Honest answer, do you think Berserk is overrated?

Do you think berserk is overrated?

Yes

Aug 30, 6:03 AM

#51

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TyYatos said:

CheliosX said:
It's overrated for sure but it's so totally 100% worth it and we'll deserved.

if its deserving of it then wouldnt that make it not overrated and instead just fairly rated..??

You have a fair point.

Aug 30, 6:16 AM

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When I read and watched a bit of Berserk, I did not understand what it was I was supposed to like about it.

その目だれの目？

Aug 30, 7:53 AM

#53

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Berserk is violent and touches on VERY harsh realities, but if you get past the darkness of the series, there's so many beautiful themes and a greater message. When trials and tribulations come into your life, do you give in and give up or fight for it? That's not an easy answer, but I think Guts, Griffith, and the Apostles are the perfect representation of that. More importantly, the darkest moments in Berserk that happen to these characters are to contrast the message of hope for recovery and being a better person.

Rape is explicitly in this manga, but it's more so the journey of how one recovers from that and other traumas and the people they surround themselves with. People talk about Casca, but Guts was raped as well. His growth and struggle are THE most human experiences I've ever witnessed. Without the group he's found, he probably would've lost himself to vengeance and legitimately became another Griffith willing to do whatever it took to get revenge.

I think it deserves the praise it gets because it has so many mature themes that, as a young adult, are SO important and have shaped so much of how I view things. Guts and Griffith are my favorite protagonists and antagonists period because they are VERY complex individuals

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Aug 30, 9:25 AM

#54

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Overrated kinda how Fist of the North Star is. If someone comes into the series now they'll probably enjoy it but maybe not get all the hype. most of what makes it so special was being one of the first series to do what it does, as well as the cultral impact and influences it had on other mediums/genres.

Aug 30, 10:58 AM

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I like Conan the Barbarian much better

Aug 30, 1:08 PM

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SimplyBrazen said:

DayRivia said:

It's manga, and that's not true. Maybe it's the only one with medieval/euro influence but there are plenty that will go down as classics.
It's also hard to judge, if we took aways all visuals would it still hold up as an all timer? That's a major key to the literary aspect of manga greatness.

I'm comparing it to literary works as a whole, not with other anime and manga. There's simply no other story in the medium that can offer what Berserk has offered for the dark fantasy genre. There's a reason why every dark fantasy storytelling work after it has taken many inspirations from it and it's the only series to have had an impact on the genre outside of its own medium.

YES!! I agree with you!

Aug 30, 2:57 PM

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It’s absolutely overrated. The only arc worth mentioning is Golden age and anything past that has questionable representation of female characters and lots of gratuitous rape of women who happen to all look like Barbies.

@tabbycatcircus

Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after.

Aug 30, 3:01 PM

#58

tabbycatcircus

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus

Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after.

Guts gets friends… ok? Nothing justifies the women always being the weird sexual ones, Casca getting sidlelined in the Guts Griffith conflict (which is another homoerotic rivalry how groundbreaking), and gratuitous rape of women. Berserk absolutely does not deserve to be jerked off this much. Moreover Guts is never going to defeat Griffith as he gets power up after power up. I respect a series more when it actually manages to get finished and have a good story.

Aug 30, 3:15 PM

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus

Oh, wow. Outdated based "only Golden age" comment and complete lack of any understanding, intelligence or even relevance of material after.

@tabbycatcircus Then just say that. Women being overly sexualized and too much rape. If that's the issue for you, fine. But, no comment on actual storytelling? Psychology, philosophy that are, funny enough, introduced in the very next arc!

Aug 30, 3:21 PM

#60

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Oh, to answer the question. No, I do not think Berserk is overrated. I do think that Golden age is overrated which makes some people think that Berserk itself is overrated.

Aug 30, 3:28 PM

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus Then just say that. Women being overly sexualized and too much rape. If that's the issue for you, fine. But, no comment on actual storytelling? Psychology, philosophy that are, funny enough, introduced in the very next arc!

Ok sure.

Puck is irrelevant for no reason

The philosophies go nowhere

The fact that Casca and Guts are using each other as replacements for Griffith is never addressed (this is treated as “true love”)

And again. Griffith gets power up after power up and this will never end. The story can’t resolve itself. It’s not a good one after Golden Age.

Aug 30, 4:03 PM

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@tabbycatcircus

That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story?

Aug 30, 4:04 PM

#63

tabbycatcircus

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus

That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story?

Not if the overall story doesn’t make sense either

Aug 30, 4:09 PM

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@tabbycatcircus

That's pretty vague and incorrect. You do realize that by your own logic, that would make Golden Age completely irrelevant to the overall story?

Not if the overall story doesn’t make sense either

@tabbycatcircus

So, what is overall story then?

Aug 30, 4:10 PM

#65

tabbycatcircus

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus

So, what is overall story then?

Miura had 20 years to figure that one out yet keeps making Griffith OP and increasing his list of atrocities. There’s hardly any story.

Aug 30, 4:17 PM

#66

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Even if a lot of people in here said: "Yeah, it's not all that good"

What does it actually matter?
It's beloved by so many^^

Aug 30, 4:39 PM

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Saphiran said:
@tabbycatcircus

So, what is overall story then?

Miura had 20 years to figure that one out yet keeps making Griffith OP and increasing his list of atrocities. There’s hardly any story.

@tabbycatcircus

Miura did that in the very first arc though.

Aug 30, 5:55 PM

#68

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I’d say it’s perfectly rated. I would probably say overrated if people talked about it on the same level as Naruto, One Piece and Bleach. Since it’s not as talked about, I think it’s perfectly rated. One of the best stories ever written, amazing art, great protagonist.

Okami Yurei

Aug 30, 5:58 PM

#69

justmaya

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I think it's appropriately rated.

Aug 30, 8:35 PM

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ProGoddess

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I think the series is fine. If you like the dark theme, you will enjoy better.

Aug 31, 4:44 AM

#71

HitMaster8

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It's pretty good but it is overrated, and too long for what it wants to accomplish and for what it's about, I feel like it lost its focus midway through, it should've wrapped things up long ago.

Aug 31, 7:20 AM

#72

Biochemistry

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Personally, yes. I liked Berserk when I first read it as a teenager but looking back at it now, I am not sure why I liked it.

Aug 31, 10:55 AM

#73

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Everything after the golden age arc, yes. All incredibly drawn, but I feel like the story and characters went off the rails. Golden Age though? Still one of the best manga I’ve ever read, if not the best so far.

Aug 31, 11:21 AM

#74

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No I don't. Even if it's not my personal favorite manga, I can't imagine any other sitting at the #1 spot with the amount of influence and quality that Berserk has

Aug 31, 11:44 AM

#75

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Haven't read it yet, but as someone from the outside first of all you can't deny that it influenced a lot of media even outside of animanga, but also I feel like to me as an outsider it seems overrated but it's not it's own fault, but due to the fact it's one of the only manga that people take seriously in terms of literary value, so it's not so much as it being overrated but more like the vast majority of the medium isn't taken seriously so when something is it's easy to feel it's overrated

Aug 31, 3:35 PM

#76

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All because of that fckin see god arc

Sep 1, 8:18 AM

#77

ForeverVirgin

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Nah defo perfectly rated and lives upto the ratings

Sep 1, 9:40 AM

#78

NessTheR2D2

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It’s overrated, but you know? It’s fine. It’s a really solid series that captivated generations of fans. It’s not perfect, but I’m fine with it being a north to the manga industry. A model to follow and inspire other series as it already did.
I want to make something clear: it’s not because I think that berserk isn’t the best series in the world does not mean I despise it. “Overrated” isn’t the same as “not good”.
Now for the ones who truly love the series, I invite you all to give a new critical and salty redeading of Berserk. If you do, I’m sure you’ll find out lots of interesting messages and symbolisms, but also some defects or concepts not well executed.

Sep 1, 11:57 AM

#79

AngelaWolter

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click bait topic.

Sep 1, 12:02 PM

#80

LenRea

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Yes, it's the most overrated manga ever.

Sep 3, 4:50 PM

#81

DBMAX

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Golden age no. Everything else yes.

Sep 3, 5:37 PM

#82

Saphiran

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Golden age no. Everything else yes.

@DBMAX

Quite the opposite. If anything is overrated in Berserk, it's Golden Age.
Casual take, btw.

Sep 14, 11:19 PM

#83

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I'd say it's slightly overrated because it's bloated. I have no clue how long it's planned to be, but with current rates of chapter release most initial fans will die of old age before it ends or reaches any sensible conclusion.

Sep 15, 4:06 AM

#84

KitsuFrost

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Every praised work will be seen as overrated by someone. What can you do lol

Sep 26, 4:42 AM

#85

J3_Omega

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Obviously, but as a wise weeb once said, "no shit when you're an 11."

Oct 28, 1:25 AM

#86

Adnash

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Yes, Berserk is kinda overrated. It's not the best manga ever written and ever created. But is there any work like that? And also, don't get me wrong, it's a very good and successful manga, extremely fun to read, with beautiful art (otherwise, I wouldn't have read it for so many years, haha), and many interesting themes implemented into the plot or characters. It deserves its cult status in the world of manga, and it has been loved by many for a lot of years (which can be easily checked by seeing how well Berserk fares in terms of sales, despite being rather old, still on-going manga, and a seinen, in the market dominated by shounen series).

But thanks to some fans, mostly kidults or soulslike fans to whom Berserk is "baby's first and probably last seinen manga", in the recent years we could see a lot of wacky, obnoxious behavior and hypocrisy coming from people posing to be "huge Berserk fans". Thrashing Kentarou Miura when he was still alive, only to start treating him like a god once he died; treating Berserk as if it was flawless (nothing is flawless); being really mean towards Studio Gaga and Kouji Mori, calling their work "low-quality shitty fanfic" or stuff like that; treating the fact that Berserk didn't end with Miura's death as disgrace. When you see clowns representing such behavior and gathering like flies around feces each time someone wants to have a nice, cultural conversation about Berserk, then you can't blame bystanders or more casual fans to think of Berserk as "overrated dark fantasy for immature edgelords".

It's not the manga's fault that some of its fans are so vocal and make it, and also other fans, look bad, but like I said before: you can't blame sane and emotionally stable readers for their bad impression on people claiming to be "extreme Berserk fans for years" (several months after actually learning about the series, duh) and treating Berserk as if it had absolutely the best art and flawless, mature story, with other manga titles (mostly seinen, but not only) being vastly inferior to Berserk in every aspect.

tl;dr It might be overrated from one reason or another, but who cares? I like it anyway, with all its positive and negative elements or moments, and I don't plan to drop it after all those years. Not because of sunk cost fallacy, but because I find it so damn good and entertaining. Rest in peace, Kentarou Miura.

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Dec 3, 2:22 PM

#87

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The golden age arc certainly is. Berserk as a whole is good, but golden age is boring and people thinking it's the best thing ever confuses the shit out of me.

Dec 6, 5:14 AM

#88

Ridzaxster

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Yes, berserk is Overrated manga. This should be ranked #2.

Dec 14, 6:32 PM

#89

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DayRivia said:

SimplyBrazen said:
Berserk's the closest thing we're ever going to get to a literary classic in the anime medium. If anything it deserves more attention.

@SimplyBrazen you should check The House in Fata Morgana, it's even closer to a literary classic than Berserk is

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