the UBW then with the heaven feel movies it more goes in a chronological order so you wouldn't get confused or spoiled wayy earlier than intended compared to the novels which basically jump into ubw which is completely confusing to someone who never watch the anime but read the books instead
| @amarababie The visual novel starts with vanilla fate route 1st. Ubw 2nd hf 3rd I say do fate zero after deen 2006 then go to ubw |
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| because zero is just a lesser work than the main story consisting of the 3 routes of FSN, it reveals a lot of twists in just the first 40 min episode (this is not a two way street because zero does nothing with the things it spoils while FSN uses the things it reveals about zero's ending, kirei, gilgamesh etc to delve into its protagonist) the meat of the franchise is in the routes of stay night (which arent adapted very well) while zero is just supplementary (that isnt even canonically a direct prequel to shirou's story) like every other spinoff series that spawned after the visual novel's release like apocrypha, strange fake, kaleid liner etc ideally you would have watched fate stay night 2006 at the start if it were adapted well in place of zero because it covers the first route and because its what actually leads into ubw, doing what u did effectively ruins a lot of heaven's feel if u pay enough attention and remember shit like what happens to sakura. from a blind reader's pov sakura in the first two routes is just the shy underclassman that has no idea about magecraft and the twist that shes actually a victim of lifelong sexual abuse meant to turn her into a magus is saved until the middle of heaven's feel also generally fate zero fans just have a reputation of being smug about being wrong & uninformed and not caring about the story and characters from a wider perspective which results in them getting clowned on for being secondaries by people who actually read through and appreciated the main work which is overall just far greater in scope and development in just its first third than the entirety of the zero ln |
Please don't worry about those clowns and I say you didn't do anything wrong at all so.... Also yes I agree with you that Fate Zero the best Fate ever :) |
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| ignore them, from what i've seen it's mostly just the corny elitists on reddit who act like that. i also went zero > ubw > hf order and upon rewatch i did realize that ubw does a better job of explaining how the holy grail war works for first-time viewers but i still think it's valid to start with zero. it would only be wild if you start with something like strange fake lmao. |
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| fault of type moon then ๐ |
| honestly dont listen to what anyone says, watching zero first is best unless youre reading the source material because its the best one in anime form You can just watch zero and call it a day Spoilers aren't even that important |
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rohan121 said:
You failed in my book not starting with deen fate stay night, but you do you.
You failed in my book not starting with deen fate stay night, but you do you.
are you being fr or is this bait
| @Pillsbury_Uchiha Skipping deens fate stay night 2006 is skipping the 1st route. It is a mistake in my view. Fate has 3 routes and Zero is seperate. My reccomended watch order is Fate 2006 Zero Ubw HF I also read the VN, but that is for those interested. |
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| Fate series order is not even complicated, compared to Monogatari series smh Zero is out of box, it has to be watched ONLY after finishing the main Trilogy. Watching Zero is optional btw. but, the order of FSN Trilogy is must to get into the series. The one and only Order is: FSN 2006 -> it can be skipped but don't FSN UBW -> not the Deen ver FSN HF *F/Z -> Zero is optional, you can watch it if, you wanna get to know what happened before FSN timeline, but DO NOT WATCH IT BEFORE THE MAIN TRILOGY. Order of watching Fate Series (or) Typemoon Franchise, doesn't matters from here onwards. you can watch any series of Typemoon works. |
| It's like watching the Yuta movie from JJK before S1. You could say it's chronologically correct, but you're gonna miss the experience of seeing familiar characters again. Take Nanami's black flash record for example. If you watched JJK 0 first, it's just a random scene. Same goes for this. |
| DEEN > UBW > HF > Zero. Anything else is a lie. |
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Blomgus said: Watching zero first literally ruins the rest of the series, why would you want everything to be spoiled before you watch the main part of fate, genuinely how are people so dumb to not understand that prequels aren’t meant to be watched first Nah, the agenda must be followed. Watch Zero and then nothing else, because mid show, mid protagonist.  |
Laplace_kunOct 12, 4:09 PM
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Ghost_Davo said: thanks for all the replies so far, but tbh I still don't quite see why watching Zero first is supposed to destroy the experience of UBW and HF. If I would want to recommend Fate to a friend, I'd probably still tell him to watch Zero first, cause it worked for me ๐คทโ๏ธ It doesn't matter. You might not get the best possible experience, but that is neither an universal nor a necessary one. The anime of Fate series is kinda strange: Zero: Nearly perfect just as an adaptation, but most complaints from VN readers would be repelled if they read the Zero LN and be less exposed to toxic F/Z stans Fate route: Deen did no justice. Deen anime basically doesn't exist in recommendations. Ufotable won't adapt this route. UBW route: Ufotable did good with this one, except that they presented Shirou extremely superficially as a character. HF route: They really adapted the longest VN in the shortest runtime, leading to obvious issues. Not to mention the fact that major twists and payoffs are already spoiled by the Zero adaptation which predates it by years. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| I hated UBW season 2 so I really wish I started with Fate Zero -> Heavens Feel. Heavens Feel is peak. |
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